Moto z4 retail/vzw - Moto Z4 Guides, News, & Discussion

I bought the retail version of the Moto Z4 and couldnt get video and wifi calling up and running. I then unlocked bootloader and installed verizon firmware. Just ensure you have video and wifi calling provisioned on sim card before you switch. I have rooted the phone with Magisk and removed all of the verizon crap i hate. So after about 5 years with no root, I sort of have a verizon phone with root. It will even let you update the firmware from the computer if you want to, not sure about OTA because I haven't had one yet. You will just need to redo boot.img with Magisk.

Do you know if this will work with the Unlocked version (XT1980-3)? Or is that the same as the retail version? The only two models I'm aware of are the XT1980-3 (Unlocked) and XT1980-4 (VZW). Which model is the "retail" version?

IIRC, the XT1980-3 is considered retail, so I'd say that one

clevertrevor777 said:
Do you know if this will work with the Unlocked version (XT1980-3)? Or is that the same as the retail version? The only two models I'm aware of are the XT1980-3 (Unlocked) and XT1980-4 (VZW). Which model is the "retail" version?
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XT1980-3 is the one I have and is considered retail.

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Can the verizon variant be fully converted to unlocked version?

Hello. I have been on the forum for days searching for answers for the sprint variant, which is hard to find solid proof of it working completely on gsm. Now for the verizon variant. If I buy a verizon variant will it work fully on GSM carriers like at&t?
Plus can it be fully converted? Including radio, to the US unlocked version? I have done it in the past with the at&t m8, converting it to unlocked variant with s-off, cid change, and ruu. I see tutorials saying to flash unlocked version to then reflash verizon radio. Will it work with unlocked radio? Or is it the same as with the sprint variant, where it always needs sprint radio?
Thanks for any help.
liquidzorch said:
Hello. I have been on the forum for days searching for answers for the sprint variant, which is hard to find solid proof of it working completely on gsm. Now for the verizon variant. If I buy a verizon variant will it work fully on GSM carriers like at&t?
Plus can it be fully converted? Including radio, to the US unlocked version? I have done it in the past with the at&t m8, converting it to unlocked variant with s-off, cid change, and ruu. I see tutorials saying to flash unlocked version to then reflash verizon radio. Will it work with unlocked radio? Or is it the same as with the sprint variant, where it always needs sprint radio?
Thanks for any help.
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The unlocked HTC 10 is compatible with AT&T and T‑Mobile Networks.
The verizon variant can be converted to unlocked, read here
kc6wke said:
The unlocked HTC 10 is compatible with AT&T and T‑Mobile Networks.
The verizon variant can be converted to unlocked, read here
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Thanks. I had read that forum, but since the guide posted says to flash verizon radio, I was wondering if you could leave the unlocked radio. After reading various posts afterwards it seems it is posible to not flash the verizon radio (keep the unlocked radio).
liquidzorch said:
Thanks. I had read that forum, but since the guide posted says to flash verizon radio, I was wondering if you could leave the unlocked radio. After reading various posts afterwards it seems it is posible to not flash the verizon radio (keep the unlocked radio).
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Correct, you can fully convert to Unlocked without flashing anything Verizon afterwards. Im using my Vzw 10 on a gsm network, converted to unlocked.
Tarima said:
Correct, you can fully convert to Unlocked without flashing anything Verizon afterwards. Im using my Vzw 10 on a gsm network, converted to unlocked.
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Thanks. I will look into buying the verizon variant. Did you also have to sim unlock? Or will flashing the unlocked version ruu take care of that? I truely doubt it, but I can not find any verizon unlocking service. And the only 10's I can find are locked to verizon.
liquidzorch said:
Thanks. I will look into buying the verizon variant. Did you also have to sim unlock? Or will flashing the unlocked version ruu take care of that? I truely doubt it, but I can not find any verizon unlocking service. And the only 10's I can find are locked to verizon.
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Verizon 10 is not sim locked. You can take it, in stock Verizon form, and insert a gsm sim card and it will work. The real benefit of converting to unlocked is to have direct updates, have access to more lte bands, and best of all not have Verizon's bloated OS.

International Firmware

Before I start, this is the first android phone I've ever owned so the question may or may not be stupid.
So I live in India and I saw the trade-in deal for the S8. I was in need of an upgrade (iPhone 6) so I went for it as I was heading to the U.S soon. I heard that the international version gets updates sooner than the unlocked U.S version. Can I just change my firmware to international, get earlier updates with no drawback? If yes then why have I not seen a lot on this?
Pretty sure the firmware is locked to the device unless you root. I had an unlocked international S6(920?F) . It updated a lot earlier than the W released in Canada.
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ExLite23 said:
Before I start, this is the first android phone I've ever owned so the question may or may not be stupid.
So I live in India and I saw the trade-in deal for the S8. I was in need of an upgrade (iPhone 6) so I went for it as I was heading to the U.S soon. I heard that the international version gets updates sooner than the unlocked U.S version. Can I just change my firmware to international, get earlier updates with no drawback? If yes then why have I not seen a lot on this?
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If the device you get is G950F (international) then updates will come sooner. If you get any other version they are for specific regions, so if you get G950U (US unlocked) you can't flash international firmware to it. Can only flash firmware for the model you get.
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If the device you get is G950F (international) then updates will come sooner. If you get any other version they are for specific regions, so if you get G950U (US unlocked) you can't flash international firmware to it. Can only flash firmware for the model you get.
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Then what are the benefits of people switching carriers for example? There seem to be a bunch of threads giving a tutorial on how to change firmware to different carries e.g. From a T Mobile to Unlocked.
ExLite23 said:
Then what are the benefits of people switching carriers for example? There seem to be a bunch of threads giving a tutorial on how to change firmware to different carries e.g. From a T Mobile to Unlocked.
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For stuff like WiFi calling, voLTE, removal of bloat some csc tweaks
Guess that's unfortunate.

Calling All Detectives (US997)

I purchased a used US997 that appears to be a LG demo or test phone. It activates and works, but the software version is still from May of 2017. What is the date of the current stock software for the US997? Furthermore, I attempted to unlock the bootloader and got denied. The message says "Your device (TEST_GPIN) does not support unlocking the bootloader." Hence my thinking the phone is a beta/test version of the consumer model. Does anyone have any experience or knowledge on this? At this juncture, I am posed to return the phone.
Thanks in advance.
There are two versions of the US997. One is the US Cellular version, the bootloader can not be unlocked. The other is a non US Cellular version that can be unlocked. You need to go to the LG developer website and submit your IMEI and they will email you a file that can be used to unlock the bootloader. If you have a US Cellular version, they will reply that your phone is not unlockable.
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There are two versions of the US997. One is the US Cellular version, the bootloader can not be unlocked. The other is a non US Cellular version that can be unlocked. You need to go to the LG developer website and submit your IMEI and they will email you a file that can be used to unlock the bootloader. If you have a US Cellular version, they will reply that your phone is not unlockable.
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I am aware that there are the 2 versions. What I have is not the US Cellular version of the phone. It is a demo or test model of the US997 unlocked phone. However, I can't unlock the bootloader and it doesn't look like it is capable of receiving OTA updates.
Irieone said:
I am aware that there are the 2 versions. What I have is not the US Cellular version of the phone. It is a demo or test model of the US997 unlocked phone. However, I can't unlock the bootloader and it doesn't look like it is capable of receiving OTA updates.
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US997 is also the model number of the U.S. Cellular phone. Both the open market US997 and U.S. Cellular US997 are identical in every respect, EXCEPT the U.S. Cellular is not eligible for bootloader unlock.
You have a demo or test model US997 which was NEVER sold at retail by authorized 3rd party retailer like B&H Photo. Thus, it's not eligible for bootloader unlock. The ones that are eligible would not come up TEST_GPIN and their IMEI numbers would in the LG Developer bootloader unlock database.

Unbranding h910 AT&T

Hi.
I am expecting delivery of an LG V20 h910 from eBay in the coming days, but don't have an AT&T SIM (EU user).
Is there a way to flash an unlocked, stock version of the software (eg US996) so I can update the phone to the latest version?
I heard non-AT&T SIM users don't get updates thru AT&T, so wondering how I can get the latest software for it.
I would prefer not to root the phone, but would do if necessary (and if I can then get a fully functional, up-to-date software version).
Thanks in advance.
AWT86 said:
Hi.
I am expecting delivery of an LG V20 h910 from eBay in the coming days, but don't have an AT&T SIM (EU user).
Is there a way to flash an unlocked, stock version of the software (eg US996) so I can update the phone to the latest version?
I heard non-AT&T SIM users don't get updates thru AT&T, so wondering how I can get the latest software for it.
I would prefer not to root the phone, but would do if necessary (and if I can then get a fully functional, up-to-date software version).
Thanks in advance.
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First off, if its not sim unlocked phone, it will forever stay sim locked unless you get the network unlock for it. EVEN if you flash any of the other brand roms. Also, AT&T doesn't have the full stock kdz to revert to, there are work arounds to return to stock. This phone has trouble with the screen ghosting/retention, as well as bonkers HDR camera performance, also not to forget, GPS inaccuracy upto 50 meters. I'd suggest look away from LG unless you're going for LG v30 which doesn't carry any of these issues.
If you have already bought, paid and "expecting" shipment anytime soon, you should make sure that its network unlocked H910. (make backup of your partitions before flashing any other brand rom because you will need modem, modemst1, modemst2 and misc partitions in-case you lose the signals). Then you can easily flash it with H915 rom which is the best among debloated stock roms. Flash H910 v10m firmware over it, then flash the modem/modemst1/modemst2/misc files from fastboot to get network signal. From there on forward, you may keep H915 rom with H910 v10m base, or you can even move on to lineage roms. I'd suggest stay rooted with manual color calibration for no-ghosting measures.
AWT86 said:
Hi.
I am expecting delivery of an LG V20 h910 from eBay in the coming days, but don't have an AT&T SIM (EU user).
Is there a way to flash an unlocked, stock version of the software (eg US996) so I can update the phone to the latest version?
I heard non-AT&T SIM users don't get updates thru AT&T, so wondering how I can get the latest software for it.
I would prefer not to root the phone, but would do if necessary (and if I can then get a fully functional, up-to-date software version).
Thanks in advance.
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You can't flash another variant rom until you unlock the bootloader and root. As far as functionality with the 996 will depend on the bands your carrier supports
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I received my used AT&T V20 yesterday also bought from eBay. I'm on O2 and it works fine. Just be sure your phone is network unlocked. Only thing is the bloatware.
So much misinformation in this thread, but I will just address the original question....
Yes, you can flash the US996 KDZ without rooting .. just flash like you would any other KDZ. You lose some AT&T specific features while running US996, but if you are overseas, I don't think that will bother you.
As far as I know, that will SIM unlock the phone if it is locked. If it doesn't, then the engineering bootloader that you use to root will SIM unlock the phone as well as bootloader unlock it.
So, first try the US996 KDZ, if that doesn't SIM unlock, you will have to root.
-- Brian
CaseyS said:
I received my used AT&T V20 yesterday also bought from eBay. I'm on O2 and it works fine. Just be sure your phone is network unlocked. Only thing is the bloatware.
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Did you get any system updates?
runningnak3d said:
So much misinformation in this thread, but I will just address the original question....
Yes, you can flash the US996 KDZ without rooting .. just flash like you would any other KDZ. You lose some AT&T specific features while running US996, but if you are overseas, I don't think that will bother you.
As far as I know, that will SIM unlock the phone if it is locked. If it doesn't, then the engineering bootloader that you use to root will SIM unlock the phone as well as bootloader unlock it.
So, first try the US996 KDZ, if that doesn't SIM unlock, you will have to root.
-- Brian
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The phone should come pre-unlocked for all networks. I'm mainly concerned about system updates. US996 sounds good, as I can't use AT&T here (AT&T doesn't exist in my country). Would I be able to update the firmware in any way once US996 KDZ is installed? Thanks in advance.
AWT86 said:
Did you get any system updates?
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No system updates. Had the latest update with the latest security patch, but I downgraded because I want to root it. Still 7.0, but with a earlier patch level.

Lg v20 us996 ucl

I'm thinking about buying a used US996 UCL (locked to US Cellular) to use on T-Mobile network.
Is there a service selling the unlock code for this phone? I haven't found any service that specifically say they do US Cellular phones.
If I root the phone, can I sim unlock it myself? Are all versions of this phone root-able, or will I need to check for something specific (security software version, firmware version, etc.)?
These are really noobish questions, but I hope someone can help me. Thanks!
According to their policy, all U.S. Cellular phones from February 2016 and newer already come SIM unlocked, so that's probably why you couldn't find any unlock codes/services:
https://www.uscellular.com/site/legal/mobile-wireless-device-unlocking.html
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According to their policy, all U.S. Cellular phones from February 2016 and newer already come SIM unlocked[/URL]
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Wow, that's really nice of US Cellular. It's a shame they have no presence where I am.
Thanks!
V20 are locked at OS level, flashing to a carrier-less firmware (US996), or a firmware from a carrier that doesn't lock their phone (everything aside from T-Mobile and Sprint), or an AOSP ROM (LineageOS) will unlock the device. Unless its a H918 or LS997, you don't have to worry about SIM locking

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