Here is my simple poll... I am not giving reasons to why I am sticking with 4.2.2, as many will argue against my points. This is a poll so if anything it is all about your reason not mine, and how many are going one way or the other.
Upgrading, just so I Could get rid of that ugly green battery icon
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Change is inevitable. .. resistance is futile
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Change is inevitable. .. resistance is futile
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Outside of some small issues with stock firmware, once ironed out, 4.4.2 is more hype than what Google is offering. Change is good, as long as there is a reason to. So far I have no reason to change unless Samsung releases Tizan to the Note 8.0, which will never come.
Already updated using the UK update. Glad to be able to save Google Play All Access music to my SD card now. No down side that I can see.
Polaris Office 5 "usable" (without the long stripe, not root)... not sure if I deleted that app before or installed with 4.4.2 but for taking notes on clasess is a big plus for me. :good:
been using civs rom and kernel and don't feel a real need to update. a new rom won't speed up my ebook reading and comic reading. so it's gotta be preety feature packed for me to update. I haven't even taken 4.4 update on my gn10.1 2013 yet either.
just notice civ updated... so I most likely be upgrading soon, lol.
No good reason to upgrade other than having all 3 notes running KK. Goodness, not a good reason. Frankly, nothing outstanding was gained.
Via my Note 3
BclingergFJ said:
No good reason to upgrade other than having all 3 notes running KK. Goodness, not a good reason. Frankly, nothing outstanding was gained.
Via my Note 3
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Ive found KK on the Note 8 to be smoother and a little snappier
I upgraded and I cant really tell if anythings different
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You can now upgrade without the need for flashing the Kitkat Knox bootloader.
Install a custom Kitkat rom of your choosing and then install this kernel and you will have wifi and all things working + some extra's.
for now only for the 5110
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You can now upgrade without the need for flashing the Kitkat Knox bootloader.
Install a custom Kitkat rom of your choosing and then install this kernel and you will have wifi and all things working + some extra's.
for now only for the 5110
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I have used your kernel on your 4.2.2 Flexbeam. I had issues with Miracast and Fat32 on SD card. Stock is the only way for me to have my cake and eat it.
There is no real benefit, unless you want a few features that you won't use. A properly setup 4.2.2 will work just as good as 4.4.2 without all the headaches. By the time I will need a feature that I don't have now, I'll be upgrading my hardware. Since my poll has been created, we have a definite split. Yet nobody can give good reasons to upgrade, outside of being newer is better.
Civato, since you are pushing your custom ROM, I have the right to say what I think about it since this is my post. I have tried your ROM before, and found good work with your efforts, but the features you provide are not worth having issues associated with customization of the kernel. If anything nobody not even google can not fix their media subsystem. So, having 4.4.2 for me would be undoing what I have fixed on my device, an I do not care to do anymore troubleshooting as I have done since November with my Note 8.0.
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I have used your kernel on your 4.2.2 Flexbeam. I had issues with Miracast and Fat32 on SD card. Stock is the only way for me to have my cake and eat it.
There is no real benefit, unless you want a few features that you won't use. A properly setup 4.2.2 will work just as good as 4.4.2 without all the headaches. By the time I will need a feature that I don't have now, I'll be upgrading my hardware. Since my poll has been created, we have a definite split. Yet nobody can give good reasons to upgrade, outside of being newer is better.
Civato, since you are pushing your custom ROM, I have the right to say what I think about it since this is my post. I have tried your ROM before, and found good work with your efforts, but the features you provide are not worth having issues associated with customization of the kernel. If anything nobody not even google can not fix their media subsystem. So, having 4.4.2 for me would be undoing what I have fixed on my device, an I do not care to do anymore troubleshooting as I have done since November with my Note 8.0.
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First things first, some fish slapping???????????????
I think you missed the whole point of my post.
Now as it is my right to answer you in YOUR THREAD. Here it is , THE WHY?
Sir,
I posted this info so any user Not wanting to upgrade to the kitkat bootloader that comes with the Knox counter and not possible to revert back to JellyBean Knox free bootloader, can now install a custom Kitkat rom and kernel and check it out. If they don't like it they can go back to JellyBean stock state with the Knox Free JellyBean bootloader.
clear enough.
Now my turn.
Watch my words, in the end 99% will be on kitkat as more regions are supported. I don't understand people. They b*tch about the late Kitkat update and when it finally arives they b*tch about nothing much has changed in UI.
Now mirrorcast is crap for me as it is samsung closed source. Im not supporting any propitairy thing as Android should be 100% open. If not I should by me a Apple.
your exfat problem? Not having it on kitkat as on kitkat they made it open source. On JellyBean it was also samsung propitairy crap so not ablle to really build it good into the kernel , for some cards then.
I have OTG with ntfs RW support , so easy to read out my big hdd. I have cifs, so easy to connect to the pc and read out a whole hdd of my pc.
I have dongle support what you may not find important but a lot others do.
I have supurb batterlife onthe new kitkat kernel and supurb speed that you will never get on stock kernel.
I can control any setting I want of my kernel.
If all people have the same attitude as you , root, custom roms , kernels, triangle away,..... would not exist. Buy a Apple is my advice to you then.
My 2 kids got both a Ipad mini and for them it is the best. Easy in use and really closed so they can't mess with a thing.
Oh and I'm not pushing my rom, I clearly say "a" custom rom.
Is this even my time worth ?
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First things first, some fish slapping������������������������������
I think you missed the whole point of my post.
Now as it is my right to answer you in YOUR THREAD. Here it is , THE WHY?
Sir,
I posted this info so any user Not wanting to upgrade to the kitkat bootloader that comes with the Knox counter and not possible to revert back to JellyBean Knox free bootloader, can now install a custom Kitkat rom and kernel and check it out. If they don't like it they can go back to JellyBean stock state with the Knox Free JellyBean bootloader.
clear enough.
Now my turn.
Watch my words, in the end 99% will be on kitkat as more regions are supported. I don't understand people. They b*tch about the late Kitkat update and when it finally arives they b*tch about nothing much has changed in UI.
Now mirrorcast is crap for me as it is samsung closed source. Im not supporting any propitairy thing as Android should be 100% open. If not I should by me a Apple.
your exfat problem? Not having it on kitkat as on kitkat they made it open source. On JellyBean it was also samsung propitairy crap so not ablle to really build it good into the kernel , for some cards then.
I have OTG with ntfs RW support , so easy to read out my big hdd. I have cifs, so easy to connect to the pc and read out a whole hdd of my pc.
I have dongle support what you may not find important but a lot others do.
I have supurb batterlife onthe new kitkat kernel and supurb speed that you will never get on stock kernel.
I can control any setting I want of my kernel.
If all people have the same attitude as you , root, custom roms , kernels, triangle away,..... would not exist. Buy a Apple is my advice to you then.
My 2 kids got both a Ipad mini and for them it is the best. Easy in use and really closed so they can't mess with a thing.
Oh and I'm not pushing my rom, I clearly say "a" custom rom.
Is this even my time worth ?
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I tried to be polite, but you took some of my explanation to using my poll as a solicitation, a bit personal.
I did praise your work and efforts. I am not knocking in any way your ROM, just making a point for those who are tempted to understand there is a price to pay for using a modded ROM. Maybe I am being a bit protective, but about 50% upgrading to KitKat are finding issues they do not want to deal with. About 33% just jump right in without knowing when there is a lot of info available here to read up on.
Sure, I did not read up on your ROM and Kernel, but I was not interested and did not want to point one thing over another.
I admit your ROM adds some speed improvement, added customization and what not. I consider myself a novice in the Android world, and have managed to figure simple tweaks to make my stock ROM perform better than most custom de-bloated ROMs. Yet the pros seem to have to push 4.4.2 every way possible, for whatever reasoning, personal or not.
The Note 8.0 is not a gaming device, yet peeps think benchmarks are more important than usability. I am just calling it as I see it, 4.4.2 tweaked or not, is not much better than 4.2.2 when properly setup.
Not to point my finger to your ROM customizations, but all non-Samsung stock ROMs in general... Miracast, SD card, and S-pen are the big reasons why I chose Samsung, so they also happen to be propitiatory, many don' t see them as an issue, until they need one or the other to work.
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I tried to be polite, but you took some of my explanation to using my poll as a solicitation, a bit personal.
I did praise your work and efforts. I am not knocking in any way your ROM, just making a point for those who are tempted to understand there is a price to pay for using a modded ROM. Maybe I am being a bit protective, but about 50% upgrading to KitKat are finding issues they do not want to deal with. About 33% just jump right in without knowing when there is a lot of info available here to read up on.
Sure, I did not read up on your ROM and Kernel, but I was not interested and did not want to point one thing over another.
I admit your ROM adds some speed improvement, added customization and what not. I consider myself a novice in the Android world, and have managed to figure simple tweaks to make my stock ROM perform better than most custom de-bloated ROMs. Yet the pros seem to have to push 4.4.2 every way possible, for whatever reasoning, personal or not.
The Note 8.0 is not a gaming device, yet peeps think benchmarks are more important than usability. I am just calling it as I see it, 4.4.2 tweaked or not, is not much better than 4.2.2 when properly setup.
Not to point my finger to your ROM customizations, but all non-Samsung stock ROMs in general... Miracast, SD card, and S-pen are the big reasons why I chose Samsung, so they also happen to be propitiatory, many don' t see them as an issue, until they need one or the other to work.
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I don't want to fuel a debate with this post cause that is not my purpose and is not helpful to anyone. However, just want to say that after reading the last few posts I feel that you are being a bit harsh on civato for posting some useful info. The post specifically states "any kitkat rom" and never mentioned a specific custom rom. This info is obviously aimed to anyone thinking about upgrading which is what this thread is about.
Personally I appreciate any additional info provided, especially from a highly regarded dev/contributor, that could sway my decision either way and/or make things easier. Glad civato took the time to post for the benefit of others. :good:
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Not to point my finger to your ROM customizations, but all non-Samsung stock ROMs in general... Miracast, SD card, and S-penare the big reasons why I chose Samsung, so they also happen to be propitiatory, many don' t see them as an issue, until they need one or the other to work.
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S-pen = Crap on stock kernel, as it is way off. A pen needs to be 100% accurate and not so and so.
Did you take the time to look at text pen cursor, of by 5mm, that is a lot. and that is rom problem. JellyBean and kitkat
Pointer is 3mm to the left (Kernel problem, JellyBean and kitkat) , again that is a lot for me and people that use the pen for what it is made. Else I would bought me a Tablet without the pen support.
The only thing you post that I can agree with is lossing Miracast if you use a custom kernel. I don't have any SDCard problems.
And yes the pen is why I buy samsung Note devices.
It seems that my info is still not clear,
You can TRY kitkat now without the feared KNOX kitkat bootloader. Revert back to JB without any problems.
Sorry for my to offer this to the users.
I think what you are trying to do is make believe that KitKat is crap, or you are trying to convince yourself.
It is well known that most people are afraid of changes.
Why start this poll if you are happy with what you have and not interested in updating. ...the truth is you want to see what the rest are doing and then be deluded that you are doing the correct thing. ..
There can be different uses for different guys and needs are different. .. so don't compare. .. do a back up of your current set up, try different roms and stuff,.... decide for yourself. ... you can always go back to your backup if you don't like anything you tried, ... but frankly, 4.2.2 was buggy and Google quickly updated it to 4.3 for fixing those bugs
Frankly you cannot sit on the beach and wonder how it is to be at sea.... you have to take a boat and sail the sea to know for yourself...
So unless you try the update, how can you come to a conclusion what's best for you?
Chill out and enjoy your way
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me, i already update my note, and super regret it, now, i have stupid knox, inaccuracy spen, nothing new.. so better wait..
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me, i already update my note, and super regret it, now, i have stupid knox, inaccuracy spen, nothing new.. so better wait..
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Try civs rom. .. it's great and fixes all the issues. ..
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kitkat 4.4.2 on note 8.0 has bugs?
After updating to 4.4.2 my note 8.o is acting strange. Some time my home button isn't working. Some time my capacitive buttons aren't touch activated. (Though interestingly its always working with the included stylus!) When the screen is locked the home button doesnt bring the lock screen back. i.e. it remains black even I press the home button!
Any one facing this problem here after kitkat update?
I'm wondering.
Since Samsung as of late have been focused on getting everything pushed to Lollipop, do you think we'll see some opinions about an update, or even rumor?
Maybe the full thing, who knows.
im interested too but...... i dont think its ever going to happen. samsung dont seem interested in the device at all anymore.
Given the cameras never even got KitKat it's very doubtful they will get Lollipop
If you ask this to Samsung, I expect them to say this:
"Galaxy Camera?"
"Isn't that that gimmick we released a couple of years ago?"
"An update to lollipop you say? Whahahahaha!"
"No."
But seriously: It never got past 4.1. I seriously doubt they would even consider this device for an update.
Samsung officialy stopped producing the K Zoom and put it EoL
so, no Lollipop or other updates anymore, even for exploit fixing
confirmed: no update
Galaxy camera 2 has stagefright!
Can we get a cyanogenmod build then ?
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Can we get a cyanogenmod build then ?
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If you can get a seasoned developer to work on it, sure. I set up a device tree for the GC200 at https://github.com/AWildColin/android_device_samsung_sf2wifi six months ago. I was trying to encourage some development on it (*cough* @Decad3nce *sneeze*) by getting a custom recovery working, but everything I built and flashed resulted in black screens and I never found a way to troubleshoot exactly what was causing that to happen.
Frankly, I'm not an experienced enough developer. Maybe with a lot more free time, I might get some where, but a custom recovery is still a far cry from a stable CyanogenMod ROM. You're welcome to try though. https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
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Given the cameras never even got KitKat it's very doubtful they will get Lollipop
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If I'm not mistaken the GalCam1 and GalCamNX never were upgraded from 4.1, and the GalCamNX was an almost $2000 camera. So no, I don't anticipate that Samsung will upgrade to Lolipop.
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If you can get a seasoned developer to work on it, sure. I set up a device tree for the GC200 at https://github.com/AWildColin/android_device_samsung_sf2wifi six months ago. I was trying to encourage some development on it (*cough* @Decad3nce *sneeze*) by getting a custom recovery working, but everything I built and flashed resulted in black screens and I never found a way to troubleshoot exactly what was causing that to happen.
Frankly, I'm not an experienced enough developer. Maybe with a lot more free time, I might get some where, but a custom recovery is still a far cry from a stable CyanogenMod ROM. You're welcome to try though. https://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_porting_intro
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Hi m8, did you ever manage to get a working rom for ekgc-200?
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Hi m8, did you ever manage to get a working rom for ekgc-200?
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Nope. The device tree is still on Github though if anyone wants to mess around.
we really need a Cyanogenmod rom for this camera desperately.. . what people dont seem to realise or care about for some strange reason, this camera has now a nunber of very serious security vulnerability that samsung has not addressed, it is so bad you should not connect to the internet with it.
im going to try to sell mine. pretty pissed with samsung, they never once realeases any security updtes for this camera!
So I have an old Note 4, the SM-N910T. It's worked great for years, but after recent updates it just keeps getting worse and worse. It constantly errors out, telling me System UI is not responding. It loses GPS every time I try to use google maps for directions. And several times a week (if not a day) I'll get the x over my bars and can't even make phone calls with it.
I thought about just resetting it to see if that would help. But if I'm going to do that I thought I might as well try a whole upgrade to whatever the best is currently out there for it. I currently use Cricket as my carrier.
Any advice?
Ps. recently things like my Bank App (USAA) stopped working for my phone. The current version is no longer supported. Would the roms out there let me use it again?
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Ps. recently things like my Bank App (USAA) stopped working for my phone. The current version is no longer supported. Would the roms out there let me use it again?
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Would grabbing the official APK file from an APK mirror make a diff? I am on Android Pie, Rusurrection Rom. It's amazing. There is a battery glitch tho that can be addressed while charging it to 100 percent in recovery. After that it appears to go away.
Why not go with a Pocophone F1 or the Redmi Note 7? Both of them are "flagship killers" and both of them are able to use the Gcam mod which greatly improves on the stock cam in every regard. Simply amazing to be honest.
I'm not that familiar with what my options are. I'd like to keep using the Note 4 that I have. I just don't know if there are packages out there that would work better then the default stuff that is one it now. It seems like the latest updates really made it run like crap.
I think I'm on Android 6 Marshmallow right now. Is there a way to get a newer Android version on my phone, perhaps one that runs better then what it came with?
why not root and flash the last rom marshmallow 6.0.1, and see if your problems go away.
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why not root and flash the last rom marshmallow 6.0.1, and see if your problems go away.
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I could do that I guess. I was just wondering what the best rom out there for my phone is? What do people recommend. I guess I was under the impression that there were more options now. The standard T-Mobile software that's on there now has just gotten worse and worse with each update.
I didn't know if there was a way to put a newer version of Android on an older phone like that. Or if I'm stuck with Marshmallow?
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I could do that I guess. I was just wondering what the best rom out there for my phone is? What do people recommend. I guess I was under the impression that there were more options now. The standard T-Mobile software that's on there now has just gotten worse and worse with each update.
I didn't know if there was a way to put a newer version of Android on an older phone like that. Or if I'm stuck with Marshmallow?
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depends on what version of the note 4 you have, there are nougat and orea clones if you will, what verson note have you got
https://www.phonemore.com/models/samsung/galaxy-note-4/
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depends on what version of the note 4 you have, there are nougat and orea clones if you will, what verson note have you got
https://www.phonemore.com/models/samsung/galaxy-note-4/
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I have the SM-N910T.
theres a few on this site and https://galaxynote4root.com/category/t-mobile-note-4-roms/
Hi all,
Does anyone know what roms are compatible with the Tab A 10.1 2019 version? I see a lot of roms for 2016 version but not for the 2019.
Running stock Nexus, and I don't have any complaints except that you hardly can customize it yourself. I have a bought icon pack but can't use it for example.
Greetings Rick
I've actually just flashed a number of ROM's for this baby in the last few weeks - there are plenty to play with.
I settled on this as I think it was the best overall:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...rom-nexus-stock-2019-galaxy-tab-10-1-t4056233
Have fun.
Thank you for the time to respond Where are you looking for when finding a Rom. Im on Nexus stock aosp based. But there are still some things I would like to see different. As I only use the tab for 1 game. Still chrashes, issues with keyboard. So I don't mind customizing it.
Greetings from Holland
Yeah it's a good tab, for its price. So I'm kinda buffels by the fact that there is hardly one on this forum.
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Thank you for the time to respond Where are you looking for when finding a Rom. Im on Nexus stock aosp based. But there are still some things I would like to see different. As I only use the tab for 1 game. Still chrashes, issues with keyboard. So I don't mind customizing it.
Greetings from Holland
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There are two other custom ROMs for the T510. LOS 17.1 and a Nexus version based on Android 9. I've been using the Nexus 10 one for months and have never had a crash or keyboard problem. Maybe it is the one game you play that has the problems.
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[/COLOR]There are two other custom ROMs for the T510. LOS 17.1 and a Nexus version based on Android 9. I've been using the Nexus 10 one for months and have never had a crash or keyboard problem. Maybe it is the one game you play that has the problems.
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Always a posibility, still i seem to have a habbit of trying stuff out.
Don't know if I should post this under OP but it's in the same line of it. Like I said love to tinker around with software for 10 years ago or something I got a budget phone that in the end would not update Android anymore so that was the moment I came to the conclusion that my model then was a better version of the original. Kinda like in this case, tab a 2016 and 2019 will differ in chipset etc. But tab a is tab a. So I started to go head in and toke a dive into the Android world, met some interesting people including the legendary Mr Carvalho. But... Im not posting this because I like to write or want you to read a book so let's cut to the case, im reading up a bit with customizing etc. Starting where I left off, installing ADB drivers again MTK drivers C++ all that good stuff. But then I kept reading, and correct me if I'm wrong but did you guys crack the code? The sometimes impossible to port source code? Or am I getting that GSI wrong. The software from the OD will be used to power the custom Rom so finding and combining code is almost a thing of the past? I tried to flash one last night to see if it really was that easy. Managed to get the tablet into a recovery bootloop. Installed the Nexus Rom again now the Los version. So I guess I did something wrong I think to know what it whas but before I make a paperweight from it, I think it's better to ask first.
So GSI, restrictions? Things to look for. Is it possible on this device?
Device is Treble ready
Supports A/B Arm
So it should right?
Off topic. This is a question for the Nexus Rom. Why are some Samsung features disabled? Like screen recording. Used multiple now all end up recording 0 or no internal audio. Other Samsung features like the camera, mail service etc. Only thing I'm searching for is the screen recording function with internal sound. Anny way to enable it or an alternative?
Thanks in advance.
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Don't know if I should post this under OP but it's in the same line of it. Like I said love to tinker around with software for 10 years ago or something I got a budget phone that in the end would not update Android anymore so that was the moment I came to the conclusion that my model then was a better version of the original. Kinda like in this case, tab a 2016 and 2019 will differ in chipset etc. But tab a is tab a. ...
Thanks in advance.
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Utter nonsense. The only thing "Tab A" tablets have in common is the name.
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Utter nonsense. The only thing "Tab A" tablets have in common is the name.
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I understand that.
wHEN TO PAY
So I would like to start by saying great job, I agree with house things where set in place in the long run, I would say lets wait on future runs, just because it was future runs that caused an issuee. Either way thqanks for the recommendations but this seems like it will be a judge appointed issue., i appreciate everything but+
I use the Nexus, Android 10, AOSP-based rom from Magedanz. I works great, I tried LOS 17.1 and LOS based Nexus as well, but settled on the AOSP based due to the lack of support of the 400GB microsd I have in my T510 from LOS and the LOS based Nexus rom not able to read my microsd. The AOSP rom read it just fine and was able to format it correctly.