Anecdotally: Nexus 5x taking better night sight photos than pixel 2 xl - Nexus 5X General

I had opportunity to test out my phone with a friend's pixel 2 xl (stock).
In the park in the middle of the night, almost no light source except for some far away street lights and a flash light.
Took a few photos in the exact same spot (distance and angle too) and I was getting noticeably better photos. (took a few in shots in the same spot to make sure it wasnt some fluke).
Of course, his photos were near instant and 5x took like, 30 secs to process the photo.
Anyways, thought it was interesting and wanted to share.

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Camera exposure and response time

I find the camera takes darker pictures, especially in low light, compared to Note 5 (underexposed perhaps? Not a photography buff at all . Also, the snapping pictures in general seems to be slower vs. Note 5.
Any suggestions?
I currently have both 6p and Note 5 and truly find the Note 5 to have an all-around better camera. 6p but bad by any means, but tough comparing to Note 5.
Been comparing to a friend's note 5.
The note seems to overexpose a tad in lower light.
6p seems like it's a tad darker around the edges, but for the most part is a better match to what the eye sees.
Hdr+ balances everything out, and should be used whenever possible - like always.
It works wonders. This coming from an amateur photographer, well, I have been paid for my work, but I still consider myself an amateur - even after 35+ years of playing with cameras.
Phazmos said:
Been comparing to a friend's note 5.
The note seems to overexpose a tad in lower light.
6p seems like it's a tad darker around the edges, but for the most part is a better match to what the eye sees.
Hdr+ balances everything out, and should be used whenever possible - like always.
It works wonders. This coming from an amateur photographer, well, I have been paid for my work, but I still consider myself an amateur - even after 35+ years of playing with cameras.
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Agree with your assessment. Note 5 can tend to overexpose slightly in low light but overall I find Note 5 pics to be a bit clearer in low light. Even with hdr auto on both. Also agree the 6p tends to be darker around the edges. Biggest concern I have with 6p is length of time to focus/snap picture. Seems far longer than Note 5...
lp1527 said:
Agree with your assessment. Note 5 can tend to overexpose slightly in low light but overall I find Note 5 pics to be a bit clearer in low light. Even with hdr auto on both. Also agree the 6p tends to be darker around the edges. Biggest concern I have with 6p is length of time to focus/snap picture. Seems far longer than Note 5...
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Only been playing with the new 6p for a couple days, but so far it seems pretty instantaneous.
Point, click, there's a picture - and in focus.
Been very very happy with the camera so far.
With HDR off the shutter is crazy fast, pretty much instantaneous. I keep auto HDR on because the HDR on this phone creates truly amazing results. If your phone is shooting HDR there is a little bit of a lag when taking a photo but not terrible. I'll take the slight lag of the HDR because the increased image quality far outweighs it.
As for underexposing images, I don't think there is any issue there. Keep in mind that the screen on the 6p is calibrated very differently than most devises. I notice images look underexposed on my phone's screen but on a computer screen or another device they look fine. I have adaptive display on so it is dimming the screen making the image look darker than it really is.
Look at the histogram of the photos if you want to see the dynamic range and the actual exposure info. In low light my 6p is very good figuring out the exposure. The histogram is obviously on the darker side if I take a photo in low light but there isn't any clipping at all under reasonable low-light. In extreme situations, like a photo in the middle of the night with only one light source, then the shadows clip but they would with any camera. What is really impressive is the lack of noise!! Usually when you have full black on a cell phone pic you get a ton of noise but the 6p is pretty good at just letting it go black rather than trying to overexpose.
The dynamic range with the HDR on is really impressive. Even extreme contrast like indoor photos with a bright window in the background won't clip in the highlights.
I am having a blast testing the limits of this camera.
nonnasmyladie said:
With HDR off the shutter is crazy fast, pretty much instantaneous. I keep auto HDR on because the HDR on this phone creates truly amazing results. If your phone is shooting HDR there is a little bit of a lag when taking a photo but not terrible. I'll take the slight lag of the HDR because the increased image quality far outweighs it.
As for underexposing images, I don't think there is any issue there. Keep in mind that the screen on the 6p is calibrated very differently than most devises. I notice images look underexposed on my phone's screen but on a computer screen or another device they look fine. I have adaptive display on so it is dimming the screen making the image look darker than it really is.
Look at the histogram of the photos if you want to see the dynamic range and the actual exposure info. In low light my 6p is very good figuring out the exposure. The histogram is obviously on the darker side if I take a photo in low light but there isn't any clipping at all under reasonable low-light. In extreme situations, like a photo in the middle of the night with only one light source, then the shadows clip but they would with any camera. What is really impressive is the lack of noise!! Usually when you have full black on a cell phone pic you get a ton of noise but the 6p is pretty good at just letting it go black rather than trying to overexpose.
The dynamic range with the HDR on is really impressive. Even extreme contrast like indoor photos with a bright window in the background won't clip in the highlights.
I am having a blast testing the limits of this camera.
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Can you please explain to me the slowest shutter time of the nexus 6p with a third party app? Currently I have a Oneplus 2 and I can get up to 30 seconds which is a lot. My Oneplus 1 even had 60 seconds. Can I have these values with the nexus 6p or through a mod?
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HDR for action shots

I keep HDR+ on all the time since it takes better looking shots. Should I turn it off for action shots? Wouldn't it cause blur?
It *can* cause blur. How likely, it depends on how "action" the shots are you're taking.
For those that don't know, HDR or High Dynamic Range, takes three photos in quick succession, one very low contrast, one normal/auto contrast, and one very high contrast. It then layers the three images on top of one another to produce a very decent photo with very good definition and range. Because it's taking three photos quickly, if a subject is say, skating down a hockey rink, it can cause blur as photo 1 and photo 3 are technically different, even if only slightly.
Back in the day of iPhone 4S, each photo took 0.8 seconds to take, so three photos is almost 3 seconds apart, and a lot can happen in three seconds. I lost an entire vacation to New Brunswick because of the shadowing and blurriness.
From what I can see on my Nexus 6P however, it takes all three photos in less than or equal too 0.5 seconds. Can it cause blur? Yes, but 0.5 seconds or less is a major difference than 3 seconds.
From my testing, here's two photos (thanks to Claire for being a good sport!). Both of these photos had HDR forced to On, not Auto.
The important thing to remember is in this frame of reference, the camera and Claire were less than 10 feet away from one another, therefore the distance traveled in the 0.5 seconds the camera was taking the photos, a lot of relative movement took place. If we increased the distance between camera and Claire, then the frame of reference is much smaller, less movement takes place, and therefore, sharper pictures.
My recommendation, keep it set to Auto, not On or Off, and let the phone decide. It actually takes them with HDR on at all times, only the software decides to either layer them together, or keep only the "normal contrast" photo mentioned above.

Post pictures taken with your XL

Couldn't find a thread that has a collection of people's photos, so here we are
Nice photos, I've taken a few so far and have to say I'm pretty impressed!
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Took this one yesterday afternoon (used lens blur)
Shot a few more today, mushrooms were shot in very low light but have come out pretty nicely. Auto on for all shots, not been touched in anyway.
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The whiskey/water was the first pic I took on the phone. I used the built in blur feature for it.
Other than the first pic, with the blur, non of these pics have been touched or edited in any way.
Shot of the drinks and dogs are in fairly normal lighting.
I was at a huge all weekend concert this last weekend and these are two of my favorites.
Stage and the sky were taken around/just after dusk.
Close up of the stage was pitch black outside. Not zoomed in, just how close I was to the stage (seeing Tool for the second time ).
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Here are some low-light photos for your scrutinization pleasure. . .
And some more. Took multiples of the pirate skeleton for comparison purposes.
Had anyone tried taking a photosphere yet, I tried it earlier and it is incredible how well the phone can stick together a full spherical photo, it is going to look stunning with the daydream headset on!
One of mine.
Just a quick shot of a bubble.
The picture with the cats is in low light. The other was in my parents bathroom.
Drive to work and casserole for our potluck today
Took these today.
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One original and then the snapseed edited version. I do love this phone!
Playing with lens blur.
These are two of my favourites so far. No editing or filters. Just point and shoot
Took the kids to a Halloween event at the zoo today.

Nexus 6 vs Pixel 2XL picture I took

I went to the Verizon store like many and did a side by side picture of my Nexus 6 next to the pixel 2XL. The phone was great but I have to say I thought the colors on my Nexus 6 looked better. I felt like the colors on my Nexus 6 had more contrast and felt more vibrant. Hmmm. Still not cancelling my pre-order though LOL. I'm mostly excited for the camera upgrade.
I also took a picture of a wall with a lot of colors to compare the 2 phones. Nexus 6 image first, then 2XL. These two pictures were quite comparable in quality I felt. I think where the Pixel 2 shines is the portrait mode and being fast.
When comparing the screens, consider this (from here):
If you're coming from an iPhone, you're not going to have a problem with the display at all. You're going to love it. The people that report that the display is "washed out" come from a display that over-saturates the display, which is pretty much every other OEM out there that uses OLED displays, with Samsung being the main "offender". Google, like Apple, are targeting color accuracy on the Pixel 2. The colors on the Pixel adhere to sRGB and support wide color if an app calls for it. The Pixel 2 is definitely pushing a more serious tone with their decision of targeting sRGB,
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the nexus feel alot wider in picture
how is the hand handling VS the nexus 6
Man so much screen real estate lost with this new aspect ratio.. also those corners...hmm
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The camera won't be even close between the two for most photos. I think the Verizon store example offers lighting and subject that is about as easy as it gets for a camera to capture, and even then the photo from the nexus 6 looks purple. Wait until you take photos outside on a sunny day, or an overcast day, or in low light, or with fine details or skin tones.
abogrhen said:
the nexus feel alot wider in picture
how is the hand handling VS the nexus 6
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I feel like it looks very close in size visually, but once you hold the pixel 2xl, even with the verizon security sensor on the back, you can tell its going to be easier to thumb tap with 1 hand. I'll miss the added screen size on the n6, but the camera will more than make up for it for me personally.
ryancell said:
I feel like it looks very close in size visually, but once you hold the pixel 2xl, even with the verizon security sensor on the back, you can tell its going to be easier to thumb tap with 1 hand. I'll miss the added screen size on the n6, but the camera will more than make up for it for me personally.
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Both phones have 6 inch displays. The Aspect ratio has changed from 16:9 to 18:9 now, which should make the screen taller and narrower on the Pixel 2 XL than the Nexus 6 so one handed operation reaching the other side of the screen should be easier, but reaching the top should be slightly harder.....
Can you post any additional photos. I would buy pixel if there is very noticeable difference in quality, I don't mind if HDR is much slower on N6 and yes I don't care about front camera. I have to say N6 with HDR makes very good photos so to buy pixel I need to be sure is worth it.
All Nexus 6
I'm still quite impressed about the Nexus 6 camera, I know we know how the pics are, but when I sent some of those to my friends, they are also impressed, even owning 2017 phones.
I also would like more comparisons with the Pixel 2 if anyone with both can provide!
Febag92 said:
I'm still quite impressed about the Nexus 6 camera, I know we know how the pics are, but when I sent some of those to my friends, they are also impressed, even owning 2017 phones.
I also would like more comparisons with the Pixel 2 if anyone with both can provide!
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I agree the Nexus 6 is capable of taking great pictures.
The problem is it's much slower to focus, to take, and process HDR+ pictures compared to the Pixel/Pixel 2. In the day time, wouldn't see much until pixel peep at full res. In night time, the Pixel/Pixel 2 will blow away the Nexus 6. The Pixel/Pixel 2 handle moving objects much better too. The Pixel/Pixel 2 cameras are just reliably great in every situation.
Visi0nofExcellence2 said:
I agree the Nexus 6 is capable of taking great pictures.
The problem is it's much slower to focus, to take, and process HDR+ pictures compared to the Pixel/Pixel 2. In the day time, wouldn't see much until pixel peep at full res. In night time, the Pixel/Pixel 2 will blow away the Nexus 6. The Pixel/Pixel 2 handle moving objects much better too. The Pixel/Pixel 2 cameras are just reliably great in every situation.
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100% true, just because of slower HDR+ and night poor quality photos is difficult to drop 600£ for new pixel 2. Pixel 2 XL is 700 adding terrible LG quality...google will have to drop price significantly
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100% true, just because of slower HDR+ and night poor quality photos is difficult to drop 600£ for new pixel 2. Pixel 2 XL is 700 adding terrible LG quality...google will have to drop price significantly
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Exactly why I chose to pick up a brand new, original Pixel for 400.
With the Pixel/Pixel 2 the camera experience is such a great experience; even if not into photography you'll find yourself taking more pictures, more often.
stinger4321 said:
Man so much screen real estate lost with this new aspect ratio.. also those corners...hmm
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I completely agree on the screen size. I HATE this new aspect ratio and can only pray that it's a fad. I need a 7-8" tablet with a good camera, current processor and a cellular radio.
I had pixel 2 xl, absolutely hated it. Screen is bluish at a tiny angle, rounded corners, dim screen, expensive as he'll, crappy aspect ratio, and when you tap with your finger in the middle section of the screen - phone makes hollow sound. Wait till pixels are $200, perhaps only then pixel hardware disaster will be worth it. Got Nexus 6, looking forward to it. Optical image stabilization with decent software is what makes such terrific pictures possible.. First gen pixels do not have OIS...
anterus said:
I had pixel 2 xl, absolutely hated it. Screen is bluish at a tiny angle, rounded corners, dim screen, expensive as he'll, crappy aspect ratio, and when you tap with your finger in the middle section of the screen - phone makes hollow sound. Wait till pixels are $200, perhaps only then pixel hardware disaster will be worth it. Got Nexus 6, looking forward to it. Optical image stabilization with decent software is what makes such terrific pictures possible.. First gen pixels do not have OIS...
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The original Pixel doesn't need OIS. It has a big sensor and pixels. Better HDR+ algorithm too.
Nexus 6- 5.867 mm, 1.12 μm
OG Pixel- 7.81 mm, 1.55 μm
It's able to pull in more light without having to go to super low shutter speeds. OIS can't help the Nexus 6 in this battle. The sensor isn't nearly as good. Yea it's possible to take decent shots in low light with the Nexus 6 but it'll require manual mode- meaning more effort.
If pixels do not need OIS, why was it added on second gen of pixels? OnePlus 5t also has large sensor, but its pictures are crap anytime the hand shakes tiny bit.
I recently upgraded my trusty Nexus 6 to a Pixel 2 xl and can honestly say, it was the right choice. It's easier to hold in one hand and so far, not having any of the issues I've read about. The bluish tint is not as bad as I thought it would be but is still there. It's the first google phone that I've bought right after it came out. Great phone!

Share the pictures taken with Pixel 3a and 3a XL

Hi guys,
All those of you who own these new pixel 3a and 3a XL . Please share photos taken with pixel 3a and 3a XL in all conditions.. Just wanna see how these midrange pixel competing with big boys
One of the first pics taken with my Pixel 3a.
My punkass 3 year old.
stevew84 said:
My punkass 3 year old.
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Nice photo mate :good:
Rajaasim1980 said:
Nice photo mate :good:
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Thanks. He wasn't even yelling, I just told him I wanted a picture and this is what he did.
stevew84 said:
Thanks. He wasn't even yelling, I just told him I wanted a picture and this is what he did.
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Its good pose by him :laugh: I always prefer a camera which is good in capturing photos of moving kids . Many mobile camera review just post pics of static objects but in real life you mostly take photos of pets, children , portraits etc
Rajaasim1980 said:
Its good pose by him :laugh: I always prefer a camera which is good in capturing photos of moving kids . Many mobile camera review just post pics of static objects but in real life you mostly take photos of pets, children , portraits etc
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Thanks. Yeah, I need to start taking more pictures.
Two from UK
This camera is amazing - especially the night sight. Here are two sets of images taken around my house. My old phone (Honor 8) doesn't do a horrible job and it shows pretty well how much light there was (or wasn't) there. The Pixel 3a picture is simply amazing however and the amount of sharpness and detail is incredible considering how dark it really was. All images are "straight out of the camera" and no editing or processing was done by me.
These images are taken in my dining room. There is light spilling in from the Den (left side) and the china cabinet in the corners (right cabinet is visible, but there is a similar cabinet on the left side too).
Honor 8
Pixel 3aXL
These images were taken of a bedroom in my house. There are no light sources in the room and the only light is spilling in from a ceiling light in the hallway. The shadow on the right side of the bed is actually from me standing in the doorway to take the picture with the hall light behind me.
Honor 8
Pixel 3a XL
You do need some light for the night sight to work. I tried to take an image in basically no-light conditions and the picture came out black. But if there is even a small amount of light, the night sight mode does an amazing job of increasing the exposure all while keeping the amount of noise relatively low.

			
				
Here is another one with night sight on the 3a:
Nothing but good pics
Haven't really had a chance to go around and shoot photos, just kinda testing
That street shot was nearly complete dark, night shot
Sunrise
Here's one from our kitchen window
sic0048 said:
This camera is amazing - especially the night sight. Here are two sets of images taken around my house. My old phone (Honor 8) doesn't do a horrible job and it shows pretty well how much light there was (or wasn't) there. The Pixel 3a picture is simply amazing however and the amount of sharpness and detail is incredible considering how dark it really was. All images are "straight out of the camera" and no editing or processing was done by me.
These images are taken in my dining room. There is light spilling in from the Den (left side) and the china cabinet in the corners (right cabinet is visible, but there is a similar cabinet on the left side too).
Honor 8
Pixel 3aXL
These images were taken of a bedroom in my house. There are no light sources in the room and the only light is spilling in from a ceiling light in the hallway. The shadow on the right side of the bed is actually from me standing in the doorway to take the picture with the hall light behind me.
Honor 8
Pixel 3a XL
You do need some light for the night sight to work. I tried to take an image in basically no-light conditions and the picture came out black. But if there is even a small amount of light, the night sight mode does an amazing job of increasing the exposure all while keeping the amount of noise relatively low.
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we should use flash in complete darkness when there is no light but result for night mode is excellent
My 3.
I am a bit concerned how over processed the basic snapshots are with P3a. Then I discovered .raw. Now I can over process my photos just the way I want in both Lightroom and Snapseed. Lol
#nofilters !!
Not bad. Anyone know what the dxo score is?
I haven't taken many pics but here are a few. It's really detailed
https://i.imgur.com/McPsG7j.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TY3ewmB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/mEgMOLn.jpg
I haven't taken many either, but here's one of my dogs playing Where's Waldo...
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Picture of my cat. Semi dim room with the lamp behind me

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