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Hi all. Just got my P3600 today, very nice indeed.
One complaint (so far!); There's no headphone socket, only a set of pretty crummy headphone with a mini-usb connector. Is it possible to get a mini-usb adaptor so that I can plug in some decent headphones? 3.5mm jack would be best, but 2.5 would do as well.
Thanks for any help!
Lee.
Your best bet at the moment is to cut the original audio cable and put a jack on it. Some adaptors are available, but the ones I´ve tested had a lousy fit. Stupid HTC forgot to offer an adaptor, and include it in the package. We´re complaining for many months now...started with the Tytn.
leecotton said:
Hi all. Just got my P3600 today, very nice indeed.
One complaint (so far!); There's no headphone socket, only a set of pretty crummy headphone with a mini-usb connector. Is it possible to get a mini-usb adaptor so that I can plug in some decent headphones? 3.5mm jack would be best, but 2.5 would do as well.
Thanks for any help!
Lee.
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Expansys (a shop I always try to avoid) sells one for 9.95 pounds
http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=142091&asource=HTC _P3600
(available from mid January though)
PS: Am I the only one thinking that the size of the earbuds in the original headset is for elephant's ears?
Lucas0511 said:
Your best bet at the moment is to cut the original audio cable and put a jack on it. Some adaptors are available, but the ones I´ve tested had a lousy fit. Stupid HTC forgot to offer an adaptor, and include it in the package. We´re complaining for many months now...started with the Tytn.
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You are so right. That is the first think I'll do when I get one of these "new and improved" mini USB audio plugs. I have custom headphones for my Jamin now. I bought a nice pair of Koss headpnones and soldered it to a SE P800 headset, which fits in the Jamin.
Expansys also offers a Y splitter so you can have charger on ones side and headphones on the other, both mini USB of course.
Thanks
Thanks for the info chaps. I think I'll try an adaptor from Expansys or somewhere before chopping up my headphone cable!
Lee.
Found a working adapter...
I bought this adapter from www.martinfields.com:
http://www.martinfields.co.uk/produ..._P800W&modeln=most HTC and compatible devices)
It works fine for playing audio with the P3600 and uses a 3.5mm socket, although obviously it doesn't have the phone answer button on it.
Cheap too, although it takes a while to ship from Hong Kong.
Lee.
I ordered one from martin fields as well and it works great.
I have ordered one from shop.brando.com.hk think it was $5 and free shipping in the christmas days
Expecting one from brando
leecotton said:
I bought this adapter from www.martinfields.com:
http://www.martinfields.co.uk/produ..._P800W&modeln=most HTC and compatible devices)
It works fine for playing audio with the P3600 and uses a 3.5mm socket, although obviously it doesn't have the phone answer button on it.
Cheap too, although it takes a while to ship from Hong Kong.
Lee.
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So, when you are listening to music, and a phone call comes in, can you use the microphone in the phone? Is it muted? In other words, do you have to unplug the headphones to answer a call?
Are there any adapters/gadgets so I can use my wired headset and charge my kaiser using the mini-usb plug at the same time.
I would like to watch my slingbox player using the headset, but I also watch to charge the unit at the same time. Is this possible?
Yeah, there's a Y-cable available. Mobileplanet/Expansys sells it, so does XDA Store. The AT&T 8525 came with the Y adapter, Tilt does not.
Mobileplanet's prices are pretty steep - Around twice that of XDA store even if you don't have an XDA Store member discount. XDA Store doesn't have a good headphone adapter though, just a "brick" one, not a right-angle-short-cable one.
Are there any vendors that carry both the Y-adapter and a "cable" style 3.5mm adapter?
The 8525 one is of poor design. The L-plug that the headphones have interfere with being able to plug in the power...it needs to be shoved in there.
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Checking around yesterday, found the 8525-style Y splitter available under $20, and the HTC 3-in-1 even better approach, with total shipped prices varying, that does mini-usb, 3.5mm audio, and that HTC ExUsb 11 pin mini (so you can hang this adapter off your wired stereo headset with mic and remote controls) and still have stereo on a 3.5mm jacked out to a line in, and charge with the other mini usb jack. Both available yesterday from the HTCStore.
Other than DLNA, is the epic going to get the vidout via 3.5 feature???
All the reviews I've found seems to gloss over this...
I personally think it's a huge feature
I saw a video on youtube of a Galaxy S doing it. IDK if the Epic 4g Will for sure, but I would assume it could still do this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTQBAx_BDfk
Something interesting I found in my digging is that the Galaxy S phones will only support Stereo sound over DLNA and if you want 5.1 from a movie you will have to use the 3.5 jack for audio. I have no clue how this works in practice, but its just something interesting I came across.
Well, the AT&T version definitely has it intact
engadget.com/photos/atandt-execs-get-a-better-captivate-unboxing-experience-than-you-do/#3179029
(3.5mm to RCA cables in pic)
possibly even BETTER!
Samsung Galaxy S Will Be Able to do MicroUSB to HDMI for Video Out
phandroid.com/2010/07/28/samsung-galaxy-s-will-be-able-to-do-microusb-to-hdmi-for-video-out/
mensaphone said:
possibly even BETTER!
Samsung Galaxy S Will Be Able to do MicroUSB to HDMI for Video Out
phandroid.com/2010/07/28/samsung-galaxy-s-will-be-able-to-do-microusb-to-hdmi-for-video-out/
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Nice but $50??? If its supported, hope MonoPrice comes out with a cheap alternative.
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Nice but $50??? If its supported, hope MonoPrice comes out with a cheap alternative.
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I saw this.
I'm excited that all of the Galaxy lineup can do HDMI out from microUSB, but I REALLY am not gonna spend $50 on a USB cable.
Wasn't the price similar for the Droid X cable? I don't think its samsung trying to gouge people, as much as the cables being kinda hard to find.
I think once more phones come out with HDMI-microUSB, then generic cheaper brands of cables will come out.
If not, i'll just have to live without HDMI out.
Strictly speaking, it's not a microUSB cable... it's a HDMI cable with proprietary connector that has the approximate physical form factor of a microUSB plug, but additional contacts for the HDMI signals.
I'm purely guessing, but I suspect the cable MIGHT be "semi-active"... using a single pin on the microUSB connector for each of the raw, unbalanced TMDSx and CLOCK signals, and turning them into a balanced pair with dedicated shield ground with parts embedded in the hood of the cable itself. I'm going to guess that when the phone is using the port in "hdmi" mode, they probably repurpose the USB D+ and D- pins for I2C to reduce the pincount further.
It's not really that exotic or mysterious. MicroUSB only uses one side of the connector slab, so there's room on the underside to put more contacts for other purposes. The only part that's really amazing is that they can get a reliable high-speed connection from a connector that's slightly loose, with etched copper contacts the width of a human hair.
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Strictly speaking, it's not a microUSB cable... it's a HDMI cable with proprietary connector that has the approximate physical form factor of a microUSB plug, but additional contacts for the HDMI signals.
I'm purely guessing, but I suspect the cable MIGHT be "semi-active"... using a single pin on the microUSB connector for each of the raw, unbalanced TMDSx and CLOCK signals, and turning them into a balanced pair with dedicated shield ground with parts embedded in the hood of the cable itself. I'm going to guess that when the phone is using the port in "hdmi" mode, they probably repurpose the USB D+ and D- pins for I2C to reduce the pincount further.
It's not really that exotic or mysterious. MicroUSB only uses one side of the connector slab, so there's room on the underside to put more contacts for other purposes. The only part that's really amazing is that they can get a reliable high-speed connection from a connector that's slightly loose, with etched copper contacts the width of a human hair.
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Found a site which has the MicroUSB to HDMI out cables for 13 bucks with free shipping!
MicroUSB to HDMI Cable
Looks like it was made for the Evo and Droid X but should work with the epic too!
bitbang3r said:
Strictly speaking, it's not a microUSB cable... it's a HDMI cable with proprietary connector that has the approximate physical form factor of a microUSB plug, but additional contacts for the HDMI signals.
I'm purely guessing, but I suspect the cable MIGHT be "semi-active"... using a single pin on the microUSB connector for each of the raw, unbalanced TMDSx and CLOCK signals, and turning them into a balanced pair with dedicated shield ground with parts embedded in the hood of the cable itself. I'm going to guess that when the phone is using the port in "hdmi" mode, they probably repurpose the USB D+ and D- pins for I2C to reduce the pincount further.
It's not really that exotic or mysterious. MicroUSB only uses one side of the connector slab, so there's room on the underside to put more contacts for other purposes. The only part that's really amazing is that they can get a reliable high-speed connection from a connector that's slightly loose, with etched copper contacts the width of a human hair.
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It's a standard MicroUSB port nothing proprietary at all. The cable's HDMI end also has a MicroUSB out connector on the side for charging while connected to HDMI.
PS: Here is the exact same Samsung cable for $3.60, currently out of stock but I was fortunate enough to get one before I went out of stock again.
http://www.myluxphone.com/samsung-ecc1hu0bbebstd-tv-out-cable-micro-usb-to-hdmi.html
NeonMonster said:
Found a site which has the MicroUSB to HDMI out cables for 13 bucks with free shipping!
MicroUSB to HDMI Cable
Looks like it was made for the Evo and Droid X but should work with the epic too!
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Huh? The Evo has a dedicated Micro-HDMI port and cannot do HDMI via MicroUSB. The original cable made by Samsung I linked above is almost 10 bucks cheaper.
What I think is smart is that the cable takes into consideration that you can't charge the phone with a straight up microUSB to HDMI cable. They added another microUSB port for the charger on the base, which is SOOOOO smart, cause, well, you know, video is just going to rape the battery life.
I've been eyeing the Le Max 2 X820 for a few months now and I think it's a great deal but the implementation of the 3.5mm headphone jack always makes me rethink. For anyone out there who owns this phone, I have two major questions that always cause me to rethink my purchase decision.
1. How snug is the audio adapter? Headphone jacks give a much more snug connection to the device than the USB-C jack in every phone that I have ever used. The fact that I'll be pulling out the USB audio adapter hundreds if not thousands of times in my ownership of the device really makes me worry that it'll become so loose with mechanical stress that it'll eventually just lose all grip and fall out with even the lightest of pulls.
2. I hear people make claims like "the audio quality is out of this world" or "this is the smartphone for audiophiles." Do those claims have any substance? I have a DAC at home for when I want a dedicated music listening experience and I find it hard to believe that a digital signal running through a low voltage power source could perform anywhere near the quality of a dedicated DAC. What exactly does CDLA do? Allow a lossless passthrough of your music to the USB digital signal? Does it serve as a DAC?
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
The USB adapter is very snug on mine - it is actually quite hard to pull it out even when you want to. Sound through the adapter with a good pair of headphones is decent. I have been playing lossless CD rips and they sound great, especially with the Dolby Atmos dsp. CDLA is only a thing if you buy the Leeco earbuds (I have just ordered a pair from Gearbest for about £10 in a flash sale). Basically it just sends the music digitally rather than converting to analogue on board. The earbuds have a 24-bit hifi audio decoder chip embedded in the usb plug.
kanagawaben said:
The USB adapter is very snug on mine - it is actually quite hard to pull it out even when you want to. Sound through the adapter with a good pair of headphones is decent. I have been playing lossless CD rips and they sound great, especially with the Dolby Atmos dsp. CDLA is only a thing if you buy the Leeco earbuds (I have just ordered a pair from Gearbest for about £10 in a flash sale). Basically it just sends the music digitally rather than converting to analogue on board. The earbuds have a 24-bit hifi audio decoder chip embedded in the usb plug.
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I see.
So the USB adapter doesn't do any processing and just serves as an analogue pass-through and the DSP is built right into the device. So I can expect pretty much the same audio quality as any other phone with a headphone jack unless I use the CDLA certified earbuds.
The standard 3.5mm jack isn't exactly a pricey component. Makes me wonder why it was removed in the first place. It's not like the device's selling point is its slimness.
Thanks for the info. :good:
Yes, as far as I know the adapter is just a pass through and doesn't contain an audio chip. The fact you can buy them for just $1 or $2 online would seem to confirm that.
enmasse said:
The standard 3.5mm jack isn't exactly a pricey component. Makes me wonder why it was removed in the first place.
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Hello. The socked for 3.5 mm jack does not seem to be, but is the component that takes pretty much place inside the phone. I have lately disassembled my previous phone and realized that.
regards Olek
kanagawaben said:
The USB adapter is very snug on mine - it is actually quite hard to pull it out even when you want to. Sound through the adapter with a good pair of headphones is decent. I have been playing lossless CD rips and they sound great, especially with the Dolby Atmos dsp. CDLA is only a thing if you buy the Leeco earbuds (I have just ordered a pair from Gearbest for about £10 in a flash sale). Basically it just sends the music digitally rather than converting to analogue on board. The earbuds have a 24-bit hifi audio decoder chip embedded in the usb plug.
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The thing is, analogue audio signals over the short length of cable on headphones are already basically 'lossless' so CLDA doesn't really have any benefit apart from the fact the DAC is external from the device so the headphone manufacturer may implement a better one than LeEco would have otherwise. That's it.
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The thing is, analogue audio signals over the short length of cable on headphones are already basically 'lossless' so CLDA doesn't really have any benefit apart from the fact the DAC is external from the device so the headphone manufacturer may implement a better one than LeEco would have otherwise. That's it.
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I agree. Losing the headphone jack is retarded. They could have just put the 24-bit chip from the earbuds in the phone and had a normal 3.5mm jack (it's not like the phone is very thin or waterproof). I would never have got a phone without it by choice, but for me it was a compromise I was prepared to put up with to get a high spec phone at a low price.
Regarding the adapter, mine is already starting to suffer from cable failure at the point where the cable joins the USB jack. Luckily they are very cheap to replace - I just ordered a 10 pack (not LeEco ones) from AliExpress for just $7.
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I agree. Losing the headphone jack is retarded. They could have just put the 24-bit chip from the earbuds in the phone and had a normal 3.5mm jack (it's not like the phone is very thin or waterproof). I would never have got a phone without it by choice, but for me it was a compromise I was prepared to put up with to get a high spec phone at a low price.
Regarding the adapter, mine is already starting to suffer from cable failure at the point where the cable joins the USB jack. Luckily they are very cheap to replace - I just ordered a 10 pack (not LeEco ones) from AliExpress for just $7.
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For the price I can put up with the adapter that's for sure. Hopefully we see some nice 3rd party ones with better DACs in them.
Do the iPhone 7 users complain about the same problem? I personally don't care as long as the USB-C to 3.5 mm adapter works.
I think the rationale to lose the headphone jack is untenable on all levels. Not having the option to listen to music through your headphones while having your device plugged into wall power is something I won't ever understand. We're not at a point where most consumers own Bluetooth headsets yet and wireless charging is still limited to trickle power.
I don't know about iPhone users but maybe they just have a higher tolerance to retardation?
I lost the one which came with my phone, so I ordered some of the cheap replacements. I haven't been impressed so far. I'd happily pay more for one which had a high quality Wolfson or similar DAC but I haven't been able to find one.
I bought cheap USB C dongle and the sound was absolutely awful, which makes me think I may have been mistaken in thinking the LeEco adapter (which has very good sound) is just a pass-through. Maybe it does have some kind of DAC and amp in it.
Hi,
I read an Italian review that complained about the incompatibility of different otg adapters with the phone.
Can the same be said for the 3.5mm adapters? Any experiences on that?
Thank you
When i bought the phone i also bought 3 extra adapters incase I lose one or need to use different earbuds. They all sound the same because its only passthrough. But the ones I bought extra are much better quality.
MerlijnD said:
When i bought the phone i also bought 3 extra adapters incase I lose one or need to use different earbuds. They all sound the same because its only passthrough. But the ones I bought extra are much better quality.
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Exact opposite of my experience. The original LeEco adapter and another LeEco one I bought were both great. Non-LeEco ones I bought sound terrible. Like, really unusably awful.
I bought some cheap, generic USB-C to 3.5mm and the audio quality was very strange in a bad way. They all sound bad. I've been using a small Bluetooth receiver for a few months now and it works great, but I'd still rather plug into phone.
If you want a high quality DAC solution, the Creative E3 would be good. I'm using some 'Vital' adapter I got on Amazon for £10. Pretty good for the price
Anyone know where we can buy an official adapter?
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I bought some cheap, generic USB-C to 3.5mm and the audio quality was very strange in a bad way. They all sound bad. I've been using a small Bluetooth receiver for a few months now and it works great, but I'd still rather plug into phone.
If you want a high quality DAC solution, the Creative E3 would be good. I'm using some 'Vital' adapter I got on Amazon for £10. Pretty good for the price
Anyone know where we can buy an official adapter?
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AliExpress. The same one as the one the phone comes with costs about $3
i would say the sound is okay with the one came with the phone, nothing more nothing less. Also there r enough cheap and good bluetooth earbuds!
I wonder if it's theoretically possible to use the DAC from the original earbuds to make a universal adapter for any 3.5 earbuds? Like just cut the wire and connect it to the 3.5-jack Mother. Because I'm having hybrid multi-driver earbuds with 3.5 and don't want any other for now.
Does anyone know what exactly DAC is used in LeEco earbuds?
The LeEco CDLA earbuds sound pretty good, but they have the same problems (but magnified) as the apple buds they clearly mimic in appearance - damn things refuse to stay in your ears, and the cables are really weak and flimsy. I haven't used mine all that much but they are already starting to fall to bits
So I've had the unfortunate experience of having my phone slide off the back of the toilet and right into the water bottom first. Ironically the speaker still works (without its moisture protection) but the headphone jack no longer picks up any head phones.
The question I have is if I get a usbc to 3.5mm audio adapter can I use this for headphones instead? This would seem to be the quickest work around and cheapest. If this is possible does the DAC still work through this port?
My other two options are
- replace the jack (which really doesn't seem all that hard) but there are mixed reviews on these replacements
- bluetooth headphones (no DAC and pricey to get a decent set)
Keep in mind it's been dried out (its been about 5 days) and blasted with air so it's not wet anymore. I unfortunately failed to turn the device off after this (not thinking) so I am pretty sure I could have prevented this damage.
Alternatively it's been dropped probably a dozen times face first, though I don't think this was the cause since the port isn't loose.
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Get USB C audio adapter with DAC.
I have few of them for HTC U11 Life and they also work with V20
mingkee said:
Get USB C audio adapter with DAC.
I have few of them for HTC U11 Life and they also work with V20
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And you can use the DAC with the USB C?
XsaucerX said:
And you can use the DAC with the USB C?
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Yes, audio is decoded with built in chip.
I just got my adapters this morning, one with a built in DAC and another without. The regular one actually sounds better.
Obviously I don't expect much from a 13 dollar "hifi" usb c adapter but I didn't expect it to make the sound worse.
I pretty much knew this already but the built in Quad DAC on the v20 doesn't work through the port (at least the option to enable it doesn't work), the sound is perfectly fine in my opinion though.
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