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some qns to help me decide if to move to LineageOS

I am currently on Stock Nougat firmware and have been thinking of switching to Los but still undecided.
Can someone tell me how do the battery lives compare between the two?
What are the main reasons that people move to Lineage? When I used phones from LG, Samsung, HTC, I moved to custom roms to escape from the bloat wares. On Essential phone, I don't see much push factors. I'm, in fact, quite happy on Stock but of course, I haven't seen the good things with using custom roms such as Lineage yet and I hope you guys can tell me more..

We are in the same boat. I haven't been getting great battery life on stock, and I've had bouts of os freezing and unresponsiveness thats made me consider rooting. But my main reason for not rooting and going custom is losing the stock camera.

LOS is a very bare bones minimal options Rom, but a very good alternative to stock. You are not gonna be wowed with all the options in LOS, as there aren't many. It's not much different than Vanilla Android really. If you want a lot of options like Dirty Unicorns Smartbar/Fling customizable Navbar, you're going to want to flash a ROM that has it like Resurrection Remix (only a Nougat version for now). I haven't flashed any of the new Oreo ROMs like AOSIP yet, so I haven't checked to see how many features they have, but Resurrection Remix is running flawless on my PH1, and it has more options than any Rom out there. The only way to find out if it's for u is to flash some ROMs and try them out. Unfortunately, on this phone, a lot of Rom flashes require u to wipe ur entire phone, so it's a bit more of a hassle. Just make sure to back up all the things u don't wanna lose.

thanks @teostar and @Airwolf79!
How's Lineage's battery life compared to Stock?
Which is more stable? I do get hangs on stock every now and then, how's Lineage?
I saw somewhere that I can get apps to become full-screen on Lineage. Is that true?

tanwg said:
thanks @teostar and @Airwolf79!
How's Lineage's battery life compared to Stock?
Which is more stable? I do get hangs on stock every now and then, how's Lineage?
I saw somewhere that I can get apps to become full-screen on Lineage. Is that true?
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In my experience, no custom ROM I've tried has had equal battery life to stock. They haven't been bad either, but they have all been smoother with a lot less screen jitter. I think they all provide full screen immersive mode, at least I know LOS and RR do.

Thank you! Now it is clearer for me. It is a trade-off between UX and battery life.

tanwg said:
thanks @teostar and @Airwolf79!
How's Lineage's battery life compared to Stock?
Which is more stable? I do get hangs on stock every now and then, how's Lineage?
I saw somewhere that I can get apps to become full-screen on Lineage. Is that true?
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i'm on los 15.1 and i have like 6-8 hour sot depending on usage, los is as stable as it should without root and pretty smoother than stock. Full screen is not implemented for now but it should, but it's in 14.1. one handed mode too. For full screen mode in 15.1 i'm using immersives settings with adb right. btw sorry for my bad english i'm french.

nicoconepala said:
i'm on los 15.1 and i have like 6-8 hour sot depending on usage, los is as stable as it should without root and pretty smoother than stock. Full screen is not implemented for now but it should, but it's in 14.1. one handed mode too. For full screen mode in 15.1 i'm using immersives settings with adb right. btw sorry for my bad english i'm french.
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Thank you! Really useful information.
What about the camera? Is one better than the other?

tanwg said:
Thank you! Really useful information.
What about the camera? Is one better than the other?
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essential stock is fine but i'm rather use scrubber gcam which is more fast and with better portrait mode ?

using lineage and stock roms (beta) i really dont notice any day to day difference in battery consumption. If you are looking to improve battery life from stock then you might want to consider using custom kernels instead; they typically have more customization around battery life through governer tweaks underclocking under volting etc.

Just to update that I finally unlocked my bootloader to try LOS this morning. It was total disaster for me.
Firstly I haven't done this for a long time. Secondly I was not familiar with devices with a/b partition. Thirdly, I depend on Google's back up to restore my apps but, for some unknown reason, play store does not restore well in LOS.
Took me 4 hours and in the end I went back to Oreo B3. Still and upgrade from my stock Nougat.

tanwg said:
Just to update that I finally unlocked my bootloader to try LOS this morning. It was total disaster for me.
Firstly I haven't done this for a long time. Secondly I was not familiar with devices with a/b partition. Thirdly, I depend on Google's back up to restore my apps but, for some unknown reason, play store does not restore well in LOS.
Took me 4 hours and in the end I went back to Oreo B3. Still and upgrade from my stock Nougat.
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Just would like to update and blame myself for the lack of preparation when I last tried to move to LOS.
I tried again last night, and it was completed smoothly with my issues at all. Now I have a rooted LOS 15.1! It IS actually quite easy. So, as i say, i am just updating to clarify .

tanwg said:
Just would like to update and blame myself for the lack of preparation when I last tried to move to LOS.
I tried again last night, and it was completed smoothly with my issues at all. Now I have a rooted LOS 15.1! It IS actually quite easy. So, as i say, i am just updating to clarify .
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I don't think I could go back to stock rom honestly, for immersive mode alone, not to mention all the other tweaks and the performance gain.

crixley said:
I don't think I could go back to stock rom honestly, for immersive mode alone, not to mention all the other tweaks and the performance gain.
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To be honest, I was reading the forums and one of your posts was part of the reason I tried again. Can't remember the posts but I remembered your name lol. Thank you!

tanwg said:
To be honest, I was reading the forums and one of your posts was part of the reason I tried again. Can't remember the posts but I remembered your name lol. Thank you!
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Haha glad to have helped! Honestly this phone would be up for sale if it weren't for LOS and AOSiP. Night and day difference n my opinion.

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tanwg said:
Just would like to update and blame myself for the lack of preparation when I last tried to move to LOS.
I tried again last night, and it was completed smoothly with my issues at all. Now I have a rooted LOS 15.1! It IS actually quite easy. So, as i say, i am just updating to clarify .
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what is your opinion on it so far? latest LOS 15.1 vs stock oreo 8.1. What do you notice, particularly in smoothness, battery life, and stability? is it worth it? Thanks

c19932 said:
what is your opinion on it so far? latest LOS 15.1 vs stock oreo 8.1. What do you notice, particularly in smoothness, battery life, and stability? is it worth it? Thanks
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LOS is better in smoothness for me while stock has slightly better battery. As for stability, I think they are about the same. I have been fully on LOS since then as I like the features on LOS, such as ambient display, immersive mode and there has been no reason to go back.

RR is the best so far imo

tanwg said:
LOS is better in smoothness for me while stock has slightly better battery. As for stability, I think they are about the same. I have been fully on LOS since then as I like the features on LOS, such as ambient display, immersive mode and there has been no reason to go back.
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thanks for your input. how does ambient display work on LOS? does it light up on notification, do periodic screen on, or screen on upon motion? I am coming from an htc 10 sense OS so things are different.

Oreo on RedmiNote3 - why back to Nougat!?

I used Oreo-ROMs now for a few weeks - everyone I tested for at least three days or more. But EVERY Oreo-ROM doesn't work for me like Nougat did before. Latest Oreo-ROM I used was LOS15.1 Nightlies. Battery was ok but 2-3 less SOT then N...GPS was ok...but so many bugs everywhere. Launcher often didnt let me into menue by longpress on screen, Quickpic wasn't running well, Mixplorer didn't let me cut'n'paste from internal memory to sdcard, contacts are gone a few times, SElinux is unsafe... and so on. It feels Nougat wasn't buggy at early state as Oreo is today. So many buggy Oreo-ROMs and Nougat lives in forgotten background..why?!?
Today I'am back to latest LOS14.1 and what should I say - perfect, smooth, all apps running like they should!

when android 7 apper, android 6 is best. wait to fix

as like nogut this is gonna take a while . remember how long it took for nogut to get fp & camera fc fixed.

Probably Oreo will never be as stable as Nougat.

I'm on LokManSiu's LOS 15.1 + Agni Kernel + Magisk since 3 weeks.
I found only two bugs : bluetooth calls and SDcard with exfat are KO.
My SOT is 30min better than with Nougat. Play Store is certified and SafetyNet is OK. No FC. No problem with apps.

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Probably Oreo will never be as stable as Nougat.
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Maybe :silly:

Several of bugs that you mentioned are los bugs. It actually frustrated me that lineage 15.1 is full of bugs and way too behind compared to others. P previews are already started and yet they are still dealing with the nonsense bugs which has already been solved in other roms.
I miss CM even more now.

scrubjay55 said:
Several of bugs that you mentioned are los bugs. It actually frustrated me that lineage 15.1 is full of bugs and way too behind compared to others. P previews are already started and yet they are still dealing with the nonsense bugs which has already been solved in other roms.
I miss CM even more now.
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We all miss Good Old Cm.

preyan said:
We all miss Good Old Cm.
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Why? LOS14.1 works perfect on my Kate. Battery is very good, all sensors are working, all features are working, speed is good...no showstoppers like BT-call in Oreo at all.

Lecterr said:
Why? LOS14.1 works perfect on my Kate. Battery is very good, all sensors are working, all features are working, speed is good...no showstoppers like BT-call in Oreo at all.
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Nostalgia is a weird thing my friend. CM has served us all for many years. Few years back CM was all we had to work with. Even though LOS replaced CM, it still lives in our hearts... and in many of our old devices too.
#Old&OutdatedStillGold

Yeah ,soon android p is going to launch and the devs will work to get a p based custom ROM

All oreo roms still use Nougat or older blobs and just overriding, so need to use a lot of shims and cause more bugs, most of bugs fixed already but still have completablity issue, so why oreo is not stable as Nougat

Marvin424242 said:
I'm on LokManSiu's LOS 15.1 + Agni Kernel + Magisk since 3 weeks.
I found only two bugs : bluetooth calls and SDcard with exfat are KO.
My SOT is 30min better than with Nougat. Play Store is certified and SafetyNet is OK. No FC. No problem with apps.
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I've been using LokManSiu'e LOS 15.1+ his kernel + magisk since 2 months or more i guess. Bluetooth calls and random reboots sometimes are the only bug i found works perfectly other than that.

This thred is about orea or nougat bt let me highlight another point.. Stock or miui.... I've been using stock for past 1 year.. I rooted my RN3 jus a month after i got it... I ws on RR nougat earlier then NOS oreo, AOSIP and many other ones on oreo.. To be frank after all those additional features i found stock roms to lack the basic functions.. Call quality dropped.. Proximity sensor was unstable so accidentally muted calls.. Gps fix took time.. Battery drained faster..cudnt reject calls from my smart watch.. After all this i thought about trying one of the ported miui 9 roms.. Trust me im much more happier.. I need my fone to be reliable evn if its less in features.

vgpranav said:
This thred is about orea or nougat bt let me highlight another point.. Stock or miui.... I've been using stock for past 1 year.. I rooted my RN3 jus a month after i got it... I ws on RR nougat earlier then NOS oreo, AOSIP and many other ones on oreo.. To be frank after all those additional features i found stock roms to lack the basic functions.. Call quality dropped.. Proximity sensor was unstable so accidentally muted calls.. Gps fix took time.. Battery drained faster..cudnt reject calls from my smart watch.. After all this i thought about trying one of the ported miui 9 roms.. Trust me im much more happier.. I need my fone to be reliable evn if its less in features.
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Dnt ryt like... ths..

BlueJeans said:
Dnt ryt like... ths..
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What?

I tried to go back to MIUI (Epic on 7) and then MM Stock but I already miss too many features in Nougat, particularly PiP with vanced, then Gcam on MM, and I quite like the new pixel launcher. + split screen works well on AEX (with most apps) even if there is a huge battery loss I'd rather charge my phone more given my usage.

I'm using Oreo for months on my Kate. RR+Agni kernel, Magisk, Dolby does the job and with the right setup its rock stable, I have basically no problems at all.
LOS 15 has no official support for RM3 that's why it's so buggy. You should give others a try before judge after some weeks of using one that wasn't the best on Nougat either.
Anyway: anyone uses built in launchers of any ROM if that isn't Nova?

We are left behind with MM blobs which supported very well for N roms and thats the reason we have pretty stable N roms. IMHO official LOS 14.1 is the best custom rom till date for me(not a fan of much customization)... Battery backup is amazing with stock kernel and with magisk modules it satisfies all my needs. The only choice we have now is to wait for mi max N sources as its the only device we have a common chipset. Also xiaomi has launched 2 more devices and developers are now moving to the new devices we would expect a very less support soon for us. Stay strong brothers. If we had 625 chipset, we would have got stable awesome oreo builds by this time. Lucky rn4 nd mi A1 device users, they will surely have support till Android P...

It's good to know that someone has brought this up. Everyone is running for the latest and the greatest but forgetting the things we're leaving behind with Nougat. I've been on RR, AEX, NOS but it was all unreliable after a point. I decided to give LOS a try and there it was. Less features but good enough to keep me here. I miss ViperOS though. It was rock stable and with tons of features. The only thing I miss on LOS is Substratum support. All my themes that I bought has gone waste lol. Wish there was still support for Nougat based ROMs like LOS. Only if there was Substratum support...
Can anyone suggest me a few?

Lineage/AOSP very stable?

Hello everyone.....
If I went through every post I could probably find the answer to this question, but....im due to go away for a week....and as a serial flashaholic, I want a very stable (calls, texts, browsing, camera and video camera and the odd game) Rom....i in reality want a nougat Rom, but it's gotta be aosp/Los Rom that will not crash or bugger up....
I don't use GPS or swipes or any other bits, been there done that... just want the above....and a good battery too....
Can anyone help???
GARY

Lineage Oreo is stable for me. A few reboots in 1st hour, but now stable as stock

Without good camera and gps

biggary said:
Hello everyone.....
If I went through every post I could probably find the answer to this question, but....
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One of the best Nougat ROM's out there is ViperOS by Luke, search for it under Exynos Development. Great battery, decent camera you can use GCam Mod for way better quality) and no bugs whatsoever.
Currently running Ivan's latest Lineage OS 15.1.

Will give this a go....cheers bud

Stock oreo horrible battery life

Lately I installed Nfound oreo rom (EU ). This rom has really bad battery life compare to Nougat- even with jojoc battery tweak. Does this happen only on me? Any possible fix?

same here， I am back to stock B35.

tamahouse said:
Lately I installed Nfound oreo rom (EU ). This rom has really bad battery life compare to Nougat- even with jojoc battery tweak. Does this happen only on me? Any possible fix?
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I get about 2:30 SOT either way, so i thought it wasn't any worse when i was using it. Might as well be your phone, idk

llaalways said:
same here， I am back to stock B35.
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Nougat has bad performance or bad compatibility (fingerprint and some apps are slow). I am thinking of roll back to MM, but I really dont want to.:crying:

tamahouse said:
Nougat has bad performance or bad compatibility (fingerprint and some apps are slow). I am thinking of roll back to MM, but I really dont want to.:crying:
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Try AEX Whit the new kernel or even dirty unicorns last release very stable smooth and battery friendly ?

Jojoc always been bad for me on stock rom,i dont use it.On nougat stock i get 3 to 4 hours sot with playing games.Now im on RDX 8 oreo

luisaet82 said:
Try AEX Whit the new kernel or even dirty unicorns last release very stable smooth and battery friendly
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Stock rom has the best camera (I do use selfie camera for social life )

tamahouse said:
Stock rom has the best camera (I do use selfie camera for social life )
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Not anymore, Gcam with HDR+ is vastly superior on the front camera

rom suggestion

hello dudes, i've been that kind of user that tries many mods and reads up about every possibility, but now sadly i have no more time for it :c (uni+work+gf+everything else)
i'm running an s7edge exy with stock rom and i'm considering switching to a custom one. actually battery life on stock is still amazing but i miss root features (and i totally hate that hecking youtube premium ad that keeps showing up) and that extra useful rotate suggestion button that came in pie.
what i'm more interested in are speed, battery and ad hoc features (always on, edge lighting, edge tabs): some friend of mine suggested me that pie performs alot better than oreo and now i'm asking: is waiting for 10 roms worth it or not (will it perform even better?) ?
would you suggest a stock rom or a samsung oneui based? is there any actual list to look up for?
ty alot ♥

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the_cr0w said:
hello dudes, i've been that kind of user that tries many mods and reads up about every possibility, but now sadly i have no more time for it :c (uni+work+gf+everything else)
i'm running an s7edge exy with stock rom and i'm considering switching to a custom one. actually battery life on stock is still amazing but i miss root features (and i totally hate that hecking youtube premium ad that keeps showing up) and that extra useful rotate suggestion button that came in pie.
what i'm more interested in are speed, battery and ad hoc features (always on, edge lighting, edge tabs): some friend of mine suggested me that pie performs alot better than oreo and now i'm asking: is waiting for 10 roms worth it or not (will it perform even better?) ?
would you suggest a stock rom or a samsung oneui based? is there any actual list to look up for?
ty alot ♥
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Black diamond N8 v2 with Thunderstorms kernel 2.3 pie will be good for you. Good performance and battery.
If you want Android 10, Los 17 beta is out and in the coming weeks a stable version should be out.

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UsmaniMustafa said:
Black diamond N8 v2 with Thunderstorms kernel 2.3 pie will be good for you. Good performance and battery.
If you want Android 10, Los 17 beta is out and in the coming weeks a stable version should be out.
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Does it perform better or worse than stock? The latest stock ota seems to have caused a few freeze tho

the_cr0w said:
Does it perform better or worse than stock? The latest stock ota seems to have caused a few freeze tho
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For daily usage it performs better with good battery life. If you play games on your phone that stay on stock.

I'm also interested to know your advises. I'm in the same situation

UsmaniMustafa said:
Black diamond N8 v2 with Thunderstorms kernel 2.3 pie will be good for you. Good performance and battery.
If you want Android 10, Los 17 beta is out and in the coming weeks a stable version should be out.
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Would you suggest to wait for LOS or not? I mean, it's just about stability or there is some difference in terms of performance (between Los and black diamond)?

(and why blackdiamond n8 instead of nfe? I can't find the difference but the nfe looks more updated, isn't it?)

I would rather go with a pure 8.0 Oreo ROM that looks like it used to look on Nexus 5X. Just pure Android. Does anyone know where can I find one?

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(and why blackdiamond n8 instead of nfe? I can't find the difference but the nfe looks more updated, isn't it?)
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The experience on N8 id way better and the experience is more fluid. Samsung basically made the Note FE pie firmware just because they had to because of the note 7 fiasco so the libs are not well optimized. N8 is a lot better imo.
As for LOS. I will recommend waiting for the stable release of LOS17. The beta version have bugs. I also don't recommend LOS16 because i haven't had a good experience on jt.
My go to configuration is N8 with Thunderstorm kernel.

UsmaniMustafa said:
The experience on N8 id way better and the experience is more fluid. Samsung basically made the Note FE pie firmware just because they had to because of the note 7 fiasco so the libs are not well optimized. N8 is a lot better imo.
As for LOS. I will recommend waiting for the stable release of LOS17. The beta version have bugs. I also don't recommend LOS16 because i haven't had a good experience on jt.
My go to configuration is N8 with Thunderstorm kernel.
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understood. do you know if there is something even faster based on pure android instead of oneui?

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understood. do you know if there is something even faster based on pure android instead of oneui?
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As of now, oneui is the most stable way to go.
I'm currently on los17 and its blazing fast. Just wait a little until los17 gets stable and then switch to it

UsmaniMustafa said:
As of now, oneui is the most stable way to go.
I'm currently on los17 and its blazing fast. Just wait a little until los17 gets stable and then switch to it
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but los isn't oneui, isn't it?

the_cr0w said:
but los isn't oneui, isn't it?
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Los is AOSP. Stock android.
Oneui is that you will find in S8,N8,s9.........

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Los is AOSP. Stock android.
Oneui is that you will find in S8,N8,s9.........
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As I thought...
Do you think we'll need to wait alot for los Q to be in stable release?

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As I thought...
Do you think we'll need to wait alot for los Q to be in stable release?
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Hopefully in a couple weeks

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Hopefully in a couple weeks
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Hii! Sadly I've just discovered that LOS doesn't feature Always on nor edge lighting, or at least that is what they told me on the telegram group.
Should I pick the note based Rom that you suggested in the beginning? What about OneUI2 or Android 10?

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Hii! Sadly I've just discovered that LOS doesn't feature Always on nor edge lighting, or at least that is what they told me on the telegram group.
Should I pick the note based Rom that you suggested in the beginning? What about OneUI2 or Android 10?
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Yes Los is based on Aosp and has no samsung crap.
Just clean android focused on performance and battery.
As fas as Oneui is Blanckdiamond is good.
Once OneUi2 is out for s10 series , developers will try to port it but porting android 10 to a legacy device is hard and i doubt s7 will get a fully stable build of OneUi2.