Is there a power bank that will charge at 25w? - Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ Accessories

Wondering if there is a power bank that will charge at 25w same as bundled charger. Thanks guys.

Not yet. I assume samsung will make one someday.

It doesn't have to be Samsung.

you been WARNED. i bought a aftermarket 45w home charger and 45w powerbank.
the stock samsung 25w charger shows it charges faster.
unless the charger listed as pps support, otherwise save your money.

Yeah I bought an Naztech 45 Watt Pd charger for my switch. I tried it on my N1O+ with the samsung OEM cable and it reported approximately 15 mins longer charge time than the samsung 25 watt brick.

netnerd said:
you been WARNED. i bought a aftermarket 45w home charger and 45w powerbank.
the stock samsung 25w charger shows it charges faster.
unless the charger listed as pps support, otherwise save your money.
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he is only seeking 25w not 45, there should be options

noobandroid said:
he is only seeking 25w not 45, there should be options
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25w charger uses the same custom PPS configurations as well.
Don't think there are any 3rd party chargers on the market that can do either 25 or 45w for the samsung just yet.
But samsung phones are popular, and this isn't proprietary tech. I bet china will be churning out compatible ones within a few months.

Havent found one yet but am also interested. I don't need the life shortening 45 watt charging to my battery.

Related

Can I charge NExus 7 with a 5V 1A charger ?

Bought my Nexus in the US this summer, really enjoy this little beast.
I have a question regarding charging. The provided charger is a 5V- 2A charger but a US one. I have at home a HTC one X charger which delivers 5V - 1A. Can I use this charger ? What is the difference between 1A & 2A ?
Thx, Yves
yves.alexis said:
Bought my Nexus in the US this summer, really enjoy this little beast.
I have a question regarding charging. The provided charger is a 5V- 2A charger but a US one. I have at home a HTC one X charger which delivers 5V - 1A. Can I use this charger ? What is the difference between 1A & 2A ?
Thx, Yves
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I don't see how less amps would hurt it. It may not register a charge, or charge very slowly. I would wait for another opinion.
2A will charge faster than the 1A charger. That's the only difference.
thedauntlessone said:
2A will charge faster than the 1A charger. That's the only difference.
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OK, thank you
On the flip side, can I use my N7 charger to charge my mobile (SG2)?
My SG2 charger is set for 0.7A, while the N7 charger is set at 2A.
Mine charges with the USB cable i use to transfer files, which is about 500mA. Works but slow.
checking around the net, that's what it say.
the USB port have a maximum of 500mA i believe. And i did noticed it tend to charge more slowly. While the provided Asus charger with USB port on it, it have 2000mA (or 2A). So i guess the Nexus 7 is made to be able to support up to 2000mA, while it will charge more slowly when connected to a computer's USB port.
I took out my PSP and its charger recently, and this charger is also 5V, 2000mA, except it's a round tip made to fit the PSP charging port.
I do have another 2000mA charger, it also have a round tip, luckily it fit on my Ainol Elf II tablet. I got this charger/power supply when i bought my HDMI switcher, it work without it, so it was sitting there for all this time, unused.
i'm gonna try charging it with the provided Asus charger now.
browngeek said:
On the flip side, can I use my N7 charger to charge my mobile (SG2)?
My SG2 charger is set for 0.7A, while the N7 charger is set at 2A.
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Yes. Your phone will not charge at the same rate as the N7, however.
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Turbo?

In a review site someone claiming confidently that the G4P does support turbo charging despite no mention of this in specs. Does anyone have the G4P and a turbo charger can do a test?
nigelhealy said:
...despite no mention of this in specs....
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Well, I don't think Motorola really advertised "Turbo" charging for G4 Play.
They advertised something else. Here's what it says on their site:
Moto G Play works with the 10W rapid charger (charger in-box), which gives you 5 hours of battery life in just 15 minutes of charging.
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Source: http://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-play#battery
carefully said:
Well, I don't think Motorola really advertised "Turbo" charging for G4 Play.
They advertised something else. Here's what it says on their site:
Source: http://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-play#battery
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So the charger supplied says 5V and 0.5A which doesn't look like a fast charger.
nigelhealy said:
So the charger supplied says 5V and 0.5A which doesn't look like a fast charger.
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My supplied charger clearly says OUTPUT: 5.2V===2.0A
Exhibit A is attached
It does not support quickcharger, that works with 9v and 12v i already tried, but the supplied charger charges at 2.0 A. which is fast.
carefully said:
My supplied charger clearly says OUTPUT: 5.2V===2.0A
Exhibit A is attached
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I am in the USA and bought the USA version XT1607.
The charger looks different it says 5V 0.5A.
nigelhealy said:
I am in the USA and bought the USA version XT1607.
The charger looks different it says 5V 0.5A.
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Same here, both the Amazon and the non-Amazon version I bought had the 550mAh chargers.
hooverbw said:
Same here, both the Amazon and the non-Amazon version I bought had the 550mAh chargers.
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The fact they package with a low spec charger in a $150 box is not a concern. I own dual and quad chargers I carry for phone tablet BT etc.
The question is a specific charger able to charge faster? I looked at the one supplied and it seemed to imply a 5V input then as much Amp as phone can take, which is usually about 1-1.5A til 85%.
Turbo, is I think like QC, it increases the voltage at low battery charge, such a charger would show say 12V or 9V output.
Is there any good charging app to watch what the phone is doing? I have iSmart, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 devices I can test on.
hooverbw said:
Is there any good charging app to watch what the phone is doing? I have iSmart, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 devices I can test on.
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The way I find best is to not use the phone and use a stopwatch and measure at 15m intervals.
It does take days to be ready with a low charge condition.
App I have used is Ampere but I find it unreliable as the act of using the phone means heat throttling down the charging speed, if you don't use the phone then Ampere sleeps and doesn't monitor.
From what I understand, it does support it but you have to buy an additional charger.
It definitely does some kind of fast charging because my Anker Powercore+ 10,050mAh power block charges it incredibly fast. I don't know what other charging methods the Anker does beyond qc2.0 since I have had the Anker less than 12 hours.
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If this behaves like osprey (which I expect - I haven't yet examined the kernel), the hardware doesn't support the Qualcomm high voltage quick charging, but it does support regular charging up to 800 mA. The weak 550 mA charger bundled with the North American variants will not make the most of it, but a 1A charger or better should get full charging performance.
squid2 said:
...but it does support regular charging up to 800 mA...
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So does this mean the 2.0 A bundled chargers are bottlenecked, like they support 2.0 A and the phone supports only till 800 mA...am I thinking correct?
My XT1607 US unlocked retail version came with a 5V 550mA labeled charge plug. I used a cable and power plug from another device that rated at 5.2V and 1.35A and it drew about 1.4A from it. Then I dug out another USB adapter rated 5.3V, 2A . It consumed 1.78A and it was 80% charged at the time. That would make for some much faster charging than the original plug. Wouldn't matter much if you just plug it in overnight to charge.
Anyone confirm if the it supports QC 2.0? Only thing wrong e phone is slow charge from supplied.
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I have used the turbo charger supplied with Moto G3 Turbo and it charges much faster than the one supplied in box. So yes it supports turbocharging but you need to get the charger elsewhere.
MaanasDwivedi said:
I have used the turbo charger supplied with Moto G3 Turbo and it charges much faster than the one supplied in box. So yes it supports turbocharging but you need to get the charger elsewhere.
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Logic fail. The supplied charge is feeble like 0.5A so anything like 1A or 2A is better.
That does NOT mean turbo is supported.
When I plug my G4 Play into my Anker 4 port power supply and then into a kilowatt meter, it draws 10 watts. If we work it backwards, that's 5v and 2 amps (however, need to account for line loss, transformer loss and other losses). A watt is a watt, doesn't matter what the voltage or amperage is, as W = V x A.
This phone charges much quicker than my old Moto G second gen, which would take close to 2 hours to fully recharge. I have had this phone recharge in as little as an hour from around 30%. It's a shame that the SD 410 chip supports QC 2.0 but Motorola didn't enable it. It seems to have QC 1.0 (which is the 10 watt, 5v @ 2amp rating).
brian10161 said:
When I plug my G4 Play into my Anker 4 port power supply and then into a kilowatt meter, it draws 10 watts. If we work it backwards, that's 5v and 2 amps (however, need to account for line loss, transformer loss and other losses). A watt is a watt, doesn't matter what the voltage or amperage is, as W = V x A.
This phone charges much quicker than my old Moto G second gen, which would take close to 2 hours to fully recharge. I have had this phone recharge in as little as an hour from around 30%. It's a shame that the SD 410 chip supports QC 2.0 but Motorola didn't enable it. It seems to have QC 1.0 (which is the 10 watt, 5v @ 2amp rating).
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Regular USB is 2A 5V 10W.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
Standard USB 2.0 is 500mA
USB 3.0 is 900mA
There is a new subset standard called USB power delivery, it's used for newer devices.
Quick charge 1.0 was 2 amp at 5v.
There's a little more info here. https://www.easyacc.com/media-center/quick-charge-3-0-vs-2-0-vs-1-0/
These phones charging at 2 amps is technically quick charge, whether it's the 1.0 revision or not is really down to licensing and stuff. They don't charge at 2.0 speeds unfortunately. Even though the chipset supports it.

Fast charging power banks?

Hey there, i'm, trying to find any power banks compatible with samsung's adaptive fast charging to use with my S9+. Are there any available? If so, are they worth it?
Thanks
I bought this directly from Samsung for $16 and it does fast charge on my S9+ but it is now out of stock: https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...-10ah-with-usb-c-cable-silver-eb-p1100csegus/
bads3ctor said:
I bought this directly from Samsung for $16 and it does fast charge on my S9+ but it is now out of stock: https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...-10ah-with-usb-c-cable-silver-eb-p1100csegus/
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Shame, that's exactly what I needed. Can't find it anywhere sadly.
Any power bank that offer either Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 or USB Power Delivery through USB Type C should work. The S9/S9+ will draw 1.67A @ 9V over QC and 3A @ 5V over USB-PD via Type C and therefore fast charge at 15W (which is its limit).
These should work, though I've not tried these myself.
Anker PowerCore Speed 20000mAh offers USB-PD but not QC, though the standard USB port offers 2A @ 5V, so while not fast charging it charges at 10W from the standard port (15W from the USB-PD port for the S9+).
Charmast 10400mAh Powr Bank offers both QC3 and USB-PD.
I have an Anker power bank (non-PD), and an Aukey wall charger so can recommend those brands in general terms from my personal experience.
Xiaomi 20,000 power bank supports fast charging as well on S9 plus.
This is available now: https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/m...-10ah-with-usb-c-cable-silver-eb-p1100csegus/
aouni_tahech said:
Xiaomi 20,000 power bank supports fast charging as well on S9 plus.
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I have the same powerbank and it works like a charm.
One note: you can charge the phone using quickcharge from the powerbank but you can also use the phone's charger to quickcharge the powerbank
Incarniac said:
Any power bank that offer either Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 or USB Power Delivery through USB Type C should work. The S9/S9+ will draw 1.67A @ 9V over QC and 3A @ 5V over USB-PD via Type C and therefore fast charge at 15W (which is its limit).
These should work, though I've not tried these myself.
Anker PowerCore Speed 20000mAh offers USB-PD but not QC, though the standard USB port offers 2A @ 5V, so while not fast charging it charges at 10W from the standard port (15W from the USB-PD port for the S9+).
Charmast 10400mAh Powr Bank offers both QC3 and USB-PD.
I have an Anker power bank (non-PD), and an Aukey wall charger so can recommend those brands in general terms from my personal experience.
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This
Can't get Fast Charge to work with Power Banks
I've bought 2 different QC power banks:
AIDEAZ Power Bank 20000mAh Portable Charger
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07GJHNRK9/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_8697Cb90CYK1E
iWALK Wireless Portable Charger 10000mah Power Bank
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07FMVRD6K/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_E897CbKW2P4PD
I also own
Anker Powercore Speed 10000 QC, Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 Portable Charger
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01JIYWUBA/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_Q997Cb1HQ367J
NONE of them fast charge my S9+ even though when I use the wall charger it fast charges. I even have a USB power meter to confirm that these power banks are only inputting 5V 1A.
SO FRUSTRATING!
Al3xxxinho said:
I have the same powerbank and it works like a charm.
One note: you can charge the phone using quickcharge from the powerbank but you can also use the phone's charger to quickcharge the powerbank
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And you can simultaneously charge your phone from the powerbank AND charge the powerbank from the phone's charger
pirellip said:
I've bought 2 different QC power banks:
AIDEAZ Power Bank 20000mAh Portable Charger
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07GJHNRK9/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_8697Cb90CYK1E
iWALK Wireless Portable Charger 10000mah Power Bank
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07FMVRD6K/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_E897CbKW2P4PD
I also own
Anker Powercore Speed 10000 QC, Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 Portable Charger
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01JIYWUBA/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_Q997Cb1HQ367J
NONE of them fast charge my S9+ even though when I use the wall charger it fast charges. I even have a USB power meter to confirm that these power banks are only inputting 5V 1A.
SO FRUSTRATING!
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Hey that is very weird especially since you say that your dev iui ce fast charges when it is plugged into a wall adapter. I have 2 powerbanks, one Mi Powerbank 2i 10000 mAh and the other is a Samsung Fast Wireless Charger 10000 mAh and both are capable of charging my S9+ at 15W

45 watt car charger

Anyone have a good suggestion for a full 45 watt car charger? In the car is about the only time I think I need the super fast charging. That seems to be the time I most often freaking out wishing my phone would charge faster when I'm pulling into somewhere. I've seen a few on eBay, but I'm not sure if they are legitimately 45 watts and also if they will be compatible with the Note 10 plus. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Whay are the specs for one? I got this one but unsure if it will support thensuper fast charging.
I guess ill find out in a few weeks
Link to charger
USB Wall Charger [GaN Tech], RAVPower 45W PD USB-C Charger Type-C Power Delivery Adapter, Ultra-Compact Compatible with MacBook, Dell Xps 15 13, iPad Pro 2018, iPhone Xs XR X and More https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H9WMW6N/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_1TluDbHD1MP31
I'm looking for a car one.
Subscribed, wanting to know this to. Even for a 25w car charger at minimum
Waiting for someone to reply
just get a 45w charging power bank. but those are huge, big like the note10+
netnerd said:
just get a 45w charging power bank. but those are huge, big like the note10+
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I don't think its a good idea to leave those permanently in a hot car in summer.
Just saw you ask about car charger.
Ive seen some on amazon but havent used any
I'm going with this for a car charger and this for a wall charger.
Maybe, but prolly won't work with Samsung
Nekteck USB C Car Charger with 45W PD Power Delivery and 12W USB-A Port for Ipad pro, MacBook Pro/Air 2018, iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8, Galaxy S10/S9/S8, 3.3ft USB-C Cable Included https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075WQQG7C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_k91uDbF71BWP4
Whatever you get it will need to support Programmable Power Supply (PPS)
https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/08/13/galaxy-note10-plus-45w-charging/
I am looking for one of these too...
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I'm going with this for a car charger:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07K65PG4...olid=13SRULXKEK9P1&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
and went with the one from Samsung for the wall
enginuity2 said:
I'm going with this for a car charger and this for a wall charger.
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Cozzeck said:
Maybe, but prolly won't work with Samsung
Nekteck USB C Car Charger with 45W PD Power Delivery and 12W USB-A Port for Ipad pro, MacBook Pro/Air 2018, iPhone Xs/Max/XR/X/8, Galaxy S10/S9/S8, 3.3ft USB-C Cable Included https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075WQQG7C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_k91uDbF71BWP4
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These prolly won't charge the Note 10+ at 45w. Note 10+ requires usb-pd 3.0 chargers with PPS.
Pathfinders said:
These prolly won't charge the Note 10+ at 45w. Note 10+ requires usb-pd 3.0 chargers with PPS.
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I'll talk to Samsung first...
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA; Motorola StarTac
I think I could a car charger which has the required output for a 45w super fast charging. What do you guys think?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07115BLPP
i think the charger has to also have the vooc and huawei handshake chip inside it as well as PD.
otherwise most cheapo chargers will use the old usb-PD chips that outputs 12v/2A and not 10v/4.5A. most cheap PD 20v chargers wont even enable 20v charge mode unless used in a truck 24v system, because the cheap chips are not able to boost /convert the 14v of the car battery to 20v at high amps.
heres a $4 chip with multiple charge tech handshakes,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32997568785.html
hopefully someone with more elecro know how can help find a cheap chip that charges at samy 45w.
this cheapo $14 one states pps - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html
sonhy said:
i think the charger has to also have the vooc and huawei handshake chip inside it as well as PD.
otherwise most cheapo chargers will use the old usb-PD chips that outputs 12v/2A and not 10v/4.5A. most cheap PD 20v chargers wont even enable 20v charge mode unless used in a truck 24v system, because the cheap chips are not able to boost /convert the 14v of the car battery to 20v at high amps.
heres a $4 chip with multiple charge tech handshakes,
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32997568785.html
hopefully someone with more elecro know how can help find a cheap chip that charges at samy 45w.
this cheapo $14 one states pps - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33020251902.html
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So then it might be that Samsung is only selling the 45W charger separately because it has a Huawei chip inside it, and Samsung doesn't want to be shown as including anything Huawei-related in anything sold with the phone due to the restrictions in the US against Huawei? And how do you know the 45W charger has a Huawei chip?
- R. Kruse Ludington
Galaxy Note 8<-5<-3<-S3<-Nexus; Droid X; HTC HD2<-Touch Pro 2<-Tilt<-8525; O2 XDA II<-XDA; Motorola StarTac
Found one
This 45w car charger says it's PD 3.0 + PPS. I've received mine from the official ebay UK Baseus store for £10.
baseusofficial.co.uk/shop/baseus-magic-series-pps-digital-display-type-c-pdqc-intelligent-45w-car-charger
I'll test it when my Note10+ comes hopefully on Friday 23rd.
KruseLudsMobile said:
So then it might be that Samsung is only selling the 45W charger separately because it...
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I don't know, im just seeing 10v @4.5A and im thinking it's like VOOC and other charge profile where the current is higher than 2Amps.
Im hoping its flexible and allows 12v @4A and such. either way im sure the handshake chip will be. ade cheap and cheapo $5 chargers will start to show up.
for $1000+ Hopefully the note10+ constantly checks the input voltage and disconnects the circuit internally if the source power goes bad.
I have two OnePlus chargers (one from my 6t and one from the 7 pro) and I'm going to try those and see if they work. If so, then I'm going to use my car charger that I used for my 7 pro.

Wire That Comes w/ the 45w Charger

Where can I buy a genuine Samsung wire that comes with the 45w charger?
Well, you can get the cable exactly where you got the charger! That is, providing you bought the charger…
winol said:
Well, you can get the cable exactly where you got the charger! That is, providing you bought the charger…
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This is Not an answer for any this , please dont post spam replies , either you know or yo don't, there are allot of stores that sell the charger but don't sell the cable ,this is normal
Samsung EP-DN975 is the cable name, maybe this will help you.
you can find it at Amazon.com
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-EP-DN975-USB-cable/dp/B07V7GDKBJ
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This is Not an answer for any this , please dont post spam replies , either you know or yo don't, there are allot of stores that sell the charger but don't sell the cable ,this is normal
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Wrong, original chargers come with a cable
winol said:
Wrong, original chargers come with a cable
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I'm sure he meant that you cannot buy the cable separately. Of course, chargers come with cables.
It's the same one that comes with the 25 watt brick with phone.
It must be a fast charge cable or it won't fast charge.
The phone senses which cable type is used and adjust the charge rate accordingly.
You need a USB-C to USB-C cable capable of transmitting a current of 5A.
Search on Amazon "USB-C cable 5A", and you'll find many alternatives
I watch a video on youtube. 25w vs 45w chargers on 2 identical Samsung Note 10+.
45w was faster than 25w with 10 minutes. ONLY 10 minutes!
null0seven said:
I watch a video on youtube. 25w vs 45w chargers on 2 identical Samsung Note 10+.
45w was faster than 25w with 10 minutes. ONLY 10 minutes!
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Yes, no surprise there, it was stated since the start, that the advantage of the 45w vs the 25w was not really in making the the time required to full charge a batt, the advantage is centered in a region, that is, the 45 w power is only used until certain level is reached, past that, it returns to a lower level, this indeed was explained by samsung itself, and by serious reviews an analisys
null0seven said:
I watch a video on youtube. 25w vs 45w chargers on 2 identical Samsung Note 10+.
45w was faster than 25w with 10 minutes. ONLY 10 minutes!
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For partial charges there may be more of a difference in the power curve of the charge. The 25 w brick yields about 2% @ minute in optimum conditions.
The temp of the battery can vary charge times as well.
Ideal charge temp is probably above 80F* but below 95F.
Battery health also effects charge rate.
The 25 w brick charges very fast...
*below 80F can promote Li plating which permanently degrades the cell
Try one plus type C to type C cable which is capable of charging upto 65 watts and supports Samsung superfast charging 2.0 with Samsung 45 watt charger. It's available in 150/100 cm length which is quite longer than short oem cable that came with charger.

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