Need to expand my SATV Pro Storage - Shield Android TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hey guys,
I know this topic has been discussed to death here. But the only methods I found were either complicated or odd. I was wondering how I could expand internal storage which is currently 500gb on my Pro to like 4tb. Replacing internal HDD requires tons of Dev work which I know nothing about and connecting a USB external storage to use as internal is kinda weird as there is risk of it getting unplugged and device crashing... Are those the only ways to do it or is there an updated way that I didn't see ?

Well you could add an sd card to it. The pro version has a reader.
The only other way is aside from the ones you mention is setting up a NAS but that would be an external connection....

SD Card is much slower. Plus I need 4tb and am sure that a card of that size doesn't exist yet. As for why, well I got 2.5tb of game ROMs for various emulators that I want to move over... So yeah... Adding external is my only option for now... I guess...

Related

Dual MiniSD I/O possible?

i recently stumbled on a thread on Hackaday, where there was one entry where he managed to piggy back the connection of the SD and hard wired it to a SD Wifi, leaving the SD slot open for a SD memory card (parallel connection).
The question is, is it possible to do the same on an Atom? or any PPC for that matter? Maybe, a dummy SD or minisd with two MiniSD2SD connectors (for holder) in parallel so you could connect a minisd memory on one and a minisd wifi on the other. I wonder if the parallel connection will work?
Also correct me if im wrong, but i read somewhere that the SDIO uses two modes of communication with the SD, one is serial i think and the other is direct or something, but the latter is much slower and only good for devices like wifi and stuff and the direct method is for memory. So saying that, i guess 2 Memory card is not possible, and only Device and Memory is quite plausible.
I hope its possible. Anyone care to enlighten the subject?
why do you need to install an sdio wifi card to your atom when it already has built-in wifi? Anyway, it would be better if someone can make a sd to usb converter. This way, we can expand the sd card capacity to that of a flash drive. or maybe we can expand the RAM by replacing it with a flash drive? Anyway, maybe an expert can give his 2 cents on this.

Multiple Micro-SD cards..

Anyone have the knowledge to use multiple Micro-SD cards in the BA,
using an switch and and Micro-SD bridge?
Would be great if we could use more then one SD and up the available space.
Or maybe add two Micro-SD's to one adapter.
hmmm, intresting idea.
but i think the maximum space will be 4gb, due the fact that there is no SDHC driver for BA...
seems to be some kind of fat 16/32 problem.
could you post a link or a picture of the product you plan on using, i can't really picture it.
but if you already have something like that, you could also explain the way it works with a pc card reader.
here are some options i could imagine:
1. if you can combine 2 cards to some sort of raid system offering you one partition from 2 cards, it wouldn't work because of the maximum partition size.
2. if you actually switch between the cards and both are 4gb max, i could imagine that it works, on the other hand, when letting an adaptor for mini-sd or micro-sd in and just change the "small" inside card, it does not recognize the change. also, that wouldn't be such a great advantage in storage space, just a better way to carry a 2nd card.
3. if it combines 2 cards for permanent use of both and they are presented as 2 different partitions, it just might work, as the BA also supports several partitions on one sd card, and that way, data traffic between the 2 cards would also be possible.
also, i have to throw in: the fat16/32 in this case just influences the maximum file size, not the partition size. if the ba could just read fat16, you could simply make several 4gb partitions on a sdhc card ...if there was a sdhc driver.
There are a few card adapters for Stick Pro Duo that are for dual microSD cards. I don't think I have ever seen it for microSD to SD.
Hey Chef, here is a link for that
http://www.amazon.com/MicroSD-MicroSDHC-Adapter-Converts-Cards/dp/B001RPEJA4
It is a pretty nice idea and probably the BA will just see it as another drive (ie Storage Card1 and Storage Card2).
Those MicroSD > MS adapters look very interesting indeed.
Something like that would be great for SD as well. Havn't found anything though.
That is rather interesting..
But I think we are going to have to be creative here, and
make one our self.
Before attaching, and possibly destroying, some cards I would like some more information if possible.
Will/can the adapter detect them as two cards if we connect them together. Detect them as two partitions..
Or will it mess up completely.(Possibly) The BA can handle more memory, and will rename it's location accordingly that's for sure, but through an standard SD bridge..?
Can the internal bridge handle more then one device at a time..?
External: TV, GPS, Radio, Camera, WiFi ect. can be used with the SDIO interface, so it may be possible along those lines,
egzthunder1 said:
http://www.amazon.com/MicroSD-MicroSDHC-Adapter-Converts-Cards/dp/B001RPEJA4
.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
this adapter MS PRO DUO
fanik said:
this adapter MS PRO DUO
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you read my post, you would see that I said that even before the link was posted...

External MicroSD contents disappear!

Sorry if this topic has been covered, but I need a solution for this.
My 32GB Kingston Class 4 MicroSD get either partially wiped or totally wiped out when finishing a transfer och when transfer anything.
Anybody know what the cause may be? Its FAT32 so that is not the case.
Help will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers!
Possibly a bad card. I've run into several flaky 32gb micro-SD cards before, all from different manufacturers. They don't seem to be as reliable as the smaller ones. I would suggest removing the micro-SD card and reformatting it in a computer, PC or Mac. Make sure the allocation size is set to 32KB, and DON'T use quick format.
Alternatively, use SDFormatter to do the format. Then try again.
Just out of curiosity, what brand was that card?
Kingston 32 GB Class 4.
I dont believe its the card, I believe this is a software problem because I had similar problems with my previous 16 one and same thing happened a few times.
I formatted already will see how it works out.
iCurmudgeon said:
Possibly a bad card. I've run into several flaky 32gb micro-SD cards before, all from different manufacturers. They don't seem to be as reliable as the smaller ones. I would suggest removing the micro-SD card and reformatting it in a computer, PC or Mac. Make sure the allocation size is set to 32KB, and DON'T use quick format.
Alternatively, use SDFormatter to do the format. Then try again.
Just out of curiosity, what brand was that card?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, everytime i put something new and restart the tablet the things i just transfered are gone!
i've had this issue with 2, 4, 16 and 32Gb cards on my archos 101, g-tablet and iconia. 3 different manufacturers, 3 different android variants (not included various updates and roms)
adding .nomedia in the directory seems to stop files from disappearing, but why are they disappearing in the 1st place?
godashram said:
i've had this issue with 2, 4, 16 and 32Gb cards on my archos 101, g-tablet and iconia. 3 different manufacturers, 3 different android variants (not included various updates and roms)
adding .nomedia in the directory seems to stop files from disappearing, but why are they disappearing in the 1st place?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you write a text file .nomedia with the txt in the end or without? And do place it in the root of the SD?
Well it seems that this is something that must be fixed quickly by Acer or someone...
Just name a file. No media and place it in directories that you don't want to loose.... or you can do apps like no media manager in the market
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Have this same problem. Added the nomedia file but still losing data off the card after reboot. Funny thing is I have afile on the card that survives reboot, and I think it was there before the last update.
Hope this gets fixed with 3.1
peejayw said:
Have this same problem. Added the nomedia file but still losing data off the card after reboot. Funny thing is I have afile on the card that survives reboot, and I think it was there before the last update.
Hope this gets fixed with 3.1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That really sucks, that's exactly the same problem the system lets 'some' file be there while other gets erased.
May I ask the size of your MicroSD and brand?
All the best.
Ok guys I think i've fixed the problem!
I have a faint memory of my 16 GB having the same problem before i bricked it and fixed it.
But at the time I was so preoccupied with unbricking it that i didnt think of of any bugs before that.
So, what I just did about 30 min ago is the following, I reflashed the tablet with the same software that I used previously found on this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1101859
And voila! I transfer stuff and restart and they are still there!
And another good thing is that all my stuff is still there, programs and emails.
Hope this helps anybody with this irritating problem.
We shouldnt have to do this everytime we change our External Memory card to a new or another. Hopefully the 3.1 update will fix this.
Dont forget to thank me!
Cheers!
Check that, problem is back.... fcuking hell... irritating...
Missing files?
Hi all.
Please post which version of the system build you are using if you are having this problem.
My Iconia is on 1.141.07 pushed by Acer last month. I have a Sandisk 16 gig and a Transend 32 gig external SD cards, and have had none of these problems, and I switch them back and forth quite often.
Also, I did a full format to Fat32 on the 16 gig, but didn't do anything to the 32 gig. In order to present this problem to Acer/Google we need as much specific data as possible to help them narrow down the culprit.
How many other people are having this problem?
kwparker80 said:
Hi all.
Please post which version of the system build you are using if you are having this problem.
My Iconia is on 1.141.07 pushed by Acer last month. I have a Sandisk 16 gig and a Transend 32 gig external SD cards, and have had none of these problems, and I switch them back and forth quite often.
Also, I did a full format to Fat32 on the 16 gig, but didn't do anything to the 32 gig. In order to present this problem to Acer/Google we need as much specific data as possible to help them narrow down the culprit.
How many other people are having this problem?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the same build as you 1.141.07
I've used Kingston 16 GB Class 4 and am now having trouble with my Kingston 32 GB Class 4
Hope we can get some help quick.
Cheers.
Same experience with a harddisk connected to the Acer. Some files disappeared and i'm sure not deleted them. Keep an eye on it by regulary syncing with a backup-drive. Is there a way to 'save remove' usb data devices like in windows. ?
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
This problem really sux ass... There must be SOMETHING that can be done to fix... I mean we are not talking about porting another UI for Gods sake...
Safely remove USB drive
urbie47 said:
Same experience with a harddisk connected to the Acer. Some files disappeared and i'm sure not deleted them. Keep an eye on it by regulary syncing with a backup-drive. Is there a way to 'save remove' usb data devices like in windows. ?
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The only SURE way to safely remove a USB Drive from the Iconia is to power Down the tablet first.
Hey, you asked. Welcome to boot-up h-e-doublehockysticks.
Quick question..
Are the people having this problem using encription on your Tabs? I have read that strange things occur when encription is turned on.
If so, maybe turn it off and see what happens....
Just a thought.
Added: A fix for encription problems is supposed to be in the 3.1 update, by the way.
Im sorry for the nooby question, but what is encription?
I have a wintec filemate 16gb. While I haven't noticed this exact scenario, I have had files get currupted and later disappeared.
I transfered a bunch of pics and videos from a camera connected via USB to my micro sdcard. Later, I noticed that only 3 of the pics were viewable.. All the rest were there but gallery nor Astro would display them. I can't tell you if it was after a reboot or not that caused them to be currupted. But, they stayed there for weeks (countless reboots). Also, I never pulled the card out of the tablet.
Then one day, I noticed all the pictures (except those 3 good ones) were missing. Still had not ever removed the card.
I've connected several usb drives to the tablet, and never noticed files missing from them.
Not sure if this helps anyone, just wanted to add it to the knowledge base.
Encryption basically 'scrambles' the content on your storage device so it can't be read without authorization (password). It is commonly used for secure data transmission online, but you can go into Honeycomb settings and turn it on for you tablet.
NOT recommended until version 3.1 is released because of a few bugs.

SD card issues

My Yoga Book always says that my SD card is missing and I need to reinstall it. I install it as part of the internal storage, this might be the issue. I have gone through three different brands, Samsung microsd card does not work at all for me. Simply will not read, says it is incompatible. The other two work for about a couple hours but then I will reboot and sudenly it will not read and say it is not inserted, when it is. So frustrating. Also when the microsd card is unreadable, I have the second issue of the Book not coming back on after it sleeps or when the screen times out. To get the screen to come back on I have to take out the microsd card and the screen will come right on, but than says " the is no sd card, please insert." Any one else having this issue? I really want to like this little machine but it seems REALLY underbaked.
I have an idea of what is happening with my cards. I have a very good Samsung microsd but the machine first said "This card is too slow" !!! I set up the microsd card as "internal" storage not media storage. Well, the Book formats the card, uses it but on reboot it looses the card and says the card is either "not in" or, the card is "not compatible". So I try to reformat but the Book will not format it and neither will my PC or any other device. I keep getting that the micro sd card is now "write protected" or "cannot format raw data", so now I have two expensive micro sd cards that are completely useless and I am very very upset. I have one other card I can try to use in the Book and format it as "media" instead of "internal" but Im afraid it might raw format it too and Im stuck. AAARRGGHH. Any ideas on how to re-format these micro sd cards?
Hi! Any update regarding the issue? Would be really glad to know if you have resolved it as I am currently experiencing something similar with my Yoga Book (Windows). I have a 128GB microsd and sometimes it suddenly stops recognising it. I've never had the too slow error though. My card was formatted using NTFS.
Wondering whether the card tray design is bad, and if the card gets displaced when moving around. I'll try another card, and will update this post later.
Android must be formatted to fat32, although the best way is to format it in a Android device like your phone if needed. Not sure about your other issues. Is there an update from Lenovo maybe. My card reader is just fine. #knockonwood
31stfreak said:
Hi! Any update regarding the issue? Would be really glad to know if you have resolved it as I am currently experiencing something similar with my Yoga Book (Windows). I have a 128GB microsd and sometimes it suddenly stops recognising it. I've never had the too slow error though. My card was formatted using NTFS.
Wondering whether the card tray design is bad, and if the card gets displaced when moving around. I'll try another card, and will update this post later.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sadly I ended up buying a new microsd card. My two cards that I started with are still un accessible and useless. I format it to Fat32 and inserted into the YogaBook and designated the card as media. It's been working great ever since. Still annoyed that I am out $100 worth of micro SD cards
Good luck to you. I have the Android version.
brie987 said:
Sadly I ended up buying a new microsd card. My two cards that I started with are still un accessible and useless. I format it to Fat32 and inserted into the YogaBook and designated the card as media. It's been working great ever since. Still annoyed that I am out $100 worth of micro SD cards
Good luck to you. I have the Android version.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi! (In my case) I think it was due to the "thickness" or dimensions of the microSD. I had one that was slightly thicker than the original card I was using for the Yoga Book. I swapped them, and haven't had any problem since then. Sorry to hear that you had to shell out another $100. That really sucks. Mine was sheer luck. (Thanks to the added "chunk.")
Hope this bit of info will be useful for other YB owners.
Unfortunately I can confirm that ;/
In my case I observed the same...
I have a model with windows. It's EXTREMELY slow! Generally, no just the SD card. Almost impossible to work on it. Lenovo sucks!
According to the SC slot I've tried many different SD cards and always the same... Time of copying 2GB file, calculated by windows, about 672 hours... Only...
This is my second computer from Lenovo, and the last one.
If you're migrating files, try doing small amounts and copy not cut and paste. Otherwise just take the card out and do it on a more robust pc.
dr_harnas said:
In my case I observed the same...
I have a model with windows. It's EXTREMELY slow! Generally, no just the SD card. Almost impossible to work on it. Lenovo sucks!
According to the SC slot I've tried many different SD cards and always the same... Time of copying 2GB file, calculated by windows, about 672 hours... Only...
This is my second computer from Lenovo, and the last one.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm using an SD card and it seems to be running fine. Are you using it for something that needs regular access to your SD card? Like, installing Windows or a program on it? Because that will make transferring to and from the SD card very slow, or at least a lot slower than what it would usually be. The technology in the Yoga Book's SD card slot is old, so it can't handle stressful situations.
Hi, Thanks for your answers,
My main HD has 64GB, its not a lot of, so I thought about changing location of My Documents and all my files on the SD card. But after setting of paths to SD the computer froze due to it couldn't read SD fast enough.
So, I decided to move my personal folders back and tried to move files manually.
But the situation is the same :/
Don't you think that transferring of files on the another computer to SD card has no sens??
It is needed for me to move files from YB to another computer, so while I can't do it than the SD slot and whole Yoga Book is totally useless for me.
Do you think, guys, that it is possible to install Android on it?? There is a possibility to boot from the external USB-CD or just USB, but I couldn't find the Android version for YB.
Maybe with Android it will work??
Did someone of you tried to do it??
Thanks
dr_harnas said:
Hi, Thanks for your answers,
My main HD has 64GB, its not a lot of, so I thought about changing location of My Documents and all my files on the SD card. But after setting of paths to SD the computer froze due to it couldn't read SD fast enough.
So, I decided to move my personal folders back and tried to move files manually.
But the situation is the same :/
Don't you think that transferring of files on the another computer to SD card has no sens??
It is needed for me to move files from YB to another computer, so while I can't do it than the SD slot and whole Yoga Book is totally useless for me.
Do you think, guys, that it is possible to install Android on it?? There is a possibility to boot from the external USB-CD or just USB, but I couldn't find the Android version for YB.
Maybe with Android it will work??
Did someone of you tried to do it??
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did delete Windows 10 and try install Android, however, I was not successful in getting it usable. So right now, Android is a no-go for those who have the Windows 10 version (although, you can install emulators that allow you to run Android apps). I usually try to minimise how many things I have on my Yoga Book - keeping apps to a minimum, and I've got my Downloads and Documents on my SD card and it's fine. Maybe your SD card is an old one?
Believe me, I've tried all possibilities, which came to my head
I bought three different SD cards (actually I have SanDisk Extreme microSDXC UHS-II, 128GB, formated in exFat) and nothing.
I tried also to run linux, and I noticed a small difference in relation to Win10, that in linux the copying process is pending all the time, while Win10 is breaking the process every time and ordering me remove the write protection.
Hi guys,
I found a solution!!!
I don't know why, but I created two 64GB partitions (almost, just 50% and 50%) on the card and formatted as a fat32 and.... Suddenly it works!
Thanks for your attention!
Has anyone tried the 200GB or 265GB micro SD cards yet? google search seems indicate that it might work but not able to get any concrete proof.
Sent from my Lenovo YB1-X90F using Tapatalk
Yes, I use a Samsung 256GB micro SD card fine in my YB. Insert it and format it using the YB and it'll format it as FAT32. Only problem with that is I need to convert/compress my larger than 4GB movie files to something smaller.
thanks to PPC_Ed's confirmation, I ordered a 200GB drive and was able to get it working on my Yoga Book Android.
512GB SD card
Grooby97 said:
Has anyone tried the 200GB or 265GB micro SD cards yet? google search seems indicate that it might work but not able to get any concrete proof.
Sent from my Lenovo YB1-X90F using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I bought a cheap 512GB sd card on eBay for less than $12 from China. I have stored tons of stuff on it. Downloaded a 1080p movie onto it using the adapter on my laptop and the lap top wanted to fix issues. It did, and everything still is fine. It actually might not be 512gb, but I have more than 200gb on it and it works fine - no speed issues at all. Android still reports 512gb total capacity (499 gb). I couldn't be happier with the $12 spent.

Debating whether or not to exchange 16GB for Pro

After using a 16GB Darcy for 10 days I'm now tempted to exchange it for a Pro. Basically, I could use the extra space. I was going to buy a USB 3, 500GB ssd for adopted storage which will put me at the cost of a Pro anyway. I tried adopted storage on Darcy with a 320GB HD and set it all up, but as soon as I opened ES file explorer and gave it the permission it asked for, I lost access to the disk and had to forget it then reformat it. My guess is I should have Denied that permission request because once ES cached it's files and wrote to the disk it must have invalidated it. I'll know that for next time but my point is that adopted storage on Android can be tricky. So I'm wondering, can you hear the SSHD in the Pro spin when things are quiet? That would be a con for me. And the biggest con is the lack of ir blaster on pro remote. I have volume on my TV working with this and how would I accomplish that with the Pro? I don't believe CEC can control volume on my TV. Just CEC power control is working for me. If someone with some experience with these models can chime in here it will help me make a decision. Thanks.
DJarkIV said:
After using a 16GB Darcy for 10 days I'm now tempted to exchange it for a Pro. Basically, I could use the extra space. I was going to buy a USB 3, 500GB ssd for adopted storage which will put me at the cost of a Pro anyway. I tried adopted storage on Darcy with a 320GB HD and set it all up, but as soon as I opened ES file explorer and gave it the permission it asked for, I lost access to the disk and had to forget it then reformat it. My guess is I should have Denied that permission request because once ES cached it's files and wrote to the disk it must have invalidated it. I'll know that for next time but my point is that adopted storage on Android can be tricky. So I'm wondering, can you hear the SSHD in the Pro spin when things are quiet? That would be a con for me. And the biggest con is the lack of ir blaster on pro remote. I have volume on my TV working with this and how would I accomplish that with the Pro? I don't believe CEC can control volume on my TV. Just CEC power control is working for me. If someone with some experience with these models can chime in here it will help me make a decision. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have had the shield pro for almost a year now, never heard the hard disk, control volume with the shield fine, if it cant then the settings is in your tv to use external volume source. I may also add been rooted since day one with zero problems that I didnt cause myself
jionny said:
I have had the shield pro for almost a year now, never heard the hard disk, control volume with the shield fine, if it cant then the settings is in your tv to use external volume source. I may also add been rooted since day one with zero problems that I didnt cause myself
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the info. I want to clarify that ES didn't ask for root permission regarding the adopted storage. It was simple storage permission request, "access storage, photos, etc." ES may have viewed it as external storage although it was setup as internal through Android. I'll have to experiment with that again to confirm that's what happened.
DJarkIV said:
Thanks for the info. I want to clarify that ES didn't ask for root permission regarding the adopted storage. It was simple storage permission request, "access storage, photos, etc." ES may have viewed it as external storage although it was setup as internal through Android. I'll have to experiment with that again to confirm that's what happened.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I use to use es when I first rooted but my personal opinion is it sucks, I now use Xplore
jionny said:
I use to use es when I first rooted but my personal opinion is it sucks, I now use Xplore
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I couldn't agree more. ES has practically became malware over the years. On my phone I use Amaze. I installed Amaze on the Shield but can't use it without a mouse. I just downloaded Xplore as you recommend and will give it a try. Speaking of mouse, I'm looking to purchase a Bluetooth RII i8 mouse/keyboard/ remote. Is Bluetooth the way to go over Wifi-Direct on newer Shields?
DJarkIV said:
I couldn't agree more. ES has practically became malware over the years. On my phone I use Amaze. I installed Amaze on the Shield but can't use it without a mouse. I just downloaded Xplore as you recommend and will give it a try. Speaking of mouse, I'm looking to purchase a Bluetooth RII i8 mouse/keyboard/ remote. Is Bluetooth the way to go over Wifi-Direct on newer Shields?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My personal experience with the RII i8 with the shield is doesnt work very well, maybe just my experience. I happened upon a logitech K400 plus keyboard/mouse and it works flawless, only disapointment is I rather have something smaller like the i8
DJarkIV said:
Thanks for the info. I want to clarify that ES didn't ask for root permission regarding the adopted storage. It was simple storage permission request, "access storage, photos, etc." ES may have viewed it as external storage although it was setup as internal through Android. I'll have to experiment with that again to confirm that's what happened.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my guess is that is what happened, personally I believe es explorer is garbage at one time the best but not anymore, I use Xplore
I've a 2017 16gb model with a 250GB Samsung EVO SSD in a USB 3 enclosure. I filled it with 50+ games (more than 10 of LightSpeed Studios) and emulators, the speed is awesome and the problems non existant. The free space is aroud 100 GB.
For file management I use Solid Explorer. It's not remote friendly, but you can use it very well with the joystick.
cyberdionisio said:
I've a 2017 16gb model with a 250GB Samsung EVO SSD in a USB 3 enclosure. I filled it with 50+ games (more than 10 of LightSpeed Studios) and emulators, the speed is awesome and the problems non existant. The free space is aroud 100 GB.
For file management I use Solid Explorer. It's not remote friendly, but you can use it very well with the joystick.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I ended up keeping the 16GB darcy and added a 500GB Samsung T5 SSD as adopted stage. Seems like a good setup so I'm happy. I also have a new USB 3 hub on the inner port. Now I just have to figure out how to bypass the convertible mode on the outer port so I can have adb on without losing the ability to hook up media/storage devices to that port. I may have found a way but it requires a factory reset after the build.prop string is added. I'll get around to trying it out soon.
Sorry to barge in on this convo - but I have a similarish qu. I've just bought the 16Gb today (not shipped yet) and will be either using a 256 flash drive, or my 1TB WD USB 3 HDD.
The thing that's putting me off is the fact that when you add the HDD/SD to the Shield, it can't be read on a PC afterwards. So how on earth would I transfer anything to it once it's been formatted by the Shield?
jonboyuk said:
Sorry to barge in on this convo - but I have a similarish qu. I've just bought the 16Gb today (not shipped yet) and will be either using a 256 flash drive, or my 1TB WD USB 3 HDD.
The thing that's putting me off is the fact that when you add the HDD/SD to the Shield, it can't be read on a PC afterwards. So how on earth would I transfer anything to it once it's been formatted by the Shield?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're not barging in, that's what xda is for. So I'm not sure what your goal is but if you want to add to the Android internal storage then you will keep that Drive of your choice plugged into the Shield and consider it integrated. To transfer files back and forth you could use another drive of your choice which would just be a transfer drive. That Drive is not formatted by the Shield but it's readable and you can manage it with a file manager. My preferred method would be just using a usb 3 cable (usb a to usb a) Shield to computer directly. It's basically the same way you would hook up your phone to the computer to transfer files. Another way which is supported by most file managers would be wireless transfer. You have a lot of options. I recently just added a Samsung SSD as adoptable storage which is now considered part of the internal storage. It's working well.
DJarkIV said:
You're not barging in, that's what xda is for. So I'm not sure what your goal is but if you want to add to the Android internal storage then you will keep that Drive of your choice plugged into the Shield and consider it integrated. To transfer files back and forth you could use another drive of your choice which would just be a transfer drive. That Drive is not formatted by the Shield but it's readable and you can manage it with a file manager. My preferred method would be just using a usb 3 cable (usb a to usb a) Shield to computer directly. It's basically the same way you would hook up your phone to the computer to transfer files. Another way which is supported by most file managers would be wireless transfer. You have a lot of options. I recently just added a Samsung SSD as adoptable storage which is now considered part of the internal storage. It's working well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Haha I know, I'm just being courteous
That makes perfect sense though. In which case I might use the 1TB hard drive for removable storage (movies etc) and then get a 128Gb flash drive to replace the integrated 16Gb (ie adoptable).
The other thing is, I didn't buy the Shield controller. I do have a spare Xbox One & PS4 pad. Do they work equally as well - bearing in mind that I'll be using it for PC streaming, emulation and Android gaming?
Cheers!
That makes perfect sense though. In which case I might use the 1TB hard drive for removable storage (movies etc) and then get a 128Gb flash drive to replace the integrated 16Gb (ie adoptable).
Just to clarify, it won't replace the 16GB internal storage but add to it. The Android System will still remain on the 16GB internal but the drive you add as adopted will contain the Data portion after you set it up and have the Shield "move Data" to it. It's not a perfect system and some apps will still prefer to install to the 16GB. But if you enable developer options and check "force apps to external regardless of manifest" you will have the ability to move the stubborn apps to your adopted storage drive.
The other thing is, I didn't buy the Shield controller. I do have a spare Xbox One & PS4 pad. Do they work equally as well - bearing in mind that I'll be using it for PC streaming, emulation and Android gaming?
As far as the controller, I'm not 100% sure. If those controllers use Bluetooth to pair they should work. You can select settings-add accessory and attempt to pair them. If you look around you will find that answer.
If you change the external storage as a GPT drive instead of MBR. the nVidia Shield can use it for added internal storage. But it won't do it without this change which you can do on a Windows PC with Disk Management.You don't need a PRO.
orbinick said:
If you change the external storage as a GPT drive instead of MBR. the nVidia Shield can use it for added internal storage. But it won't do it without this change which you can do on a Windows PC with Disk Management.You don't need a PRO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, we're way of topic at this point. I decided a while ago I'm not exchanging for the Pro. Instead I added a Samsung T5 500GB. Your post is very interesting, can you explain further? I'm a Mac user so I did originally format my disk with the GUID partition scheme (GPT) before setting it up as adoptable storage. But from my experience, you can pretty much add just about any disk I ever tried as adoptable storage regardless of the partition scheme. The Shield ends up formatting it beforehand although I'm not sure if it changes the partition scheme for you. What more can you do with GUID that you can't do with MPT?

Categories

Resources