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[Q] Stable CyanogenMod for Verizon Note 3

I'm very interested in switching from my stock Verizon Note 3 ROM to CyanogenMod, but after a great deal of research I cannot tell with absolute certainty if http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Hlte_Info is the correct ROM for use with my Verizon Note 3. Is it the correct ROM?
Additionally, if http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Hlte_Info is the correct ROM for use with my Verizone Note 3, how do I work around their posted notice as follows? Such as, are there specific instructions for using ODIN?
"If you've applied the 4.4.x update to your hlte device, it is possible heimdall will have communication issues with your device. This is a filed bug already on the heimdall page and this warning will be removed when it is resolved. In the meantime, ODIN still works."​

Karine said:
I'm very interested in switching from my stock Verizon Note 3 ROM to CyanogenMod, but after a great deal of research I cannot tell with absolute certainty if http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Hlte_Info is the correct ROM for use with my Verizon Note 3. Is it the correct ROM?
Additionally, if http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Hlte_Info is the correct ROM for use with my Verizone Note 3, how do I work around their posted notice as follows? Such as, are there specific instructions for using ODIN?
"If you've applied the 4.4.x update to your hlte device, it is possible heimdall will have communication issues with your device. This is a filed bug already on the heimdall page and this warning will be removed when it is resolved. In the meantime, ODIN still works."​
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If you are on RETAIL VZW N3, there is NO WAY to have anything but a stock or cutsom stock ROM.
If you are on a DEV EDITION VZW N3, check here.

I have the retail Verizon Note 3, and all other resources I've encountered indicate that the link I provided is a universal ROM for all Note 3.

Karine said:
I have the retail Verizon Note 3, and all other resources I've encountered indicate that the link I provided is a universal ROM for all Note 3.
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That is universal for the international versions, which there are many. Without an unlocked bootloader, we cannot flash aosp, aokp, or cm based roms.

The bootloader issue is what prevents compatibility with the CM installer, but I don't believe it prevents ROM flashes through other means. And I've seen several threads that specifically state that universal covers Sprint, Verizon, etc.

Karine said:
The bootloader issue is what prevents compatibility with the CM installer, but I don't believe it prevents ROM flashes through other means. And I've seen several threads that specifically state that universal covers Sprint, Verizon, etc.
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Ok. And why isn't this info blowing up the Verizon Note 3 forums? If I'm wrong, I'll admit that. But many smarter people that me have stated time and time again that it's not going to work. And I have seen no information that will lead me to believe otherwise. Can you provide links to where it's being stated we can flash this?

That's why I'm here, to sort whether it will work as all the information available seems unclear and split.

Ok, I got ya. There is info burried here. But as I understand it the ability to install custom roms requires an unlocked bootloader. When we got that leak of kk nc2, we obtained a locked bootloader the had a few "holes" in it (for lack of a better term). With that bootloader, there is the possibility of some exploits that can be applied in order to give us the ability to flash a cm rom amongst other things. But we're not there yet.
Best I can give you is to watch this thread for any news or development:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2812650

Many thanks for the link.

I'm gonna back up Lefty here.
The retail version has a locked bootloader, which means we can't install a custom recovery or an alternate kernel, both of which are required to install non-touchwiz ROMs. (Not the case for the dev edition, which you would know if you had)
This is Verizon's doing. Samsung will provide phones with unlocked bootloaders to cellular companies, but verizon wants them locked down. I believe the only US company that sells bl-unlocked phones is T-Mobile. Lots of international carriers are bl-unlocked.
CM is mostly "universal" across ALL devices, because its based on AOSP straight from Google, and just has to be tweaked slightly for hardware differences. That's why CM builds for a note3 are "universal" -- the hardware is all the same. This comes at a price... last I've heard, the s-pen is just emulated as a mouse input, which is a bastardization of the technology. This is just an example. There are several compromises to running AOSP roms.
Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Thanks for the great information. It's a shame that Verizon or anyone else locks the bootloader. It should be no matter to them what ROM I run.

SM-N910W8 Custom ROM Help (Rooted and TWRP installed)

Hey XDA I have rooted and installed custom roms on various android devices in the past, and am now working on my Note 4.
I have it rooted and TWRP installed , but am now unsure if I need to flash a different modem or bootloader. I understand that the Canadian variant uses the T-Mobile Roms.
I am looking to install CMRemix http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/development/rom-cmremix-rom-v2-5-12-23-14-t2981479 which is a T-Mobile Rom.
Will I simply download and flash it or do I need to do extra work first?
Thank you, and I apologize for posting this question. I was slowly going crazy after searching the forum for these things to no avail!

I figured it out. I checked by bootloader and it was up to date. I was having issues with Odin, but after reconnecting the USB cable 6 different times it finally picked up my phone in Downloading mode!

No worries. It seems that the N910W8 is basically the same hardware as the N910T3.
In the same way the Note 3 T-Mobile was the same as the Note 3 Canadian variant.
No need to worry about modems assuming yours is up to date.
Although, I must admit that while CM Roms tend to have interesting features, they lack support for some of the built-in hardware, and the battery life has been inferior in my own experience.
You should check out Temasek's CM versions.
Have fun

Clarity on what root is required for

Hi,
I've done fairly extensive flashing (and bricking and modding on my LG g2 but gather things have changed a bit and am a little unsure if root actually required to flash a ROM like superman etc that is based on Samsung stock?
Or is root only required to install recovery, xposed and non stick ROMs?

Any ROM that has been modified in the least bit will be a custom rom.
Superman has some of the base Samsung stock programming, but very little.
Also, Superman, again like most other roms, will be rooted from the start. It gives not only the developers, but the end user much more flexibility and control over the entire OS.
You do not need to be rooted before loading a custom ROM. But, you will need to have the Bootloader unlocked, the proper custom rom ready to go.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge
That should get you pointed in the right direction.
But, before you start loading, make sure that the firmware you're installing is for YOUR exact s7 edge, hardware and model specific.
There are two distinct hardware versions, the Snapdragon and the Exynos.
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge-model-numbers-differences/
The link above will help you identify what brand and hardware version your edge is.
The same is true for official Samsung ROMs. Hardware and model are a huge factor in what ROM is compatible, but carrier is another factor that now comes into play.
The letter (or letter/number) that comes after the model number is a carrier specific phone.
Sm-935T is an S7 Edge, T-mobile carrier. Sm-935v is an s7 edge, Verizon carrier.
Each carrier specific model has different programs and cell network embedded in the ROM.
If you have a 935v, but have T-mobile as your current carrier, you can load the 935t rom on your 935v, unrooted.
But, Before you do that stuff, make sure to look through the XDA forums to get all the info prior to starting.
Having this information before you begin could mean the difference between a working phone or a shiny paper weight.
Tapatalk for Android - Works awesome on my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge

Bootloader unlocked, can I use any rom?

So Ive had this Verizon Note 3 since day one. Finally unlocked my bootloader... What are the rules on what I can and can't do now. Can I install any Android rom? Can I only install note 3 roms from any carrier... Can I install only Verizon note 3 roms? Or is it a hybrid... I can install any rom if I replace the firmware and or modem.
I really want something on 7.1 but I'd rather take 6 and have something custom... Fast and responsive.
Thanks community.

You are in luck. :crying:
There's hardly anything to choose from; maybe 3 or 4 ROMs and about the same number of kernels.
AFAIK, there are no Nougat ROMs and only one Marshmallow ROM (AryaMod6.6).
Normally, when a dev ships a "ROM", there are two important pieces: the /system image (what some folks call "the ROM"), and the boot image. The boot image is what some folks erroneously call "the kernel"; but it is really a combination of kernel + ramdisk. The ramdisk has all the scripts in it that the "init" process reads to start up all the low-level daemons and services... as well as the Android UI as well.
The kernel is very tightly tied to the specific hardware in a given handset - both the processor/gpu and all the sensors/leds/peripherals.
So that's the reason you can't just flash any old ROM. In the least bad case, your device wouldn't boot; in the worst bad case the kernel would boot up far enough go off in the weeds and possibly damage some of your hardware.
You might be tempted to think "we'll, what if I find a boot image for the "hltevzw" SM-N900V device... can I flash that after I have flashed 'any old Android ROM'? Won't that take care of things?"
Well, not really. The system library binaries in /system are possibly compiled with instruction-set optimumization tweaks that are only supported by specific CPU and GPU hardware chips. Moreover, other peripheral chips such as GPS have unique "downloadable" vendor firmware in the system image... so again, there's the issue of hardware dependencies of the /system image.
Beyond that, there's carrier-specific "setup and activation" software that differs between ROMs, so even using ROMs that are from a different carrier's version of the exact same handset hardware might not work fully - specifically in the telephony function areas. Everything else might work fine though. For instance if you wanted to use the device as a WiFi-only unit for kid's games etc.
Note BTW that the "International" Note 3 GSM phones are not the same hardware - they use an Exynos processor.
good luck in your quest

Thanks
That was very helpful... Looks like Araya is my best bet. I'll leave jasmine rom to try it.
I was hoping that I could get another note 3 rom on this forum and flash the CDMA modem for networking... But doesn't seem like that's an option.
If I'm still stuck to Verizon Note 3 rom... What is the purpose or benefit of unlocking the bootloader... Was that really just to avoid Odin so I can flash my couple rom choices easier?
I appreciate your time!

cyberoptics said:
That was very helpful... Looks like Araya is my best bet. I'll leave jasmine rom to try it.
I was hoping that I could get another note 3 rom on this forum and flash the CDMA modem for networking... But doesn't seem like that's an option.
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I might have very slightly overstated the case for pessimism. There is a "consolidated" Verizon Note 3 Forum which is meant for devs to provide development tools and even ROMs that could potentially be used on devices from more than one carrier. But the world being organized the way it is, that means that you are more likely to find multi-carrier GSM ROMs over there than multi-carrier ROMS which support GSM and oh by the way CDMA and LTE as well.
If you want to fool around over there, I recommend that you proceed with great caution to make sure that the ROMs you choose specifically target Qualcomm MSM8974AB Note 3 handsets, and you should read the developer notes very carefully to see whether you need to flash an "hltevzw" kernel separately. If the dev does not mention "supports hltevzw" or "supports N900V" (for example here) you might be taking chances with your hardware.
I suppose it is possible that the radios are 100% "software defined" in the sense of which bands they can support. Maybe you can get what you want by simply flashing the desired carrier's "modem" firmware, but I have never done that so I can't say for certain whether that works or you are risking a brick (or hardware damage) by doing that. I simply don't know (e.g.) if the chips and antennas in a T-mo version of the Note 3 are identical or different from a Verizon Note 3's hardware
cyberoptics said:
If I'm still stuck to Verizon Note 3 rom... What is the purpose or benefit of unlocking the bootloader... Was that really just to avoid Odin so I can flash my couple rom choices easier?
I appreciate your time!
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Well, for one - having a custom recovery allows you to make backups - even if you never change ROMs
People don't think of backups as being "sexy", but they allow you something which is really valuable: freedom to mess around and experiment with the knowledge that "if something goes wrong, I'll just restore the backup".
And with Odin, you only had the choice of Stock Roms. Now you have a few more.
cheers

Yes you can install Any rom for note3
Here is my experience with installing roms on note 3 after unlock bootloader
you should Flash twrp-2.8.7.0-hlte-4.4.img by ODIN for the hlte roms or twrp-2.8.7.0-hltevzw-4.4.img if you looking to flash verizon roms ,
im on Phronesis Rom N7 now and i tryed many roms
AryaMod N7 & S7 Edge
MagMa-NX from NXT TEAM
Resurrection Remix Nougat 7.1.1
CM 13 ROM 6.0.1 for Trader418
Purify CM13 6.0.1 ( the best CM13 till now )
and more ...
i have only one problem that i cant get LTE in mobile network always on H+
i tryed to add screenshot but i couldn't its my firist reply :laugh:

@ALPHA85
Pretty informative first post - thanks, and welcome aboard!
Are you on a Verizon SIM? If not, have you been flashing modems from other Note3 devices?
Just curious; I don't have much experience with radio issues or carrier activation issues. Trying to port a carrier-specific ROM elsewhere (esp starting from a VZW ROM) looks like a massive pile of interlocking software dependencies, though. My respect to anyone who can succeed at it.
Feel free to write a brief summary about what's broken in each - any of them have NFC working? I was on CM13 (trader418) for a long time and would have been happy to stay there were it not for all the GPS issues.

Thank you ,:angel:
i dont use Verizon SIM becouse im from egypt, i bought my verizon note 3 by wrong , when i bought it i saw N9005 under the battery and in the boot screen also inside the rom ,it was lollipop 5.0 ,but sinse i did factory rest i surprised it change to N900V even the imei changed , till now i cant understand how they flashed N9005 rom for N900V device with locked bootloader
i'm on OF1 bootloader unlocked and i flashed PL1 Modem i thought maybe it help me to get LTE but still the same H+
about NFC i really didn't try it at all , i always disable it by titanium pro

ALPHA85 said:
when i bought it i saw N9005 under the battery and in the boot screen also inside the rom ,it was lollipop 5.0 ,but sinse i did factory rest i surprised it change to N900V even the imei changed , till now i cant understand how they flashed N9005 rom for N900V device with locked bootloader
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When you first got it, did it appear to have a Verizon ROM on it? (For instance, the Verizon splash screen?) Or some other carrier's logo?
Actually, that cleared something up for me. Well, except for the part about the IMEI changing
Apparently there were both LTE and GSM models of the "Note 3" that were sold in international markets. I understand the LTE version was originally sold in China, but the GSM model is more common?
The SM-N9005 is an LTE phone (I don't know about CDMA) with the Qualcomm MSM8974 processor
and the N9000 is the GSM model with an Exynos 5420 processor
So that probably explains the binary compatibility of the SM-N900V and the SM-N9005 - same processor, and both phones were designed for LTE service.
But your report should give @cyberoptics a little less pessimistic view of things; thank you for that.
But I wouldn't go so far as to say you can flash ANY Note 3 ROM. Even though both the Exynos and Qualcomm processors use ARM cores, they are fairly different - the Exynos has 8 cores, half of which are Cortex-A15, and the MSM8974 has only four cores which are Krait- something or other. I think they are not quite compatible. Note that in theory, ARM code that was compiled to earlier standards (e.g. thumb, armv5) would certainly work on both devices - but if they compiled ALL the code in ROM libraries that way they would be giving up a lot of performance on either device. So.... to the extent that they target processor specifics for either Cortex-A15 or Krait, they will be incompatible.
cheers.

bftb0 said:
You are in luck. :crying:
There's hardly anything to choose from; maybe 3 or 4 ROMs and about the same number of kernels.
AFAIK, there are no Nougat ROMs and only one Marshmallow ROM (AryaMod6.6).
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bftb0 I just wanted to thank you once again for your consistently helpful, verbose posts about the N900V. I've been using CM13 thinking it was the best thing going, when, as nice as it was at the time, it doesn't hold water compared to AyraMod, which I switched to yesterday after reading this thread.
Now my GPS won't take me sailing past Easter Island when en route to a noon meeting downtown. Maybe Google Cardboard will even work, now that NFC appears to.
Thanks again, and please don't ever bore of being a great and helpful resource, we need you!

Installing NON-AT&T FW on SM-J320A... Possible?

I have the SM-J320A, AT&T version, and now being used outside the USA. Specs on GSMArena indicate that this phone is one of the versions of the J3 2016 family: J320FN (Europe); J320F (EMEA); J320F/DD (India); J320A (AT&T); J320P (Sprint, Virgin Mobile, Boost); Galaxy Amp Prime (Cricket); Galaxy J3 V (Verizon); J320M (LATAM); J320G (Asia).
1. So does this mean all these versions are identical in Hardware?
If there is no other option, I will install the AT&T newest version, however I would prefer to see if it's possible to use a non-AT&T FW so I can get monthly updates. So...
2. Can anyone tell me if it's possible to put a NON-AT&T 'open' version stock FW on the SM-J320A... and I would then be able to receive the security updates direct from Samsung...
Hope what I am asking is clear.
Robert

The j320 model has three different soc. The j320a is exynos based. The different exynos models are J320a, j320ag, j320az & j320w8.
But with this device only the carriers supply updates, unfortunately.
Not sure if it's an option, but I activated an att sim for their prepaid service (25¢ per minute or something)... Will never use the $10 I spent for the service, but I can update ota now.
Other than that keep your eyes here, we try to keep the latest firmwares available for download.

DamienMc said:
The j320 model has three different soc. The j320a is exynos based. The different exynos models are J320a, j320ag, j320az & j320w8.
But with this device only the carriers supply updates, unfortunately.
Not sure if it's an option, but I activated an att sim for their prepaid service (25¢ per minute or something)... Will never use the $10 I spent for the service, but I can update ota now.
Other than that keep your eyes here, we try to keep the latest firmwares available for download.
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That's the best answer I've had on a forum... That makes it clear. So since I cannot really do what I was asking, no problem, I am willing to install the AT&T 7.1.1 version J320AUCU2AQI5. Only issue now is that as said, the phone is in use outside the US currently so cannot get the OTA DL. Is there any way or source to DL the full stock firmware for flash via Odin? Would prefer fully stock version with no rooting, etc.... I have a Macbook Pro for the flashing if it makes any diff.
Robert

Maybe this is what I'm looking for...
https://mega.nz/#!Xl4CiZZA!wXRCOHvyyHkcjq0jke47aTVFAMc6s0vxGG6loM-8zUc
??

Yessir
That's the most current j320a firmware

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Yessir
That's the most current j320a firmware
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Ok thanks again...
Is that completely stock and flashes with Odin?
Any other special instructions needed to flash?
Just asking as it seems there is a lot of discussion on the entire thread and I'm not sure which issues are coming with which downloads.
Robert

Any issues where addressed.
Yes 100% stock.
Nothing special just load all four files in odin and flash it

Forgive me if I sound like a real dingba5, but I can't control myself from asking this. I have developed what can only be described as an unexplainable and illogical obsession with altering my Galaxy Express 2 SM-J327A 's factory condition. From what I know, there's no custom recovery, no ROM, no ROOT. NOTHING for this model. But the Sprint, Boost, etc. variants are all living it up in zip flashing heaven.
So using the same logic my man was using here, which was making sense, could I flash J327P firmware onto my device without ruining my day......