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I just found another painful bug....this one is related to charging (battery). I normally put my qtek on charge all through the night when I go to bed. For the last 4-5 days I have been unplugging the device when it showed 100% charge, put it on standby (no wifi,btooth,gsm etc.) and made sure there were no applications running. I usually leave it in the standby state for 2 hours while I finish my morning exercise.
whenever I return, I see a power loss of 20%!! I was shocked to see how I could loose 20% in 2 hours ith my device on standby mode. this time, I even made sure I pressed the power button before I closed the lid, and still...no luck :-( I still lost 19%
I guess the problem is, when the charger is connected and the battery gets completely charged, it stops charging further. I guess it reaches a fully charged state within 2 hours, and the battery starts to drain all through the night...and wm5/htc don't start charging once again when the levels go down....i'll have to do a cuple more tests until I can totally confirm that this is the bug...until then, are anyone of you guys experiencing the same problems?
Another thing I forgot to mention, once again I charge my battery from 80% to 100%, and it lasts through the entire day(12 hrs) and drops to only 40% with highhh usage (bluetooth ON throughout, gsm on with 3hrs talktime, and some light gprs usage). so it really is not a problem of my battery as I see it!
Cheers,
San
Hmmm. I hate to say, but I don't see that problem. But I do have the unlocked JasJar Universal from HTC, not the qtek. If this happens with other qtecs, maybe they load a custom software that is acting up. In fact, I could leave the device on for two straight hours off a 100% charge and I don't think I'd lose 20% unless the phone was on too.
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Hmmm. I hate to say, but I don't see that problem. But I do have the unlocked JasJar Universal from HTC, not the qtek. If this happens with other qtecs, maybe they load a custom software that is acting up. In fact, I could leave the device on for two straight hours off a 100% charge and I don't think I'd lose 20% unless the phone was on too.
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have you tried charging your device for well over two hours before unplugging? (around 8-9 hours of charging for instance?)
I don't really think it has anything to do with the qtek rom/device. the qtek rom has the least ammt of customisations on it...
I still suspect that the charging process halts and it starts to drain the battery....but the os doesn't reinitiate the charging process once again....hmm
I'll have to wait till tomm before I can do another round of checking....tomm, I want to charge it....and before I unplug, I'd remove the battery and put it back and see what it indicates...I suspect that the power would have already dropped to ~80% by then...that's the only explanation I can think of at the moment....
San
Hi Dreamtheater!!!
I exactly follow you as far as charging is concerned and I hv a Jasjar....just to inform you...I started charging yesterday at 11.30 PM and just got up to see the charge..it is 100%...no power loss...
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Hi Dreamtheater!!!
I exactly follow you as far as charging is concerned and I hv a Jasjar....just to inform you...I started charging yesterday at 11.30 PM and just got up to see the charge..it is 100%...no power loss...
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it shows 100% for me too...but in just 2 hrs, it drops to 80% which is weird! from then on, it drains normally...
I still need some time to nail the exact cause for the problem...hmm!
S
Hey dreamtheater, I charge my Exec overnite everynite just like you. Usually at least 7 to 8 hrs everynite, but I have yet to experience what you mentioned here. My Exec always start fresh from 100% and by the time I get home at nite, it will drop to about 70% so no, I'm not getting the batt drain issue like you do..
I did not experience any such behaviour with my Qtek. It charged fine over night and had 100% battery when unpluged.
Are you sure your's does not wake up for some reason after you suspend it?
Dreamtheatre, I charged my XDA Exec overnight (7 hrs) and after 2 hrs with GSM/UMTS radio on the unit lost 5% battery charge.
@DT,
You need to set the device to switch off after a specified time interval. This can be done by going to start>settings>battery>advanced and check the device timeout box. I usually set it to 1 minute.
Last night i was browsing on my JJ and fell asleep while doing so, IE and notes and inbox applications were still open. When i started, the battery level was 93%, i browsed for about 10 minutes over Wifi before i fell asleep. The device shut itself off and when i woke up the battery level was 82% which is prportionate to my 10 min WiFi use and probably 1 minute standby time before it shut itself off.
Try it out, i'm sure you will stop seeing the massive battery drain
Cheers.
Another thing. Contraty to what people think, keeping the universal's battery topped off improves battery life. Prevent it from dropping all the way to say 30% or so. You will notice the difference in battery life in just about a week or so
Another source of battery drainage i've found is when i'm charging my Exec from the USB connection on my PC - If I leave my Exec connected and put my PC into standby, it will literally suck the life out of the battery over the course of a few hours!
I think some of you have got me wrong...let me restate the problem...
I charge all night
Wake up with 100% charge
Pull off the charger
Leave it on standby for ~2 hrs (no apps running, gsm, wifi, all off)
Come back, and find a ~20% drop
Back to my findings now.......
Another morning, no luck :-(
It had 100% charge...I pulled off the battery, put it back in and restarted....still showed 100%, so I guess it really was fully charged after all. This time I turned off receive incoming beams as well....left it for a couple hours, and was disappointed to see 82% when I got back :-(
However, through the day I get excellent battery life....all day's use ends up consuming roughly 30-40% charge which is excellent compared to my prev xda2 which would comparitively loose all of it by eod. I guess if I park my device in flight mode it tends to start draining quickly....now that's my only available reason or cause that I can think of....
tomm I guess I won't put the device on flight mode and leave it just On instead. This is weird because its just me having this problem :-(
San
PS: I'm using the regular ac charger itself for charging...hmm
DT, I disabled PowerSave and switched off the GSM/UMTS radio on my Exec. After about 8 hours I had lost about 30% charge. So your 20% does seem high. It could just be the battery as loss of charge is not linear. Why not let it drop to say 60% and then do your test again. By the way there spare batteries seem to be available now for the Universal.
Hi all,
My Atrix won't charge more than 90%.
Do you have a solution ?
Thank you
goto the market and look for battery calibration, when it hits 90% or so or wont charge more, hit calibrate, then drain it to 0 and charge it back and see what happens, also whats the voltage levels at 90% ?
Thank you for your return,
The voltage is 4.036V at 90%.
I will try and let you know.
Same problem here. Also when charging, the indicator is not working.
follow this guide to fix all your battery issues
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1198333
The battery thing is a pain in my A$$.. this is what I did to fix it:
1) drain phone 100%
2) charge to full while phone is off
3) while phone was still charging, I pulled the battery, waited for the screen to show a question mark, then I plugged the battery back in. Then it shows the battery as 5% or 10% (YMMV)
4) let it charge again for another 2 hours
5) before turning on; I went into recovery and deleted battery stats, then rebooted
6) phone should be at 100% or close to it, if not, then wait until its at 100%, then calibrate the battery using the app.
NOW ---- after doing all this, my phone seemed fine.. then.... the problem started happening where the phone wouldnt charge to 100, then it wouldnt charge to 95, then it wouldnt charge to 90, then it wouldnt charge to 85..
of course I started freaking out like WTF -- but.. this is what I did to fix it:
I tolerated it. I just kept using my phone, charging when I needed too, etc etc etc. I never let it die completely.. i just kept charging once the phone hit 10% or so (over night mostly, and sometime thruout the day).
Eventually the percentage started creeping back up... slowly.. I noticed after every overnight-recharge, the percentage would climb up by 1. So it would goto 85..86...87.. etc. etc. until it got to 95.
Then over the weekend while I was streaming a movie on a car ride home; the phone died because I ran out of battery, I took it home --- put it on the charger without turning it on... let it charge for an hour or so, when I turned it on the phone was at 80%.
I kept charging it -- and now.. after ALL OF THAT... my phone charges to 100% . EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.
Sorry for the long post -- but this is what I went through to fix my battery. a PAIN IN THE A$$ , but I think eventually your battery will learn to fix itself.
This is from all information I found in these forums, I can't take credit for any of this.
I have this strange issue with the battery calibration.
At first i thought the battery was dying on me. It normally stay active to 35-44% and then the OS would just suddenly report the battery is dead and just turns off.
Then i just boot into TWRP recovery and leave the screen on. And it's able to stay on for another whole hour at maximum screen brightness till it actually dies.
I tried deleting the battery stats in the data folder and letting it drain to 0%. But the OS still thinks it's out of juice around 35-44%...despite the fact that it can stay on for another hour or so in TWRP recovery.
Is there anyway to adjust the capacity of the battery in the OS?
Hi,
When this happened to me (but with 20%), all I did was letting the battery drain and charge it fully while turned off. Don't know if it actually works, but it solved my issue. Give it a try .
Good luck,
~Lord
"This Story Ends Where It Began" - Octavarium (Dream Theater)
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Funny, I had just about the opposite problem. It was stuck at 35-45% while charging, or it would only go up about 1% every 20-30 minutes. Sloooowwww. Same solution seemed to fix it--let it drain to shut-down, recharge with power off to 100%. It seems to charge faster with power off, but I haven't done an a-b test to verify.
So I just started getting this after the update to 5.0 on my N10.
Beforehand I never noticed anything, although its been a few months since i have used it till a really low battery.
But I updated to 5.0. Used it for a while, the OS registered like 70% battery and then instantly 0% and it shut down. So I booted to the bootloader to see and it ran just fine for a while. I got bored and booted it back up, immediately shut down.
I plugged it in and booted it up and it was a 0% for a LONG time before it ever registered as actually charging. Then it charged normally until it got to like 25% and then instantly to 100%.
Im hoping its just a calibration thing, I did a factory reset just to be safe but it still did it. I guess the next steps if it still does it after a few cycles is to install a custom recovery and clear stats.
Same thing here
I've got almost the identical issue as the OP. Tablet shuts off without warning around 35-40% batter. When I reboot it says 0% battery and immediatley shuts down. If I boot into recovery mode though it will stay on for 2-3 hours before dying. I tried this and then charged it to full overnight with the device powered down and still today it shutdown again around 40% battery. Tried a battery calibration app before too but nothing has fixed it. This is 4.4.4 stock rooted with xposed. Been happening for about 2-3 weeks now. I'm pretty sure it's got to be software related right?? Anyone find a fix yet?
Just posting to say I'm seeing the exact same thing. It also just started happening since the update to Lollipop. It is shutting down at about 30-40%, then when I turn it back on it is at 0% and will shut down immediately unless it's plugged in. However, like the rest of you also said, in safe mode it'll stay on for a while longer without being plugged in. We really need a way to calibrate the battery somehow. This is a very frustrating problem. No warning at all!
I also have this problem.....this updates are so bugged.....
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I have the exact same issue
After a full charge it's saying I only have three hours left on the battery. Battery life is really poor. I'm not sure if the battery is worn out (I've had the tablet since it came out) or if it's from the update.
Same same.
Just had the same start yesterday. Was charged to 100% ran a high intenssity game for an hour (makes my cell phone heat up and kills the battery like mad) but it was NOT affecting the 100% charge. I thought 'thats funny' then it started to go down some then it hit about 55% then BAM. Drops to zero and shuts off.
After that it would not take a charge no matter what I did but then for no particular reason except I was lazy and didnt wanna have to boot it up again after I plugged it in, I left it plugged in and went to take a nap. Came back an hour later and it had charged to 43% after having been at zero for about 20 minutes after I left the room.
Now its stuck at 43% and wont charge any higher. I'm leaving it alone for a few hours to see if it will ever get to 100% then ill run it down to zero then charge it over night turned off to 100%.
Ive been reading this as a battery calibration problem and came across a HUGE variance on the net about what to do about 'that'.
Some say the charge to 100% drop to 0% charge to 100% will calibrate it. Some say thats old Ni-Cad tech and you shouldnt do that with the Lithium Ions. But then others say you should do it with the Nexus 10 because it DOES calibrate the battery and that the tablet software protects the battery from actually going to zero%. (Saves a few percent and shuts off).
But then also someone else said battery calibration only works via a hardware change inside the tablet and that we are actually talking about conditioning. But then someone said conditioning is the max storage and that the 40% to 0% drop is not conditioning and since the charge discharge charge is for conditioning a Ni-Cad it wont help. Around we go.
There was also mention of a samsung PHONE having a problem with a bent usb pin inside the phone. But you had to pop the battery to bend the pin and since you cant do that a on Nexus 10 that doesnt help. (Plus the pin doesnt look bent to me even though about 30 people chimed in saying it helped them. But that was all phones.)
And finally. One website says you have to root the nexus 10 and use a batter calibratino app to calibrate it as option a but option b was some crazy combination of charge to 100 discharge for an hour, charge to 100, discharge for an hour, charge to 100, discharge till your aunts pink underwear falls off or something equally strange.
I'm betting based on you guys os upgrade bug. Just too strange. My 2 year warrenty ran out last month but I hadnt turned it on in six. Maybe thats a good thing. Be stupid to send it in for repair only to find out it was software.
Have to see if after my full cycle charge-discharge-charge it works again.
Prayin for everyone's devices. This sucks.
Misery loves company...
Schwanke said:
Just had the same start yesterday. Was charged to 100% ran a high intenssity game for an hour (makes my cell phone heat up and kills the battery like mad) but it was NOT affecting the 100% charge. I thought 'thats funny' then it started to go down some then it hit about 55% then BAM. Drops to zero and shuts off.
After that it would not take a charge no matter what I did but then for no particular reason except I was lazy and didnt wanna have to boot it up again after I plugged it in, I left it plugged in and went to take a nap. Came back an hour later and it had charged to 43% after having been at zero for about 20 minutes after I left the room.
Now its stuck at 43% and wont charge any higher. I'm leaving it alone for a few hours to see if it will ever get to 100% then ill run it down to zero then charge it over night turned off to 100%.
Ive been reading this as a battery calibration problem and came across a HUGE variance on the net about what to do about 'that'.
Some say the charge to 100% drop to 0% charge to 100% will calibrate it. Some say thats old Ni-Cad tech and you shouldnt do that with the Lithium Ions. But then others say you should do it with the Nexus 10 because it DOES calibrate the battery and that the tablet software protects the battery from actually going to zero%. (Saves a few percent and shuts off).
But then also someone else said battery calibration only works via a hardware change inside the tablet and that we are actually talking about conditioning. But then someone said conditioning is the max storage and that the 40% to 0% drop is not conditioning and since the charge discharge charge is for conditioning a Ni-Cad it wont help. Around we go.
There was also mention of a samsung PHONE having a problem with a bent usb pin inside the phone. But you had to pop the battery to bend the pin and since you cant do that a on Nexus 10 that doesnt help. (Plus the pin doesnt look bent to me even though about 30 people chimed in saying it helped them. But that was all phones.)
And finally. One website says you have to root the nexus 10 and use a batter calibratino app to calibrate it as option a but option b was some crazy combination of charge to 100 discharge for an hour, charge to 100, discharge for an hour, charge to 100, discharge till your aunts pink underwear falls off or something equally strange.
I'm betting based on you guys os upgrade bug. Just too strange. My 2 year warrenty ran out last month but I hadnt turned it on in six. Maybe thats a good thing. Be stupid to send it in for repair only to find out it was software.
Have to see if after my full cycle charge-discharge-charge it works again.
Prayin for everyone's devices. This sucks.
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Suffice it to say I've been seeing this issue as of Android 4.4.4... NONE of the posted recalibration techniques seem to work and as usual, Google non-support is just as useless. As far as I can tell, once in this state it's here to stay... I've had my N10 shut down at 28%, 37%... even as high as 55%, and on re-charge (if I do it turned on) it charges to a point and then shoots straight up to 100%. I've seen the "takes forever to get above 0%" issue too... none of this has happened in any consistent fashion. I had hoped that friggin lollipop would solve this but instead they added a host of OTHER annoying bugs: as in after I restart it, the tablet goes into an optimization mode where it decides it has to re-optimize all 362 apps I have on the wretched thing. There naturally are a few others but they are beyond the mainstream of this evening's symposium....
Same exact thing is happening to me, but I'm on 4.4.
Same issue for me toosince 5.0 (now 5.1.1 BlissPop)
I'm gonna try to see if after my full cycle charge/discharge/charge it will work again...
Same issue for me too, since 5.0
Same issue for me too, since 5.0
to all of you how had had battery charging problems, please advise y you have used the "magenetic" charging cable. (It charge to a 25% higer rate)
I don't know how... I don't know why... After nearly 10 months of this behavior... I recently went through a couple of charge cycles (after it dropped to zero yet again) without letting it drop to zero.. AND NOW IT'S FINE!!!! I have no clue why... None of the stupid on-line non root solutions worked... I think that it's possible for this thing to recover after a random sequence of events which unfortunately cannot quantify because I had pretty much given up.
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I am getting the same experience as most of you. Tablet shuts off at around 45% saying there's zero battery left. I assumed it was the battery going bad.
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Well technically the battery starts going bad (yeah it's not supposed to... but nothing lasts forever) once you start running the discharge/charge cyle over and over again. To be sure my N10 is more than a few years old and while depending on use it can last a few days... it sure doesn't go quite as long as it did between charges as when it was brand-spanking-new. That said, and as said in my more recent post where I thought that the battery was borked, it now will last around two days with heavy use and about three with moderate use... and it now discharges appropriately to near zero warning me to connect the charger without just dying at 30-50 %... and the charge profile is a smooth curve from low to high with no sudden jog to 100% once the charge indication hits 60-65% like it did before. That would *seem* to indicate to me that this is far more a software issue than a battery one, and that purchasing a new battery may "fix" the problem but it won't FIX the problem! i.e. it'll only be a matter of time before it comes back. For all I know, some recent update to some google app took care of it...
After updating from CM11 to stock 5.1.1 I got the same problem. My N10 switch emmidiatly off at 70% battery. It was fine with CM11. Any news on this? Did a battery calibration, but this didn't helped.
I'm also getting this problem for the first time on the Temasek CM rom from 11/05/2015. It seems to have come up only since the 11/05 version.
Still no solution!?
I am having this issue (I think) since I received the update to Lollipop. So, basically it is a bit more than a year now. I was hoping a Marshmallow update would solve it, but: nope!
For installing Marshmallow I also did factory reset and all that stuff: it does not fix the problem...
I've owned my Note 4 since October 2014 and it's been working solidly since. Last Thursday, out of nowhere, I noticed that from a 14% charge, it suddenly dropped to 4%. I immediately scrambled for a charger and charged it back up to 100%. On Friday, I charged my battery normally again. Charging finished at 11 AM but the drain was abnormally high. My phone was warm to the touch and battery was dead in 4 hours. I was using the phone normally throughout that time, 4g on, location services/bt off, screen off for the most part. I ran OS monitor to see whether any app was locking up the CPU, but, as expected, the main CPU users were Android System and Android OS.
On Saturday, I charged the phone to full again, disconnected around 4 pm. Being that I was home, both wifi and 4g were off. Battery discharged normally, and was only down to 30% on Monday morning.
On Monday, I noticed that battery dropped from 21% straight to 11% straight to 4% in a few seconds. The drain from 4 to 3 to 2% was decent (few minutes of screen on time, on viber), then the phone shut off. I tried to charge the battery with the device powered off, but noticed that the phone simply stopped charging at 80%. I thought that was an abnormality. I tried wiping the system and app caches, but the problem persisted and drain still felt pretty fast. Tuesday night, the phone stopped charging at 91%, staying at the same level for 40 minutes before I gave up and unplugged.
My friend had purchased a fake OEM Note 4 battery and allowed me to try the drain/charge process using his battery to troubleshoot. When I first plugged his battery into my phone, the drain was high at about 1 percent per minute. When I tried to charge the battery, the charge level would not go beyond 90%. I switched on safe mode, but the battery did not charge any further either. I felt by then that something was definitely wrong with my phone. When I restarted the phone to get out of safe mode, though, it suddenly started charging again and hit 100%. With regular use, the fake battery gave me 16 hours of power, which I thought was relatively decent. Alas, when I started charging it again, it stopped charging at 77%. Battery Monitor Widget showed 0 mA flowing into the phone at the time, though the battery indicator in the status bar showed the lightning bolt.
I took out the fake battery and put in my original. It is now charging up normally, but I expect charging to stop before I hit 100%.
If anyone could provide possible explanations for what could be going on and/or other troubleshooting tips to try, I would really appreciate it. A factory reset would be my last recourse.
Thank you very much!
EDIT: My battery went all the way up to 100% this time. But it's the same one that got stuck (at 80% then at 91%) twice in the past.
I'm using two different Samsung chargers and different cords, by the way, and blew out the port with air prior to attempting to charge the fake battery that still stopped at 77%.
I had the same issue, took it to Samsung and they replaced the battery, it has been okay since that
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I had the same issue, took it to Samsung and they replaced the battery, it has been okay since that
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Really? I was ready to write off my battery and just buy a replacement, but what was weird was that even the newish fake battery wouldn't charge fully. That's what made me worried that it's my phone that's the problem.
It'd be great if this could be as simple as a battery problem.
My Moto x pure edition has picked up a little quirk. It shuts down for no apparent reason under really light use, like scrolling between screens. It always seems to happen right around 30% battery level. After it shuts down, a reboot gets to the logon screen and then it dies. I can do that a couple of times and the same thing happens. If I plug it into a charger it shows zero battery but it will boot and I can log in. The funny thing is after logging in the battery shows 30% remaining on the android battery meter and it works fine without the charger. Seems to discharge normally from this point. This has happened about 5 times in the last couple of weeks. In summary the same thing happens every time: Shuts down at about 30% battery, won't log in without the charger, shows dead battery when charger is plugged in, after logging on the battery shows 30% charge, normal battery life for the remaining 30%. I am thinking something battery related but battery life is not too bad.
Particulars:
Moto x Pure ed
xt1575
Original battery, about 2.5 years old, battery life is on the decline but still ok.
Android 7.0
Stock Android not even rooted.
Running on Verizon soon to be T-Mobile.
Any Ideas? This has been a really great phone and I am not quite ready to walk away. I would buy another tomorrow if it was available new.
Thanks any help
John
That means your battery is getting old and can't provide enough charge for some heavy operations. I would suggest you to get the battery replaced.
I hope not. My experience is the available aftermarket batteries are junk. Not worth the effort. I noticed there was a battery thread, I will take a look at it and see if there is a solid battery available.
Thanks
John
Mine recently started dying at around 35%, chalking it up to old/depleted battery....plug it in, it powers on showing 35%.....I'm going to ride it out until op6 (possibly pixel xl 3).
This has been happening to me for about a month now, except there is no approximate battery level that it occurs. Most recently, I pulled it off the charger to take a photo, and it just shut down. Held the power button down and it showed the battery at 0%. I then reconnected the power cable, and it showed 95%, so I tried to power it back on and it bootlooped. Tried again and everything was fine. Unplugged it and tried rebooting it and as soon as it was finished, it shut down. Plugged it back in and let it sit powered off for ten minutes, unplugged it and it's been working ever since. But, this will occur at any given time and has made the phone too unreliable for daily use, so I had to go back to my S4 until I can get this figured out. Such a bummer, because I've gotten really used to that big screen and not having to wear 'cheaters'...lol
Ok, seems like it is not a completely unique prob. I have a battery on order. I will see if the swap fixes it. Thanks for the help.
Did you get any solution? Mine started shutting down @ < 50% when I start video app
Use a battery voltage monitoring app like 3C battery monitor and see if the voltage floats around too much, if it does then it's dead.
Well here you go:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/OEM-NEW-MO...h=item41f0537752:g:e-MAAOSw9NhbIWGy:rk:1:pf:0
That's where I brought my battery when it was starting to die.