Switching away from MI A1. Which phone to go for next? - Xiaomi Mi A1 Questions & Answers

Hi,
I think it is kinda my fault, but this is the second time my screen broke from just 6 inch drop. And last service centre kinda screwed up the back panel so now camera gets dirty from inside.
Now, I am thinking instead of fixing the screen and back panel again, it is better to move to new device. Obviously Android one is a priority but not a big deal. I want to just find a phone with super fast charging and decent cpu for less than 20k INR. Couldn't give a crap about camera or selfies to be honest. So, I am focusing on oppo r17 pro and vivo v15 for now. Although I heard about mi's 100w charging. Is there any phone with that tech coming out in next few weeks? I guess I can hold off on the purchase till next month easy.
Anyway point is, I am looking for suggestions on a better phone to switch to. Something that doesn't bother with cameras and focuses on raw power or battery instead.

I'm looking at the Mi9 at this point. My Mi A1 is on the verge of unusable now. Battery still drains 30 to 40% overnight since android Pie and now my on-/off-button has decided to open my camera most of the time or just do nothing the remainder of the time. My GPS seems to always think that I'm driving on top of buildings or just doesn't find a signal. Apps like Google Maps have become so laggy that I can't even type text in the search bar.
Android Pie really ruined this device for me.

I would go for Pocophone f1.

I'd suggest the Mi 9t, or wait for the Mi Max 4.

My A1 is still perfectly fine, but I keep an eye open for a possible replacement. Android One and easy bootloader unlocking is a must for me, so this rules out almost all manufacturers. Nokia looks promising, but their stupid policy with bootloader unlocking prohibits any custom development. Pixel 3a is just a bit too expensive and doesn't have a SD card slot. I guess I'll just wait for Mi A3.. If I wouldn't care about root and related stuff, I would surely pick something from Nokia line.

Jt380p said:
I'd suggest the Mi 9t, or wait for the Mi Max 4.
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Why the Mi 9t? I feel like it's not as good as the Mi 9. What makes you move in that direction?

The issue is that price of phones are getting higher and higher everywhere... I first thought I would not buy Xiaomi anymore, but now when my A1 dies I'm thinking Mi A2 or hopefully A3 by then, if it's not too expensive (or A2/3 lite).
Android One is a must for me, I don't want any MIUI sh*t on my phone

denisval said:
Why the Mi 9t? I feel like it's not as good as the Mi 9. What makes you move in that direction?
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Because he stated under 20k?? (400aud)

denisval said:
I'm looking at the Mi9 at this point. My Mi A1 is on the verge of unusable now. Battery still drains 30 to 40% overnight since android Pie
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mine drain 1-3% maxim overnight.
i think will be better if you found the source of consume and optimize your phone.

denisval said:
I'm looking at the Mi9 at this point. My Mi A1 is on the verge of unusable now. Battery still drains 30 to 40% overnight since android Pie and now my on-/off-button has decided to open my camera most of the time or just do nothing the remainder of the time. My GPS seems to always think that I'm driving on top of buildings or just doesn't find a signal. Apps like Google Maps have become so laggy that I can't even type text in the search bar.
Android Pie really ruined this device for me.
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I'm looking at the Mi 9T right now. It's so damn hot. My Mi A1 is usable but not suitable for my developer stuff. Battery is OK, surprisingly no issues there. My power button is also nearly unusable, double or triple clicks 80% of the time, I feel your pain. My GPS also doesn't work like at all. It takes so much time to lock, it just constantly shows that I'm in my house, when I'm for example driving on a trip, 200+ KM away from my home city. In these moments it doesn't even know it doesn't work and sometimes it takes so long to lock location (I'm talking 10+ minutes) that I just end up asking someone else to give me their phone to check where am I. The device isn't laggy overall but the eMMC write speed has degraded 2-3 times and sometimes I get a significant stutter (unusable point) for something like 1-2 minutes until it fixes itself and continues working as usual.
Overall pretty great as a 1.5 year old budget phone, my past experiences have been worse. I'm looking into the Mi 9T.

_mysiak_ said:
My A1 is still perfectly fine, but I keep an eye open for a possible replacement. Android One and easy bootloader unlocking is a must for me, so this rules out almost all manufacturers. Nokia looks promising, but their stupid policy with bootloader unlocking prohibits any custom development. Pixel 3a is just a bit too expensive and doesn't have a SD card slot. I guess I'll just wait for Mi A3.. If I wouldn't care about root and related stuff, I would surely pick something from Nokia line.
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Couldn't agree more.
I'm waiting for Mi A3/A3Lite but I'm afraid I'm going to lose some of the features that made me "fell in love" with MI A1:
-Optical zoom
-SD card
-FM radio
-3,5 mm jack
-easy unlock method
-selling price <220$ (200€)
If Xiaomi will make a 2019 mid-range smartphone with these features (and possibly add some useful stuff like OIS or wide-angle camera) I'm going to buy it at day one.
But I don't think it's gonna happen

ZenFone 6 looks great. Fairly stock and amazing top specs

alsheron said:
ZenFone 6 looks great. Fairly stock and amazing top specs
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500€ here in Italy. I won't spend over 250€ for a phone.

For €250 you can either buy used phone or something from Xiaomi, Meizu and similar companies that sell cheap phones. If you like to put Custom ROM, look for a phone with good dev support.
I don't know, maybe RN7 Pro if you can get it...Or wait for Mi A3, it should be awesome phone and price is speculated to be around 280 USD which is around 250 Euros.

_mysiak_ said:
My A1 is still perfectly fine, but I keep an eye open for a possible replacement. Android One and easy bootloader unlocking is a must for me, so this rules out almost all manufacturers. Nokia looks promising, but their stupid policy with bootloader unlocking prohibits any custom development. Pixel 3a is just a bit too expensive and doesn't have a SD card slot. I guess I'll just wait for Mi A3.. If I wouldn't care about root and related stuff, I would surely pick something from Nokia line.
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Personal Advice: Don't get a Nokia phone. I thought the new Nokia keep their phones overpriced because you're paying for quality and support. Not the case. I recommended Nokia phones to a few relatives, all got problems. Ranging from not charging from time to time, to much bigger stuff like not receiving notifications from messaging at all, even resetting the device and disabling battery optimization.
Many may disagree with me but Nokia phones, even ones part of Android One, are in fact NOT stock Android. It looks like Stock Android but it doesn't *feel* that way. There are soo many changes under-the-hood, the phone works worse than it should with "stock" Android. The software, as pure as it is, has sooo many glitches and I just don't know why. Updates fix and break things constantly. How can you mess up stock Android?! How does that even happen?!
At least in my opinion, Nokia phones from HMD Global bring tons of headaches and aren't reliable at all. Add the ultra high prices for what you get and it becomes the brand to avoid in all cases. Better just get another Android One. The best Android One phone right now IMO is the Motorola One Vision. Performance is little on the weaker side but is still 2x better than Snapdragon 625 and not much worse than a Pixel 3a. Otherwise the phone has an SD card slot, really solid cameras (again, subjective but photos seem excellent to my eye), good battery life, super attractive design with that hole punch, 21:9 screen and the ergonomic body and all that comes for a price right around 300 Euro (even less in some markets).

Thanks for the advice and warning. I will check Motorola in more details, just hope that it isn't as big as other Motorolas which I was considering before (at least I remember them being large ). Mi A1 is probably the biggest form factor which I accept. In fact I would prefer smaller phone, but such aren't really being produced anymore (or they're so crippled in HW that it doesn't make sense to buy them).

_mysiak_ said:
Thanks for the advice and warning. I will check Motorola in more details, just hope that it isn't as big as other Motorolas which I was considering before (at least I remember them being large ). Mi A1 is probably the biggest form factor which I accept. In fact I would prefer smaller phone, but such aren't really being produced anymore (or they're so crippled in HW that it doesn't make sense to buy them).
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Mi9 SE is a very good phone and it's not so big, but it lacks 3.5mm Jack and SD card. And it's not Android One.

_mysiak_ said:
Thanks for the advice and warning. I will check Motorola in more details, just hope that it isn't as big as other Motorolas which I was considering before (at least I remember them being large ). Mi A1 is probably the biggest form factor which I accept. In fact I would prefer smaller phone, but such aren't really being produced anymore (or they're so crippled in HW that it doesn't make sense to buy them).
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I have checked the One Vision in person and compared to my Mi A1 it's even smaller. It's the same height but it's narrower.

Vision one looked fine, until I found this post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/one-vision/help/restart-unlock-t3933674
I know that many phones have bugs, especially soon after their release, but bootloop just because of using fingerprint unlock or changing the default USB mode is a show stopper for me.
I will check the development progress from time to time, hopefully there will be TWRP and Magisk available soon and fixes to stock ROM. Luckily I am in no hurry to move from A1 at the moment, so I'll wait for A3 as well.

_mysiak_ said:
Vision one looked fine, until I found this post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/one-vision/help/restart-unlock-t3933674
I know that many phones have bugs, especially soon after their release, but bootloop just because of using fingerprint unlock or changing the default USB mode is a show stopper for me.
I will check the development progress from time to time, hopefully there will be TWRP and Magisk available soon and fixes to stock ROM. Luckily I am in no hurry to move from A1 at the moment, so I'll wait for A3 as well.
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Come on! It's just one minor bug, don't act like A1 didn't have like million of these. It will surely be fixed in the next update. The One Vision is a great phone and I personally think Mi A series don't have anything to impress me anymore. In fact my next phone is NOT going to be an Android One. I'm more of a Xiaomi fanboy, so I'll go with the Mi 9T. I love MIUI, as weird as it sounds. But for people who need stock, I still recommend the One Vision.

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-Discussion- Mi Mix 1 Vs Pixel XL (thinking about leaving :'( )

Sighh.. so guys, i had my mi mix for about 6 months and i loveD this phone. but i feel like its come to the end of the line already.
MIUI is basically unusable for me, missed notifications, calls missed by delay of ring & late notifications, group texting is horrible, camera image processing sucks, OS crashes etc. (all this before rooting mind you)
But after rooting all of those issues went away....for a bit.
so since day 2 i had it rooted running lineageOS and switched to RR, but 3 months later and up til today i started experiencing:
Slight screen burn
Constant OS Crashes/Random Reboots
Cell Signal dropping in areas that it didnt while running MIUI
Still bad camera image processing
Call Audio dropping extremely low when volume is Maxed
Bluetooth disconnects while my phone is in my pocket (didnt happen on MIUI)
and several other things.
I work in I.T. and cant have some of these things happening while at work.
I started looking at alternative devices and since the Pixel 2 is too dang much for my pockets I'm considering the Pixel XL.
I hate that the screen is 5.5 inches over my 6.4 but I need something nice that works. I'm wondering if i left if I'd be happy or nah?
Personally, the screen real estate and battery life the mi mix provides are too good to leave for a mere 5.5 inch phone. Also, I'd rather have 1080p over 1440p as I consider it a waste. I don't mind the lcd over amoled, I love the screen just fine, and I don't take lots of pictures so I'm not really bugged by the camera. Overall I consider the pixel xl an ugly ass phone and think it'd be crazy to change your beautiful and futuristic mi mix with that humongous display for an ugly small screened phone that doesn't even have a better processor. Hope it helped
manupa14 said:
Personally, the screen real estate and battery life the mi mix provides are too good to leave for a mere 5.5 inch phone. Also, I'd rather have 1080p over 1440p as I consider it a waste. I don't mind the lcd over amoled, I love the screen just fine, and I don't take lots of pictures so I'm not really bugged by the camera. Overall I consider the pixel xl an ugly ass phone and think it'd be crazy to change your beautiful and futuristic mi mix with that humongous display for an ugly small screened phone that doesn't even have a better processor. Hope it helped
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what are ur thoughts on the G6 or Huawei Mate 9?
The way you are talking you seem to have made up your mind already.
I find it odd though that I'm not experiencing any of the symptoms you mentioned.
My guy u do realize your 1 in the possible thousands of people that own this phone correct? Nobody's device is perfect. This is what I'm experiencing personally not the whole mi mix end user list. The only thing I have made up in my mind is that my phone isn't gonna last forever as my daily driver because of these issues so I'm seeking suitable alternatives before I make the jump.
Get the oneplus 5t, it will be coming soon and has a newer processor than the pixel xl. Or s8+ if you can get it for a decent price in whichever country you're from.
I've always rooted and modified whatever phone I've had and I can say I love miui it's smooth it's fast it has built in theme support which is what I mainly rooted for I'm sorry you've had issues u gave miui only 2 days before u jumped ship I would flash stock miui 9 from epicrom and see if issues resolve before downgrading to pixel XL....but with the recent software improvements and price drop essential phone should be a consideration before pixel XL it's newer it has SD 835 and screen size you're used to and at 449 u can still get 450 for mi mix easy and be out no money just my .02
gtshiftin6 said:
I've always rooted and modified whatever phone I've had and I can say I love miui it's smooth it's fast it has built in theme support which is what I mainly rooted for I'm sorry you've had issues u gave miui only 2 days before u jumped ship I would flash stock miui 9 from epicrom and see if issues resolve before downgrading to pixel XL....but with the recent software improvements and price drop essential phone should be a consideration before pixel XL it's newer it has SD 835 and screen size you're used to and at 449 u can still get 450 for mi mix easy and be out no money just my .02
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Appreciate the reply! I'll give this a shot, although I dont see why stock android wouldnt give me a better experience than MIUI. I used to love miui back in versions 6 & 7, and im not saying its bad now but i just had a bad experience with it on this device. but ill definitely give it another go!
rappa619 said:
Get the oneplus 5t, it will be coming soon and has a newer processor than the pixel xl. Or s8+ if you can get it for a decent price in whichever country you're from.
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Thanks ! im in the USA, but i was trying to stay around that 500-600 price point, the S8+ is kinda pushing it being as though its $724.99 over here. the one plus is definitely a contender for the future though
I would try a few other ROMs before getting a different phone. AICP has been rock solid for me now for months.
One issue your having is the custom roms - I tried them all and more or less they all get buggy over time [some more than others]. I run stock global and its has next to never crashed [fc'ed], call quality is fine and carrier permitting the notifications [network related ones] show up fast / local ones never get missed.
Two the pixle only has a camera that's better, screen is worse more or less - storage is A LOT worse and you don't even really get a more durable device.
Been using mine as my daily driver since I picked it up in late Jan 2017 - its really never failed me as long as I didn't go rooting / fiddling with things. That brings me back to something I mentioned awhile back in another post. Miui doesn't like to be tampered with - roms based on this tend to become unstable [been using miui roms since 2008 or so and the behavior has never really changed]. The non miui roms are stable enough until you go messing with them too [especially visually]. In addition to that many of the custom roms seem to leave things out, often little things but they add up to annoyances.
Its your money - but the Pixel isn't the one I would go for if your looking to replace this thing. Its not that good a phone. Look at the Mate 9 / 10 series or some other designs.
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
albertoduqe said:
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
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Mi mix 3 looking good.
james1089 said:
Mi mix 3 looking good.
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LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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albertoduqe said:
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
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Well, we have AOSiP that is going to be updated to oreo soon, and the new notification system in the MIUI developer rom made me have interest in MIUI again.
I agree that the development is poor (although the ones that do/did develop are/were awesome) and its sad to see developers leave but Im proud to own the device that pioneered the bezeless screen and even does it better than the modern flagships (and the MI MIX 2 ) and it is the most beautiful brick in the world.
My plan is to wait for oreo from AOSiP and meanwhile try the MIUI developer rom again with the new notification system (I cant afford a new phone so I have no other choice ).
About alternatives, I think the honor v10 is a great alternative (low price and great hardware and software) Although there is almost zero development in xda for this phone (because of the kirin processor) but EMUI is now great after the EMUI 5 update and huawei phones are a part of the first phones that got the oreo update so the support from huawei is good.
But In my opinion the best alternative is the OnePlus 5T and I think I dont have to explain why :laugh: .
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LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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It does, but plenty of believable sites also mentioned this device.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/12/xiaomi-mi-mix-3s-alleged-back-cover-case-surface.html
Konstantine34 said:
LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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Have you seen the Samsung version of that concept? Same full screen and they're saying maybe out by 2019 Galaxy Z phone is what it may be called
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omerbagi10 said:
Well, we have AOSiP that is going to be updated to oreo soon, and the new notification system in the MIUI developer rom made me have interest in MIUI again.
I agree that the development is poor (although the ones that do/did develop are/were awesome) and its sad to see developers leave but Im proud to own the device that pioneered the bezeless screen and even does it better than the modern flagships (and the MI MIX 2 ) and it is the most beautiful brick in the world.
My plan is to wait for oreo from AOSiP and meanwhile try the MIUI developer rom again with the new notification system (I cant afford a new phone so I have no other choice ).
About alternatives, I think the honor v10 is a great alternative (low price and great hardware and software) Although there is almost zero development in xda for this phone (because of the kirin processor) but EMUI is now great after the EMUI 5 update and huawei phones are a part of the first phones that got the oreo update so the support from huawei is good.
But In my opinion the best alternative is the OnePlus 5T and I think I dont have to explain why :laugh: .
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Yeah more or less in the same spot. Still waiting and hoping for the guys behind AOSiP, AICP and Viper to bring Oreo to the Mix And maybe some new developer to get the phone and play around with it a bit.
The OP5T does look cool, probably the best value right now in the market. Maybe similar to Mix 2 although dev support is probably better for OP devices in general.
One thing about new notification shade: it is supposed to be there in the 7.12.8 beta (only china beta) , but it is not there in the same release of xiaomi.eu... Haven't tried official MIUI but I find it strange that it is not in the xiaomi.eu mod. Know something about it?
Searched miui forum and read changelogs and stuff and didn't actually find anything clear on the matter. And no official global beta since 7.5.25 I believe...
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It does, but plenty of believable sites also mentioned this device.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/12/xiaomi-mi-mix-3s-alleged-back-cover-case-surface.html
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Yeah, back cover seems OK but that full display screen is kinda fairy tale. I and some were expecting Mix 2 to come as +6,4'' screen with less bezels and it became worse. So I keep my expectation about the display screen a bit low.
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Have you seen the Samsung version of that concept? Same full screen and they're saying maybe out by 2019 Galaxy Z phone is what it may be called
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Didn't see it yet. Samsung perhaps does a bit better job over unlimited screen but they cut from edges and put it to top/bottom. Jeans' pockets are not capable to make them fit lol. What a PITA.
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Konstantine34 said:
Yeah, back cover seems OK but that full display screen is kinda fairy tale. I and some were expecting Mix 2 to come as +6,4'' screen with less bezels and it became worse. So I keep my expectation about the display screen a bit low.
Didn't see it yet. Samsung perhaps does a bit better job over unlimited screen but they cut from edges and put it to top/bottom. Jeans' pockets are not capable to make them fit lol. What a PITA.
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https://youtu.be/uuYcR7daXRs you can check it out here, it almost looks identical to what is seen in the mi mix video excluding the three cameras on back
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original One plus 5T leaked [is it worth to upgrade]

This is real One plus 5T before launch
https://youtu.be/E3Bko4sBgmM
As you can seen above , there aren't any surprises when it comes to the design of the OnePlus 5T. Just as most rumors predicted, the handset looks a lot like the Oppo R11s, sporting a 6-inch AMOLED display with 1080 x 2160 pixels and an 18:9 aspect ratio.
The OnePlus 5T measures 156.1 x 75 x 7.3 mm and weighs 162 grams. Thus, despite its larger display, the new handset is not much larger than the OnePlus 5 (154.2 x 74.1 x 7.25 mm), and its thin bezels certainly help in this regard. Another design change concerns the fingerprint scanner, which now sits on the rear of the phone (whereas the OnePlus 5 has a fingerprint sensor embedded on the front).
Large screen and rear fingerprint sensor aside, the OnePlus 5T offers pretty much the same features as the OnePlus 5, including a Snapdragon 835 processor, a dual rear camera with Portrait Mode, a 3300 mAh battery, and Oxygen OS based on Android Nougat. Things haven't changed when it comes to memory, either, so the 5T has two variants: 6 GB of RAM + 64 GB of storage space, and 8 GB of RAM + 128 GB.
Is it worth to upgrade from one plus one?
As long as our Bacon keeps running faithfully, why would there be a reason to upgrade? It still runs anything we throw at it and has all the functionality most people need. Let's face it, how revolutionary is the smartphone market today? Cameras get upgraded, there's some more power, they get an exaggerated amount of RAM (anyone had any memory shortage on Bacon yet??) and so on.
That said, OnePlus still releases bang for your buck. But so does Xiaomi, Honor, Motorola, ZTE, Huawei... OnePlus may still have the best development community though. That would be the most important reason to stick with the brand for me.
So yeah, if your hardware is starting to fail, it'll definitely be worth the upgrade. But I wouldn't do it just for the sake of updating.
Sizzled with Bacon ?
I don't like the idea that it will come out with Android 7.1.1 and not 8.0.
This will cause unnecessary frustration to buyers. I imagine they have to undergo a period of beta testing until the Oreo update will be ready. Not cool considering the price and the time of the release.
Nope cause less then 6 month from now Oneplus gonna release another flagship and by then you will wonder why you bought the phone in the first place...what make matter worst is that every Oneplus phone since OP3 have only 4-5 month of production before it stop completely to give way for other model in their line up...that can be consider the shortest production timeline ever for a flagship
Timmmmaaahh said:
As long as our Bacon keeps running faithfully, why would there be a reason to upgrade? It still runs anything we throw at it and has all the functionality most people need. Let's face it, how revolutionary is the smartphone market today? Cameras get upgraded, there's some more power, they get an exaggerated amount of RAM (anyone had any memory shortage on Bacon yet??) and so on.
That said, OnePlus still releases bang for your buck. But so does Xiaomi, Honor, Motorola, ZTE, Huawei... OnePlus may still have the best development community though. That would be the most important reason to stick with the brand for me.
So yeah, if your hardware is starting to fail, it'll definitely be worth the upgrade. But I wouldn't do it just for the sake of updating.
Sizzled with Bacon ?
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I also had the same mentality as you, until recent and i decided to opt for the 3t.
i once thought the opo was smooth, fast and still with it (maybe not with games but i dont play them)
I also thought the camera kept up as well as everything else, mate i even thought it charged fast!
Lemme tell you, everything and i mean everything has changed pretty drastic.
from fluidity to even how smooth the glass it. I didnt think it was possible but somehow it is!
Even OOS is slick. Was constantly flashing different roms on the opo trying to find a well rounded rom but every single one had at least 1 issue, whether it be using the CM camera hal, or if it had the notification bug (notifications didnt come through instantly when device was locked) or even if it was shocking battery.
NO regrets to upgrading :good:
I still love the OPO, checking XDA for it more than the OP3T
We should also consider that we are in the verge of a new era with bezeless screens, new 120hz refresh rate technology, wireless charging will spread rapidly in public places and transportation thanks to Apple, new more accurate & more power efficient GPS chips, devices that will support Android 8 out of the box will also be completable with Google project Treble, and maybe fingerprint readers under the display, so think carefully before you go and spend 600$.
Not having Android 8 out of the box for OnePlus 5T will make me wait for OnePlus 6 or take a better look at Google Pixel 2XL. What other phones have Oreo oit of the box? Thanks!
And here we have a way better view of the phone in a new unboxing video
https://youtu.be/fFQ-5pb9eik
frankzappatistas said:
We should also consider that we are in the verge of a new era with bezeless screens, new 120hz refresh rate technology, wireless charging will spread rapidly in public places and transportation thanks to Apple, new more accurate & more power efficient GPS chips, devices that will support Android 8 out of the box will also be completable with Google project Treble, and maybe fingerprint readers under the display, so think carefully before you go and spend 600$.
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Agreed. :good: . That 120Hz is a welcome addition to the market IMO. I'd love to use a phone with that smooth scrolling . Though, I am not sure about wireless charging. You can't use your phone while charging. That tech must evolve to an "Ambient Charging", or something like that :cyclops: .
Specs in that leaked set of photos are wrong. Both cameras have f/1.7 Aperture and same focal length, which makes no sense.
So, I doubt whether we should assume it has Nougat.
I was thinking of getting the 5T as a work phone and keeping the OPO with my personal sim card. Do you think it's a good idea? I was also considering the xiaomi Mi Mix 2 or Mi 6. Another option would be to buy another OPO for 120€, since I'm sure the community will continue supporting it for a long time.
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I was thinking of getting the 5T as a work phone and keeping the OPO with my personal sim card. Do you think it's a good idea? I was also considering the xiaomi Mi Mix 2 or Mi 6. Another option would be to buy another OPO for 120€, since I'm sure the community will continue supporting it for a long time.
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If you aren't in desperate need of two phones,I'd suggest "NO".
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If you aren't in desperate need of two phones,I'd suggest "NO".
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Not so desperate, but I actually need a second phone in the nex month.
zalamandra said:
Not so desperate, but I actually need a second phone in the nex month.
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If your budget permits,you can consider it.
frankzappatistas said:
We should also consider that we are in the verge of a new era with bezeless screens, new 120hz refresh rate technology, wireless charging will spread rapidly in public places and transportation thanks to Apple, new more accurate & more power efficient GPS chips, devices that will support Android 8 out of the box will also be completable with Google project Treble, and maybe fingerprint readers under the display, so think carefully before you go and spend 600$.
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EXACTLTY! That's why I bought ZTE Axon 7 for like 200 USD from China now. It has front facing speakers, amazing DAC and QHD AMOLED, OP5T has none of them. I had OP5 for a day and sold it - because of PenTile the screen IS LESS SHARP THAN OPO's! It was pissing me off so much I could not stick with the phone, OP5T gonna be the same. Big things are coming, better wait for them if you can - especially Treble and this 120Hz displays - they say it is whole another level of fluidity. My Axon will be arriving in two weeks or so, and is getting official Oreo in December, it has official Lineage and others too. Perfect device for to wait for OP6/OP6T.
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mate i even thought it charged fast!
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What charger are you using? Mine takes about 5 hours to charge. Fine for overnight but if I run it down, I've got no phone for the rest of the day.
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What charger are you using? Mine takes about 5 hours to charge. Fine for overnight but if I run it down, I've got no phone for the rest of the day.
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That ain't normal, change your cable. Took me about an hour, 1.20h ish. I was using the cable from my wismec rx75
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What charger are you using? Mine takes about 5 hours to charge. Fine for overnight but if I run it down, I've got no phone for the rest of the day.
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Are you using original charger and cable?
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Are you using original charger and cable?
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No. I think that one is just as bad, if not worse. The 5 hours has gone down a bit though, 3.5 if I'm lucky now. I have just changed the battery so that might be a reason for the improvement.
geronphillips said:
No. I think that one is just as bad, if not worse. The 5 hours has gone down a bit though, 3.5 if I'm lucky now. I have just changed the battery so that might be a reason for the improvement.
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It is strongly recommended that you use original cable and charger.
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It is strongly recommended that you use original cable and charger.
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You say that like my phone's going to explode. The original cable is about 70cm and only charges 100ma faster than my 3m cable so I'll probably stick to the long one for now. I'm fairly sure the original plug was only putting out 0.2A last time I used it (and I can't find it) so that's also a lost cause. I'm not sure why the original charger would be so much better anyway. USB is standardised so I assume the recommendation is just Oneplus trying not to get sued for other manufacturers' dangerous chargers.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I like it but I don't love it, especially because videos are horrible in 4k and stabilization is very bad
Tempted by this phone. Currently have a OnePlus 5t, but love Xiaomi phones and MIUI. Not sure whether to jump on this or hold out for a Mi 8 SE.
L0cke said:
Tempted by this phone. Currently have a OnePlus 5t, but love Xiaomi phones and MIUI. Not sure whether to jump on this or hold out for a Mi 8 SE.
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Go for the 2s, no notch and the hardware is the same as the M8
L0cke said:
Tempted by this phone. Currently have a OnePlus 5t, but love Xiaomi phones and MIUI. Not sure whether to jump on this or hold out for a Mi 8 SE.
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I also used to own a 5T and just sold it for a Xiaomi mi mix 2s.
As someone who LOVES stock android, Oxygen OS will always be my favorite mobile OS. After owning 3 different OnePlus Devices, it was hard to go for a Xiaomi....
But the Mi mix 2s has been an AWESOME device so far. Battery life is on par with my 5t. The screen is incredible , the no bezel design is beautiful and I think it is best done on the Mi mix 2s. ( I hate notches). Although it is not amoled, the screen is very good and it works great. MIUI is not as snappy as Oxygen OS, but its still light years ahead of touchwiz and Crapsung experience.
I personally really like wireless charging, and its nice to have it on the Mi Mix 2s. The phone design is my all time favorite. I love the weight of the ceramic and It is hands down the best looking device I have ever seen. However not having a headphone jack is absolute ****.....Dont get me started on that.
The back 2 cameras are stellar and its the main reason I went with the Mi Mix 2s.... As someone who rarely uses the front camera, the quality is really good for a 5mp shooter, but if you are someone who uses it a lot, this phone might not be for you....
Overall, if you can find it for $500usd or less, I think this is the best phone for the price on the market. :good:
I just wondered about something that i saw in xiaomi's forum,i wrote a poat and i was rly angry of this bug collection that i bought(mix2s) and 1 answer just came and said we didnt launch mi mix2s in india and we cant help you????
im not indian, i was just set the region th india th get updates and im from iran!!!!
the phone have just 1 thing, the camera and every thing else about it is disappointing.
i wish i had bought a samsung like always but i wanted to try some thing new, and i made my worst choice in my life.
sometimes when u unlock the phone its take about 5 6 7 secs to load when switch between spaces it will kill u buy laaaags and delay
im really tired if this **** in my hands ????
and i will not ever never post anything on xiaomi forums.
daWINchi said:
I just wondered about something that i saw in xiaomi's forum,i wrote a poat and i was rly angry of this bug collection that i bought(mix2s) and 1 answer just came and said we didnt launch mi mix2s in india and we cant help you
im not indian, i was just set the region th india th get updates and im from iran!!!!
the phone have just 1 thing, the camera and every thing else about it is disappointing.
i wish i had bought a samsung like always but i wanted to try some thing new, and i made my worst choice in my life.
sometimes when u unlock the phone its take about 5 6 7 secs to load when switch between spaces it will kill u buy laaaags and delay
im really tired if this **** in my hands
and i will not ever never post anything on xiaomi forums.
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Bug collection??? ?????????? Funny, i bought this phone 5 months ago and no bug whatsoever. I love it, its fast, nice display, great battery, great camera, beautiful and unique design, its the total package for me ??? for 400€ in europe its unrivalled, and right now can be bought for 350€ wich is just incredible compared to everything out there ???
Beautiful phone
yes, looks great!
but recently xiaomi broke modem software and as phone is not much usable
still looks good, especially when You need to use older phone to call someone.
ninikninik said:
yes, looks great!
but recently xiaomi broke modem software and as phone is not much usable
still looks good, especially when You need to use older phone to call someone.
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If only the bezzel (with the front camera) would be on top, it would be a great phone.
I usually give goog things for granted so focusing on the bad:
bottom selfie camera
shiny-way-too-slippery ceramic back (would love a mate version)
no widevine L1 support
no microSD
no 3.5 jack
About the last two dont care so much since i have bluetooth earphones and got an OTG flashdrive (couldnt get the 128 GB version cause out of stock).
ceramic and widevine are not so bad but the selfie camera just kills it. Is such a hazzle to use. if you use it as is you get a massive neck/chin resulting in an awful perspective, and if you rotate the phone say bye to fingerprint shutter and forget whatsapp video call.
Just as someone said before, like it, yeah, love it, NOPE
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Yep, I needed to to that several times before to be connected before discovered that this was broken in early 2019 ROMs.
Phone with regular OTA updates and stable official ROM is just unusable, that forced me to unlock and flash. It's shame to brake main functionality of device :/ You can't expect from users to force them to flash phone. You should not force them to use old ROM to make or receive call.
I replaced my old phone to get decent camera, speed and B20 connectivity, but was sure to still have basic gsm, bt and wifi fuctionalities. Yep, cam was not broken
For $300 brand new I have no complaints. Was looking for a notch less phone with a decent camera and good battery life, this phone hits the spot. I rarely take selfie so I don't mind with its front camera. Oh and it has snapdragon 845 chip.
help me anyone mix 2s user
my phone is brick with lockbootloader i tried to flash via miflash (point test) but unlucky have no authorized account someone please help to fix my mix 2s >.<:angel::crying::crying:
I'm very happy with this phone. I bought it new two months ago at a very good price (128gb version), and I'm using it with Nova Launcher and all the Google apps I can manage to install on it instead of the Xiaomi ones (I don't like them). I have no complains so far: no lag, good amount of RAM to keep my apps working in the background, nice screen (right now I still prefer a good IPS versus any Amoled), nice cameras.
And for the odd placement of the selfie camera, I just have installed a little app called 'Rotation' and with a touch in a widget, it forces full rotation so I can turn the phone it to put the camera in the upper, and all will rotate accordingly (android himself, and all the apps). If anything, the selfie camera himself could be better (more angle and better resolution, like the Mi 8 one).
I purchase Mi9se, I use for 2 months and I return it to amazon, because the screen lag...
I write fast and every time the phone just do nothing...
I remember the POCO, I use like a week and I return it....
With mi9se almost have the same issue... Is not software is the screen...
So, I buy this Mix 2s, the only think I don't like is the weight but I understand it...
The poco was 180g, the Mi9se 155g and my old Mi5 127g , Mix2s 190g is heavy but with the weight the you will have to take care more your phone every time...
I don't like Notch, I prefer water drop or nothing..
I like a phone the size of your hand not more.... Like the new phones, are very BIG..
Is like to have to DICKS °lol sorry
Its been 3 days with my Mix2s and I feel fine
I obviously liked it better Mi9se(6gb/64gb) $ 350USD less weight and better cameras, AMOLED...
But I don't care, for the price I pay is fine... 6gb/128gb - $ 312 USD mexico
Mi Mix 2s 6/64
Is this still worth it in 2020? Its currently around €150
AleksandarAce said:
Mi Mix 2s 6/64
Is this still worth it in 2020? Its currently around €150
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Could you please send the link?

Buyers remorse

Bit of a rant and discussion.
I've bought this phone 4 days ago and was so happy with it's performance, look and general experience with it. Long have I waited for a phone to have a fairly powerful chipset like the Snapdragon 660 at an affordable price point to finally retire my Nexus 5 which has started failing on me and needed a replacement ASAP.
When I saw that I could pick this phone up for 240 euro for the 64GB version I thought that it was a decent upgrade over my beloved Nexus and that given that it is an Android One phone, it wouldn't be all that different from a Nexus. What I mean by this is update timely support for 2 years and security updates for another 1. Also, being that it's just as easy to unlock the bootloader as on the Nexus, I was expecting that the dev support would be nearly identical, specially at this price point.
Given that this is my first Xiaomi device, I was not aware of the time it took Xiaomi to release it's kernel source hindering the dev support at the device's prime. But all this wouldn't be as much of an issue since I mainly planned to stick with the stock ROM and root it to get a couple of more features that it doesn't have by default as well as use a couple of apps that make my life a bit easier and when the source lands, we would have it at the devices EOL so that the support could continue. For the whole two days, I was happy with this agreement until I found out about Xiaomi's newly anounced Poco F1. I had heard about this phone on the day that I've bought my A2, but dismissed it because of the rumored price of 400+ euro.
The announced phone has everything that this phone lacks for me which is a 3.5mm jack, memory card slot and a 1000 mAh bigger battery. On top of that, it has that sweet, sweet Snapdragon 845. To top all that off, it's promised that the kernel source code will land upon launch of the device on 29th August which along with the equally easily unlockable bootloader makes me think that the Poco F1 should've been the real successor to my Nexus. Digging a little bit I've found out that the Xiaomi phones are actually officially supported for quite some time by Xiaomi but that the base android version can be old. At the announcement of the F1 they promised to solve the base not being updated thanks to project Treble.
Now, when I was buying this phone, I was very budget conscious and the 240 euro at this point of the year was a bit of a stretch for me given the vacation part of the year, but I really needed a phone and thought that the 20 euro over the 220 price of the 32GB was worth it. Now, the F1 is announced at 300$ in India which would translate to 300 euro in my country, probably (waiting for the launch in Europe). That is another 60 over the A2, but you get so much better specs. Even tho the A2 is a lot more premium than the F1, given that I'm coming from the Nexus 5, you know where my heart is when it comes to "premium vs performance" thing. I'm not much of a camera guy, just need a decent one and both have great cameras but I am an audiophile and I quite enjoy the output out of the A2. The speakerphone lacks a bit of bass but it is very loud (specially compared to the Nexus 5) and the headphone output, even being a bit clunky with the USB Type C adapter thing, is really good. Looking at the keynote, I've seen that the F1 should have a good DAC for the headphones, but I've read that the front facing dual speakers are a bit tinny which is not an issue, just as long as the quality and clarity is acceptable given that for any high quality audio I would resort to headphones anyway. Only things that I'm not a fan on the F1 is the notch at the top and the curvature of the edges of the screen. The notch can be turned off without loss given that the display is larger than the A2 for the notch, but you're still left with those huge curves at the bottom edges.
Now having said all of this, I'm really tempted to sell my new A2 in favor of the F1. Are there any reasons or benefits to sticking with the A2 instead of switching over to the F1 that I'm missing?
I would greatly appreciate your opinion on this matter.
i think you're overthinking and greatly underevaluating the a2 official support.
the f1 has just one problem, miui. and yes, you can fix that by unlocking and getting a custom rom. eventually.
it launches at the end of august, there will be at least another month before you can pick one up in europe at a decent price.
then you need to wait for an actual custom rom official ish team to pick it up, another 1-2 months before it's good enough for daily driver usage. ow wait christmas already?
or you could do what you did already and enjoy your phone, the a2 isnt a bad phone at all!
i got one too, saw the f1 news and i dont feel the same way at all. in europe it's gonna sell for at least 350euros. asuming you ever find one in stock.
if you really want to, mosr eu retailers will refund you fully within 30 days of your purchase you could return the a2 and wait for the f1, i wouldn't but it's an option...
p.s. i also think that even though the 845 is faster, the 660 is fast enough. perhaps even a 636 would be plenty. i find it hard to justify high end chips honestly.
p.s.2 and yes the f1 is gonna break the high end phones market. xiaomi will probably sell as many as it can make and big oems will have to think hard and strong before offering a phone that costs over 500 euros
All I can add is that there will ** Always ** be phones with better specs just around the corner. Did I say Always?
Phones can do so much now, which is good, but making a decision and being satisfied with it is increasingly difficult. I too have a
Nexus 5 (and 5x) in the past. The 5 I still have as a backup, has LineageOS on it and is doing great.
The most difficult thing for me is determining what I really need (separating it from what I want), and then finding a device that fits.
I love that the MiA2 is android one. It's basically Lineage, which is perfect for me. Does it make Network connections quickly? Absolutely, and very
strong connections at that.
Sufficient ram and rom? Works great for me... Snap660 is all I need, with what I do... Unlockable? perfect. Treble? perfect. Decent Camera? absolutely.
So my checklist is... sparse I know. But why pay for more than you need? Oh they'll sell it to you! And they're happy to make you believe you need it!
But what do you need? really?
That's the tough question to answer.
Those two answers above hit the nail on the head perfectly. I love my Mi A2 as it gives me everything I need in a phone.
i love my a2 too but slow storage is on the down side
copying 2 gb file takes 5 min
flashing the phone via edl mode takes 1200 seconds
Sure, sort of. On the one hand, the overall better specs of the F1 has me feeling like I missed out. On the other, though - I knew ahead of time that whatever phone I'll end up getting will be an Android One phone, so... that takes the F1 out of the picture, anyway. Also... I doubt the F1 will still cost ~300USD outside of India.
For a very long time I messed around with custom ROMs, rooting, etc. With the 5X I started feeling like I'm not missing much by not going that route. The most important thing for me is that the company whose reputation is on the line (in this case, Google - since Android One, and all) pushes out security and feature updates in a timely manner.
I also vehemently agree with the notion that "something better is always around the corner" - getting the latest and greatest is a game you'll always lose, unless you have a lot of disposable income. But then we wouldn't be comparing the A2 and the F1, would we?
Think about it this way - imagine what the Poco F3/F4 will bring in two-three years time, when we're due for an upgrade!
A bit OT but it's funny to see how many n5x users are gathering in the mia2 thread ^^ I'm very happy about my mia2 I was concerned about the battery but I get now about 6 hours SOT and that's all I needed. On top of this, the camera is really great. I think that in a few months we will have real nice devices with all we need anted from a phone. ???

MI A2 - good choice?

Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
Don't go for it
tobben said:
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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Not fot LOS now but u get install PE or etc. now
Also i guess it will get LOS support later
rajuray795 said:
Don't go for it
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What else can you suggest?
I'm using the mi a2 for a month now, and I love it, it's fast, the bugs are minor (and it was fixed for me in the january update) so there is no reason to not buy it.
I recommend it!
tobben said:
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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For me, it's worth it, although some user reported some issues but mine is good so far, almost 4 months now..
About LOS, A2 still doesn't have official build or official support yet, maybe soon.. But A2 already got official Pixel Experience rom which is better than stock in my opinion.. You can try other rom like Havoc or Pixys, if you want more customization
And I think you should wait a bit more for Redmi Note 7, it's a bit better than A2, based on the spec sheet
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_7-9513.php
Thanks. I dont want to wait - i need a new phone now. Redmi 7 global is not aviable yet and when its aviable community roms will also take time.
What is with security level in the a2 - is it possible for me to use the tan generator app from my bank ... n ooted phones the app dont starts ....
I am baffled 2irh the idiotic replies here. Nothing to back them up just don't go for it and put.
I change my phone's about 2 times a year and I love the latest Galaxy phone's as of the s7 and s8 with the latter being my favorite phone of all time, but I also like to use budget phone's of time to time to see how they compare. I have used one plus one, OnePlus 3, xiaomi mi a1 mi a2 some Huawei mate series the max series etc. And let me tell you that this phone is equals in terms of quality to most of the phone's I have used sometimes it even exceeds my expectations.
The phone one flaw is the camera, BUT if you are not a camera head you won't notice the difference that much in your day to day casual photos. Now I do notice it but I also use DSLR and come off a expensive phone with amazing camera, but even in my case I don't mind it it is not bad it is ... Just meh or ok.
The software is amazing, it is not perfect as montly security updates slowly become less and less with time, but it is Android ... What can you expect. Yet I have rearlt expiriqnced any bugs or problems with my xiaomi mi a1 or mi a2.
Build quality is equals with all yestaryear high end smartphones (I am saying yestaryear because it is a metal phone not a glass phone). To be fair there is zero difference with a 1000 USD USD phone at all.
These phones are amazing. I don't understand how ppl can sit here and complain about anything about these phones. And when you add in the price... Pffff. Best bang for buck.
I'd recommend to get the 6GB ram version phone for longer future proof if you like to keep your phone snappy for longer and/or to keep your phone longer in general.
Go foe it mate
tobben said:
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i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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Yeah get it, it won't disappoint you
Hello
No worries on my side with this phone
tldr: if you plan for custom roms get a redmi or poco f1. mi a2 is meant to be used stock.
it's biggest problem for banking apps is the lack of nfc.
with mi a2 you pay extra for android one (included in the phone price). if you dont want the official support(stock) then get a phone that doesnt include this.
if you want a better android one go for a nokia
Using this phone for 4-5 months and it's been pretty good. However one downside I would say is the battery. If you're a heavy user it will be pretty tough to make it to a day without charging (especially gaming). Otherwise no issues.
AB_98 said:
Using this phone for 4-5 months and it's been pretty good. However one downside I would say is the battery. If you're a heavy user it will be pretty tough to make it to a day without charging (especially gaming). Otherwise no issues.
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I second that. Battery for me has been a killer with light use of 3 days no charge and heavy use a day with zero issues. Optimisation is key but you can easily get 5+ sot easy.
PS: I do not game on my phone I work on it and with it. So that might be something I cannot comment on.
I can recommend this for the price if you like android one. If you can pay more pick a pocophone (it's day and night)
As almost everyone has said, it is a good phone, specially for the price. Coming from a Nexus 6P I was happily surprised by the performance, I can play quite a few GameCube games on Dolphin and games like Tekken, FIFA, Asphalt 9 and Horizon Chase run really well. I haven't tested Fortnite nor PUBG, cause those are not my type of games, but I've seen videos where those run fine. The only downsides are the battery (could be bigger, but it can last a day with moderate use) and the lack of Camera2Api support out of the box. If you value Android One, this is a great phone, you could check some Nokia phones but those tend to be a bit more expensive. If you don't care about MIUI, you can get a Redmi Note 5 Pro or 6 Pro, or the Mi 8 Lite. Those have similar specs, bigger batteries and might be cheaper or the same price.
It's awesome phone for that price ... Especially if you flash some custom rom and root ...
I'm not thrilled. using it for a few months now. general speed is ok. unfortunately bug fixes (including maxed out CPUs) and updates are not xiaomi's priority. you get what you pay for i guess. (even though the hardware is ok for that price)
also: hands off Nokia of you ask me. check out the anger in their Nokia 8 forum for example. they are treating their customers worse than any other company.

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