washed out colors on P4 screen? - Google Pixel 4 Questions & Answers

Just got my P4 today and observed that the colors are extremely muted compared to my P3. Is this the same for everyone?
I hadn't rooted my P3 and planned on using my P4 also that way. . But if this is the case and Google doesn't fix it, I'll have to root my P4 to change the display profile.

sacthegreat said:
Is this the same for everyone?.
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Same here. Looks awfully dull compared to my OnePlus 6.

Might be a silly question, but have you tried adjusting the color profile in settings to "Boosted"? Either way, Displaymate has already confirmed that the displays colors are extremely accurate and cover the entire DCI-P3 color gamut spectrum. So you may just be used to artificially oversaturated colors.

Alcolawl said:
Might be a silly question, but have you tried adjusting the color profile in settings to "Boosted"? Either way, Displaymate has already confirmed that the displays colors are extremely accurate and cover the entire DCI-P3 color gamut spectrum. So you may just be used to artificially oversaturated colors.
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No doubt that is the case. Sadly I prefer a slightly oversaturated display. I have it on boosted now, I'm sure I'll get used to it eventually.

Have you tried turning off Ambient EQ? I found the whites to be too warm with this on.

Im coming from the HTC 10, the pixel 4 is indeed less saturated, but the display is pretty damn good. Im using the adaptive settings, boosted increases saturation slightly

One thing I did notice when comparing to my Pixel 3 is that the 4 XL's screen is a lot warmer than the 3. I first thought of the "true tone" setting on the iPhone, but I don't remember google having anything like that.

stevew84 said:
One thing I did notice when comparing to my Pixel 3 is that the 4 XL's screen is a lot warmer than the 3. I first thought of the "true tone" setting on the iPhone, but I don't remember google having anything like that.
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I noticed it when I went from my P3 to the 3a. In sure it's similar. You really do get used to it when the display is so nice.

Strange, I have found the complete opposite. In the Tmobile store, the Pixel 4 had more pop and color than the S10. Also, in a s10 vs pixel 4 review on youtube the pixel clearly had more color and the s10 looked washed out.

Update : I went to the store and checked for a demo pixel 4. That had an amazing display. Vibrant colors and good white balance. That means I have a dud!

That means two display manufacturers? or just some bad units? or maybe software?
What I can't understand is that under settings->display->colors... Yo have "natural" "boosted" and "automatic"... and the automatic setting doesn't correspond to any of the first two... What does it mean?

You tried the saturated profile right? (Is it called now "adaptive"?)
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I tried the Pixel 4 in a store and the natural setting doesn't look natural at all. I took photos with the camera app and the colors were definitely less saturated than reality. The adaptive setting produced more natural colors with the camera app. I wonder whether other users can confirm whether some units have a worse/better display?
I only know that previous Google phones had severe differences. Some Google phones seem to have a yellow tint, this happens for years. I remember that the store had a Pixel 3 XL or Pixel 3, which had an extreme yellow tint whereas a Pixel 3a looked great.

I can confirm this is true on my Pixel 4 as well. There is a very noticeable difference in color pop from the Pixel 3 to the Pixel 4, no matter what display setting I set. I originally thought it was the Amazon tempered glass screen protector, but I peeled it off and the dullness remained. Hopefully this gets fixed.

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Screen Adjuster

Guyz I bought a galaxy note last week...just out of the box i saw a yellowish tint all over the display basicaly from the bottom left.....
so i got an app screen adjuster
i installed then adjusted the blue at +5 and now 90% of the yellowish tint is gone..
soo i have to ask is it safe to use this app????
heres the link to the app Here!
Sure its safe to use but if your note is flawed from the factory then take it back ??
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I use it to lower the contract to -40 as it fixes some of the black rendering issues. I also set the overall brightness down to 75% as it is just set too bright (I turn it off when outside).
I have never fiddled with the colour as my colour renders perfectly. I agree that if it is not rendering correctly, send it back for a replacement. It will likely only get worse.
jeromepearce said:
I use it to lower the contract to -40 as it fixes some of the black rendering issues. I also set the overall brightness down to 75% as it is just set too bright (I turn it off when outside).
I have never fiddled with the colour as my colour renders perfectly. I agree that if it is not rendering correctly, send it back for a replacement. It will likely only get worse.
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interesting how it helps you to solve some black rendering issues, but not at all for me.
Yeah its awesome but lags my ICS ROM down
its awesome app ... removes black blocks completely on videos .... is it factory issue with my note .. as i think it should work correctly be default .... isnt it ? ....
For sure is a very good and safe app but better now that is brand new it s better to take it back....
I have observed the similar thing.
I have now bought 4 Notes for myself and my family members (Yeah I know, 4 people in family with Note ). My personal one manufactured in October and those bought recently (3 of them, all made in January 2012) have different colour reproduction.
The new ones have slightly warmer colours when you look dead on (with slight shift to blue when you look at it from bottom at extreme angles which is to be expected).
But straight on, the new Note has colour reproduction similar to my Galaxy Nexus. ITs slightly warm. Its definitely not the colour calibration as it remains same regardless the ROM I use. Its definitely not like traditional SAMOLED blueish display like my old Note or SGS2 which I had before that.
All 3 which are manufactured in Jan 2012 have same colours. All 3 bought from different stores few days apart. But I dont think its bad thing. It actually little warmer like Nexus and is more closer to real life colours. I know that many people prefer artificial looking, eye popping SAMOLED colours, but I am definitely not complaining.
Funkym0nkey said:
I have observed the similar thing.
I have now bought 4 Notes for myself and my family members (Yeah I know, 4 people in family with Note ). My personal one manufactured in October and those bought recently (3 of them, all made in January 2012) have different colour reproduction.
The new ones have slightly warmer colours when you look dead on (with slight shift to blue when you look at it from bottom at extreme angles which is to be expected).
But straight on, the new Note has colour reproduction similar to my Galaxy Nexus. ITs slightly warm. Its definitely not the colour calibration as it remains same regardless the ROM I use. Its definitely not like traditional SAMOLED blueish display like my old Note or SGS2 which I had before that.
All 3 which are manufactured in Jan 2012 have same colours. All 3 bought from different stores few days apart. But I dont think its bad thing. It actually little warmer like Nexus and is more closer to real life colours. I know that many people prefer artificial looking, eye popping SAMOLED colours, but I am definitely not complaining.
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My Note has Black Color Blocking in videos ... so its faulty ? should i send it back in warranty ?
arsalan_qamar said:
My Note has Black Color Blocking in videos ... so its faulty ? should i send it back in warranty ?
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Black colour blocking is universal as far as I know. All of the Notes I have seen have it with hardware accelerated video playback. Using software decoding using players like MX video player or MoboPlayer or BSPlayer solves the issue for now and there is already work under way to fix this issue. I dont think you need to return your phone for this as new one will most likely have same issue.
What I mentioned was regarding general colour reproduction of the screen. The new Notes have slightly warmer colours everywhere. Be it in home screen, browser, gallery or video.
arsalan_qamar said:
My Note has Black Color Blocking in videos ... so its faulty ? should i send it back in warranty ?
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No, it's not faulty. Color banding or black blocks are just artifacts introduced by developers or the video encoding process for the most part - the issue is generally not apparent on TFT display types since the LCD layer isn't able to block 100% of the light to show you a true 'black' pixel.
Good dithering can hide the problem somewhat, but on OLED displays it's more difficult since they are far better with contrast.
You could look at it one of two ways...
You have a superior display technology that the world just needs to catch up with.
Or you have a worse screen because it doesn't hide what other display types are incapable of rendering.
Take your pick : )
dtchky said:
No, it's not faulty. Color banding or black blocks are just artifacts introduced by developers or the video encoding process for the most part - the issue is generally not apparent on TFT display types since the LCD layer isn't able to block 100% of the light to show you a true 'black' pixel.
Good dithering can hide the problem somewhat, but on OLED displays it's more difficult since they are far better with contrast.
You could look at it one of two ways...
You have a superior display technology that the world just needs to catch up with.
Or you have a worse screen because it doesn't hide what other display types are incapable of rendering.
Take your pick : )
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Thats a relief ... i was also thinking the same thing as , other colors looks quite nice on my note ... only issue is the blocky blacks which on less resolution videos are more visible .... however i was able to solve the issue using screen adjuster app by setting contrast to 55% ... at that it displays no blocky blacks at all ... just the screen gets an overlay of grey for pure blacks..... i can live with it ...

[MotoX] [2014] Purple Display at Low Brightness [Lollipop] [Amoled]

Okay so I bought a new Moto X (2014) last week In India. Everything about the phone is great. It was already on lollipop. But when I decrease the brightness to below 30-40% the display gradually becomes more and more purple. And with Adaptive Brightness on and in a dark room, it's so purple that the green and yellow shades appear grey or black. I know amoled panels have this problem at very low brightness and apparently many Nexys 6 users are also facing it. However I didn't see many complaints here in the Moto X forum.
So if you have this problem please vote in the poll above. Then I can ask them for a replacement. Thank you.
I'd later add some photos of the screen.
P.S. If you are experiencing this, please add some photos so that people can compare it with their displays.
ok i have this problem too, but when I'm in the bed and reading random news this purple display isn't disturbing me. i can feel it relax more my eyes. so i can say i take advantage from a bug
I don't think this is a bug, way easier on the eyes in the dark, perhaps some kind of a feature on AMOLED and Lollipop. The Nexus 6 has it, too, i think.
I don't know if anyone else noticed that in direct sun light, the screen goes extra bright - like indoor bright + boost?
This is not a feature. It's an issue with amoled displays. That's why Samsung limits the lowest brightness to a higher level. While Moto X seems to go way down. I just want to know if everyone's having this. Then it's okay. But if it's not everyone then there're some good amoled panels out there and we are getting the bad ones.
Yup, keep noticing this before the screen goes completely off.
It's not a "bug" with AMOLED displays, it's inherent to the way the displays work. Red LEDs use much less power than other colors so when the brightness is down low the displays looks like it has a slightly red tint to it. While Samsung does keep their best displays for themselves the lack of a red tint is not due to that but is instead due to not letting the brightness go as low on their displays.
raptir said:
It's not a "bug" with AMOLED displays, it's inherent to the way the displays work. Red LEDs use much less power than other colors so when the brightness is down low the displays looks like it has a slightly red tint to it. While Samsung does keep their best displays for themselves the lack of a red tint is not due to that but is instead due to not letting the brightness go as low on their displays.
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That's what I meant. Not quite the best choice of word, I guess. But if that was the case, everyone should have had the pink tint at low brightness. Do you mean the ones who are not getting it are either lying or have Moto X's with LCD panels?
CosmoDroid said:
That's what I meant. Not quite the best choice of word, I guess. But if that was the case, everyone should have had the pink tint at low brightness. Do you mean the ones who are not getting it are either lying or have Moto X's with LCD panels?
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Well, only 2 out of 11 people have reported no color distortion. And remember that while you're asking "Is there a purple tint?" they're answering the question "Have you noticed a purple tint?"
What I've noticed is that when Adaptive Brightness is on, the display gets super dark and causes the purple tint. When I turn Adaptive Brightness off in a dark room, it actually completely loses the purple tint, and compared to my Galaxy Tab S 8.4 at lowest brightness, the screen is brighter than the Tab S. So I guess Motorola hasn't caught up with Samsung's display technology since my Tab S can actually get dimmer without such a dramatic color distortion - for my Moto X to get to a brightness level that dim, I need to turn on Adaptive Brightness (thus with the purple tint).
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I wouldn't say it gets a Purple tint but rather a reddish one with adaptive light.
And I LOVE it. This way I don't have to install Lumen.CF or any other stuff. Way easier on the eyes at night and it gets reeeeeeaally dark. Just perfect!
I also love that it naturally has a lower white temperature point than other lcd/phones screens. Warmer white is cozy white.
7 votes for without purple/red tint.
People who are not seeing the tint, can you please upload a side by side photo of "your phone at lowest brightness with the adjustment bar visible" and "a white paper".
CosmoDroid said:
7 votes for without purple/red tint.
People who are not seeing the tint, can you please upload a side by side photo of "your phone at lowest brightness with the adjustment bar visible" and "a white paper".
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I voted for no color distortion as my display is very very good. I can tell you there is certainly a variation in displays. A few months back someone posted about being able to see color banding and such. Those of us with really good displays do not see that. I was going to order a Pure edition to replace my unlocked XT1097 but the display is so good on it I decided not to, I doubt another one will be as good. I had 5 different Moto X 2013 models and the displays varied on each of them as well. I kept the best one and my 2014 model is still quite a bit better then the best 2013 I had.
Steve-x said:
I voted for no color distortion as my display is very very good. I can tell you there is certainly a variation in displays. A few months back someone posted about being able to see color banding and such. Those of us with really good displays do not see that. I was going to order a Pure edition to replace my unlocked XT1097 but the display is so good on it I decided not to, I doubt another one will be as good. I had 5 different Moto X 2013 models and the displays varied on each of them as well. I kept the best one and my 2014 model is still quite a bit better then the best 2013 I had.
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The rest of the phone in my case feels pretty solid and well built. Also I'm getting 47k+ scores on Antutu. Hence I am having second thoughts about getting it replaced.
My PE doesn't turn purple and has better whites than my AT&T branded one. The screen on that one is awful to me but I also use a G2, iPhone 6, '13 N7, no one notices but me.
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After three replacements, I finally got a decent one. :laugh:
I'm pretty sure this is just a feature of the moto x2 go to Settings/Display and turn off adaptive brightness, you will see that it changes to normal
born1690 said:
I'm pretty sure this is just a feature of the moto x2 go to Settings/Display and turn off adaptive brightness, you will see that it changes to normal
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Indeed, when adaptative brightness is turned off, purple tint will not occur. However, I am not sure this is a "feature". It actually looks more like a poor implementation of auto brightness.
CosmoDroid said:
Okay so I bought a new Moto X (2014) last week In India.
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I use the CF Lumen app to turn down the red and green just a tad in the master mode. That makes my screen less pinkish.
I had the purple display issue in 5.0. Now I upgraded to 5.1 and the issue is gone. Colors are well balanced down to minimum available brightness.
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I had the purple display issue in 5.0. Now I upgraded to 5.1 and the issue is gone. Colors are well balanced down to minimum available brightness.
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Running 5.0 having the same issue waiting for the update. Will report back thanks for this info I thought it's a amlod display issue, new to this display past few years was on lcd panel device's just got this device more than a week only now. But this is a great news. Thanks.

sRGB mode.. Does it exist?

I have a favor to ask... can someone with a 6P verify that the sRGB mode exists in the developer settings?
I have a 6P on order but I am concerned that is has a Samsung screen. I find Samsung screen colors to be disturbingly inaccurate. At least up until the 6 which has color option modes to bring it more inline with industry standard colors.
Nobody has one yet. Trust me, you will know when someone does, there will be 1000 threads about it.
Also, I've never heard of sRGB mode in Android. I've been developing ROMS for 6 years. Can you be more specific?
Some ROMS allow you to tweak the color output slightly, but not all. That's generally not a hardware screen-dependent thing. I have a Note 4, S3, and GNex, and all screens appear to produce quite vivid colors. Green is green, red is red, and so on. Actually looks very accurate.
How are you coming to the conclusion that, for example, it can't display blue as blue? What are you calling "industry standards"? You have something to gauge that with?
This is from the AMA
Yep, confirmed: Nexus 6P has the latest generation panels from Samsung. One of things we deeply care for is the quality and accuracy of the display through which all of us connect with the stuff we care about. We created a very tight spec (white-point temperature, delta-E variance, color-space accuracy, etc) for the 6P WQHD AMOLED panel, so it was important that we use the most cutting edge panel technology available.
Crazy Homeless Guy said:
I have a favor to ask... can someone with a 6P verify that the sRGB mode exists in the developer settings?
I have a 6P on order but I am concerned that is has a Samsung screen. I find Samsung screen colors to be disturbingly inaccurate. At least up until the 6 which has color option modes to bring it more inline with industry standard colors.
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There you go: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-review-preview-so-far-its-everything-id-hoped/
scroll down to the bottom of the article if you don't want to read it all-it's there
Pecata said:
There you go: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/10/19/nexus-6p-review-preview-so-far-its-everything-id-hoped/
scroll down to the bottom of the article if you don't want to read it all-it's there
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Thanks. That confirms it.
chevycam94 said:
Nobody has one yet. Trust me, you will know when someone does, there will be 1000 threads about it.
Also, I've never heard of sRGB mode in Android. I've been developing ROMS for 6 years. Can you be more specific?
Some ROMS allow you to tweak the color output slightly, but not all. That's generally not a hardware screen-dependent thing. I have a Note 4, S3, and GNex, and all screens appear to produce quite vivid colors. Green is green, red is red, and so on. Actually looks very accurate.
How are you coming to the conclusion that, for example, it can't display blue as blue? What are you calling "industry standards"? You have something to gauge that with?
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The sRGB mode is new to the Nexus 6p, and hopefully new to Marshmallow in general.
I find AMOLED screens, especially Samsung AMOLED screens to be highly inaccurate in reproducing color. The majority of the internet is designed to be viewed in sRGB color space. Samsung uses a wider gamut color space which causes images to be supersaturated and not true to how they were meant to be viewed. Most of the AMOLED screens I have seen also reproduce white poorly as well. Industry standard white point for digital screens is 7500k. This produces a nice slightly warm white tone. The stark whites that many people gravitate towards are usually slightly blue and not actually white.
Everyone has there opinion of what they like but I prefer industry standard to assure I am viewing things as they are intended to be viewed.
In my opinion srgb mode is TOO desaturated. The saturation is too high with it off and too low with it on. Shame, I was hoping for a middle ground.
The sRGB option is horrific to look at, God this device has terrible options for screen calibration.
Native its massively over saturated with very popy cilors ( ala Samsung )
sRGB looks like some one lent on the gamma and brightness sliders.
It's one extreem to the other no middle ground - his bless custom kernels with color control down the line
sRGB is better on the eyes at night in lower brightness
hutzdani said:
The sRGB option is horrific to look at, God this device has terrible options for screen calibration.
Native its massively over saturated with very popy cilors ( ala Samsung )
sRGB looks like some one lent on the gamma and brightness sliders.
It's one extreem to the other no middle ground - his bless custom kernels with color control down the line
sRGB is better on the eyes at night in lower brightness
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Not a fan of the sRGB either, don't mind the defaults at all though
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Crazy Homeless Guy said:
The sRGB mode is new to the Nexus 6p, and hopefully new to Marshmallow in general.
I find AMOLED screens, especially Samsung AMOLED screens to be highly inaccurate in reproducing color. The majority of the internet is designed to be viewed in sRGB color space. Samsung uses a wider gamut color space which causes images to be supersaturated and not true to how they were meant to be viewed. Most of the AMOLED screens I have seen also reproduce white poorly as well. Industry standard white point for digital screens is 7500k. This produces a nice slightly warm white tone. The stark whites that many people gravitate towards are usually slightly blue and not actually white.
Everyone has there opinion of what they like but I prefer industry standard to assure I am viewing things as they are intended to be viewed.
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Nope, both sRGB (99% of computer content) and Rec. 709 (99% of HDTV content) use a 6504K white point. They also share the same color gamut.
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Crazy Homeless Guy said:
I have a favor to ask... can someone with a 6P verify that the sRGB mode exists in the developer settings?
I have a 6P on order but I am concerned that is has a Samsung screen. I find Samsung screen colors to be disturbingly inaccurate. At least up until the 6 which has color option modes to bring it more inline with industry standard colors.
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Pray that kernel developers bring color control asap because this displey is very poorly calibrated at best. And that srgb mode simply makes you want to throw up when you see it in action.
chevycam94 said:
Nobody has one yet. Trust me, you will know when someone does, there will be 1000 threads about it.
Also, I've never heard of sRGB mode in Android. I've been developing ROMS for 6 years. Can you be more specific?
Some ROMS allow you to tweak the color output slightly, but not all. That's generally not a hardware screen-dependent thing. I have a Note 4, S3, and GNex, and all screens appear to produce quite vivid colors. Green is green, red is red, and so on. Actually looks very accurate.
How are you coming to the conclusion that, for example, it can't display blue as blue? What are you calling "industry standards"? You have something to gauge that with?
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Nvidia Shield Tablet has sRGB default, sRGB Automatic and Native profiles, so that is at least one other device with it and now the Nexus 6P has it, not sure about any other devices though.
SliChillax said:
In my opinion srgb mode is TOO desaturated. The saturation is too high with it off and too low with it on. Shame, I was hoping for a middle ground.
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I would agree with this. It's a shame we don't have more granular control.
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Nope, both sRGB (99% of computer content) and Rec. 709 (99% of HDTV content) use a 6504K white point. They also share the same color gamut.
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Mistype on my part.. I meant 6500k. I could probably tolerate 7500k though as long as it is within sRGB space.
I know this thread is a little old, but I just ordered my 6P so I've been doing research. sRGB mode is one thing I was interested in since I've always found amoled screens to be oversaturated, but I've also always been able to tweak them on my phones (Samsung Notes) through the stock rom. The Note 4 has a very accurate color setting called "Basic" and my Note 3 had it as well but it was called something else ("Movie" I think). The Note 4 got great marks on accurate screen colors with that "Basic" mode though. I figured since the 6P uses lower binned Note 5 screens that it would hopefully have something similar, and was hoping the sRGB setting would be just that. It seems though that the sRGB mode is too undersaturated.
Would it be possible to integrate that screen setting from the Note 5 or 4 somehow in a custom rom or maybe an app? I've not looked into how accurate the settings are in the Note 5 since I had no interest in upgrading to that phone over my 4, but I'll look into it. Someone else feel free to chime in.

Honestly, Pixel 2 XL screen is better than Galaxy S8+

I know, I know. I'm going going against what everyone else says, but I'm not trolling... I actually prefer this screen. Is it perfect? No. But my wife has the Galaxy S8 and I really do prefer the Pixel 2 XL screen over the Sammy's.
It actually has a more even color compared to the Samsung's. The S8 has a reddish tint when looking straight on that is uneven. Some areas are more red than others. Tilting the phone makes it worse. The Pixel's screen is nearly perfect looking straight on. I like the more natural colors too. And I find the Pixel 2 XL screen to be more visible in certain outdoor lighting. I think the 2 XL screen is slightly sharper looking too. Again, it's not without it's flaws, but all and all, I think I like this screen better than the competition.
This is utter nonsense, Samsung display is significantly brighter. That is not even subjective but a fact (565 nits vs 460 nits).
Unless your girlfriend has a defective device everything you said is wrong.
I dig my pixel 2 xl and would never trade it for Samsung but this kind of Google *********** annoys me.
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*MOD EDIT*
Let's watch the cursing. Thanks.
I agree that despite all the idiots *****ing about the color representation, my screen is nice. No overly blue tint shift or burn in. It looks good. I have installed Oreo colorizer but only because of withdrawal from a 6p sammified
If you actually read my post, you would have noticed I said it's brighter in certain outdoor conditions. Content seems more visible during overcast conditions on the Pixel 2 XL. I'm not talking about nits. There's more to visibility than nits. Screen reflectivity and other factors are important too.
This screen is better than the Samsung's. Colors are nicer. It's more visible outside and I don't have any of the so called issues that the few sky is falling people out there have been whining about.
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It's more visible outside? I don't get how that's possible since the Samsung display is brighter. Are you talking about with sunglasses on?
I'm EXTREMELY excited to see how this polarized screen works (I have HUGE pupils and I live in Vegas so I pretty much live with my sunglasses 24/7)
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It's more visible outside? I don't get how that's possible since the Samsung display is brighter. Are you talking about with sunglasses on?
I'm EXTREMELY excited to see how this polarized screen works (I have HUGE pupils and I live in Vegas so I pretty much live with my sunglasses 24/7)
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Just is. Maybe it's the polarization but it is brightness be damned
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I kind of agree. I use Automate and have a profile that automatically adjusts the brightness of the screen based on the lux value. I had to lower the multiplier because it was much brighter in different lighting conditions. I am also coming from an S8+. I really don't know why everyone is complaining about the screen. It's not that bad at all.
I don't have any complaints about blue tint, grain, black crush, burn-in, muted colors or anything like that. But what I really dislike is that there's an orange/brown tint to everything that at times makes stuff look vintage 70s. I'm going to see if the saturated mode in the new update will fix it, otherwise I'm going to have to install a custom kernel with color controls to try to get the colors right. The colors on this thing is definitely not properly calibrated.
It's not. I have both phones. I don't mind the more realistic colors of the Xl. I want to see what the update does.
I have both and the XL 2 has become my daily driver! Looking good so far!
The screen looks fine but it is, by no stretch of the imagination, better than the screen on the S8, S8+ or Note 8. Don't get me wrong, after having my 4 month stint with the S8 (which was great), I'm absolutely loving my LG G30 and would still take it over the S8, despite the screen. The screen on the V30 is nowhere near as crisp and clear as the screen on my S8 was. And to say it gets brighter than the S8 screen would just be a flat out lie.
I even took time to compare my V30 side by side with a 2 XL and another S8 in the Verizon store and the S8 screen puts both to shame in every regard. Side by side the V30 and 2 XL screens look identical, but that's to be expected considering LG made them both, seemingly around the same time.
Personally, I'm willing to give that screen up to get rid of Touchwiz and gain those beautiful sounding front facing speakers on the 2 XL (mine arrives Monday). But I cannot pretend that I'm getting a superior screen with either my V30 or 2 XL, because that simply is not true.

Pixel 2 XL NEW SATURATED Display Mode Nov UPDATE - Comparison vs NOTE 8 vs Pixel XL

Google releases November security patch that includes new display color modes (Boosted, Natural, Saturated) for the Pixel 2 XL to help with the screen color saturation issues/problems. Update includes fixes for screen burn-in and the ear piece clicking noises. Love that Google added this options, in that way people that want accurate colors can use the "Natural" mode, those custom to Samsung's "saturated" (candy) colors, can now pick "Saturated" mode. All about having choices.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omu5r2v941A
Update:
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
Just got the update, loving it !
Colors are much much better . To my eyes at least.
Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
Redrockzz said:
Do you guys experiencing any differences regarding the blue shift after the update?
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That's caused by the polarized layer afaik, not sure how saturation would change that
I couldn't really notice a difference... Will see when I get the phone and update is applied.
But I was happy with the colours when I looked at it in the shops..
Wasn't so impressed with the blue screen off axis. 1 was spot on, 2 were shockingly bad.
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I don't like the saturated mode, colors are too bright and white is more red now. Sticking with the original boosted mode, I like the more natural colors.
Oh, and no help to the blue shift since that is hardware based.
Man I can't wait for kcal.
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Looks terrible to me. Yellow whites and colors are extremely off to me. Boosted is my go to.
Yup after using the phone in saturated mode for two days I'm back with the boosted mode. Saturated mode is REALLY saturated. I find it even more saturated than the Note 8.
Too hard to tell in a video, but in person saturated makes everything pop like it's a Samsung panel. Pretty nice, I love it when I'm not in the mood for the most accurate colors.
I definitely appreciate the update Google.
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
PMad said:
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
Misterxtc said:
I think it has helped the blue tint look better on mine too. Mine wasn't terrible to begin with but on boosted mode it looks even better. I would love to see a slider too like on the Note 8 I had. That would please many people.
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I agree! With saturated mode i think they are also changing the color temperature because there's sortof on dark orangish or reddish tint over everything now where before it was more of a bluish tint. We need the slider!
PMad said:
I've found that the saturated mode is great when navigating android, but when looking at real life pictures, boosted is best. I think we need a slider to fine tune it to our own likings. I think we need a little more saturation than boosted, but less than saturated.
Has anyone else noticed that when you look at a picture and angle it for the blue tint it actually looks better? I took a picture of my daughter and the saturation makes her face look red, but when i tilt it, the extra blue overlayed on top of it looks almost perfect!
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I noticed this too, saturated mode is good but it is a bit too red for me and the colors do make pictures look unnatural but I managed to mitigate some of that with KCAL using root and snoke kernel. I turned down the red and green a bit so now it has a blue hue closer to the natural setting. I also turned down the saturation a bit.
Directly from Google; Further enhancements will be included in our planned December software update and on an ongoing basis thereafter. Our goal is for your Pixel phone to get more useful and delightful over time.
So maybe we will get a slider after all? We'll find out soon enough.
I still like boosted the best.
In case someone hasn't got the update YET.... I just posted a step by step guide on how to sideload the OTA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTfgOeNfQqE
I'm loving saturated mode. Besides the whites being more reddish instead of blue it's pretty close to what my OG Pixel XL was.
If you guys want to know what really colors should look like either buy or find a monitor with 100% coverage on sRGB range and which are properly factory calibrated.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/monitor-colour-spaces-adobergb-srgb-2949078
I am 100% the pixel or for that matter any phone out there lacks realistic representation of colors, and therefore images.
Whites should be at 6500k.
Also be wary of your photos you take, what you see could be severely oversaturated but in reality its probably not so good or vivid.
To this date, there is no phone with realistic colors.
Cost and people being addicted to neon colors could be reasons.
So is boosted the exact same as "vivid colors" or is it a little bit better?

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