Moto / Pie Recents button - vertical vs. horizontal - Moto G7 Questions & Answers

So I just rebuilt my rooted / stock Verizon G7 after manually applying the latest update, and noticed something weird (to me). The Nova Launcher Prime that I have used for years wouldn't stay the default Home, it kept reverting to the defaut Moto launcher. I made sure Nova was set as default, installed on internal storage and had all appropriate permissions, but it would flip back to Moto after a minute or two. I uninstalled almost every app, because sme people suggested this, but it still happened. I installed several other launchers just to test, but they had the same problem too.
The fix was to freeze/disable the Moto launcher. But this brings us to my problem.
The Recent menu button with the Moto launcher has the cool Pie Recent button where running apps come up horizontally. After freezing the Moto launcher, the Recents come up in the older vertical way. I know some people prefer the older way, but I genuinely prefer the new one. Nova previously let me use the horizontal Recent list, and I am pretty sure (but not positive) that I had the Moto launcher frozen.
Does anyone know how I can get the recent menu back to horizontal? I have GravityBox (P) installed, but this is one of the few things that it doesn't appear to do. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. I know this isn't a big deal, the phone works perfectly well and performance-wise, it was a steal for the money. Magisk, TWRP, xPrivacylua, AFWall, GravityBox, Nova and a few other largely aesthetic tweaks make it mine. But this one little thing is really annoying me, and I suspect that a lot of you know what I mean. Sometimes, perfect functionality isn't enough.

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[Q] Nav bar editing in KitKat (Mod)

Hello all,
Decided to join to KitKat gang, flashed the factory image, installed OTA update and rooted again. Really liking the overall KitKat rom and layout, particularly the improved dialer interface. I can now do away with ExDialer (never been one for installing lots of apps when not needed!).
I have Xposed installed along with Gravity module. Works great however I was hoping it might offer a little more customisation with the navbar, although I appreciate it's early days.
Has anyone seen a mod where I can change the buttons, ie change the recent apps to menu? In Gravity I can add an extra button for menu, but it still keeps the recent apps button there. I have never liked the recent apps button, never use it and would prefer it as menu button.
Thanks.
maritimesbob said:
Hello all,
Decided to join to KitKat gang, flashed the factory image, installed OTA update and rooted again. Really liking the overall KitKat rom and layout, particularly the improved dialer interface. I can now do away with ExDialer (never been one for installing lots of apps when not needed!).
I have Xposed installed along with Gravity module. Works great however I was hoping it might offer a little more customisation with the navbar, although I appreciate it's early days.
Has anyone seen a mod where I can change the buttons, ie change the recent apps to menu? In Gravity I can add an extra button for menu, but it still keeps the recent apps button there. I have never liked the recent apps button, never use it and would prefer it as menu button.
Thanks.
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Did you find a solution?
You can do this on custom ROM like CyanogenMod

[Q] Recommend a 4.4 ROM with stock LG features? (e.g. knock on, etc)

Hi there,
Seeking some advice on a ROM. Hate the look of stock LG G2, just installed stock-like kitkat on my old GNex and saw the google experience launcher with transparent everything, DO WANT. However I'm afraid of losing some features of stock LG software. Maybe you guys can recommend some ROMs, or if it's best to stay stock to get all the features I want, recommend some mods that will give me all the ROM features I want?
Things I NEED
Knock On/ Knock Off (LG feature)
4.4 Stock "Look and Feel" (fonts, transparent bars all around, appearance of time and battery and notifications bar, black instead of white setting menu, etc, you get the picture)
Always listening on the home screen, possibly the lock-screen, pretty much anywhere I can have it all over the UI (as per 4.4, not LG)
Recent Apps button instead of a menu button (as per 4.4, not LG)
Open apps from the lockscreen with apps icons already visible when looking at lockscreen (not the style where you hold finger over lock icon to see a choice of apps in a circle, and then have to swipe a specific direction. I used to have that and didnt like it as much as I like LG stock way of actually showing icons without you touching anything, and you swipe the icons, not a lock towards the icons)
Circle battery type thing on status bar that shows percentage
Things I haven't tried/am not sure about but might want from stock LG software, and might not want to lose flashing to custom ROM
Better stock camera?
SmartShare from the gallery app? (says it uses wifi/bluetooth to stream content to other devices)
Beam/DNLA/I don't even remember what it's called or what app I found it in?
Quickremote
You tell me please? I'm sure there's a bunch of stuff I've yet to discover that I might want (are any of LG's apps e.g. notebook useful?)
Things that are cool but not really necessary
Themes and a ton of extra features -- used to use AOKP and they had a decent amount of extra feature, not too few like CM, not too many like other ROMs where my head just starts spinning from all the features
Other
I'd really prefer not to have to wipe all the time, CM's OTA update feature was awesssooome when I had CM on my GNex, but CM is a little feature-lite for me, I mean it was good though, that's just a minor complaint. But if there's something better fitting my criteria above I'll put up with having to wipe to flash updates of the same ROM in the future if its necessary. I just never understood why OEMs can push OTAs to people and never make them wipe, but for custom ROMs (updating new versions of same ROM) I have to re-set-up everything every time
A lot of this stuff has been addressed already. Most ROMs have knock on built in, but not knock off. The work around is downloading an app that turns the screen off, and using a gesture control in another app (such as Nova Launcher) to double tap the home screen to turn the screen off. Though personally, I just have screen off set to my nav ring so I can access it from any page I'm on.
There's a flashable install here on the forums some where for Quick Remote. Works fine on AOSP ROMs.
As for 4.4 stuff, I have no idea.
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get an Iphone
Vepaot said:
Though personally, I just have screen off set to my nav ring so I can access it from any page I'm on.
How did you do that? I nowhere find a setting to change anything in the navigation ring.
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Huge thanks to the one who can help me solve this issue! (Home button delay)

An explanation of the issue:
When I press the home button, the home button lights up, but there's a lag between the phone registering my touch and actually going "home". This video sums it up nicely: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45J4dbN0mXI
Occurs almost every time, it's more prominent with 3rd party apps but there's even a delay when going home from "settings".
What I am running
Currently on OptimusG3 1.4 with Dorimanx 8.5.2.
What I've tried
Changing ROMS. The only ROMs where this issue doesn't appear are on AOSP roms.
Disabling G3TweaksBox and Xposed in general
Tried Nova Launcher (which I now use as my primary ROM)
Freezing the Default LG launcher
Uninstalling the default LG launcher
Speeding up animations.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
UPDATE!
The issue seems to be apparent on Nexus 4 too, found this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-4/general/home-button-lag-android-4-4-kitkat-t2527703/page17
Switched to ART And now it's smooth but now I don't have xposed. Damn.
Still searching for a fix that doesn't include switching to ART
UPDATE:
I flashed the nexus 4 qualcomm dalvik libraries and I'm seeing a massive improvement. It's not entirely fixed, however. I still notice the animation stuttering, but overall it's much more fluid. If anybody knows how to eliminate this issue completely, let me know.

My Android P DP2 Experience

Just wanted to add my 2 cents on the DP2 of Android P.
So far my favorite thing is how fluid it is and how nice the animations are (it's more fluid than Oreo in every way -- animations, scrolling, opening apps, switching windows, etc.) . The animations are especially nice when using the Pixel launcher. You lose certain animations when using 3rd party launchers. I've always used third party launchers since 2011 because stock ones never have the features I want but The Pixel launcher on Android P is pretty dang cool. I still miss options like no widget padding, icon packs, icon and folder resizing, gestures, custom desktop and app drawer spaces, but even losing all that is worth it with how amazing Android P runs with the Pixel launcher.
My battery life was terrible the first 2 days and I was considering going back to Oreo but it seems to have settle down now. I still feel I was getting slightly better battery life on Oreo but I can't say for sure. I know others have said they are getting better battery life on P but so far that hasn't been my experience.
I haven't run into any major bugs and have only experienced a couple minor issues like brief freezing (1-2 seconds and has only happened a few times), and had recent apps freeze up twice but hitting the home button fixes it. I know some have reported a lot of apps crashing but I don't use many apps and haven't had any issues there.
For me it's a DD. Wi-Fi Tethering, calling, texting, bluetooth, and GPS all work with no issues.
I'm not a fan of some of the new UI changes but overall it definitely seems like a good step up from Oreo. I can't wait to see how it develops over the next 6 months.
Nice write up! Agree this P is getting better and better!
I know Facebook isn't the best app in the world, and I'm a beta tester for the official app. I cannot get it to install for the life of me. Very odd errors.. keeps throwing error 504
jbarcus81 said:
I know Facebook isn't the best app in the world, and I'm a beta tester for the official app. I cannot get it to install for the life of me. Very odd errors.. keeps throwing error 504
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I don't personally use facebook but I just checked it out because of your post and it installed fine. I also logged in and scrolled through it a bit and it worked fine. Not sure why it's giving you issues :/
imucarmen said:
I don't personally use facebook but I just checked it out because of your post and it installed fine. I also logged in and scrolled through it a bit and it worked fine. Not sure why it's giving you issues :/
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Could be an issue with the beta... I never thought much about it.
I beta test FB as well, and had issues trying to get the app to install too. I have it installed on my s9+, but couldn't get that one to update, so I found the apk for the version that's on the s9+, and it was able to install on the Pixel 2xl DP2. This leads me to believe it's the FB app itself, and not the phone.
Moostafa29 said:
I beta test FB as well, and had issues trying to get the app to install too. I have it installed on my s9+, but couldn't get that one to update, so I found the apk for the version that's on the s9+, and it was able to install on the Pixel 2xl DP2. This leads me to believe it's the FB app itself, and not the phone.
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Perfect! Now to hunt down the latest beta APK .. looks like 172.0.0.51.93 is the latest version.
I went back to Oreo the same day I flashed P DP2. This was the same day DP2 was released. I don't remember every detail but here are the things that made me go back:
- A handful of apps would simply not work/open. I forgot which ones they were.
- I don't like the way the Quick Settings look.
- I don't like it that the Quick Settings wont open a quick detailed view and instead just open the settings app. Seems minor, but is a step-back if you ask me.
- QS icons in landscape mode are out of place.
EDIT: - Accessing the settings app via notification drawer now requires you to pull down the drawer completely. That's because the gear icon becomes only visible/accessible when it's fully expanded, while in previous Android versions, like O, the gear icon was visible even on a collapsed notification drawer.
I reeeeally love the new sound controls!
very ugly LTE icon
Literally the only thing I don't like is that the gesture bar is still eating up screen space like the nav bar did and WTF on the LTE font/icon. There is no reason to not expand displayed content all the way to the edge of the display and have the pill hover over the content. Also I see no reason for the back button. If swiping in one direction takes you back to the last used app, make swiping the other direction the back button inside an app. Other than that, I much prefer the roundness of the UI seeing the the display corners of my Pixel 2XL are rounded. It just looks more cohesive. I was a huge fan of Flux Ui, so P taking on that styling cue is another plus to me. Also the animations are much better. I haven't tested a full day of usage for screen on time yet without my phone touching a charger at some point, but the fact that I'm consistently getting a 1 to 2 percentage battery drop overnight is already better than any android version I've been on.
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I went back to Oreo the same day I flashed P DP2. This was the same day DP2 was released. I don't remember every detail but here are the things that made me go back:
- A handful of apps would simply not work/open. I forgot which ones they were.
- I don't like the way the Quick Settings look.
- I don't like it that the Quick Settings wont open a quick detailed view and instead just open the settings app. Seems minor, but is a step-back if you ask me.
- QS icons in landscape mode are out of place.
EDIT: - Accessing the settings app via notification drawer now requires you to pull down the drawer completely. That's because the gear icon becomes only visible/accessible when it's fully expanded, while in previous Android versions, like O, the gear icon was visible even on a collapsed notification drawer.
I reeeeally love the new sound controls!
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I agree on all your points but for me the fluidity and animations more than make up for it. Hopefully some of those things you mentioned get addressed. I definitely do not like the new QS style.
darkoj2007 said:
very ugly LTE icon
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Agreed. That's is one of the new ui changes I'm not a fan of at all. It looks like it belongs on a phone from 6 years ago. Perhaps they did for people who are far sighted but it would be nice to have the option to use the old little LTE and 3g icons.
AndrasLOHF said:
Literally the only thing I don't like is that the gesture bar is still eating up screen space like the nav bar did and WTF on the LTE font/icon. There is no reason to not expand displayed content all the way to the edge of the display and have the pill hover over the content. Also I see no reason for the back button. If swiping in one direction takes you back to the last used app, make swiping the other direction the back button inside an app. Other than that, I much prefer the roundness of the UI seeing the the display corners of my Pixel 2XL are rounded. It just looks more cohesive. I was a huge fan of Flux Ui, so P taking on that styling cue is another plus to me. Also the animations are much better. I haven't tested a full day of usage for screen on time yet without my phone touching a charger at some point, but the fact that I'm consistently getting a 1 to 2 percentage battery drop overnight is already better than any android version I've been on.
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The gesture bar needs some refinement. I hate the back button as well. They need to at least make it have rounded corners and solid to match the rest of the ui. The sharp corners and hollow look really doesn't match and looks awful.
LTE and 3G icons are awful.
For some reason my battery just isn't performing as well on P as it did on Oreo. Especially the AOD -- it chews my battery up. It still easily get through the day with plenty of juice to spare and I work at home and always have a charger handy so it's not a problem.

Two button Pie Gesture navbar for G7??

I've come from an AOSP rom and the only thing that really annoys me about this handset is that motorola took away the ability to activate the stock Pie two button navigation feature in Gestures and replaced it with Moto Actions.
Does anyone know of a way of getting this back? I have looked at other pill options, but can't find anything that is the same. I'm on a rooted device.
To be honest,.after about 3-4 hours after purchasing I got use to the Moto Launcher apk pill. Gestures are taking a little time getting use too...
The Pix3lify module in Magisk will add it. That's what I use and it works great with no issues.

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