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Battery life is something that definitely concerns everyone.
Lately we've been seeing a considerable increase in the number of tips, tweaks, and some apps to improve battery life in our nexus phones.
New modded kernels are also starting to pop up since kmobs released his UV one, followed by psyq's and insectRaven's, among others. I've even read comments about having 70% battery power after about 15 hours of use with AVS! Damn, what's your secret you people?
As well as undervolting, AVS, and other kernel-based configs, people are also starting to talk about how each ROM optimizes battery use. Some claim Emmother has better results than CM. Some are just fine with CM.
There have also been several comments about slow charging being better than fast 1A charging.
So, to join all these things together, I've created this post to see how much battery are YOU getting and what's your setup. Hopefully, we can all benefit from the information that's collected here once it gets going.
Please post in a clear and organized manner so we can all get some useful info out of this thread. I encourage you to follow this way of posting your info:
ROM: Whatever ROM you're using.
Kernel: Whatever kernel you're using (please be specific about extra features it may include)
System & software related:Widgets: Any widgets you've got that you think have certain influence on battery life.
Background: Any apps you've got running on background.
Connectivity: 3G signal + strengths or weaknesses / Wifi / Bluetooth.
Sync enabled?: Pretty self explanatory.
GPS & navigation: What software do you use for navigation.
Others: Screen brightness, display % usage, etc..
Battery-related:Battery model: HTC stock, ebay, whatever...
Charging method: What kind of charger are you using?
Extra info: Voltage, temp, and any other info worth providing.
Overall phone use: (Time-wise)
Internet (Browsing): How much time you spend *JUST* on your browser.
Internet (General): IM, VoIP, streaming... Basically any app you frequently use that requires connection.
Calling: Approximate total time per charge.
GPS & navigation: Do you use it frequently? If so, how much.
Games: Which games and for how long do you usually play.
Other: Any apps you may want to point out.
Battery life & impressions:
Here is where the real, but somewhat subjective, talk comes in. Just post what battery life you're getting with the info you've just provided and what are your concerns and impressions regarding this. This is the place to comment in more detail about anything you may have posted above and want to clarify or drive special attention to.
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Leave whatever you don't want to post blank, but please be as specific and objective as you can on what you do post. Also, feel free to add any category with info you think is worth it. If you think there's something that I left out and should be there (which is very likely I have) please don't hesitate to tell me and I'll add it as soon as I read it.
I really hope we can all share some info and clear out all the secrets regarding mysterious claims for battery life I've seen around lately. For this to work I urge you once again to post in a clear and organized manner. There's quite a lot of information and it'll be much easier to find, compare, and comment on.
Thanks in advance for your participation.
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I'll try and post the best results here once we've got enough impressions.
What happened to this thread???? No one replied?
I think the idea is awesome, however the information you ask might be a bit too detailed. I would rather try to classify uses under "light", "medium" and "heavy" (i.e. light would be just occasional phone and messaging, medium would be more frequent messaging with occasional data/gps/wifi....etc.) That way, someone could easily classify himself along these criteria and we would get a very large database of battery life for each rom and use. I'm sure a lot of people would chime in on this as battery life is very important to all of us.
For me, it's too early to give my opinion as I just got the phone and installed CM, but I am a little bit disappointed at the battery life... I definitely won't be keeping the display brightness on auto...
Hey thanks for replying!
I created this thread because in such a phone, battery life is an issue that we're all concerned about. Now, with so many different ROMs/Kernels to choose from, it's sometimes difficult to know which will suit you the best in these terms.
I never said every category I mentioned had to be answered. They're kind of a guide if you will. Just answer whatever you feel like answering, or make a simple comment if you feel lazy. I don't really care as long as the discussion stays on topic.
I think once we've got some participation this thread will grow exponentially. I just can't believe people don't give a **** about they're $500+ "superphone"'s battery.
ROM: CM 5.0.5.3
Kernel: intersectRavens 33.1 AVS Extra
System & software related:
Widgets: Weather widget donate, Battery Life, Agenda Widget, Audio Manager, Power Control, IP Address
Background: Wallpaper rotator(60 mins), SeePU, SetCPU, AppSwipe, GTalk, Meebo, Google Voice, Gestures, Swype
Connectivity: 2G only for 2 more weeks
Sync enabled?: Yes
GPS & navigation: Motonav about twice a week.
Others: 0% Brightness except in the sun, Display usage ranges from 20% to 60%
Battery-related:
Battery model: ends with M
Charging method: 500mA USB usually
Extra info:
Overall phone use: (Time-wise)
I'm a heavy user. The battery will die in under 4 hours if I use it constantly.
Internet (Browsing):
Internet (General): gmail,gvoice,im, xda, fmylife
Calling: about 30 mins per day.
GPS & navigation: not too much, all of them drain the battery fast.
Games: RoboDefence (level 70 , drains the battery quickly, choppy with power save kernels), AirControl. Whenever theres time to kill
Other: Camera.(tried desire, back on stock now). Shoot anything and everything. Very fast way to empty your battery.
Battery life & impressions:
Have to carry a charger on me whenever I go out for an extended period (5 hrs). Noticed some improvement in standby time with the new AVS kernel.
Waiting to try the release version of CM 5.0.6 or 5.0.7;logs indicate power saving is a priority now.
Many people have gone to sedio for more battery life out of the power sucking android phones to attempt to get the most that they can out of their phones, including myself.
Unfortunately, as seen in this thread: droidforums.net/forum/droid-accessories/9569-seidio-2600mah-extended-battery-77.html
extensive research has been put into the issues that the droid(and im assuming other devices)'s firmware was built to estimate battery for the original battery pack, and can not adjust when a larger pack from sedio(ranging between 1700 mah and 2800 mah) is put in.
There are also no apps to correctly read the batteries, with the closest thing to an accurate battery read is battery left which calibrates itself based off of mv and battery life, which is mediocre at best.
I know there are lots of dev's over here that are significantly smarter and better at modifying the system than most over there, and since alldroid is permanently gone as of now, I figured this would be the best resource for help.
Any dev willing to take on the project, there are many people in the listed thread with research in the project, but not the knowledge to fix the firmware, that im sure would not mind paying for an accurate read app.
I know this is an old topic, but there really hasn't been any advances on this and I am getting annoyed by my incorrect battery readings. Battery left does an OK job, but it still goes down to 1% way before it should, even though I have calibrated it over and over again.
What we need is a simple battery app that will let you define at what voltage your battery is at 100%, 90% etc.
this was posted on the XDA Portal on JANUARY 14, 2012 AT 7:38 AM BY Liwen..
and i thought i would repost it as it seems lately alot of people are being misinformed about it
Google Engineer Debunks Myth: Wiping Battery Stats Does Not Improve Battery Life...
There you have it, in the title. Google engineer Dianne Hackborn, who has previously explained Android’s hardware acceleration, took to Google+ again to clarify some myths about the Android operating system. This time, it’s a point of common advice that you’ll see in virtually every FAQ thread about custom ROMs and flashing: wiping battery stats in order to improve battery life.
The reasoning behind that piece of advice was something like this: If you, at some point, did not charge your Android device fully (for example, only to 80%), it would supposedly remember that battery level as “fully charged” – in this case, you’d only ever get to use 80% of your battery, which is of course less than optimal. So, if you wipe the battery stats, usually done in ClockWord Mod Recovery, the device would “forget” the previous level, here 80%, and instead charge to the full 100% once again, thereby re-calibrating the battery. Or, as Hackborn puts it in more technical terms:
The battery indicator in the status/notification bar is a reflection of the batterystats.bin file in the data/system/ directory.
However, as she explains, that’s not the case. Because those battery stats, stored in the batterystats.bin file, are only used to maintain information about what is using the battery when not recharging. That is, it essentially holds the information displayed in the Settings > Battery screen. Nothing more, nothing less. Thus:
It has no impact on the current battery level shown to you.
It has no impact on your battery life.
What’s more, you’ve probably noticed that the battery usage data is reset once you recharge your device anyway. From this you can correctly deduce that the battery stats are wiped as well – every time your device is recharged. More or less every day. If there was any effect, you would’ve noticed it without going into recovery and doing that stuff. Typical placebo, eh?
link to XDA Portal post
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-battery-stats-does-not-improve-battery-life/
maybe a mod will sticky this as i think it needs to be at the top of the page so people can see it .......
Hackborn, excellent name. Sounds like my kinda girl
Edit; Found another interesting article by her about android multitasking http://android-developers.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
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Robbie P said:
Hackborn, excellent name. Sounds like my kinda girl
Edit; Found another interesting article by her about android multitasking http://android-developers.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/multitasking-android-way.html
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nice find Robbie
hey im gonna pm you about a couple apps you might like
Thank you so much! Even I do not own HTC Leo: HD2 this is still important for us Galaxy Y owners , Can I put this on our Forums and linking a thread here so they know who to thank? and a credits to you also as well . Thanks button pressed.
Sean De Jesus said:
Thank you so much! Even I do not own HTC Leo: HD2 this is still important for us Galaxy Y owners , Can I put this on our Forums and linking a thread here so they know who to thank? and a credits to you also as well . Thanks button pressed.
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your welcome
yes you can add to to your forum section
no credits to me are needed i just posted it from the xda news page
my htc hd2 wired problem .. my battery drains very fast.. . if i connect power cable after some time phone boots... some times while charging itself my phone switched off.. screen dark.. only liberates no display...
is it problem with my battery..or phone hardware issue...
me changed different rom.. and sd card. two years worked very well .. without any issues.. no Im in big trouble..with this phone
help me
The phone's supposed to turn on while charging when off in MAGLDR, that's completely normal. The high drain could be caused by any number of things and since there are various guides around as to how to reduce your battery drain I'm not going to get into it right now. The other issue you have is (I assume, the wording's a bit difficult to understand) an SOD or 'sleep of death'. Try flashing a newer ROM because afaik this issue doesn't exist on modern HD2 ROMs at all.
cool, good to know.
this is the question about li-ion battary. Smn says that better to charge from 0 to 100. and use from 100 to 0, but theoretically, this kind of battery better be used from 20 for 80 percent. So, there is a lot of things to debate.
My thought process behind this thread is to discuss the battery usage of specific apps that people are interested in. I know I see lots of comments on some of the biggies in the "you should be getting 900 hours of SOT" threads, but there are so many others and since those threads are impossible to keep up with I thought this might be a useful idea.
So that said, let me start with my question.
Any one use MightyText and have done a reasonable test on battery impact? I've used it for a long time, without significant battery impact on older android builds. But with Doze the current recommending is to turn off Battery Optimizations for the program.
I've done so, but only recently. I'm keeping an eye on it, but don't have a very good baseline since my 6p is only about 48 hours old.
Hello,
I dont really found centralized information about Oreo and feedbacks regarding battery life.
So please, people from Korea and North America, can you provide some feedback about Oreo update, especially about the battery life ?
I heard some negative opinion from this video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m5hH0TQY6Jg
Before he was at 5-6h SoT, after update 3-4h
Thanks !
It was entirely predictable and expected that there would be no improvement in battery life or performance with Oreo despite all the anticipation.
I have literally NEVER seen a major operating system upgrade actually speed up performance of identical apps on the same device. Sometimes there might be a non-significant decline, but never an improvement.
Each Android upgrade promises some new trick to improve battery life like wakelocks etc, but it's only theoretical and perhaps applies only to brand new hardware.
Otherwise the progressive process of bloating in updated apps and system software use more power and more resources which more than compensate for the supposed improvements in efficiency
I think the few reports that have mentioned improvement are just the random variation that people get, even with Nougat, or even day to day on the same device.
Sometimes I get 1% standby drain per hour and sometimes 3% with no change in use or settings. I have found no consistent way to control this, including trying all of the tips mentioned (except for wiping my phone and starting from scratch).
So far the video reviews that I have seen of Oreo on the G6 are pointedly unexciting and confirm my predictions. As far as I am concerned the only reason to update is for the security patches. I am hesitant to update given that going backwards is difficult on a unrooted device.
jshames said:
It was entirely predictable and expected that there would be no improvement in battery life or performance with Oreo despite all the anticipation.
I have literally NEVER seen a major operating system upgrade actually speed up performance of identical apps on the same device. Sometimes there might be a non-significant decline, but never an improvement.
Each Android upgrade promises some new trick to improve battery life like wakelocks etc, but it's only theoretical and perhaps applies only to brand new hardware.
Otherwise the progressive process of bloating in updated apps and system software use more power and more resources which more than compensate for the supposed improvements in efficiency
I think the few reports that have mentioned improvement are just the random variation that people get, even with Nougat, or even day to day on the same device.
Sometimes I get 1% standby drain per hour and sometimes 3% with no change in use or settings. I have found no consistent way to control this, including trying all of the tips mentioned (except for wiping my phone and starting from scratch).
So far the video reviews that I have seen of Oreo on the G6 are pointedly unexciting and confirm my predictions. As far as I am concerned the only reason to update is for the security patches. I am hesitant to update given that going backwards is difficult on a unrooted device.
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maybe some little improvements are made, sure, nothing big to say its a major update, NO!
is almost only a Android version bump and a security patch. PERIOD...
The features this new version introduced is low and people who update the phone dont will see a big change, i already see some videos of update in youtube and didnt see too much difference.
Of course is a good thing LG doing it but isnt night and day,is more like some hours of difference.
Lets see with time to time the Doze mode and power savings features step in and see some change in battery life, i trust LG make something to improve it, again nothing special but for me that already make a difference.
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I have literally NEVER seen a major operating system upgrade actually speed up performance of identical apps on the same device. Sometimes there might be a non-significant decline, but never an improvement.
Sometimes I get 1% standby drain per hour and sometimes 3% with no change in use or settings. I have found no consistent way to control this, including trying all of the tips mentioned (except for wiping my phone and starting from scratch).
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From my experience, I never saw an android update improve battery life too. But that was a long time ago, with "cheap" phones (expect nexus 4, so disappointed). But recently, a friend bought a Nokia 8, and after the Oreo update, the battery has become so amazing, I was really really suprised and so jealous! So now I still have a little hope ...
However concerning standby drain, for me it's pretty ok. In airplane mode lost 0 or 1% for all night, and with data or wifi, it stays "normal".
You guys have something else going on.like the first post said it depends on day to day and other factors like many apps running in back ground.My phone and battery have 0 issues.on full charge it stays at 100 for about 10min on heavy internet use and then drops about 2percent per hour.I only charge my phone every 3 days.I also found phone much faster after oreo and less studder.I suppose because part of the update is to have less apps running in background.I wouldnt really listen to some users because the change log for oreo is huge.Soooooo many changes under the hood.people should read the change log before giving false facts(and they are false)Always gonna have some dude complaing about something
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You guys have something else going on.like the first post said it depends on day to day and other factors like many apps running in back ground.My phone and battery have 0 issues.on full charge it stays at 100 for about 10min on heavy internet use and then drops about 2percent per hour.I only charge my phone every 3 days.I also found phone much faster after oreo and less studder.I suppose because part of the update is to have less apps running in background.I wouldnt really listen to some users because the change log for oreo is huge.Soooooo many changes under the hood.people should read the change log before giving false facts(and they are false)Always gonna have some dude complaing about something
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Did you make some improvements like disabling logs and reducing resolution ? Any reset after oreo ?
I disabled event logs yes.kept screen on large size and no resolution change.Yes I did a factory reset immediately after.I think alot of people are having issues with battery because they dont calibrate it first when new out of the box.As a rule of thumb no matter what electronics i buy i always charge to 100 percent and literally let it drain to 0 percent then full chage again.Do this step twice in a row and i can pretty much guarantee you wont have issues with battery that are out of the ordinary.LOVE MY G6
Tag49 said:
Hello,
I dont really found centralized information about Oreo and feedbacks regarding battery life.
So please, people from Korea and North America, can you provide some feedback about Oreo update, especially about the battery life ?
I heard some negative opinion from this video :
Before he was at 5-6h SoT, after update 3-4h
Thanks !
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I just got the upgrade on my g6+ batterie Went bad. .....I started to analyse battery usage and i found that chrome browser was one of the cause ..So i change it for Microsoft edge browser. ..now my battery is draining less. ....So i hope that did the trick. .......and i also cancel all other apps that i did not use
Almost 6h of SoT with heavy gaming. Doesn't sound bad to me. ?View attachment 4508939View attachment 4508940
It's strange that there is so much different experiences between people. This is not reassuring!
Tag49 said:
It's strange that there is so much different experiences between people. This is not reassuring!
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There are people that mainly use the phone under a wifi connection, and others that use it under a mobile network, this is just an example to give you an idea of why there is much difference between users
Y kllua but people are complaining regardless of wifi or mobile network. My package includes 6gb of network per month every month i spend 4gb etc...
And lots of people i see have bluetooth, nfc ( if they even thats in or what it even is. ) and then comes some1 like you and says ooo wifi on. What im gonna use at home ? Data ? To consump battery and empty my month data, and what im gonna use on streets, work, free time outside house etc. Mobile fking data. You think wifi is all around us
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Y kllua but people are complaining regardless of wifi or mobile network. My package includes 6gb of network per month every month i spend 4gb etc...
And lots of people i see have bluetooth, nfc ( if they even thats in or what it even is. ) and then comes some1 like you and says ooo wifi on. What im gonna use at home ? Data ? To consump battery and empty my month data, and what im gonna use on streets, work, free time outside house etc. Mobile fking data. You think wifi is all around us
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Well, my G6's battery sucks because at work the phone switches every couple of minutes to all the networks, and so I'm not able to reach home after 9-10 hours with 1-2 of SOT without charging a 20-30% during lunch, besides in weekends where I'm almost everyday under a wifi connection I easily reach 4-5 hours of SOT with gaming in a full day usage.
Also yes, there are many other parameters, like BT, NFC, GPS, Apps ecc...
So finally got Oreo thanks to LG Brigde.
The battery stock app seems really... broken ? Please see screenshots.
The message says : "2 days ago , 1h27min left the conversation."
PS : I made a factory reset after the oreo update.
Mine has actually improved! I'm getting like 30 minutes more (the improvement came after I drained the battery almost completely and charged it back like 3 times and after a factory reset). Not much but I can't complain. I'm actually happy for the improvements in fast charge speed, it's even faster now.
Third day with Oreo now.
Battery life is great, at least as good as before. I have 3.5h of screen on time right now and I'm at 43% battery at the end of a full work day with traveling etc.
And that's with Nova Launcher, Gesture Control [root], Always on Display and Pixel live wallpaper enabled.
Very happy with the G6 at the moment. Of course battery life always depends on your personal use and different phones provide better battery life for different people... G6 seems to work well for me and definitely better than the Huawei P9 I had before.
For people with battery life issues I suggest this: Battery life guide (I keep resolution at max because it messes with AOD and camera)
and also if you don't use google voice assistant try disabling the google app and use the chrome search widget instead. And keep location services on battery saving mode if you don't need GPS all the time.
Bethovenn said:
I just got the upgrade on my g6+ batterie Went bad. .....I started to analyse battery usage and i found that chrome browser was one of the cause ..So i change it for Microsoft edge browser. ..now my battery is draining less. ....So i hope that did the trick. .......and i also cancel all other apps that i did not use
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can i ask where you got the browser? ive been trying to find it in play store with no success, thanks