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As I recently posted here. I currently have an epson and novatec evo.
One thing that made me say hmm is that the major difference seem to be things that are normally adjustable (monitors & TV's)
So how could we go about changing these settings?
In Linux I know you can use shell to change most things.
For example xgamma.
Speaking of which I believe those could be ported.. but this isn't XOrg, so could be hard.
Also I know ATI has aticonfig, which allows you to change those settings in shell as well.
We have Adreno GPU's by Qualcomm made specifically for phones, and I doubt that could be ported but it's another thought..
Is there any friggin way we can adjust these settings?
Any ideas? Kernel-tweaks, anything?
I feel like for the super-duper phones we have this can't be too much to ask.
I'll look into it more once I choose which one to keep and re-root but until then I was hoping I could get some community input
topdnbass said:
As I recently posted here. I currently have an epson and novatec evo.
One thing that made me say hmm is that the major difference seem to be things that are normally adjustable (monitors & TV's)
So how could we go about changing these settings?
In Linux I know you can use shell to change most things.
For example xgamma.
Speaking of which I believe those could be ported.. but this isn't XOrg, so could be hard.
Also I know ATI has aticonfig, which allows you to change those settings in shell as well.
We have Adreno GPU's by Qualcomm made specifically for phones, and I doubt that could be ported but it's another thought..
Is there any friggin way we can adjust these settings?
Any ideas? Kernel-tweaks, anything?
I feel like for the super-duper phones we have this can't be too much to ask.
I'll look into it more once I choose which one to keep and re-root but until then I was hoping I could get some community input
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It's probably possible. There is SurfaceFlinger (the Android graphics library, think XWindow or Xorg). You can tweak temperature settings in it, or turn certain pixel colors on/off. We may be able to accomplish something with it by tweaking things there but I've never messed with it.
Another way would be in the kernel for the panel init sequences, but they may or may not be in there. You'd need documentation to know what all the values do. I think we have the whitepaper for the Nova panels but I'm not sure about the Epson.
Hope this helps!
Thanks!
Yeah I was looking into SurfaceFlinger after hackaday managed to disable all led's except red for the nexus.
That's definitely a possibility.
I'll look into that, hopefully i'll get somewhere.
Finally, somebody else brought this up; I made a thread about this a while ago but didn't get much out of it lol. It would be really cool to level out the purplish tint on the nova's and even just to have the ability to mess with the saturation and contrast and things like that. Has there ever been app that does this for other android devices? Maybe that could help.
i've thought it weird that there the adjustments aren't avaialable in phones yet. a $200 netbook has no problem changing these settings, but a $500+ smartphone has no options.
We gotta bump this thread and hope somebody gets some real good ideas lol.
I'll see what I can do, cause this is something every smartphone should be capable of.
So I'm writing this list in full understanding that it is still in development for the HD2. I just want to bring to the developers' attention about what I believe to be really desired features by many. And many of which I don't think will be hard development changes. If anyone else thinks of any, feel free to reply with your ideas and Ill update this post so developers don't have to search or "fetch" the for the ideas. Oh by the way, these features are ideally from the HD2 windows mobile side of things and I feel that if we can get these features on the Android side, it won't be hard for me to let go of WM. Hey, it's the truth.
LIST OF FEATURES:
Boost from 5mp to 8mp camera
Touch focusing on camera
Fixed led notifications [being worked on]
Auto backlight [being worked on]
audio routing through bluetooth?
Other things not directed towards developers:
CoPilot (Although Google Nav is doing it for me )
Office Mobile 2010 or close
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For safe measure
avemn1 said:
So I'm writing this list in full understanding that it is still in development for the HD2. I just want to bring to the developers' attention about what I believe to be really desired features by many. And many of which I don't think will be hard development changes. If anyone else thinks of any, feel free to reply with your ideas and Ill update this post so developers don't have to search or "fetch" the for the ideas. Oh by the way, these features are ideally from the HD2 windows mobile side of things and I feel that if we can get these features on the Android side, it won't be hard for me to let go of WM. Hey, it's the truth.
LIST OF FEATURES:
Boost from 5mp to 8mp camera
Touch focusing on camera
Fixed led notifications
Auto backlight
Other things not directed towards developers:
CoPilot (Although Google Nav is doing it for me )
Office Mobile 2010 or close
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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Um we have a 5mp camera not a 8mp camera its a physical limit.
Ill have a play but I think we can already do touch focus and there are plenty of other camera apps out there.(upon a quick check i found auto focus but not touch to focus)
Led notifications "are" being worked on as we speak.
I believe the auto backlight works(kinda sorta) I believe I saw cotulla say it was working but the polling delay was high so you might not see a change right away. Not sure if they incorportated that yet.
I have not looked into these threads but I know that android has copilot.
and I know we have documents to go. There is a free version and a paid version.
hazard99 said:
Um we have a 5mp camera not a 8mp camera its a physical limit.
Ill have a play but I think we can already do touch focus and there are plenty of other camera apps out there.(upon a quick check i found auto focus but not touch to focus)
Led notifications "are" being worked on as we speak.
I believe the auto backlight works(kinda sorta) I believe I saw cotulla say it was working but the polling delay was high so you might not see a change right away. Not sure if they incorportated that yet.
I have not looked into these threads but I know that android has copilot.
and I know we have documents to go. There is a free version and a paid version.
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I understand that we have a physical 5mp camera but why do we have that tweaking app for wm that tweaks it to 7/8mp?
There is a difference between touch and auto focus. Touch focus allows you to touch the screen and wherever you tap will come into focus. Huge difference when taking close-ups of an object.
Wonderful news about the led and backlight. Thanks for the update!
Only info i could find as far as the camera and android is 720p recording. It might be best to ask the camera question in the nexus1 forums. I am not sure the tweaks are legit.
A wise man once said your images will still look like crap no matter how many mp's you have if your image processor sucks.
hazard99 said:
Only info i could find as far as the camera and android is 720p recording. It might be best to ask the camera question in the nexus1 forums. I am not sure the tweaks are legit.
A wise man once said your images will still look like crap no matter how many mp's you have if your image processor sucks.
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Wow, that's funny!
whats funny
copilot does work, just make sure your version works with froyo...
hazard99 said:
whats funny
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"A wise man once said your images will still look like crap no matter how many mp's you have if your image processor sucks."
I wish the HD2 recorded in 720. Amazing.
thanks azzzz
I want touch to focus while shooting video like iphone 4.
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quick wake up out of stand by
The "lazy" wakeup out of standby to one of the reasons why I switched back to WinMo (elegancia series).
There is a thread out there concerning this issue, but no solution.
the wake problem is being addressed. So there wont be a solution till the dev's figure it out. A lot have stated that using the evo kernal makes it a lot better but Ive seen higher than normal drainage.
Most Needed features
How about audio routing through bluetooth? Its 1 useful feature of Winmo that ive been unable to get on Android.
posse786 said:
How about audio routing through bluetooth? Its 1 useful feature of Winmo that ive been unable to get on Android.
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Got it Posse786. Check first post.
avemn1 said:
I understand that we have a physical 5mp camera but why do we have that tweaking app for wm that tweaks it to 7/8mp?
There is a difference between touch and auto focus. Touch focus allows you to touch the screen and wherever you tap will come into focus. Huge difference when taking close-ups of an object.
Wonderful news about the led and backlight. Thanks for the update!
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No we do not have a tweek for higher MP cameras.
The sensor in the camera is simply only able to register a photo size of 5mp!
Even with that tweek, the photo size is still 5megapixel. (i.e. 2580 by 2048 pixels in size). 5 megapixel will print at about 8 by 10 inch, do you really want a bigger print from your phone?!
Megapixels have nothing, at all to do with image quality (unless your printing large, even then they are sort of pointless!)
That tweek, as far as I know changed the DPI of the photos.
720p video would be nice though,lol
I wish I could listen FM radio through my bluetooth headset
Well personally for me the biggest issue is stable 3G/HSPDA performance. At the moment it is the single biggest limitation of Android on the HD2. All those other issues just pale into insignificance by comparison.
The next biggest is the poor GPS pickup speed. If these were sorted I'd be very happy.
maybe a louder volume hack... since meltus stopped updating for 2.1+
music speaker and speaker phone volume is too soft. The same song plays louder when i bluetooth to another phone.
Hello everyone. I've been using the stock firmware since i bought the phone but currently thinking to try cynogenmod.
What i want to ask is, does it worth to install CM as Sony's stock rom is pretty good both performance/battery consumption and UI wise, compared to many other phone like samsung which i never quite liked.
Will it improve the battery life which is sony has already done a good job on stock firmware and what other benefits will i get?
Thanks in advance.
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Hello everyone. I've been using the stock firmware since i bought the phone but currently thinking to try cynogenmod.
What i want to ask is, does it worth to install CM as Sony's stock rom is pretty good both performance/battery consumption and UI wise, compared to many other phone like samsung which i never quite liked.
Will it improve the battery life which is sony has already done a good job on stock firmware and what other benefits will i get?
Thanks in advance.
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Try to use stock based rom if u don't want to loose drm keys. As cm requires an ub phone.
Brick3 said:
Hello everyone. I've been using the stock firmware since i bought the phone but currently thinking to try cynogenmod.
What i want to ask is, does it worth to install CM as Sony's stock rom is pretty good both performance/battery consumption and UI wise, compared to many other phone like samsung which i never quite liked.
Will it improve the battery life which is sony has already done a good job on stock firmware and what other benefits will i get?
Thanks in advance.
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CM based roms have terrible camera performance. U will lost ur drm keys. Its contains ur camera clarity, bravia engine and so.. So better stick with stock Sony. But performance wise CM is best..
Brick3 said:
Hello everyone. I've been using the stock firmware since i bought the phone but currently thinking to try cynogenmod.
What i want to ask is, does it worth to install CM as Sony's stock rom is pretty good both performance/battery consumption and UI wise, compared to many other phone like samsung which i never quite liked.
Will it improve the battery life which is sony has already done a good job on stock firmware and what other benefits will i get?
Thanks in advance.
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In Sony world, it is mostly personal preference. If it was a Samsung phone I would no doubt say "go for it and never look back". For a Sony, it is just you have more than one option.
What you get with Sony's stock over a pure(ish) Android;
-Options to have ClearAudio+ and XReality technologies which helps to improve music and image quality respectively from Sony.
- Stamina Mod. Without turning up and down bars into orange
- Picture correcting software which is heavily integrated into original camera software and protected by famous DRM keys. It helps smoothing the noise on the photos, coming mostly from lack of enough light. Especially night shots really benefit from it (difference not so visible on day light).
- FM Radio and some software of Sony like Playstation center and internal backup and restore software, also an Antivirus if anyone is interested in.
Bad side of Sony's software over Pure Android:
- the theme you apply directly effects the top bar. I love red and red-like colors but I don't wanna use my whatsapp with a cherry red line on top. I was hoping that would change in 5.1.1 but no luck.
- standby drain is high if no Stamina is on. Something between 5-10% over night. That's absurd considering the usage drain is fairly good.
- all those beautiful camera options only limited to 8mp option. 12mp is just pure photo (still combined with Sony's correction software if DRMs are active)
- when I try to fast scroll, sometimes the launcher jumps two pages at a time but that happens only going to the right, not happening when going to the left
- I don't know if it's only my phone but most of the time turning on the WiFi is not enough for it to auto connect to a remembered network. I have to open the network list and click on it to connect.
So, what CM or other pure Android-based ROMs offer:
- visual consistentcy among all the apps and menus. Once use stock Android you understand how odd the later added apps look in modified versions. For example Google photos and Google calendar has very familiar look and feel and behaviours. So once you get used to them you can immediately and efficiently start using Google Messages too. However that is not the case with Sony's Album or Walkman app no matter they have their functional advantages.
- super fast, super light, super light on the battery.
- sound and camera may need some fine tuning to reach to Sony level but it is possible as this device have is well known by developers and shares a very generous, open code. For example OpenCam app is perfect for doing anything you want to do with your camera, and it also comes without Mp limitations.
- there are some neat additions to original Android like theme engine or assigning volume keys to change the song or reordering the tiles on the top bar.
- per app ops to limit untrusted apps' intentions.
- more options through Xposed as it is created from a widely shared code.
The cons:
- since most of the works are based on nightlies, sometimes things can be broken for a couple of days or something working might stop working after an update. So you must decide between a tester and a careful everyday user who comes one or two days after the testers on the update schedule.
- you should find you DRM keys a safe place before unlocking your bootloader (I keep mine on Google drive) as they will be gone in order to be able to install a non-Sony ROM.
- camera quality may degrade if you are fan of super auto mod especially (personally, not).
- Xreality will not be there as it is a Sony extension. However I personally think this beautiful screen does not need any tuning to show the beauty of anything.
- no FM radio or pre installed anti virus software.
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_delice_doluca_ said:
In Sony world, it is mostly personal preference. If it was a Samsung phone I would no doubt say "go for it and never look back". For a Sony, it is just you have more than one option.
What you get with Sony's stock over a pure(ish) Android;
-Options to have ClearAudio+ and XReality technologies which helps to improve music and image quality respectively from Sony.
- Stamina Mod. Without turning up and down bars into orange
- Picture correcting software which is heavily integrated into original camera software and protected by famous DRM keys. It helps smoothing the noise on the photos, coming mostly from lack of enough light. Especially night shots really benefit from it (difference not so visible on day light).
- FM Radio and some software of Sony like Playstation center and internal backup and restore software, also an Antivirus if anyone is interested in.
Bad side of Sony's software over Pure Android:
- the theme you apply directly effects the top bar. I love red and red-like colors but I don't wanna use my whatsapp with a cherry red line on top. I was hoping that would change in 5.1.1 but no luck.
- standby drain is high if no Stamina is on. Something between 5-10% over night. That's absurd considering the usage drain is fairly good.
- all those beautiful camera options only limited to 8mp option. 12mp is just pure photo (still combined with Sony's correction software if DRMs are active)
- when I try to fast scroll, sometimes the launcher jumps two pages at a time but that happens only going to the right, not happening when going to the left
- I don't know if it's only my phone but most of the time turning on the WiFi is not enough for it to auto connect to a remembered network. I have to open the network list and click on it to connect.
So, what CM or other pure Android-based ROMs offer:
- visual consistentcy among all the apps and menus. Once use stock Android you understand how odd the later added apps look in modified versions. For example Google photos and Google calendar has very familiar look and feel and behaviours. So once you get used to them you can immediately and efficiently start using Google Messages too. However that is not the case with Sony's Album or Walkman app no matter they have their functional advantages.
- super fast, super light, super light on the battery.
- sound and camera may need some fine tuning to reach to Sony level but it is possible as this device have is well known by developers and shares a very generous, open code. For example OpenCam app is perfect for doing anything you want to do with your camera, and it also comes without Mp limitations.
- there are some neat additions to original Android like theme engine or assigning volume keys to change the song or reordering the tiles on the top bar.
- per app ops to limit untrusted apps' intentions.
- more options through Xposed as it is created from a widely shared code.
The cons:
- since most of the works are based on nightlies, sometimes things can be broken for a couple of days or something working might stop working after an update. So you must decide between a tester and a careful everyday user who comes one or two days after the testers on the update schedule.
- you should find you DRM keys a safe place before unlocking your bootloader (I keep mine on Google drive) as they will be gone in order to be able to install a non-Sony ROM.
- camera quality may degrade if you are fan of super auto mod especially (personally, not).
- Xreality will not be there as it is a Sony extension. However I personally think this beautiful screen does not need any tuning to show the beauty of anything.
- no FM radio or pre installed anti virus software.
Sent from my D6503 using XDA Free mobile app
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Thanks delice_doluca. That was just the answer I was looking for.
A few things I want to say:
-You've said that the camera is limited to 8 mp but I didn't get what you meant. I can go up to 20.7 mp.
-Cm and other rom's light weight, fast performance is due to the lack of unnecessary bloatware but I dont see how its one of their strengt as you can remove those bloatwares on stock ROM too with root access.
-There's a security software inside Cm as you said but the only difference is that its built in. On stock ROM you just download it manually and besides i'm pretty sure the security programs you're going to download from by kaspersky, avira etc will be a lot better than the cm one. Again I don't think its an advantage either. Im tryong find some good reasons to justify installing cm but I just can't find besides some minor ones as many features that is considered strength of cm you can also do it on stock ROM and im wondering why do some people prefer using cm?
Brick3 said:
Thanks delice_doluca. That was just the answer I was looking for.
A few things I want to say:
-You've said that the camera is limited to 8 mp but I didn't get what you meant. I can go up to 20.7 mp.
-Cm and other rom's light weight, fast performance is due to the lack of unnecessary bloatware but I dont see how its one of their strengt as you can remove those bloatwares on stock ROM too with root access.
-There's a security software inside Cm as you said but the only difference is that its built in. On stock ROM you just download it manually and besides i'm pretty sure the security programs you're going to download from by kaspersky, avira etc will be a lot better than the cm one. Again I don't think its an advantage either. Im tryong find some good reasons to justify installing cm but I just can't find besides some minor ones as many features that is considered strength of cm you can also do it on stock ROM and im wondering why do some people prefer using cm?
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- Camera is limited to 8mp if you want to apply scenes or choose another mode like HDR. When 20.7mp chosen, all you can do is to take the photo without any ambient or method oriented tuning. (no big deal actually, I shot at 20.7 Mp and tune it in my computer layer. However I wished there was HDR on 20.7 mp)
- do not think bloat ware only as additional apps. There are also background services, running under the OS, or other methods of the OS handling the user's or automated requests. I am not an Android developing master but I can give an example from Linux world. Last month Linux Mint released a new version and they announced their desktop environment (Cinnamon) was now using %40 less CPU even thought it had introduced more effects and options to the user. The trick was to calculate desktop's actions more efficiently and in a more harmonic way so the processes would not fight with each other. So they have knocked the CPU's door at more empty times and less frequently.
Stock Android is tailored by one team, with the same goals at their heads. Sony has another team who is also dressing it and tailoring some parts again. The Sony team is supposed to know what the first team intended and how good they are so they can make the modification exactly like they desired. However now the hybrid OS is designed by two different teams with (maybe entirety) different goals in minds. Don't get me wrong, Sony is the closest and most friendly team to the original Android project and to Google but still it is a complex effort and simplicity is everyone's friend in complex jobs.
- About the security software. Stock Sony ROM is the one which comes with security software (McAfee I guess). CM is open as a nature and you can limit user apps one by one (which is possible where root access exist, regardless of the ROM). My thinking is, all the Antivirus software is unnecessary in Android world. The one and only protection is common sense (simply don't install or clock everything )
What I have been writing should not make you want to install CM BTW CM or other stock Android - like ROMs exist mostly for the people who are saying "I wish that was the next Nexus device, like Xperia Nexus". Basically, for an Xperia device, wanting to install stock Android is just about personal joy or habits coming from another stock Android device (mostly a Nexus).
Don't look for bigger reasons as you probably will not find. All you need to have in your mind is liking stock Android more than Sony's Android and some free time to build your own device experience.
Ps: stock Android term is used for Google's own Android which is not touched by any other company (Sony, Samsung, HTC etc.)
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_delice_doluca_ said:
- Camera is limited to 8mp if you want to apply scenes or choose another mode like HDR. When 20.7mp chosen, all you can do is to take the photo without any ambient or method oriented tuning. (no big deal actually, I shot at 20.7 Mp and tune it in my computer layer. However I wished there was HDR on 20.7 mp)
- do not think bloat ware only as additional apps. There are also background services, running under the OS, or other methods of the OS handling the user's or automated requests. I am not an Android developing master but I can give an example from Linux world. Last month Linux Mint released a new version and they announced their desktop environment (Cinnamon) was now using %40 less CPU even thought it had introduced more effects and options to the user. The trick was to calculate desktop's actions more efficiently and in a more harmonic way so the processes would not fight with each other. So they have knocked the CPU's door at more empty times and less frequently.
Stock Android is tailored by one team, with the same goals at their heads. Sony has another team who is also dressing it and tailoring some parts again. The Sony team is supposed to know what the first team intended and how good they are so they can make the modification exactly like they desired. However now the hybrid OS is designed by two different teams with (maybe entirety) different goals in minds. Don't get me wrong, Sony is the closest and most friendly team to the original Android project and to Google but still it is a complex effort and simplicity is everyone's friend in complex jobs.
- About the security software. Stock Sony ROM is the one which comes with security software (McAfee I guess). CM is open as a nature and you can limit user apps one by one (which is possible where root access exist, regardless of the ROM). My thinking is, all the Antivirus software is unnecessary in Android world. The one and only protection is common sense (simply don't install or clock everything )
What I have been writing should not make you want to install CM BTW CM or other stock Android - like ROMs exist mostly for the people who are saying "I wish that was the next Nexus device, like Xperia Nexus". Basically, for an Xperia device, wanting to install stock Android is just about personal joy or habits coming from another stock Android device (mostly a Nexus).
Don't look for bigger reasons as you probably will not find. All you need to have in your mind is liking stock Android more than Sony's Android and some free time to build your own device experience.
Ps: stock Android term is used for Google's own Android which is not touched by any other company (Sony, Samsung, HTC etc.)
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I guess i'll continue to use stock ROM as i'm happy with it.
Thank you so much for this detailed answer.
why is the multi tasking so bad on cm11?
Do you get camera 2 api on cyanogens rom? If be prepared to swap if they did for manual focus
cm has media skip buttons function., that alone makes me prefer it more
I was contemplating the same as the OP. After reading the replies here I've decided to look at other options for installing a custom ROM without unlocking the bootloader.
You guys have provided some really good info in this thread, I wish others could be as informative.
Thanks
Cm is good for my nexus5, but seems it is not so good for my z2
There is this app called Super Touch that phone arena covered. Supposed to smoothen the touch experience on android by a significant margin. The developer offers no explanation as to how the app works. I've yet to test it because it is building something right now and it takes a long while to finish. From what i can make out , i think it builds some sort of scrolling cache and offloads them to GPU ? I don't know the internal android structure that well and analyzing the source if there is one , is beyond me. If there is a developer that can explain the intricate workings of this app to people , so people could stop comparing this to "snake oil" if it's legit , if it's not we can ask google to remove it from google play , that'd be great. Thanks.
The link to the article ;
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spot...d-up-your-sluggish-Android-smartphone_id75851
I don't know if it is against forum rules to post links to articles , if it is please warn me and i will remove the link.
boltthrower56 said:
I don't know the internal android structure that well and analyzing the source if there is one , is beyond me. If there is a developer that can explain the intricate workings of this app to people , so people could stop comparing this to "snake oil" if it's legit , if it's not we can ask google to remove it from google play , that'd be great. Thanks.
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Why is this such a great deal?
Pros
* It seems to work
* It passed google's requirements and malware checks
* Does not need root
Cons
* Closed source
Just because we (you) can't comprehend how it works, is not a reason to question its viability.
Keeping it closed source and not revealing its workings is just a way to prevent competition and/or code copying.
There are lots of fake apps that pretend to be doing something you should be more worried about.
I wouldn't really worry about this one, but if you don't trust it, don't use it.
To answer your question; I would say its either one of these
* Animation caching
* Reducing element-sizes, and thus stretching it to save system resources (since the app needs to know you screen resolution)
* System optimizations for animations (Altho these things usually require root)
On a side note, since you are posting this on the Nexus 4 forums, I assume you own/use one. The article you linked clearly says older devices benefit more from this app, since newer/better devices already handle things pretty smoothly. This means that the result of this app on a Nexus 4 may be unnoticeable. Could it be that you question this app because you don't see any result?
MerynGoesAndroid said:
Why is this such a great deal?
Pros
* It seems to work
* It passed google's requirements and malware checks
* Does not need root
Cons
* Closed source
Just because we (you) can't comprehend how it works, is not a reason to question its viability.
Keeping it closed source and not revealing its workings is just a way to prevent competition and/or code copying.
There are lots of fake apps that pretend to be doing something you should be more worried about.
I wouldn't really worry about this one, but if you don't trust it, don't use it.
To answer your question; I would say its either one of these
* Animation caching
* Reducing element-sizes, and thus stretching it to save system resources (since the app needs to know you screen resolution)
* System optimizations for animations (Altho these things usually require root)
On a side note, since you are posting this on the Nexus 4 forums, I assume you own/use one. The article you linked clearly says older devices benefit more from this app, since newer/better devices already handle things pretty smoothly. This means that the result of this app on a Nexus 4 may be unnoticeable. Could it be that you question this app because you don't see any result?
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No , it could not be because i had not tested the app when i wrote that. (Had you bothered to read , you'd know.) We question everything on this forum , that's how we learn. I did not assume that it was "fake" by the way , if that's why you're hostile (and arrogant). People on other forums compared this to "snake oil". I wanted to share the app with friends so it could grow. That's why i wanted to make out how it works. I can't share this app before knowing that it's not "snake oil".
When i said i'm not "that" affiliated with Android ecosystem , i didn't mean i'm illiterate btw.
Anyway , i could already make those out from the description of the app (Yes , i too read it ). I wanted more of a technical answer but thank you , nevertheless...
On a side note , In a help thread please just answer the question if you can , skip the lectures people didn't ask for. I asked "available devs" to explain the intricate workings of an app so as to clear the air , not only did you not provide that but you tried to give me a lesson on morality. Please refrain from doing that. And please do not write a lengthy and angry reply to this. I'm just not interested in arguing with you.
boltthrower56 said:
I don't know the internal android structure that well and analyzing the source if there is one , is beyond me.
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Made me think you were new to Android development and coding in general. Normally people like this with these questions do not want/need a specific and technical answer which is why I told you to not worry about it.
I don't know if it is against forum rules to post links to articles , if it is please warn me and i will remove the link.
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Again, made me think you were new here.
if it's not we can ask google to remove it from google play , that'd be great.
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This sounded to me as if you just wanted it to be removed.
My post was not intended to sound the way you describe it, and reading it again I wonder how you came to the conclusion I was 'teaching you a lesson'. Just because I did not overflood my post with happy smileys and kind words does not mean I'm hostile and/or trying to be arrogant.
To me, your post sounds the exact same was as how you described mine.
That aside, here are my technical thoughs.
The app stores quite a lot of data on your phone, close to 7MByte on my phone, to an app-size of 2,86MByte, so I assume it makes use of some kind of caching.
It probably uses some other techniques for different element optimizations, meaning not all improvements are via caching.
My guess is it takes the animations it knows, and "replays" them, capturing the animation and storing it in its data for quick access. When you start the app and set it up, it needs time and says "building fast event for x action", which is why I think it works this way.
From the app:
When using the same smooth level, the better the GPU performance is, the smoother the operation wil be. If the GPU performance is not up to the demand, it may cause frame loss when sliding screen. Higher level may take longer time to start, a better CPU may take less time.
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The animation is probably "scaled" down in size, which makes it less computing-heavy. This also explains why the higher the setting, the longer it takes. (more compression = more computing power needed. Since a better CPU can do more instructions per second, it will be faster at rendering its own "database" of the animations, which is logical.
Not sure what the author meant with "better the GPU performance is, the smoother the operation will be". Operation could either refer to the process Super Touch does, or the process of animating the animation when using the phone. Personally I think this refers to using the GPU for rendering animations normally (without Super Touch), which can cause frame drops as he explains. GPU's with lower performance will have a harder time rendering an animation than a GPU with high preformance. Pre-rendering takes this load off of the GPU, making it more "smooth" in real performance.
With this method its can just 'grab' an animation from its memory and 'play' it instead of calculating it on-the-fly.
Looking at the permissions the apps needs, the app uses "draw over other apps". This is probably used to "show" the animations it stored instead of the animations of the app that is being used. How it is actually able to replace this animation is something Im not sure of.
The app has permission to run at startup, this is probably needed to "load" the core service that does this replacement.
I do not exactly know why it needs permission to read phone status & identity and change audio settings, but my guess would be that it is related to the power saving mode.
The developer offers no explanation as to how the app works.
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Unless he does, we can probably only assume how his app works. Decompiling the app and looking at the source might give you an answer, but this is not something I can help you with, mainly because my last decompiling experience is 3 or 4 years back.
Using it for 2 days. And I have to admit that it works, really well, without harming battery, which is a amazing win-win solution.
I asked on the Google play store and get the answer from the developer: the app offload the working process from the CPU to the GPU, hence everything gets much smoother and the performance level depends on your device's GPU.
After optimization, sliding is very smooth.
Hii, guys I am an android developer and started working on SM-G360H and I am sure that a new PSK-OS release will surprise you all as it is first being launched by me for G360H till 1st July,2016. PSK-OS is a great OS which will increase your RAM by 50% and will support all most all formats like - apk, jar, etc. This OS will make your camera 40% more smooth and 0.5 MP more dense, also it is having a great UI named after PSK. This project has been completed almost 80% and it is based on both Linux and Unix. For further information comment or contact [email protected], join me on FB too.
Puneet Sharma
PSK
Then release it. We will test it
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Hii, guys I am an android developer and started working on SM-G360H and I am sure that a new PSK-OS release will surprise you all as it is first being launched by me for G360H till 1st July,2016. PSK-OS is a great OS which will increase your RAM by 50% and will support all most all formats like - apk, jar, etc. This OS will make your camera 40% more smooth and 0.5 MP more dense, also it is having a great UI named after PSK. This project has been completed almost 80% and it is based on both Linux and Unix. For further information comment or contact [email protected], join me on FB too.
Puneet Sharma
PSK
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Great job man
Hope it finish soon
Need any help like testing...etc
I can do that...and there are many others too
Thanks bro....
Hi OP,
I have few questions for you:
You said, your OS increases RAM by 50%. What you think dude, we are [email protected]$$es?
You can NEVER increase RAM through software. Never.
You said, it increases camera quality by 40%. Really bro, really? I don't think it's possible. What I know you can degrade camera quality in custom ROMs, not increase. Camera quality is already on peak in stock ROMs.
You said, camera more dense - 0.5MP. Again, dude. We're not dumbos. We know, it's impossible. MP is an hardware related thing. Even if you forcefully try to increase MP through software, you'll only degrade it's quality, because you would be faking the lens resolution.
This total post seems fishy to me. Even if you've made a new OS, it surely will never have any RAM increasing or Camera MP increasing thingy. If you really are developer, stop using lies in your projects here.
Explanation
Ram can be increased as well as camera can also be optimized as in stock rom RAM is limited due to it's Locked frequency which I have increased and camera in stock rom also have limited number of pixels for a smooth picture experience buy we can make it more clear and sharpen by powering it more but these both things will result in increasing your phone's temperature but we have another system which will control it easily.
Thanks
PSK
Just checkout at YouTube, search GOOGLE for "psk os"
then develop quickly bro
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Just checkout at YouTube, search GOOGLE for "psk os"
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I searched on YT and got an introductory video with couple of sh!tty slideshows. Are you kidding me, dude?!
Apart from what @AtomR has mentioned, I would like op to explain what Linux and UNIX based means. Iirc Linux, due to POSIX compliance, is Unix like, but is actually different from UNIX in many ways. I heard no any other Android being based on UNIX. In fact iOS is probably the only mobile OS based on UNIX (though quite distant from original UNIX).
You cannot increase RAM. You probably mean swap file. You cannot increase MP of camera by any software whatsoever then what the hardware supports. Some vendors like Sony reduce the permitted resolution of camera for some reason I don't know. In that case a software could increase MP. But in our phone it's actually 5MP. No more.
So I saw that YouTube video where he writes "apk,exe, deb can be installed". Even WINE hasnt been ported to android so far. Hello? Ding Ding? Are you in a fairy land? Is this some sort of sick joke? Also he says Launching Date Will Be Announced After Getting 1 Million Likes . Looks like he wants some quick bucks from YouTube monetisation.
I am so sorry I don't want to bash anyone here or anything. If you think you could achieve those results then good for you, but the possibility of such project being successful is highly unlikely, given that you don't seem to know much on Operating systems. We all are highly skeptical because your claims are lavish and you haven't shown anything rather giving a date which looks like some weird thing is going on.
P.S. Don't count your chickens before they're hatched.
Ok, guys. Should'nt we report this thread to mods?
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Ok, guys. Should'nt we report this thread to mods?
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Do it. 3 days has passed, and that weird guy seems quiet
Sent from my SM-G360H using XDA Labs
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Do it. 3 days has passed, and that weird guy seems quiet
Sent from my SM-G360H using XDA Labs
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Done. Totally forgot about this.
AtomR said:
Hi OP,
I have few questions for you:
You said, your OS increases RAM by 50%. What you think dude, we are [email protected]$$es?
You can NEVER increase RAM through software. Never.
You said, it increases camera quality by 40%. Really bro, really? I don't think it's possible. What I know you can degrade camera quality in custom ROMs, not increase. Camera quality is already on peak in stock ROMs.
You said, camera more dense - 0.5MP. Again, dude. We're not dumbos. We know, it's impossible. MP is an hardware related thing. Even if you forcefully try to increase MP through software, you'll only degrade it's quality, because you would be faking the lens resolution.
This total post seems fishy to me. Even if you've made a new OS, it surely will never have any RAM increasing or Camera MP increasing thingy. If you really are developer, stop using lies in your projects here.
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^Exactly
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Apart from what @AtomR has mentioned, I would like op to explain what Linux and UNIX based means. Iirc Linux, due to POSIX compliance, is Unix like, but is actually different from UNIX in many ways. I heard no any other Android being based on UNIX. In fact iOS is probably the only mobile OS based on UNIX (though quite distant from original UNIX).
You cannot increase RAM. You probably mean swap file. You cannot increase MP of camera by any software whatsoever then what the hardware supports. Some vendors like Sony reduce the permitted resolution of camera for some reason I don't know. In that case a software could increase MP. But in our phone it's actually 5MP. No more.
So I saw that YouTube video where he writes "apk,exe, deb can be installed". Even WINE hasnt been ported to android so far. Hello? Ding Ding? Are you in a fairy land? Is this some sort of sick joke? Also he says Launching Date Will Be Announced After Getting 1 Million Likes . Looks like he wants some quick bucks from YouTube monetisation.
I am so sorry I don't want to bash anyone here or anything. If you think you could achieve those results then good for you, but the possibility of such project being successful is highly unlikely, given that you don't seem to know much on Operating systems. We all are highly skeptical because your claims are lavish and you haven't shown anything rather giving a date which looks like some weird thing is going on.
P.S. Don't count your chickens before they're hatched.
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^^This.
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Ok, guys. Should'nt we report this thread to mods?
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Yes.
Thread closed. Placeholder threads and monetzation of your ROMs are not allowed on XDA.