Joying PX5 vs SC9853 head unit, which one? - Android Head-Units

Hello everyone, I'm looking for an Android head unit for my ride, because of how the dash is built I got my requirements down to this
1 din only
minimum 2GB of RAM
screen and 1 din unit need to be separate, connected by a cable
7-8 inch maximum
I ended up focusing on Joying units since they tick all the boxes, my main candidate right now is this
aliexpress.com/item/32821949276.html
Basically an SC9853, 2GB RAM, Android 8.1
I also found a local offer for an almost identical Joying unit for a slightly lower price with these specs
PX5, 2GB RAM, Android 8.0
I know that the PX5 is slower than the SC9853. Are there any areas in which the PX5 unit will be better? Better support and more custom ROMs perhaps?
Which one would You choose?
Is it possible to update any of these head units to Android 9.0?

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Choose Rockchip RK3188 or Allwinner T3?

Hi,
I am going to install an Android add-on unit to the stock head unit for my 2012 Porsche Cayenne, like in this link:
http://www.carnavigationbox.com/sal...-auto-interface-car-multimedia-interface.html
I have the option to choose
1) RK3188, 1,2 GHz quad core, 2 GB RAM and Android 4.4
2) Allwinner T3, 1,2 GHz quad core, 2 GB RAM and Android 6.0
Which is the better platform and CPU? I got the impression that the Allwinner T3 CPU is not that good, but is it better than the Rockchip option?
I'd avoid any units still running android 4.4, KitKat. That OS is old as dirt, and had a lot of security holes. Even Lollypop (5.x.x) is looking a little dusty these days. Whatever unit you decide on, I'd highly recommend Marshmallow or newer (6.x.x+).
As far as RK3188 vs Allwinner T3, they are both discount chipsets. I have personally used the Allwinner T3 and T8 units, and they aren't bad at all. It all depends on what you want out of the unit. Do you want instant-on, or only instantly available reverse camera? Do you have an amp? Do you have kid screens and need RGB out? Do you listen to lossless music, and need high fidelity audio?
Truth is, none of these units are without problems. At this point, the most feature complete units are the Dasaita PX5 units, with the Joying Intel units not too far behind.
Rottgrub said:
I'd avoid any units still running android 4.4, KitKat. That OS is old as dirt, and had a lot of security holes. Even Lollypop (5.x.x) is looking a little dusty these days. Whatever unit you decide on, I'd highly recommend Marshmallow or newer (6.x.x+).
As far as RK3188 vs Allwinner T3, they are both discount chipsets. I have personally used the Allwinner T3 and T8 units, and they aren't bad at all. It all depends on what you want out of the unit. Do you want instant-on, or only instantly available reverse camera? Do you have an amp? Do you have kid screens and need RGB out? Do you listen to lossless music, and need high fidelity audio?
Truth is, none of these units are without problems. At this point, the most feature complete units are the Dasaita PX5 units, with the Joying Intel units not too far behind.
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I wish I could install a PX5 or Intel unit in my car, but there are none available units that fits. I am not sure whether an universal unit would work, as my car has an original BOSE sound system with fiber optics. Sadly I only see the units mentioned above for this car so my options are very limited.
I had a 10.4 " Android unit specifically build for the 2012 Cayenne, but the Allwinner A31 CPU and its software was extremely buggy and slow and could not run the DAB+ software smoothly without stuttering. Hence, I am a bit sceptical towards Allwinner units. I had to return it and I am now looking for other options.
ynorynor said:
I wish I could install a PX5 or Intel unit in my car, but there are none available units that fits. I am not sure whether an universal unit would work, as my car has an original BOSE sound system with fiber optics. Sadly I only see the units mentioned above for this car so my options are very limited.
I had a 10.4 " Android unit specifically build for the 2012 Cayenne, but the Allwinner A31 CPU and its software was extremely buggy and slow and could not run the DAB+ software smoothly without stuttering. Hence, I am a bit sceptical towards Allwinner units. I had to return it and I am now looking for other options.
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If you are starved for choice, the T3 is the way to go. It's plenty fast for use as a head unit. The thing that makes most of the older units choke is lack of memory. 1GB units just couldn't cut it. 2GB lets the system keep more applications in memory longer, which cuts down on problems.
That said, if you are worried about the T3, I'd do some research to see if the PX5 universal units will work. Basically, if Crutchfield will sell you an Alpine/Pioneer/whatever 2din to fit in there, then you should be able to mount up an Android Universal.
Rottgrub said:
If you are starved for choice, the T3 is the way to go. It's plenty fast for use as a head unit. The thing that makes most of the older units choke is lack of memory. 1GB units just couldn't cut it. 2GB lets the system keep more applications in memory longer, which cuts down on problems.
That said, if you are worried about the T3, I'd do some research to see if the PX5 universal units will work. Basically, if Crutchfield will sell you an Alpine/Pioneer/whatever 2din to fit in there, then you should be able to mount up an Android Universal.
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I haven't yet found any of the Alpine/Pioneer/Kenwood system that are compatible with my car. But isn't the RK3188 the same as PX3? I see that some have upgraded from a PX3 to PX5 board. If I choose the Rockchip RK3188 option, is the upgrade to PX5 possible?
ynorynor said:
I haven't yet found any of the Alpine/Pioneer/Kenwood system that are compatible with my car. But isn't the RK3188 the same as PX3? I see that some have upgraded from a PX3 to PX5 board. If I choose the Rockchip RK3188 option, is the upgrade to PX5 possible?
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Upgrading the RK3188 system board to PX5 is a big, BIG maybe. First you'd need to make sure that the MCU is MTCD or MTCE. If it's a MTCC or earlier, it's not compatible with PX5. Then, assuming it's MTCD, you'll need to find a source for the PX5 upgrade board. Last I read, those were pretty scarce. Then, of course, you are cobbling together one unit from two. So say goodbye to any support or warranty.
So, not impossible... just not sure it's worth the time, money, and frustration when placed against trying the T3 unit.

Dasaita Hot Audio - Android 8.0 - 4GB of RAM - PX5 overview

I know there are various threads open discussing various items, but I figured if anyone doesn't have an Oreo unit with 4GB of RAM, you might want to see how it looks.
This is Model number HA2162-V840-8 for a Jeep which has a 7 inch screen, 4GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, a Rockchip PX5 Octa-Core 64-Bit Coretex A53 processor, and runs Android 8.0 Oreo
https://youtu.be/xkD2B9ONxls
I think the Xtrons is similar, but I dont have that one, I just have the Dasaita, and @hotaudio frequently posts here
CadillacMike said:
I know there are various threads open discussing various items, but I figured if anyone doesn't have an Oreo unit with 4GB of RAM, you might want to see how it looks.
This is Model number HA2162-V840-8 for a Jeep which has a 7 inch screen, 4GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, a Rockchip PX5 Octa-Core 64-Bit Coretex A53 processor, and runs Android 8.0 Oreo
https://youtu.be/xkD2B9ONxls
I think the Xtrons is similar, but I dont have that one, I just have the Dasaita, and @hotaudio frequently posts here
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Hello,
I am thinking to change my old mtcb rk3188 1gb unit to a newer one. I am between dasaita hotaudio (7in 1024*600) and xtrons (6.2 in 800*400).
Are you still happy with the dasaita unit? Do you run a stock ROM w/o root, or a custom ROM?
Thanks in advance
p_mike83 said:
Hello,
I am thinking to change my old mtcb rk3188 1gb unit to a newer one. I am between dasaita hotaudio (7in 1024*600) and xtrons (6.2 in 800*400).
Are you still happy with the dasaita unit? Do you run a stock ROM w/o root, or a custom ROM?
Thanks in advance
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I am still running Dasaita, great product. Make sure you get one with 4GB of RAM
CadillacMike said:
I am still running Dasaita, great product. Make sure you get one with 4GB of RAM
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Hey Mike,
Are you still rocking the Dasaita?
I recently sold my car with my 2GB Joying Intel Sofia in it. It was an ok unit but a little sluggish at times and always seemed to have a Bluetooth disconnect/reconnect bug.
Looking for a replacement now and debating who to go with. Seems to be a toss up between Joying and Dasaita at the moment.
Looking for a 4gb/32gb universal 2din (with hardware buttons) I know from your previous posts that you have dabbled in a few of these units! What do you think is the best in your opinion?
fado5ster said:
Hey Mike,
Are you still rocking the Dasaita?
I recently sold my car with my 2GB Joying Intel Sofia in it. It was an ok unit but a little sluggish at times and always seemed to have a Bluetooth disconnect/reconnect bug.
Looking for a replacement now and debating who to go with. Seems to be a toss up between Joying and Dasaita at the moment.
Looking for a 4gb/32gb universal 2din (with hardware buttons) I know from your previous posts that you have dabbled in a few of these units! What do you think is the best in your opinion?
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I still have the Dasaita, running solid, no issues. Mine is the Jeep specific unit, here is an overview video:
https://youtu.be/xkD2B9ONxls

Switching a px3 for px5 board newbie question

Hi,
I have 2 android head units.
Both pumpkin, one is a px5 octacore, 4 gb ram, 32gb rom, other is px3 quad core, 2gb ram 16gb rom.
I'd like to switch the main pcb between the 2 (use the px5 on the 10 inch device where the px3 currently resides).
The 2 devices have different MCU's, the px5 unit is CSN2 based whereas the other uses the other more common firmware.
Is the mcu stored within the radio itself and is switching the boards going to be enough, or will I need to look to reflash the mcu firmware too (ie switch device firmware)
I'm going to give this a go tonight so thought I'd ask before I even think about the swap out
Thanks
Steve
To answer my own question, this can't be done. The other board is a px30, not a px3 and has a different pin layout to px5

Head Unit Advice

Hi All,
I'm looking at options for an Android Head Unit for a 2011 Mazda 6 (GH) - and there's also a Windows based Dynavin unit in the mix. Any recommendations based on spec or experience? Are there any other manufacturers / resellers that I've not considered.
It looks like the Belsee is the highest spec unit of the lot if I'm reading the spec properly but the downside is a lack of a UK reseller. The Windows unit has decent RAM but the CPU appears slower compared to the Android units but I guess it's a more "focussed" unit on its specific task so doesn't need the same amount of grunt to run lots of Android apps.
Belsee (with the PX6 upgrade option / 4GB RAM / 64GB ROM) - Google "Belsee Best Aftermarket Android 10 Q Auto Head Unit Stereo Upgrade Car Radio Replacement for Mazda 6"
Eonon MTK 8227L / 2GB RAM / 32GB ROM (model number Eonon GA9498B)
Xtrons MTK A7 / 2GB RAM / 16GB ROM (model number Xtrons PST90M6M)
And the Dynavin unit (model number MZ002IX) for comparison seems to be based on their N7 Pro for which the spec sheet says it runs on Windows and is a 833MHz CPU with 4GB RAM.
Tried to post links but I'm new to the forums so can't unfortunately!
Many thanks,
Craig
First of all, what do you plan on doing with your head unit? I sincerely doubt there is any reason to buy the Windows unit, especially with lackluster specs.
Will you install an aftermarket sound system? Or are you keeping everything original? Will you want to use your phone with the unit? Do you have iOs or Android?
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Head unit replacement/upgrade advice request (xtrons pep series)

Firstly apologies if this is in the wrong thread.
I currently have an old android head unit of unknown vendor but running a HA mcu and Hal9k android 10.
I upgraded the head unit from a px3 to a px5 coreboard with 4gb ram.
My unit is one of the ones which has bluetooth issues on android 10.
I am now looking at replacing the head unit with a new one and have seen this one from Xtrons:
https://xtrons.co.uk/seat-various-android-11-octa-core-2gb-ddr4-ram-32gb-rom-pep91ibs
My concern is that it has only 2gb of ram however it is ddr4 instead of ddr3.
I am also unable to work out which cpu is fitted and if it is a mtcd etc unit.
Does anyone have any experience with the 2gb xtron pep series and if so does it multitask okay please? (mainly wanting spotify whilst using waze)
I have seen so many different ones on ebay but like that this is direct from a vendor.

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