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Why are there so many for sale - advertised new and going for about 70 euros.
Is there a problem with them.
Do they need to be unlocked.
I was going to buy one at that price as a spare/to try mods on.
Steve
I have one for sale if you are interested, it has been opened, but all items are still sealed and un used. £380 (Boxed & Mint condition) if you are interested, I live in Bedfordshire, the unit is unlocked and contract free.
Sound suspiciously 'Nigerian' no me.
If it's too good to be true & if it's on ebay.....
say no more, don't be a mug UNLESS YOU'RE 10,000% SURE!
Andy
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Put it this way, you won't get a BUST one for under 140 quid (and i'm NOT including the marked up postage costs). Without a box in good working condtion, £300. Boxed & Mint, >£400, so go figure at 70E.
I got mine Bust for £80 - dozy tosser mislisted it - ha my bargain. 1/2 hour later fixed the damn thing. Friggin mint condition t'boot.
BTW, I'll bet my bottom dorrar that the seller is Chinese....
And I'll place another bet, I bet the listing will won't last long....
hollytree said:
Why are there so many for sale - advertised new and going for about 70 euros.
Is there a problem with them.
Do they need to be unlocked.
I was going to buy one at that price as a spare/to try mods on.
Steve
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A new universal for 70 euros... mmmm i'll have ten units please; unlocked or not...
It is probably a scammer selling these 'items' under someone elses account.
I got mine on Ebay for 420 pounds. I'm in australia and you'd be lucky to get it for 600 pounds here. works like a charm. of course AFTER i upgraded with the JasJar ROM and burnt O2's software
I bought one on eBay for GBP 414, but the seller reneged -- he said he could not get the phone from his supplier. I quoted him eBay policy on selling items that are not already in possession of the seller. He was apologetic, and said this is the first time it's happened (his feedback shows previous Universal sales which were successful). He has a 99.7% feedback rating, with 358 positives and 1 negative from long ago. He said he's going to refund me, but has to wait for a bank transfer to clear PayPal, since he already transfered the money out of PayPal. Sounds suspicious. But I have PayPal buyer protection (for what it's worth), and I used my credit card. I will give him time, and if he still doesn't refund, I'll go through the non-selling seller process.
So I bought from a different seller for GBP 431, and I am waiting for it.
So many of these Universal auctions say "opened only to inspect" or "opened only to test", that it sounds suspicious.
Also, many of them say "unwanted upgrade", as if they were mailed a free phone and just want to get rid of it. Does O2 mail free Universals as upgrades?
Don't buy Universals on eBay unless the seller has 99+% feedback > 100, and the auction is covered under the "Free PayPal Buyer Protection". Look at their feedbacks, and what they bought/sold earlier. Pay with PayPal, and use a credit card as the funding source.
'free' at £75/month, min term 18months.
So if you consider £1400 free, then yes, they're 'free'.
Anyway, rules of ebay are:
1) It's a sellers market
2) Don't be greedy or you'll get a deserved bite in the ass
3) Supply & demand rules the roost.
4) research research research
5) READ FEEDBACKS & APPLY A BIT OF NOUNCE!!!
Hunt around for mislisted items - takes time but jeeeez the bargains I've scooped! Hence:
6) You put the effort in, you get the rewards out.
Andy
I had a look at those 70Euro Universals.
Seller from overseas? Check
Selling price way too low? Check
Seller doesn't take paypal? Check
1 day auction? Check
Seller's username appears randomly generated? Check
New seller account with feedback of around 10? Check
Feedback comments all left in a very short time interval? Check
Feedback comments brief and unlike genuine feedback? Check
Feedback left by 10 feedback, randomly generated usernames? Check
Initial bid from 10 feedback, randomly generated username? Check
So it rates 10/10 on the scammometer! But what the hell - bid on it anyway!
ROFL! :lol:
Yep, came across one of these & was about to flag it as a scam & as I was looking, it got removed!!!
Andy
spv-m5000 unlocked
gd day all i have them for you shippin via ems from israel to worldwide
spv-m5000 brand new unlocked
450 gbp + 15 gbp shipping
send me a private message if you want
Tried to sell mine on ebay a couple of times now , each time some idiot ruins the auction - so not sure who to trust now
I see these posting all the time for all sorts of high priced electronics. They are so easy to spot really if you follow the guidelines people posted above.
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So many of these Universal auctions say "opened only to inspect" or "opened only to test", that it sounds suspicious.
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IMO neither of those are suspisious. It means i have a better chance of getting a working unit. And just because someone got a free upgrade and does not state it does not make the listing any more legit.
I sold a spare XDA Exec on ebay which i acttually got as a cheap upgrade but not free. My wife prefers her existing phone. I knew it had a good chance of going out of the UK so for me to not check it would be madness. I wanted to list it as Sim Free i could not do that without physically checking. Plus i could not list it as working if i did not know that fior sure.
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Also, many of them say "unwanted upgrade", as if they were mailed a free phone and just want to get rid of it. Does O2 mail free Universals as upgrades?
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Yes this does happen a lot. O2 want to keep your business so at the end of your contract you are eligble for an upgrade to tie you up again for 12 or 18 months. They look at your history and if you have spent a lot of money with them on calls you get lots of offers. The more you have spent the better the offers. A lot of people are happy with there existing phone but know they could make a lot of money selling the new one.
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Tried to sell mine on ebay a couple of times now , each time some idiot ruins the auction - so not sure who to trust now
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Yes this is another bad problem with ebay. You have the option to remove bidders and to cancel the auction early to the highest bidder. You can only do this up until 12hrs before the auction ends. When i sold mine i waited to just before the 12hrs deadline and accepted the highest bidder i considered genuine based on their location and feedback that had an agreeable price for me. I was not out to make as much as i could get but just a fair price.
This worked well for me.
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I see these posting all the time for all sorts of high priced electronics. They are so easy to spot really if you follow the guidelines people posted above.
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See what postings?
So many of these Universal auctions say "opened only to inspect" or "opened only to test", that it sounds suspicious.
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IMO neither of those are suspisious. It means i have a better chance of getting a working unit.
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But it could be being used to sell a unit as "new" while hiding that it was "used".
And just because someone got a free upgrade and does not state it does not make the listing any more legit.
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(You probably meant "any less legit", but it still doesn't make sense. I said that they do state that they have an unwanted upgrade, something which sounds suspicious because it seems to be hiding something else. "Oh, I'm just selling this because it's an unwanted upgrade. I won't tell you anything else about it though.")
I sold a spare XDA Exec on ebay which i acttually got as a cheap upgrade but not free. My wife prefers her existing phone. I knew it had a good chance of going out of the UK so for me to not check it would be madness. I wanted to list it as Sim Free i could not do that without physically checking.
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All Execs are unlocked AFAIK.
Plus i could not list it as working if i did not know that fior sure.
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I always offer refunds on DOA equipment. Be sure to write down the serial number and put it in the auction, or someone might trade their defective unit for yours.
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Tried to sell mine on ebay a couple of times now , each time some idiot ruins the auction - so not sure who to trust now
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Yes this is another bad problem with ebay. You have the option to remove bidders and to cancel the auction early to the highest bidder. You can only do this up until 12hrs before the auction ends. When i sold mine i waited to just before the 12hrs deadline and accepted the highest bidder i considered genuine based on their location and feedback that had an agreeable price for me. I was not out to make as much as i could get but just a fair price.
This worked well for me.
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You're missing out on the sniper bids by ending early, but as you say, you weren't out to make as much as you can get.
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All Execs are unlocked AFAIK.
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I believe the german market units are providor locked. But don't quote me...
Richard
Hi,
I got my Vodafone V1640 for 330 GBP on eBay.
The seller accepted PayPal but anyway I spent a few days worried about not getting the phone.
It took 4-5 days till I received it.
Unfortunately it is locked to Vodafone UK and I want to use it with Vodafone Portugal.
No luck till now for the unlock code...
Cheers
I have over 900 + feedback on ebay and I always buy from those who have Buyer protection if its over £100. Bought my exec back in dec/jan this year from a guy who had 2 for sale for £385. The first had a screen calibration problem as if it'd been dropped. Sent him an email and he promptly sent me his other one just as soon as I sent him the first back. Since then absolutely no problems.
Also I always mention when selling that any1 with less than 5 + feedback will have their bids removed. I make sure I'm logged in for the last minutes of the auction in case I get sum1 with less then 5 feedback messing around. And I sure have had to cancel a few bids in the last few minutes. HTH
Consider this
£378 will buy a XDA Exec direct from O2's site brand new.
This is £150 for the XDA & 12 * monthly cost of £19
(which includes 50 anytime mins per month.)
Puts some of the £400-£500 Buy it Now deals in perspective.
Well in the UK at least.
I ordered one from www.expansys-usa.com last Tuesday. They told me that it would arrive the next day. Then they told me that it would ship out on Friday, then Monday (today), then Tuesday (tomorrow). Now they're telling me that they wont get any more in until the first week of December. What's going on? I just want to buy a phone. Any place overseas have them IN STOCK that they want to ship to me?
Try clove technology
and search here for them too. I think people are satisfied with their service!
Ofiaich
ebay. there's 2 people there that have them in the u.s.
You can try ebay.com.au. They do delivery to worldwide, but the warranty is only in Australia.
eBay has a couple sellers with them "In Stock". Mine has yet to ship from one of these sellers. I suggest using Microsoft Live! cashback if you purchase through eBay. Last time I checked 25% back was still available for Buy It Now PayPal purchases (US Only).
there are over 100 units from various sellers on Ebay USA, some claims to be in stock.
Would ya'll trust something like that coming off eBay?
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Would ya'll trust something like that coming off eBay?
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Provide you pay by paypal, there is a 20,000 buyer protection program, subject to a relatively small admin charge. I won't worry about it.
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y not?
i've never had a problem buying something on ebay. check feedbacks and pay with paypal for protection
try clove technology; that's who i purchased mine from and so did several others on the forum. whoever you go with, remember that the phone WILL HAVE to clear US Customs so make sure the seller has completed all the paper work! the most important item to include on the customs paperwork is the FCC ID!
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try clove technology; that's who i purchased mine from and so did several others on the forum. whoever you go with, remember that the phone WILL HAVE to clear US Customs so make sure the seller has completed all the paper work! the most important item to include on the customs paperwork is the FCC ID!
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I second this. I bought it from Clove Technology in UK. They shipped my device overnight as promised. It got delayed at US customs due to some paper work. But when I communicated to Clove about this, they filled it out and sent me a scanned copy via eMail and I sent the same to FedEx by Fax and it got cleared and got it delivered the next day.
Unfortunately, I got a defective device. My phone was not recognizing the SIM card. I tried everything, and its just the hardware problem. I contacted Clove... they asked me to ship it back. As soon as they received it, they shipped the replacement the same day. I got mine this morning.
I am sure they have enough units with them, since they sent my replacement device right away.
- Clove you owe me a discount on my next purchase...
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Absolutely, if the seller is networkingrus! I've purchased two touch cruise's and and HD from him, and his act is really together!!! Or... you can check out his website. He's not as cheap as some of the other places, but his service is top-notch!
Everyone always says Clove, but no one ever give their website... so here it is... www.clove.co.uk. These guys are cheap, but I can't vouch for their service or integrity.
Happy trails!!!
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I've used eBay for many gray market phones. Its a good choice. Some sellers are excellent. Just check feedback, read descriptions, and use PayPal.
Inkino
I used Inkino for my HD purchase. I found it on the "approved" list from the HTC site. Very good price and shipped really fast. I called them once to confirm an address and they were exceptionally nice and friendly. It was my first time using them. I recommend them.
I'll second networkingrus on ebay...I got mine through him and the service was top notch I emailed him over the weekend to verify his stock and he replied right back. It shipped that very next business day.
any tips? anything specific to look for?
if new, then look for descriptions that say the phone is sealed in box, if its just new in box but not sealed then it could've been used and just repackaged to look like new
if used then always look for actual pictures of the phone in the posting, make sure you read what condition the phone is in (scratches or anything) and how long it was used for
the phone should run you anywhere from 350-450
PS: Bought 2 new sealed vibrants off of ebay one for 420 and other for 430
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if new, then look for descriptions that say the phone is sealed in box, if its just new in box but not sealed then it could've been used and just repackaged to look like new...
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That is excellent advice to minimize buyer's risk, which is why phones in that state command a higher price than just "mint" phones in excellent condition. (Like a new car depreciates immediately when you drive it away from the dealer.)
Also, note that eBay has a Buyer Protection Program to help resolve disputes, and it is in eBay's own interest to guard the integrity of its marketplace. That does not mean they guarantee your satisfaction or even that the phone will function properly. But eBay will guarantee that the merchandise shipped meets the seller's advertised description, and "New, Sealed in Box" is an objective standard.
As a buyer I once bought such an advertised phone that did not fit that description as-delivered, and the seller was not cooperative in resolving the problem. So I had to escalate the issue to eBay, which found in my favor and saw to it that my money was refunded when I returned the merchandise. Actually, that's the closest I ever came to being burned on eBay. I think it is less risky than buying from a Craigslist seller.
I paid 350 for a 2 weeks old one (barely used) with the original box & accesories, all in perfect condition. What a sweet deal!
Check the seller's rep. I wouldn't but from anyone with fewer than 40 sales and a 98% pos rep.
Just my .02
Ebay is great, until you need to talk to them on the phone because of a shady seller!
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I really don't want to scare you off ebay, however, with a purchase like this, I would do my ebay research very carefull.
You need to know the truth, the truth is, if you run into a problem, you will have tons of difficulty contacting ebay via phone.
I ask you to do 1 simple thing for me, just 1. Try to find an ebay phone number, search their site, search google, try to find a phone number to talk to a human being. Now, if you are able to find a phone number, call the number, see if you can get through to a human being. It took me almost 3 weeks to find a phone number, I litterly called about 20 numbers all of which were fake, old, no longer active, or put me through loops.
Finally, if you do have a problem, such as you paid for the product and didn't get the item, be ready for another saga that can last a very long time.
I've had a case open with ebay for nearly two months, supposedly ebay had decided in my favor, and I was due a full refund. Guess what, ebay never issued me a refund, the case still says open, 2 months now, no refund.
I would procede with caution, and only use paypal.
But, I beg of you, take my little challenge, try to find an Ebay phone number from their site, then if you eventually find one, see if you can get someone to pick up on the other end.
Good luck.
Always pay with PayPal. Any disputes with the seller, PayPal will back you up. They have a buyers protection program. Look it up on their website. By the way, you dont need a Credit Card to use PayPal, you can link it to your bank account if you prefer to pay cash.
SamsungVibrant said:
I really don't want to scare you off ebay, however, with a purchase like this, I would do my ebay research very carefull.
You need to know the truth, the truth is, if you run into a problem, you will have tons of difficulty contacting ebay via phone.
I ask you to do 1 simple thing for me, just 1. Try to find an ebay phone number, search their site, search google, try to find a phone number to talk to a human being. Now, if you are able to find a phone number, call the number, see if you can get through to a human being. It took me almost 3 weeks to find a phone number, I litterly called about 20 numbers all of which were fake, old, no longer active, or put me through loops.
Finally, if you do have a problem, such as you paid for the product and didn't get the item, be ready for another saga that can last a very long time.
I've had a case open with ebay for nearly two months, supposedly ebay had decided in my favor, and I was due a full refund. Guess what, ebay never issued me a refund, the case still says open, 2 months now, no refund.
I would procede with caution, and only use paypal.
But, I beg of you, take my little challenge, try to find an Ebay phone number from their site, then if you eventually find one, see if you can get someone to pick up on the other end.
Good luck.
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I agree with the poster...to a point. Ive been anebayer for years.
Ebay number? I googled it:
http://contact.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCUPortal&guest=1
Its on the ebay website. Called it too . Current and valid. Long wait time though
I never trust the disputing system on ebay. Slow, almost like they dont care.
However ebay golden rule:
unless you Really truly know/trust the seller....
always pay with a credit card (not visa debit) and using paypal.
Paypal are very quick to deal with fraud/issues and very favorable to the buyer usually (I know, I sell and buy a lot ! ).
Paypal are good if you use a credit card because they are afraid of chargebacks.
Buy from sellers you trust. A good thing to do is simply ask the seller before you buy! They are human too....and if they seem legit (good reason for selling, give you an accurate description of the phone), by all means buy!
I've bought and sold on ebay (internationally):
* logitech mice
* Logitech Keyboards
* Three laptops
* Diamond 1
* Diamond 2
* N82
* N95
* Nexus One
* HTC Desire
* Samsung Captivate
I've had issues but theyve all been resolved on paypal/ebay.
Just my $0.02 and in no way an endorsement or bag-out of anyones comment or services
Oz
I've learned my lesson never to buy anything used that is expensive and mechanically or electronically complex. Good luck with whatever you choose to do!
I've had Good Luck with Craigslist
I've purchased 2 Vibrants and a HTC HD2 from Craigslist.
All three were in next to new conditions and I'm very happy with my purchases. I was able to inspect the phones BEFORE putting up my money. I also require the seller to sign a receipt and provide ID before making the purchase. Can't be too careful in todays world.
I paid $300 each for the Vibrants and $250 for the HD2.
verify that the phone is not stolen. Request the IMEI number from the seller and call T-mobile up to check if the device was ever reported as stolen. I think there is also a website where you can check the IMEI # for its validity....not sure how accurate that is though
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I agree with the poster...to a point. Ive been anebayer for years.
Ebay number? I googled it:
http://contact.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowCUPortal&guest=1
Its on the ebay website. Called it too . Current and valid. Long wait time though
I never trust the disputing system on ebay. Slow, almost like they dont care.
However ebay golden rule:
unless you Really truly know/trust the seller....
always pay with a credit card (not visa debit) and using paypal.
Paypal are very quick to deal with fraud/issues and very favorable to the buyer usually (I know, I sell and buy a lot ! ).
Paypal are good if you use a credit card because they are afraid of chargebacks.
Buy from sellers you trust. A good thing to do is simply ask the seller before you buy! They are human too....and if they seem legit (good reason for selling, give you an accurate description of the phone), by all means buy!
I've bought and sold on ebay (internationally):
* logitech mice
* Logitech Keyboards
* Three laptops
* Diamond 1
* Diamond 2
* N82
* N95
* Nexus One
* HTC Desire
* Samsung Captivate
I've had issues but theyve all been resolved on paypal/ebay.
Just my $0.02 and in no way an endorsement or bag-out of anyones comment or services
Oz
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ummm that link you provided seems to be for australia.
could you possibly post the working number, so we can call and verify it works.
thanks
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ummm that link you provided seems to be for australia.
could you possibly post the working number, so we can call and verify it works.
thanks
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Sure,
Maybe ebay has different policies for Australia...go figure...
If in Aus: 1800 088 741
If overseas: +61 2 8288 0199
Have you tried live help? It has an approx wait time of 15 mins, works only with internet explorer but it is a real live person on the chat line and theyre usually very helpful.
Didnt mean to sound like I was dissing you, I just havent had the same sort of experience that you have and I've been using ebay since I was a mid teen! (I'm in my early twenties now)
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-T-MOBILE-Sa...Cell_Phones&hash=item3cb0e36719#ht_500wt_1154
what do you guys think of this? he claims it's new but there's no box.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/New-T-MOBILE-Sa...Cell_Phones&hash=item3cb0e36719#ht_500wt_1154
what do you guys think of this? he claims it's new but there's no box.
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Home-made photo.
Definitely seems legit. I thought the vibrant only had 2gb built in and 16gb on card.....should clarify that.
The price is a bit steep for a used vibrant with no box. I'd watch it but keep looking around at the same time.
Check this one out , http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...68431&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT#ht_1286wt_916
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
thanks guys. i really appreciate it.
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Home-made photo.
Definitely seems legit. I thought the vibrant only had 2gb built in and 16gb on card.....should clarify that.
The price is a bit steep for a used vibrant with no box. I'd watch it but keep looking around at the same time.
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a microSD-to-SD adapter, and a 2GB microSD card -- provided more to bundle the movie Avatar than to supplement the 16GB that's already on board.
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from engadget
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/22/...ew-shootout-captivate-for-atandt-and-vibrant/
I usually assume new w/o box is stolen or just a used phone they're trying to pass off as new.
Since the 10.1 2014 launched I knew I was going to buy one, I wanted to find a good deal on it though. I got my Black 32GB for $480 shipped! $120 off retail ain't bad.... :good:
What I did:
Go to Amazon and select the Black 32GB, there will be Used ones listed below. Amazon Warehouse is selling "Open Box" ones for $533 in "Good" condition. I looked for one that had the description that said: "Packaging may be damaged" as the only disclaimer. Then during checkout, apply for the Amazon Rewards card and they will give you a $50 gift card instantly that you can apply to the order. You don't even have to use the Amazon card, you just have to apply for it. Free money! I had it shipped with Free 2 day Prime shipping and when it arrived it looked like it never was used. The box had a couple rips on it, thats it. The tablet is in perfect condition.
For my money, I think you can't go wrong.
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If I'm goon NH to open a credit card is rather open one that hat gives me a XXX amount of money as a sign up bonus.
Just saying that's another option.
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yeah I was wondering the same thing OP...
But I always think the ones that were sent back had some problem(right?!)
when the are sent back, does Amazon look into them and like restart and fix the item?! or they just put it in a box and send it to us? is it what's called refurbished?!
anyway another option for me is to wait for black friday...this tablet is a must have for me...so will get it one way or another
Deal Alert
Check out Ebay if you are looking to get one.
ww.androidpolice.com/2013/11/07/deal-alert-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-on-sale-for-569-99-on-ebay-daily-deals-free-shipping-and-tax-only-in-maryland
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Rew482 said:
Check out Ebay if you are looking to get one.
ww.androidpolice.com/2013/11/07/deal-alert-galaxy-note-10-1-2014-edition-on-sale-for-569-99-on-ebay-daily-deals-free-shipping-and-tax-only-in-maryland
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Great find!
But a word of caution to anyone going the eBay route, Samsung will not honor their warranty unless you purchase the device from an authorized dealer.
If you're planning on tripping the KNOX counter with root though, you won't have to care.
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Since the 10.1 2014 launched I knew I was going to buy one, I wanted to find a good deal on it though. I got my Black 32GB for $480 shipped! $120 off retail ain't bad.... :good:
What I did:
Go to Amazon and select the Black 32GB, there will be Used ones listed below. Amazon Warehouse is selling "Open Box" ones for $533 in "Good" condition. I looked for one that had the description that said: "Packaging may be damaged" as the only disclaimer. Then during checkout, apply for the Amazon Rewards card and they will give you a $50 gift card instantly that you can apply to the order. You don't even have to use the Amazon card, you just have to apply for it. Free money! I had it shipped with Free 2 day Prime shipping and when it arrived it looked like it never was used. The box had a couple rips on it, thats it. The tablet is in perfect condition.
For my money, I think you can't go wrong.
Thought I would share the love
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Do you still receive all the perks? Thanks
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yeah I was wondering the same thing OP...
But I always think the ones that were sent back had some problem(right?!)
when the are sent back, does Amazon look into them and like restart and fix the item?! or they just put it in a box and send it to us? is it what's called refurbished?!
anyway another option for me is to wait for black friday...this tablet is a must have for me...so will get it one way or another
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Not necessarily at all. It's like people that buy stuff at Best Buy. They just decide they don't want it and send it back. I have used mine a ton since I got it and it works perfect. So I don't know how it could be a bad one. It's not refurbished, that would have to be done by the manufacturer. This would be constituted as "open box".
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This is a good point and opens up a new discussion. My theory: I think that people are being very dishonest and buying these tablets to simply get the free perks and then are returning them. I mean heck, you get $75 in free movies/music/apps! Mine when I got it still had all the Perks papers in the box. However, when I went to register on the site it said it was already registered. I opened a ticket with Samsung chat today and the rep said that in 2 days I should get an email from an elevated team that will give me the perks. I was very vague in my dialog. I simply said I bought it from Amazon and it would let me register the device on Samsung.com but would not let me register for the perks. He took all my info and left me waiting to hear from the other team. But I have a copy of the chat transcript that says I will get my perks in 2 days. I think they will have to honor that... In any case, I really don't care that much if I don't get them. Honestly all I wanted was this awesome tablet. And for the price I got it, it's a steal. If I get Perks too, then yay for me!
So you could def get lucky and buy one that the person didn't steal the Perks out of... A gamble I guess.
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Not necessarily at all. It's like people that buy stuff at Best Buy. They just decide they don't want it and send it back. I have used mine a ton since I got it and it works perfect. So I don't know how it could be a bad one. It's not refurbished, that would have to be done by the manufacturer. This would be constituted as "open box".
This is a good point and opens up a new discussion. My theory: I think that people are being very dishonest and buying these tablets to simply get the free perks and then are returning them. I mean heck, you get $75 in free movies/music/apps! Mine when I got it still had all the Perks papers in the box. However, when I went to register on the site it said it was already registered. I opened a ticket with Samsung chat today and the rep said that in 2 days I should get an email from an elevated team that will give me the perks. I was very vague in my dialog. I simply said I bought it from Amazon and it would let me register the device on Samsung.com but would not let me register for the perks. He took all my info and left me waiting to hear from the other team. But I have a copy of the chat transcript that says I will get my perks in 2 days. I think they will have to honor that... In any case, I really don't care that much if I don't get them. Honestly all I wanted was this awesome tablet. And for the price I got it, it's a steal. If I get Perks too, then yay for me!
So you could def get lucky and buy one that the person didn't steal the Perks out of... A gamble I guess.
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Make sure you check your gmail under the promotions tab. I thought some kind of funny business was going on with my tablet since I also got the "already registered" message when trying to claim my perks, but it turns out their page for it can be hit or miss (found lots of complaints online). Meanwhile the perks were sitting in my promo folder all along...
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Since the 10.1 2014 launched I knew I was going to buy one, I wanted to find a good deal on it though. I got my Black 32GB for $480 shipped! $120 off retail ain't bad.... :good:
What I did:
Go to Amazon and select the Black 32GB, there will be Used ones listed below. Amazon Warehouse is selling "Open Box" ones for $533 in "Good" condition. I looked for one that had the description that said: "Packaging may be damaged" as the only disclaimer. Then during checkout, apply for the Amazon Rewards card and they will give you a $50 gift card instantly that you can apply to the order. You don't even have to use the Amazon card, you just have to apply for it. Free money! I had it shipped with Free 2 day Prime shipping and when it arrived it looked like it never was used. The box had a couple rips on it, thats it. The tablet is in perfect condition.
For my money, I think you can't go wrong.
Thought I would share the love
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YOU MAY BE OVER LOOKING SOMETHING
Below is a copy of the Standard Limited Warranty and according to the warranty by purchasing it used you don't have a warranty.
So if it was registered........... There goes your savings as you now need to purchase a warranty.
I would buy an extended warranty with damage protection anyway because micro USB ports are known to be fragile and I would want to experiment with root. Still a savings though.
What is covered and for how long?
SAMSUNG ELECTRONICS AMERICA, INC. (“SAMSUNG”)
warrants that SAMSUNG’s devices and accessories
(“Products”) are free from defects in material and
workmanship under normal use and service for the period
commencing upon the date of purchase by the first
consumer purchaser and continuing for the following
specified period of time after that date:
vdc530 said:
Great find!
But a word of caution to anyone going the eBay route, Samsung will not honor their warranty unless you purchase the device from an authorized dealer.
If you're planning on tripping the KNOX counter with root though, you won't have to care.
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is there even a way for Samsung to know where you purchased it? You can technically say it's a gift and they would have to cover you
499 tax free for 16 MB model at Military Exchanges...got mine today, good stuff, except can't play with it until tomorrow...on a road trip right now.
Just an update, I got an email from Samsung today and I got my perks! So I am not sure if the tablet truly was already registered for it or if the site was just having troubles but they sent me codes.
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Be careful I bought one of these last week and it didn't have an s pen. A bit ticked off but amazon gave me credit to buy an s pen at my local store. There's 2 very minor scratch on the bottom but not very noticeable unless you really look. Also some light bleed. Otherwise the tablet is fine. Considering it has some scratch I would assume it was a returned used unit. Still not a bad deal but I'm a bit concerned. I was able to register the device so I'm good with warranty coverage I assume.
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does anyone know if big retail stores(bestbuy,target etc) have discounts for Black Friday or Cyber Monday?! anything for GN 10.1 2014 edition?
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Be careful I bought one of these last week and it didn't have an s pen. A bit ticked off but amazon gave me credit to buy an s pen at my local store. There's 2 very minor scratch on the bottom but not very noticeable unless you really look. Also some light bleed. Otherwise the tablet is fine. Considering it has some scratch I would assume it was a returned used unit. Still not a bad deal but I'm a bit concerned. I was able to register the device so I'm good with warranty coverage I assume.
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Yeah I hear ya, that's why I looked for one that only had the description that said the packaging was damaged. They were right on, my tablet is perfect. Minimal light bleed and not a scratch on it. I think that all units are going to have a little light bleed, its just the nature of the beast. The missing s-pen is a fluke I'm sure.
I am assuming the same things about warranty, they would never know if I bought this used if I am the first one to register it... So warranty should be fine
So I'm in the UK and i bought it on eBay, brand new in July from a seller in Sweden, it's been great but noticed yesterday that something internally has come loose and is moving about (maybe a camera component as it's in the top half)
The seller is giving me the silent treatment so far but i wondered if i would be returning it to them or direct to Oneplus? and where?
Tia!
You'll still be covered by Paypal, so get a claim in ASAP. Also, the IN2020 model is the Chinese variant, so won't be covered by warranty in the UK.
Yes this is what i thought regarding the CH variant, just went through the repair steps on UK oneplus site and looked like it was going to let me return it? didn't complete though as i haven't got a temp phone yet.
A PP claim would involve a full refund tho and i'm not sure i need to do that? Could maybe save some quids though as the 8pro is £70 cheaper now
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You'll still be covered by Paypal, so get a claim in ASAP.
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PayPal will only cover a SNAD (Significantly Not As Described) claim if the fault was already there when the item was first received. It is not a warranty.
In this case the problem developed only a few days ago.
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In this case the problem developed only a few days ago.
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Go PayPal buddy, UK will return it I would have thought, they won't have parts, my OnePlus 5 went to Czech Republic when RMA'd.
Could ask but why should you if it's faulty, you as the buyer are protected way more than the seller, I've learned this the hard way, even though I wasn't at fault
Ok well i requested a return with UK oneplus so will say what they say tomoz.
I mean what will be quicker though? I will have to return it before seeing my money back, then i have to buy another which will take close to a week to arrive, prob not a lot in it i guess? but i suppose i could make the saving as well? :/
So looking at my paypal i bought this on 17th of June.
Which means i don't see any option for returning for a refund? Can't see it on paypal or ebay.
Do i have to contact paypal?
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So looking at my paypal i bought this on 17th of June.
Which means i don't see any option for returning for a refund? Can't see it on paypal or ebay.
Do i have to contact paypal?
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Afaik theres a 6 month fair usage policy globally for goods bought.. Not sure if they have to adhere to this but I'd have thought so.
You don't expect things to go wrong that soon. So you should have a case.
Tbh though they may just fix the device lol (OnePlus I mean)
There are only two valid scenarios for claiming through PayPal - Item Not Received (INR) or Significantly Not As Described (SNAD). Neither of these are true in this case (the phone was received, and was working when it was received), so there is no valid claim against PayPal.
Had the phone been bought from a UK-based seller, then the contract would have been with that seller and they would have been responsible for repair or replacement. I have no idea what the situation is in Sweden, but they may have similar legislation.
The OP may be lucky, and OnePlus UK might repair/replace (although there's no legal obligation on them to do so), but if not then any responsibility sits with the (Swedish) seller of the phone.
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So I'm in the UK and i bought it on eBay, brand new in July from a seller in Sweden, it's been great but noticed yesterday that something internally has come loose and is moving about (maybe a camera component as it's in the top half)
The seller is giving me the silent treatment so far but i wondered if i would be returning it to them or direct to Oneplus? and where?
Tia!
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Wait. So this isn't just the image stabilisation module? Because I feel something loose when I shake my phone too...
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Wait. So this isn't just the image stabilisation module? Because I feel something loose when I shake my phone too...
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Don't think so... pretty sure mine never had anything moving in it? Can some other 8 Pro owners give there's a shake and confirm it doesn't resemble a baby rattle please
And thanks for all the help and responses chaps, eBay user still not replied so still waiting to hear back from OPUK, so we will see and i will keep this thread updated
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Don't think so... pretty sure mine never had anything moving in it? Can some other 8 Pro owners give there's a shake and confirm it doesn't resemble a baby rattle please
And thanks for all the help and responses chaps, eBay user still not replied so still waiting to hear back from OPUK, so we will see and i will keep this thread updated
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Does the rattle decrease when the camera is on?
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Does the rattle decrease when the camera is on?
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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?
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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?
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Yep mine does it.
Was reading about it here some of the samsung forums https://www.bing.com/search?q=phone...8eda50e86fc85f51&pglt=547&FORM=ANNTA1&PC=U531
Honestly I can't remember if mine always did it or not.
Dang, seems fairly common across diff phones then... :/
I have dropped mine a few times while in a decent case so no signs at all from drop damage but maybe this is what dislodged it? They are prob originally held in place with double-sided sticky tape like a lot of components in phones... Whack!!
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There are only two valid scenarios for claiming through PayPal - Item Not Received (INR) or Significantly Not As Described (SNAD). Neither of these are true in this case (the phone was received, and was working when it was received), so there is no valid claim against PayPal.
Had the phone been bought from a UK-based seller, then the contract would have been with that seller and they would have been responsible for repair or replacement. I have no idea what the situation is in Sweden, but they may have similar legislation.
The OP may be lucky, and OnePlus UK might repair/replace (although there's no legal obligation on them to do so), but if not then any responsibility sits with the (Swedish) seller of the phone.
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If someone buys something from via PayPal and it goes wrong a few weeks / months later, there's no case to answer?? That cant be right..
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Haha Yes! but i'm still 99% sure it shouldn't do it? Did yours always do it?
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They all do if mate. It's normal
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If someone buys something from via PayPal and it goes wrong a few weeks / months later, there's no case to answer?? That cant be right..
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You are buying a phone from a Seller. All that PayPal are doing in that transaction is acting as the payment processor. As part of their service, they offer protection to the Buyer against (1) Item Not Received (you pay for the phone and nothing arrives) or (2) the item being Significantly Not As Described (you receive a phone with a broken screen, or you pay for an 8 Pro and you receive an 8, or even an empty box).
They do not offer a warranty - if the item arrives, and it is as described, then PayPal's liability ends at that point.
Any warranty issues (i.e. the phone having problems some time after arriving) are the liability of the Seller and have nothing to do with PayPal. (In some cases the manufacturer will offer an additional warranty and will repair an item directly, but that's a goodwill offer on their part, not a legal obligation).
The complications in this particular case are that (1) the Buyer is in the UK and the Seller is in Sweden, (2) the Seller is not being responsive, and (3) the Buyer has admitted to having dropped the phone a number of times.
Philip said:
You are buying a phone from a Seller. All that PayPal are doing in that transaction is acting as the payment processor. As part of their service, they offer protection to the Buyer against (1) Item Not Received (you pay for the phone and nothing arrives) or (2) the item being Significantly Not As Described (you receive a phone with a broken screen, or you pay for an 8 Pro and you receive an 8, or even an empty box).
They do not offer a warranty - if the item arrives, and it is as described, then PayPal's liability ends at that point.
Any warranty issues (i.e. the phone having problems some time after arriving) are the liability of the Seller and have nothing to do with PayPal. (In some cases the manufacturer will offer an additional warranty and will repair an item directly, but that's a goodwill offer on their part, not a legal obligation).
The complications in this particular case are that (1) the Buyer is in the UK and the Seller is in Sweden, (2) the Seller is not being responsive, and (3) the Buyer has admitted to having dropped the phone a number of times.
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Ah @ 3
that changes things.
fair enough, tbh i've had my fair share of crap as a seller with paypal, they're not the best customer service i've ever had lets put it that way.
Anyway, i think he'll get it sorted via RMA in the uk tbh, i think it'll work.
Or it'll be too late by the time they've fixed it.
Ok, so is dropping it from say 1 to 2 foot is not part general use? Obviously I'm not going to declare this so really it shouldn't be an issue.
I agree that Paypal don't really have a part of this, but if they offer reimbursement/guarantee on this sort of thing then yes i will take them up on that but I'm not going to push it.
Just waiting to hear back from Oneplus...