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Question about N1 w/o data yet

Hi so i got my N1 today and its pretty awesome but i don't have a data plan yet. My data plan will start affect on 1/24 so i turned off the data sync, bg data, and my location.
My question is i still see the 2g arrows light up every now and then (turned on 2g to save bat.) and i wanted to know will i be charged for data by the size? I have Tmo btw

I'm not too sure but too be on the safe side get on wifi and download the app called APNDroid. It will turn off your 3G and 2G entirely then you can turn it back on when T-Mobile enables your data.

thanks i went and got the app didn't know there was something like that

spypack said:
thanks i went and got the app didn't know there was something like that
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there are tons of apps out there, welcome to the team

Data connection

Hi there!
I'm eagerly waiting for SGS to be released in my country (Bulgaria) to take my greedy hands on it. I peronally believe that SGS is most finished Andriod mobile as for now. During waiting, I would like to ask all of happy real users a following question:
[QUESTION] Is it possible to turn all data connection surely off?
I know, there is an option to shut data off, but is it sure? In HD2 even you turned off data connection, the phone decides to turn it on by itself in matter of minutes, whithout asking for permition . Temporarily, I have a very limited data plan, so such an situation can easily get me overcharged.
Your detailed commends will be very much appreciated.
Thank you in advance!

it is possible with 3rd party programs like APN ON/OFF, Data On Demand, etc..

Yes, there is an app called APNDroid on the Market that changes the APN settings when you want to turn off data. This way you can be sure it won't use any data as the APNs don't work.

I use APNdroid, a free app, for turning of data traffic. Up until now, a week, it has not been turned on automatically. It pretty much works the way I expect it too.
However no guarantees. Even APNdroid says that some programs might remain active, but my battery certainly improves with turned of 3G.

Thank you for immediate answers. It prety much seems that APNDroid will do the job. However, next question arrose:
[QUESTION] How can you supervise your data traffic, e.g. how many MB you've already spent?
Great forum, tho.
Best.

I use 3G Watchdog. You can set a monthly data limit which is nice. And it works together with APNdroid by shutting off 3G automatically when you for example reach 99% of that monthly quota. It doesn't do this out of the box. You have to enable the feature in the settings of 3G Watchdog after installing APNdroid.
I suggest that you install 3G Watchdog app first.

Yes, I too use 3G Watchdog.
Very nice App and you get to see both Received & Transmitted data for:-
Quota
Today
Week
Month

Thank you very much for the comprehensive answers of yours!
I have no more questions. Waiting for the release date.
Wish you nice day.

[Q] Can't turn off 3G

I don't have an unlimited data plan so I normally turn my 3G on and off manually when I need to. But today my 3G icon keeps coming up on the tab even when i have the settings as off. I checked my data usage from my carrier and it is indeed eating up data. I've tried restarting the phone but it's still the same.
Any idea of why this is happening and how to resolve this?
Thanks in Advance
- Henry

try APNdroid, you can find it in the Market.

Escamotage said:
I don't have an unlimited data plan so I normally turn my 3G on and off manually when I need to. But today my 3G icon keeps coming up on the tab even when i have the settings as off. I checked my data usage from my carrier and it is indeed eating up data. I've tried restarting the phone but it's still the same.
Any idea of why this is happening and how to resolve this?
Thanks in Advance
- Henry
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If you have your data disabled then it shouldn't be coming on. Check your permissions to see if you have an app on your phone that has permission to mess with your network settings.
Sent from my cm6.1 Aria using XDA App

APNDroid would work for your situation very well, however, I've had problems sending MMS's when I've had APNDroid installed (even with "enable MMS" checked).
Another option that would probably work very well is DroidWall (on the market-free). It's a firewall for your mobile data and WiFi, customizable for each allowing individual programs through. A widget on your homescreen turns it on or off. You could have it set so programs can always use WiFi, yet mobile data is blocked unless you turn the widget to "off". That wy no programs can actually transmit anything even if they have permissions set in the program. DroidWall has final say of what leaves.
I downloaded 3GWatchdog free, and was so impressed I purchased the Pro version for ~$2.50. The Pro version allows you to see specifically what program has used mobile data, and how much. That, along with DroidWall, will allow me to completely customize and control my mobile data while still retaining as much functionality as possible.

Ok Well I downloaded both APNDroid and Watchdog and now I can't even turn on 3G. I just uninstalled both of them and turn my phone off and on still no 3G.
Thanks anyway guys. I getting really close to giving up on Android and moving to the iphone. Every other day there's a new problem with this mobile OS and I always have to download an app rectify something that shouldn't be happening in the first place. It's getting ridiculous.

Escamotage said:
Ok Well I downloaded both APNDroid and Watchdog and now I can't even turn on 3G. I just uninstalled both of them and turn my phone off and on still no 3G.
Thanks anyway guys. I getting really close to giving up on Android and moving to the iphone. Every other day there's a new problem with this mobile OS and I always have to download an app rectify something that shouldn't be happening in the first place. It's getting ridiculous.
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Did you turn your mobile data back on before uninstalling APNdroid? If not, you might want to look into that
No offense, but I dont think its Android that is the problem. Have you taken the time to fully understand the phone? I havent had a hitch since I got this phone. Once you reinstall APNdroid, enable your data, and then remove the app. If you would like to manually turn off your mobile data then do this menu>settings>wireless & networks>mobile networks>uncheck data enabled
If you dont want to go through the hassle of that, download an app to do it for you. Quick settings can do it. Open quick settings>menu>preference>statusbar shortcut *To access quick settings from status bar* Then hit back>menu>customize>move up mobile data(APN) from hidden settings. Then all you have to do is click on or off for mobile data.
You can also download various widgets that can do this for you without having to go into quick settings. APNdroid being one of them. I use Widgetsoid.

[Q]TMOUS Free Data?

Hello ladies and dudes
I have HTC HD2 TMOUS and obviously my carrier is TMOBILE US.
I was checking different roms for it and I noticed one thing.
On some, if not most, htc sense roms I was able to receive facebook, email, twitter, etc updates without having a data plan nor wifi.
I believe I have had data turned on the phone but I do not have actual data plan.
So I was working and had to check something on the phone and accidently opened email. And I noticed that it started to sync and I was like "Meh, whatcha doing stupid, I have no data plan". But All suddenly it pulled all recent email and I was able to read them even with images.
Then I tried facebook widget thing and it was pulling data too, as well as twitter.
Then I switched to vanilla froyo rom and the data thing was gone
Now I am wondering, is there a specific port that tmobile provides for free data but with maybe limited speed? or bandwidth?
Or maybe special APN settings?
I would love to see that back because it's kinda useful sometimes.
Hope someone can explain to me what it was about and if it's possible to get back.
P.S. I didn't have my wifi turned on. Plus it worked at different locations but only with data turned on in settings and with 3g+ on.
P.P.S. I did not get charged for data and I do not have data plan for sure.
P.P.P.S. I know tmobile provides free 2mb when you open new line, but this isnt my case, had this line for about half a year.
P.P.P.P.S. I don't care if the speed is 20kb/s or 3kb/s or hell 1kb/s

Woah that's awesome, Although I know nothing about T-Mobile Policies etc. Firstly though, Are you sure you haven't been charged?

sorry if im skeptical but i find it hard that your OS is affecting when you are able to get your data. Also, if you are getting data i would assume that your carrier is billing you like crazy without you realizing it

Go to my T-Mobile. Com and see if u have any data show up in ur usage. But I know that T-Mobile wont automatically add data plan to your account without notify you.

As I wrote before. I have double checked and I have NOT been charged extra.
I beleive that kernel might have something in it or APN settings.

Massively increased battery duration

I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?

If you wanna increase that even further, just turn the whole thing off. The battery will last for weeks.

teh_lorax said:
If you wanna increase that even further, just turn the whole thing off. The battery will last for weeks.
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He actually has a point, there's no point on being sarcastic over a good advice that should be logical by now.

rogeriorp said:
He actually has a point, there's no point on being sarcastic over a good advice that should be logical by now.
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Yes, turning off (necessary) features saves battery. This is not shocking.

teh_lorax said:
Yes, turning off (necessary) features saves battery. This is not shocking.
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It is not shocking but somehow people tend to forget the basics. And it is also unnecessary while on wifi, which is the case and the advice he spoke of.
And I'd go even further and set 3G only with wifi, lollipop tends to switch from wifi to LTE by itself very often.

I've heard of people suggesting switching off wifi when your not using it, but never mobile data. So i just thought it might be a suggestion some people might appreciate. Take it or leave it.
Plus wifi is doing the exact same funtion as mobile data when your connected to it, so your not losing any functionality.
If your rooted you can even get Tasker to do the switch automatically.

This actually doesn't work. The data radio goes I to sleep mode when WiFi is on. Its not just doing its own thing while wood is on.

Definitely working on WiFi enhances battery life enormously but didn't try switching off mobile data

Zammo76 said:
I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?
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How is this possible? When your wifi radio is connected, the data side is completely disconnected. This is even reported in your 'status'.

I see your point, but all I know is that it definitely is making a large difference for me.
One theory I attributed it with was that with Wifi and Mobile Data switched on the phone is getting a lot more Wake Locks (perhaps doubling up), which in turn could also possibly be preventing the phone going into a Deep Sleep. But as the Wakelock detector app doesn't work any more (unless your rooted), I can't verify this.

Gonna test this out!

The issue with turning off mobile data is that it will cause problems with sending and receiving MMS, you may also have problems with SMS as well.
My HTC Sensation was really good at basically putting the radio to sleep when on Wifi and only waking when needing to send or receive data that will only work over the cell network.

Zammo76 said:
I'm guessing a lot of people on here know this already but I recently discovered how to massively increase my Moto X's battery duration. Namely by switching off Mobile Data, I can then go a full 14 hours only dropping down to around 75% by the end. So now as soon as I get into work or any place where I'm on Wifi I switch off mobile data.
Makes me wonder why having mobile data switched on is expending so much battery power?
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I don't disable mobile data, but I do use tasker to switch to 3G when I'm connected to wifi. The LTE radio uses a lot more battery in poor signal areas (like my apartment) and I have noticed it helps me go from about 3 hours of screen time to 4.5. I think the MMS issues are a good point and I feel like this solution is slightly more elegant because even with mobile data disabled, the phone is still holding an LTE signal. Ymmv, obviously

mrapp said:
I don't disable mobile data, but I do use tasker to switch to 3G when I'm connected to wifi. The LTE radio uses a lot more battery in poor signal areas (like my apartment) and I have noticed it helps me go from about 3 hours of screen time to 4.5. I think the MMS issues are a good point and I feel like this solution is slightly more elegant because even with mobile data disabled, the phone is still holding an LTE signal. Ymmv, obviously
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Hi can you explain whats the settings on tasker to do such a thing? Ive never used it but I have heard good things and just bought the app!

unk3 said:
Hi can you explain whats the settings on tasker to do such a thing? Ive never used it but I have heard good things and just bought the app!
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First you'll need root and this plugin (make sure to enable external access in the plugin app)
Basically, create a profile that runs whenever you connect to a network (you can leave it blank for all networks or press the search button to choose just your home network).
The entry task would basically wait 10 seconds and then run the plugin choosing wcdma/gsm (auto) as the network mode. Choose then to add an exit task which simply recalls the plugin and chooses the network mode as LTE, wcdma, gsm. You can even add an extra step to each task at the end which has tasker display a toast that you can have say LTE enabled or 3g mode only

BrokenWall said:
The issue with turning off mobile data is that it will cause problems with sending and receiving MMS, you may also have problems with SMS as well.
My HTC Sensation was really good at basically putting the radio to sleep when on Wifi and only waking when needing to send or receive data that will only work over the cell network.
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SMS/MMS are sent via voice channels, not data.

floepie said:
SMS/MMS are sent via voice channels, not data.
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SMS is sent over Voice channels. MMS still requires data.
I double checked and tested this on my Pure Edition on T-Mobile.
Disabled Wifi and Cellular Data
Sent a standard text message, it was received by the other party. Attempted to send a photo message, it was not able to send from my phone as well as the other party did not receive it. Though it did resend when data was enabled.

Tasker can't turn off mobile data since Lollipop update....
Any sugestions?

BrokenWall said:
SMS is sent over Voice channels. MMS still requires data.
I double checked and tested this on my Pure Edition on T-Mobile.
Disabled Wifi and Cellular Data
Sent a standard text message, it was received by the other party. Attempted to send a photo message, it was not able to send from my phone as well as the other party did not receive it. Though it did resend when data was enabled.
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No one sends MMS messages now (apart from old people), since the advent of Whats app and the like, so its hardly a deal breaker.

Zammo76 said:
No one sends MMS messages now (apart from old people), since the advent of Whats app and the like, so its hardly a deal breaker.
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