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Hi there many of you have thought about battery saving apps.
Do they really work?
Are there some apps that instead of saving battery just drain your battery even more?
Do you know any methods that really save battery?
Just post your oppinions about this subject.
nikeradsn said:
Hi there many of you have thought about battery saving apps.
Do they really work?
Are there some apps that instead of saving battery just drain your battery even more?
Do you know any methods that really save battery?
Just post your oppinions about this subject.
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Battery saver apps are useless. just turn of data, sync,WiFi, Bluetooth when not in use. decrease screen brightness and screen timeout to 30 seconds. Use 245-806 with ondemand goveror for better battery.
mittalmailbox said:
Battery saver apps are useless. just turn of data, sync,WiFi, Bluetooth when not in use. decrease screen brightness and screen timeout to 30 seconds. Use 245-806 with ondemand goveror for better battery.
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I've read many people saying that using the ondemand governor wouldnt save that much battery because of the continuous search for cpu activity, actually i'm using performance at 1024 and i also have another profile with 806 performance aswell.
I have to test it better in order to see which governor saves more battery.
I think a good set may useful
nikeradsn said:
I've read many people saying that using the ondemand governor wouldnt save that much battery because of the continuous search for cpu activity, actually i'm using performance at 1024 and i also have another profile with 806 performance aswell.
I have to test it better in order to see which governor saves more battery.
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I used to use 806 on demand, 1024 ondemand and 1200 ondemand... now I'm using 1024 performance, and I dont see any battery difference.. damn thing still drains.
The battery lasts 4/5 days on idle, what more do you want? It's par for the course.
why do you need the phone to stay on idle? for that you could buy a 10$ one =S
nikeradsn said:
why do you need the phone to stay on idle? for that you could buy a 10$ one =S
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Because it's an indicator of battery performance and proves there's nothing wrong with battery life on Aurora, despite what many believe. Having ~1 day of battery life with heavy usage and 4-5 days (or even more) on idle is on par with the battery specs.
faekplastik3s said:
Because it's an indicator of battery performance and proves there's nothing wrong with battery life on Aurora, despite what many believe. Having ~1 day of battery life with heavy usage and 4-5 days (or even more) on idle is on par with the battery specs.
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Actually we all know that the battery life in aurora its not full optimized. what i mean is what can we do in order to get the best performance without having to spend so much battery life. maybe its not possible but who knows
Fact: ICS produces more traffic than GB. A lot of apps (like browser) use more memory, so background processes die more quickly. You cannot except to get the same kind of battery performance out of an ICS rom and that's the end of it. This has nothing to do with Aurora.
When I dont need to use the phone I put the governor in powersave with a low Mhz and the battery is more safe with little use.
Phone become a little more slow but work.
When I really need to use the phone I change the governor to Smartessv2
Hey guys.
I have a clean Mahdi ROM (the latest from like 1 week ago) and have the feeling that the battery drains slightly faster than in stock. Apart from other things I started trying different kernel tweaks and I discovered the following:
The governor, although showing explanations for a whole 7 different modes, only allows me to either pick "interactive" or "performance".
Since I never really need the CPU settings from interactive mode, I actually want to use conservative.
How can I realise that now?
Please feel free to post your battery life stats, I'm really curious.
Sidenote: I have "transparent weather clock" on my homescreen and it seems to need a lot of battery. Does anyone have a recommendation for a lightweight & goodlooking homescreen widget?
The kernel for that ROM only contains two governors, please do not use performance because it only uses your max frequency, which is bad for temp & battery life.
Ace42 said:
The kernel for that ROM only contains two governors, please do not use performance because it only uses your max frequency, which is bad for temp & battery life.
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Ok, thanks for the info. I wondern why it only contains those two though.
I'd never use performance, interactive already provides more power than I need.
I'm just looking for a way to actually use the conservative mode.
Something weird just happened to me: my phone was at about 38% and when I looked 1h later, it was pretty warm and powered off 1min later because battery had dropped to 1%.
I think this is pretty weird. I did not use the phone in that hour and had no apps running.
As illogical it might sound, my first suspect was the energy saving mode I enabled. I dont know why but I think it messed something up.
Does anyone have similar issues or any useful advice for me?
w00ZzL said:
Ok, thanks for the info. I wondern why it only contains those two though.
I'd never use performance, interactive already provides more power than I need.
I'm just looking for a way to actually use the conservative mode.
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The developer believes those to be the best choices, I have no clue why. Interactive mostly stays near the max freq & makes my phone uber hot like an oven. Feel free to use Render kernel, its in the general section.
w00ZzL said:
Something weird just happened to me: my phone was at about 38% and when I looked 1h later, it was pretty warm and powered off 1min later because battery had dropped to 1%.
I think this is pretty weird. I did not use the phone in that hour and had no apps running.
As illogical it might sound, my first suspect was the energy saving mode I enabled. I dont know why but I think it messed something up.
Does anyone have similar issues or any useful advice for me?
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I've never experienced that, are you on the latest nightly?
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The developer believes those to be the best choices, I have no clue why. Interactive mostly stays near the max freq & makes my phone uber hot like an oven. Feel free to use Render kernel, its in the general section.
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Do you have Render kernel? If yes which governor mode are you using?
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I've never experienced that, are you on the latest nightly?
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I'm on the version from 6-28 and patch V6 which should be the latest?!
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Do you have Render kernel? If yes which governor mode are you using?
I'm on the version from 6-28 and patch V6 which should be the latest?!
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That is the latest, I'm currently using Render kernelon 6-28 with ondemand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development/kernel-render-kernel-aosp-lg-roms-t2803929/page5
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That is the latest, I'm currently using Render kernelon 6-28 with ondemand.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/development/kernel-render-kernel-aosp-lg-roms-t2803929/page5
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Thanks for bringing that kernel up, I've flashed it yesterday and am delighted. Will try the release from today now.
BTW my low battery life is gone now so thanks again.
Good morning Le Pro3 forum -
I've been switching between Paranoid Android and Lineage OS for the past few weeks. One thing I've noticed very specifically is that PA 7.3.0 (and 7.2.0...) does not seem to effectively go into 'doze' as well as Lineage OS. What I mean is that battery drain overnight is pretty high on PA (10-20%) while Lineage is very low (less than 5%) using the same applications.
So that I can better understand and troubleshoot, would anyone be willing to point me to other forum posts either here or on other forums that dive into troubleshooting this kind of thing? I'm not finding anything that useful that is *recent*.
Thanks in advance!
mdkathon said:
Good morning Le Pro3 forum -
I've been switching between Paranoid Android and Lineage OS for the past few weeks. One thing I've noticed very specifically is that PA 7.3.0 (and 7.2.0...) does not seem to effectively go into 'doze' as well as Lineage OS. What I mean is that battery drain overnight is pretty high on PA (10-20%) while Lineage is very low (less than 5%) using the same applications.
So that I can better understand and troubleshoot, would anyone be willing to point me to other forum posts either here or on other forums that dive into troubleshooting this kind of thing? I'm not finding anything that useful that is *recent*.
Thanks in advance!
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Slightly tangential, but how is the battery life overall compared to LineageOS? I've been running LineageOS and while it performs well, the battery life isn't nearly as good as stock EUI. As for over night battery drain, I get about 10% in 8-9 hours in stand by.
Hey. I tried every single rom out there from MoKee to Lineage and i can asure u one thing. Best for battery is Omni ROM (latest) + BlackScreen kernel version 3.6
Now i am a medium - heavy user. Lots of time on snapchat and playin games for about half an hour to a hour. I got 6 hours of screen on time wich is great really compared to other roms.
Now i also tried various combinations of using different governors and so on so i tested an option for about three days and then tried another one. I was seeking for the best possible battery life while don't have any stuttering or lags. Cuz if u put the cpu governor for example on impulse and then underclock it too... It lags like hell.
Soo what do u need to do to get also good standby performance?? I loose less than 3% over night.
Try following:
IN KERNEL AUDITOR
CPU: Both big and little cores governor set on alucard
Underclock the big cores to 1900 and little cores to 1440
GPU: governor set to msm-adreno-tz; underclock max frequency to 560 MHz; enable Adreno idler
I/O sheduler: set governor to noop; read-ahead 128 kB
Low Memory Killer: set profile to Agressive
Misc: Vibration strenght set on about 15%, disable Fsync, TCP must be westwood.
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Developer options:
Set logger buffer size to off
Set all three animation scales on 0.5x
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That is it. If u have any questions or something doesn't work as written -> reply back
P.S. turn off wi-fi during night. Helps a bunch.
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Hey. I tried every single rom out there from MoKee to Lineage and i can asure u one thing. Best for battery is Omni ROM (latest) + BlackScreen kernel version 3.6
Now i am a medium - heavy user. Lots of time on snapchat and playin games for about half an hour to a hour. I got 6 hours of screen on time wich is great really compared to other roms.
Now i also tried various combinations of using different governors and so on so i tested an option for about three days and then tried another one. I was seeking for the best possible battery life while don't have any stuttering or lags. Cuz if u put the cpu governor for example on impulse and then underclock it too... It lags like hell.
Soo what do u need to do to get also good standby performance?? I loose less than 3% over night.
Try following:
IN KERNEL AUDITOR
CPU: Both big and little cores governor set on alucard
Underclock the big cores to 1900 and little cores to 1440
GPU: governor set to msm-adreno-tz; underclock max frequency to 560 MHz; enable Adreno idler
I/O sheduler: set governor to noop; read-ahead 128 kB
Low Memory Killer: set profile to Agressive
Misc: Vibration strenght set on about 15%, disable Fsync, TCP must be westwood.
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Developer options:
Set logger buffer size to off
Set all three animation scales on 0.5x
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That is it. If u have any questions or something doesn't work as written -> reply back
P.S. turn off wi-fi during night. Helps a bunch.
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Hi mate, thank you for your detailed review. It helped me especially for kernel auditor settings. But i have an objection in my honest oppinion. I have tried both roms, AICP 12.1 and OmniROM and AICP is much better at battery department. But both rom is great in the rest.
SUMMERBREEZE said:
Hi mate, thank you for your detailed review. It helped me especially for kernel auditor settings. But i have an objection in my honest oppinion. I have tried both roms, AICP 12.1 and OmniROM and AICP is much better at battery department. But both rom is great in the rest.
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Really, well u know it is mostly how u use it. Cuz for my type of usage Omni works perfect. I was using AICP for a month before i tried other roms as described and it was really good but idk... When i was using it i got 4h and 30min at best with my kind of usage but with omni i got easily 6h. It depends from user to user but well... I will give AICP another shot anyway. I am glad that my review helped u.
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Really, well u know it is mostly how u use it. Cuz for my type of usage Omni works perfect. I was using AICP for a month before i tried other roms as described and it was really good but idk... When i was using it i got 4h and 30min at best with my kind of usage but with omni i got easily 6h. It depends from user to user but well... I will give AICP another shot anyway. I am glad that my review helped u.
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yes it helped a lot. especially kernel tweaking thing. both rom is great imho and 1-1.5 hr screen on time difference may marry -as you said- on which programs/apps we use. we must be glad that our le pro 3 has a great nougat support from these beautiful devs and i dont know how to thank to them. i just used 2-3 days this AICP rom and i will give also a shot to OmniROM to compare them again. I love both roms and i am sure i will keep switching between the two
Hey there,
Just to let you know that with bootloader unlocked + root (magisk) there is a nice set of tunable option with kernel adiutor. With a bit of entropy and governor tuning, you get even better performance from your a2. That's pretty cool ??
Can you share your settings? Hours of screen, performance... And kernel adiutor setup
RawKnighy said:
Can you share your settings? Hours of screen, performance... And kernel adiutor setup
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disabled cpu boost to avoid cpu stuck at 2,2
Change governor to on demand
Entropy increase to get 40% free
Mostly it.
SOT depend on my use and vary between 4-5 hours to 6+ hours. This is mainly due to two factors:
-network coverage (this can suck your battery like nothing)
- use if BT + viperfx for hours ?
The best way to test it.. is to test it you may have the same increase as me (4 hours sit at most before mod)
Grüß,
H.
*stucked cpu ppl, please don't hate me, I had to wait to get something to be shown ??
Look at that sleep deepness ?
dodjob said:
*stucked cpu ppl, please don't hate me, I had to wait to get something to be shown ??
Look at that sleep deepness ?
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You rooted your mi a2 right.so are you facing any issue after root?
Lol No, except that I installed a gcamera which wrecked my original camera.. after countless system flash it went but all ok. The ondemand thing is a real treat mate, and fast as hell ?
dodjob said:
*stucked cpu ppl, please don't hate me, I had to wait to get something to be shown ??
Look at that sleep deepness ?
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Does the clock alarm work with such a deep sleep?
ILA said:
Does the clock alarm work with such a deep sleep?
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Of course it does ?
Can I get the process of installation
I don't see any improvements with on demand actually. Interactive gives me 0.3%/h drain in deep sleep and I doubt it can get much better
Benjamin_L said:
I don't see any improvements with on demand actually. Interactive gives me 0.3%/h drain in deep sleep and I doubt it can get much better
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On demand does not improvement battery life as soon as you keep cpu boost in cpu 1. Did you disabled it? For me it was night and day
Chaitanya Kumar said:
Can I get the process of installation
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Unlock bootloader + root the phone and then just install an app called "Kernel auditor" from the Play store and tune the kernel from within the app.
dodjob said:
Hey there,
Just to let you know that with bootloader unlocked + root (magisk) there is a nice set of tunable option with kernel adiutor. With a bit of entropy and governor tuning, you get even better performance from your a2. That's pretty cool ??
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Care share settings with screenshot?
dodjob said:
disabled cpu boost to avoid cpu stuck at 2,2
Change governor to on demand
Entropy increase to get 40% free
Mostly it.
SOT depend on my use and vary between 4-5 hours to 6+ hours. This is mainly due to two factors:
-network coverage (this can suck your battery like nothing)
- use if BT + viperfx for hours ?
The best way to test it.. is to test it you may have the same increase as me (4 hours sit at most before mod)
Grüß,
H.
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Danke! Can you share your entropy settings, please!
e34v8 said:
Danke! Can you share your entropy settings, please!
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wow, this deep sleep was awesome
Just install hex kernel... It's awesome
syncstar32 said:
Just install hex kernel... It's awesome
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whats the advantages ?
Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
**Guys who have the 2gb kenzo, try the mcaosp 8.0 ROM instead of havoc. It has better
RAM management for you guys.**
shivaay1234 said:
Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
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Lol why u disabling cores. If u fantasize about 5000mah battery then buy redmi 8. Most of the kenzo users gone to android 10.
Black_Stark said:
Lol why u disabling cores. If u fantasize about 5000mah battery then buy redmi 8. Most of the kenzo users gone to android 10.
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You don't like it don't use it. Don't criticize him for giving his opinion. You're talking as if he's forced you to disable your phones cores.
By the way, I'll try out the setup. Thanks for posting it for all kenzo users.
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@shivaay1234, Good tutorial - thank you! Could you please share your undervolting preferences?
wxtester said:
@shivaay1234, Good tutorial - thank you! Could you please share your undervolting preferences?
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Glad you liked it mate. I'll tell you my undervolting values, but it's different for everyone, so, do experiment.
400 and 695 mhz with 710mv
806mhz 745mv
1017mhz 825mv
1190mhz 880mv
1305mhz 915mv
1382mhz 935mv
shivaay1234 said:
Glad you liked it mate. I'll tell you my undervolting values, but it's different for everyone, so, do experiment.
400 and 695 mhz with 710mv
806mhz 745mv
1017mhz 825mv
1190mhz 880mv
1305mhz 915mv
1382mhz 935mv
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Thanks a lot mate. You're setup is giving me close to 12hrs of sot, which is insane. I still can't believe it. Thanks man.
i will try, i dont care about android 10
rickymanx said:
i will try, i dont care about android 10
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Lol. Same here mate.
shivaay1234 said:
Hey guys. Just wanted to share some tweaks with which you guys can get amazing battery life on your redmi note 3. I used this setup for 3 full charge cycles, and averaged about 10Hrs SOT with a 1 year old battery, when I was getting about 5-6 hrs of SOT only on normal pie/10 roms. Do give this setup a try if you want the absolute best battery, and don't mind about performance degradation a bit... The device now behaves like it's got a 5000Mah battery now. If you guys manage a better setup than this, then do share your setup down below. And please hit the thanks button if this helped you. Cheers:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:.
SETUP:
Havoc OS latest 8.1
Latest agni kernel 13.0
Spectrum profile to battery
In any kernel manager (I use fk kernel manager):
.Big cores disabled
.Little cores max clock at 1382Mhz. Min clock to 400Mhz.
.Undervolt to lowest stable value (It's different for everyone, so try out a stable value for you).
.GPU max freq to 432MHz. Min to 133Mhz.
.Adreno Idler to on.
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Where I should get that spectrum profile?
Divyeshj66 said:
Where I should get that spectrum profile?
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It's an app in the play store. Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.frap129.spectrum&hl=en
If anyone wondering, you can use Kernel Aduitor to disable cores and undervolting, it's free and it is quite comprehensive.
@shivaay1234 are you the guy who made that rapid os rom?
Ehsnf said:
@shivaay1234 are you the guy who made that rapid os rom?
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Yup.
shivaay1234 said:
Yup.
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Oh cool. Bro, but why did you stop development of rapid os? I liked that ROM so much...
Divyeshj66 said:
Oh cool. Bro, but why did you stop development of rapid os? I liked that ROM so much...
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When Q sources become stable, I will release the Q version of the ROM.
I used to disable the big cores as well on a per-app basis. For light usage like listening to music or reading ebooks, downloading stuff in the background etc it used to yield tangible improvements in battery life. Also while charging to keep battery temp. in check. Now I have Tasker automate it all.
Funnily enough in Redmi Note 3 with only the little cores active device didn't feel much slower but in my Poco F1 whose little cores are much faster (higher IPC, 25% higher clock speeds) it would feel a little laggy with big cores disabled.
Its better to undervolt only the higher frequencies and leave alone/reduce only a little the lower ones as they are much closer to the threshold voltage and more likely to cause a forced reboot if undervolted too much.
@amn1987 Thanks for bumping this thread dude, i really needed to improve my SOT. Hopefully this will help.
PRemBh0i said:
@amn1987 Thanks for bumping this thread dude, i really needed to improve my SOT. Hopefully this will help.
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Bear in mind the performance degradation can be quite noticeable. Instead of completely disabling the big cores maybe experiment with clocking them lower at 1-1.2GHz where they are most efficient in terms of perf./W IIRC. At these low clocks they will still completely outperform the little cores due to nearly 80% higher performance per clock.
SHADOW Kernel by @energyspear17
Already have QUAD core and battery mode.
You can also UV while flashing
Which would result in better battery backup.
Anyways different peoples different choices.
Good works?