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Just reply when you know the update is being sent in OTA so JCase can release root.
So if anyone intends on getting the update and not rooting,give us a heads up when you receive the update.
retroben said:
Just reply when you know the update is being sent in OTA so JCase can release root.
So if anyone intends on getting the update and not rooting,give us a heads up when you receive the update.
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Root already released by GeoHot via towelroot.com
Thanks for using this thread.
I could have also said to reply if any form of root becomes available to Fire TV before the OTA update.
I am already rooted,and have already fixed up my hosts file for blocking the OTA links using a hosts editor app from google play..
I would imagine an update must be coming soon now that a root exploit has been made public. Better make sure you're DNS settings are solid and best to root and block updates sooner rather than later.
For those who have rooted, you can run this command in adb shell to completely disable the updater:
pm disable com.amazon.dcp
You can verify in the system -> about it says "Checking now" for "Last Checked" on the update.
I just did that,and it said killed.
I still see the last date it was checked.
When should I see "checking in "last checked" option?
So in the terminal app I use to sideload other apps on my Fire TV I type:
adb shell pm disable com.amazon.dcp
Is that right?
I would try just
adb shell
and then at the prompt type
pm disable com.amazon.dcp
You might need to reboot to get the menu to change.
rbox said:
I would try just
adb shell
and then at the prompt type
pm disable com.amazon.dcp
You might need to reboot to get the menu to change.
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Does killing the updater survive a hard reboot, for example after a power cut?
If not, how could I set the command to run at boot ?
Thanks for all the work on this great device so far :good:
can't u just rename the updater apk to something else? btw what is the name of the apk?
Yes the pm disable is permanent.
Yes you can rename the apk, but why rename the apk when the pm disable is infinitly easier? The apk is /system/app/com.amazon.dcp.apk
I am using js terminal on my android tablet to sideload everything. How can I execute this command this way?
I tried adb shell but got an error. Thanks!
Nevermind, I found some directions for that!!!
rbox said:
I would try just
adb shell
and then at the prompt type
pm disable com.amazon.dcp
You might need to reboot to get the menu to change.
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I plan to disable updates per the above instructions, but are these commands reversible as well? If Amazon releases an update that brings additional functionality down the road, I may reconsider my decision to update (and potentially re-root with another method).
vyktym said:
I plan to disable updates per the above instructions, but are these commands reversible as well? If Amazon releases an update that brings additional functionality down the road, I may reconsider my decision to update (and potentially re-root with another method).
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pm enable com.amazon.dcp will, well, enable it again.
JPDeckers said:
pm enable com.amazon.dcp will, well, enable it again.
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Thanks!!
JPDeckers said:
pm enable com.amazon.dcp will, well, enable it again.
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This made me laugh :good:
Blocking URL's
Not ready to root until ClockWorksMod Recovery is available but want to be able to root when this is true.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2760884
Found this thread about blocking URL's. Seems like this is what is needed if we don't root until more options and tools are available for rooted FTV..
I am using Linksys E4200 and using Access Restriction > Parental Controls option. Pasted the plain text copies of URLS's which were transferred to router version below. Since URL 1's translation was too long I had to manually paste cut off ".net" in URL 1. Set access to always.Target Devices > Restrict Internet Access need to add FTV device.
Block Specific Sites
amzdigitaldownloads.edges.net ****Edit: this should be **** amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net ****
firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com
Schedule Block Internet Access
Always
Target Devices Restrict Internet Access
android-c770a088dec6570f
android-f28e25ac80891726
Android_A10000138BBBB8
Two questions. Not sure what FTV is listed as. Other devices showed up with name so I know not to add them. Guessed the three "android" names above that one was FTV. Does anyone know if this is correct and if correct which one is my FTV? If not correct what is is called?
For Block Specific Sites is the first URL necessary and does blocking it cause problems with some of the current FTV apps?
You are missing part of the digital downloads site.
It should be "edgesuite" not edges.
The amzdigitaldownloads link can cause services to fail,but services do not fail when only blocking the "firs-ta-g7g" page.
Even the PolarisGo app fails to work,but the website works fine.
retroben said:
You are missing part of the digital downloads site.
It should be "edgesuite" not edges.
The amzdigitaldownloads link can cause services to fail,but services do not fail when only blocking the "firs-ta-g7g" page.
Even the PolarisGo app fails to work,but the website works fine.
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I switched to only blocking firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com. This should be ok, right? What people at thread were blocking.
Used my router to find FireTV was 192.168.1.126. Checked Status > Local Network > DHCP Client Table
Saw that android-f28e25ac80891726 was mapped to 192.168.1.126 which FireTV said it was using. Deleted other entries.
I just bought a fire TV from best buy for my dad I'm about to set it up for the first time then root has an update that kills root came out yet or am I good to go?
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bradr00lzd00d1 said:
I just bought a fire TV from best buy for my dad I'm about to set it up for the first time then root has an update that kills root came out yet or am I good to go?
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I just bought a FTV last night from best buy as well. I booted it up and updated it prior to rooting it. Not sure if next week's update will patch this rooting method, but I do not want to make that mistake again. I updated my chromecast when they first came out like an idiot... and can't ever root those
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Thanks a lot for this nice tool (which came in too late for myself, alas). A couple of comments:
- Could you preserve timestamps of incorporated files? It would make comparisons to existing tools easier.
- I understand that ROM size is not an issue, would it be possible to make the debloat deactivations reversible? (e.g. pm disable/hide instead of rm - if something goes wrong there would be a chance to get back functionality)
- Five minutes seem a tad on the low side - I have seen more than that in a single reboot (when cache rebuilds took place).
Nevertheless: Very nice, I hope the tool will be useful to many people unpacking Fires from their stockings!
Noob
So I can run this on the stock 5.1.1 firmware by just downloading it to the sd card and install. On home screen open and it will root and install all that is listed?
Thank you in advance
Thanks for this! I just used it on my son's brand new Fire 7" tablet. I had to modify the .sh a little to run the script in Ubuntu http://pastebin.com/C1PXnqxa
egomaster said:
So I can run this on the stock 5.1.1 firmware by just downloading it to the sd card and install. On home screen open and it will root and install all that is listed?
Thank you in advance
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Sorry about the unclear instructions. I updated the tutorial. You run the script from your computer with your device on the homescreen. :3
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Sorry about the unclear instructions. I updated the tutorial. You run the script from your computer with your device on the homescreen. :3
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Thank you for clarifying. Will give this a try.
Thanks so much for the suggestions.
- I honestly don't know what you are referring to by this or how to do that, but I'll do it if you can PM me explaining it.
- Sure! I'll do this in the next version or the next, but I promise something like it will be done. :3
-I'll time it tonight and update. The script cuts off the cache rebuilds until the very end.
Thank you, the install went perfectly, this makes the Fire 5.1.1 livable until the bootloader is unlocked. I have encounter one thing, widgets cannot be added to the homescreen. Is this an expected issue or is there something going on with my tablet I need to explore?
JaboJG said:
Thanks for this! I just used it on my son's brand new Fire 7" tablet. I had to modify the .sh a little to run the script in Ubuntu http://pastebin.com/C1PXnqxa
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Thanks man. I really appreciate it. Your name has been added to the Thanks and i'll use a modified version based of your editing in the next release tonight.
Komet1 said:
Thank you, the install went perfectly, this makes the Fire 5.1.1 livable until the bootloader is unlocked. I have encounter one thing, widgets cannot be added to the homescreen. Is this an expected issue or is there something going on with my tablet I need to explore?
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I think I know what the problem is. It'll be fixed with the next update, which probably will be less than two hours from now. I appoligise for the inconvenience.
It's just sitting on daemon started successfully for quite a while, is this normal?
not sure what is going on, ran the script and everything went fine. however, the device is still trying to update. it seems like updates weren't blocked or something. i never let it install the initial update though that it tries to do when you turn on the device. i never even connected it to a wifi network so not sure how it can even update
google play services refuses to install as well. not sure what is wrong but seems like there must be some bugs in this script.
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not sure what is going on, ran the script and everything went fine. however, the device is still trying to update. it seems like updates weren't blocked or something. i never let it install the initial update though that it tries to do when you turn on the device. i never even connected it to a wifi network so not sure how it can even update
google play services refuses to install as well. not sure what is wrong but seems like there must be some bugs in this script.
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That's very odd. Can you attach screenshots and such so I can look into this? Also, try the updated script I have just updated the link too.
If you continue to have problems, adb sideload to start fresh.
I believe you may be getting confused with the "Updating your apps" screen, which is normal. This is android recompiling the cache for the newly installed apps.
What's the error shown when google play doesn"t install?
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It's just sitting on daemon started successfully for quite a while, is this normal?
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That's not normal. What OS are you using? Is Android Debugging enabled on your device and did you allow the "Accept debugging from this computer?" prompt on your tablet?
glitch3yf0x said:
That's very odd. Can you attach screenshots and such so I can look into this? Also, try the updated script I have just updated the link too.
If you continue to have problems, adb sideload to start fresh.
I believe you may be getting confused with the "Updating your apps" screen, which is normal.
What's the error shown when google play doesn"t install?
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damn, went and used the other install script for google play store and still problems
here is the error i get when it tries to update google play services
CAN'T UPDATE APP
Update for "google play services" could not be downloaded due to an error. (error retrieving information from server. [RPCS:S-7 AEC-7 OIKJ-IY4V-YMNYK]
play store is there and i can browse through it but i know from doing this on my first fire tablet that i need to update google play services. that will not update not matter what i try i get that error. rebooting no help
any idea on what i can do. it seems like i'm rooted fine supersu is there. i have no experience with adb at all
also, wasn't confused with updating apps at all. it was the FIRE screen saying software is updating to the latest version. it seemed like it updated though i have no idea how when not connected to wifi
knives of ice said:
damn, went and used the other install script for google play store and still problems
here is the error i get when it tries to update google play services
CAN'T UPDATE APP
Update for "google play services" could not be downloaded due to an error. (error retrieving information from server. [RPCS:S-7 AEC-7 OIKJ-IY4V-YMNYK]
play store is there and i can browse through it but i know from doing this on my first fire tablet that i need to update google play services. that will not update not matter what i try i get that error. rebooting no help
any idea on what i can do. it seems like i'm rooted fine supersu is there. i have no experience with adb at all
also, wasn't confused with updating apps at all. it was the FIRE screen saying software is updating to the latest version. it seemed like it updated though i have no idea how when not connected to wifi
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The Fire logo with "Updating Apps..." is normal. :3 It should be gone after two reboots.
As for the google play problem, It sounds like you need to clear the data and relogin to google. Was there anything relating to google play on your device previously before the script? You may have to be connected to wifi for google play to download updates, if you still aren't.
glitch3yf0x said:
The Fire logo with "Updating Apps..." is normal. :3 It should be gone after two reboots.
As for the google play problem, is there anything relating to google play on your device currently? It sounds like you need to clear the data and relogin to google.
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i haven't loaded 1 thing. i never even connected to wifi before running your script.
ok i went in and cleared everything in the google framework and play store, now when i try to open play store it just spins. will not load. any suggestions? no idea what the problem could be.
EDIT - ok finally got it. for some reason it just started working. i think there must have been a notfication that was showing which i didn't accept
Glad to hear! Usually the infinite spinning wheel means you need to accept the terms of use. :3
Everything worked fine, just one note that seems to be a side affect. I had a childs profile setup before running the script, now I cannot change settings or delete the profile.
I have a thing against having lots of apps in my app drawer that I never use. I always go through and disable ones that I won't need. Well, I disabled some of the ZTE apps like My Voice, and now I can't re-enable them. When I go to app info, it shows "disabled" on the list for the app, but when I tap it, there is an "enable" button that is grayed out.
I'd like to be able to do this without factory resetting the phone.
If you can get ADB running to connect the phone to the PC try this
adb shell pm list packages -d
adb shell pm unhide package.Name
peramikic said:
If you can get ADB running to connect the phone to the PC try this
adb shell pm list packages -d
adb shell pm unhide package.Name
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:laugh: looks like we are all here , by the way wont work (unhide command) needs to be " pm enable " and requires system access (root) "Permission Denial" , i try with a disabled app(s), just hope we get that update soon to avoid all this problems
P.S. yeah i'm the guy from ZTE forum
Haha good to see you guys!
Too bad on the ADB pm cmd, i was 50/50 on it working
I need to find a way to auto-post to both forums through :laugh:
biglilsteve said:
Haha good to see you guys!
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Too bad on the ADB pm cmd, i was 50/50 on it working
I need to find a way to auto-post to both forums through :laugh:
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LoL, good to see people from ZTE Forums here too hehehe and yeah this is what i get when trying to enable it back (using terminal app but is the with ADB)
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LoL, good to see people from ZTE Forums here too hehehe and yeah this is what i get when trying to enable it back (using terminal app but is the with ADB)
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Technically i went there from here
Looks like you ran directly from terminal emulator. I'm not sure, but ADB shell might run under a different UID and have more permissions. This might have changed in MM, but you could use pm command to grand permission to Greenify package on non rooted devices
Was there ever a fix for this? I am running into the same issue and can't re-enable apps.
imp3r10 said:
Was there ever a fix for this? I am running into the same issue and can't re-enable apps.
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Are you on software version B27?
xtermmin said:
Are you on software version B27?
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B20
imp3r10 said:
B20
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Update to B27 (and maybe factory reset). I'm pretty sure this was one of the things fixed in B27.
xtermmin said:
Update to B27 (and maybe factory reset). I'm pretty sure this was one of the things fixed in B27.
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Oh. I was putting off upgrading until I got root and there was more development in the phone to recover corrupt devices.
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Update to B27 (and maybe factory reset). I'm pretty sure this was one of the things fixed in B27.
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Are you sure about this? I have seen posts on ZTE board saying that apps can no longer be enabled/disabled with B27. With B20 you can at least do disabling (I am not sure about enabling).
some you can some you can't. you can disable ZTE browser, but can't disable ZTE calendar or ZTE messanger for instance.
For disabling apps, are you using a different launcher?
Launch the Stock Android launcher and disable apps through the app drawer - I've successfully disabled ZTE calendar and messenger on my device.
Re-enabling seems another problem altogether though..
imp3r10 said:
Oh. I was putting off upgrading until I got root and there was more development in the phone to recover corrupt devices.
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B27 can still be rooted and bootloader unlocked. No real reason not to update.
no such love for B27
mh127 said:
Are you sure about this? I have seen posts on ZTE board saying that apps can no longer be enabled/disabled with B27. With B20 you can at least do disabling (I am not sure about enabling).
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That was something else that was changed.
On B20, if you disabled apps in Settings > Apps, sometimes you would not be able to re-enable them.
(What you're talking about) On B20, if you use the Stock Android theme, if you press and hold on an application icon, there's a "Disable" option at the top of the screen that you can drag the icon to. Using this method, you could disable apps that you couldn't via Settings > Apps, such as the ZTE Calendar and Messaging apps. However, this allowed you to disable things that could cause issues with the device, such as disabling Settings or the Dialer. If you disabled apps this way, you could not re-enable them via Settings > Apps.
On B27, you can still disable apps in Settings > Apps, and people haven't reported having issues re-enabling them.
On B27, the "Disable" option in the Stock Android theme has been removed. So while you're not able to disable some stock apps, you cannot accidentally disable something that could break the OS.
xtermmin said:
On B27, you can still disable apps in Settings > Apps, and people haven't reported having issues re-enabling them.
On B27, the "Disable" option in the Stock Android theme has been removed. So while you're not able to disable some stock apps, you cannot accidentally disable something that could break the OS.
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Thanks - hadn't noticed that difference with B27 till now.
However, I've disabled the stock clock, and can no longer re-enable it through the App settings.
There does appear to be another solution (I haven't tried it though) - from the App settings, if you select the 3 dot menu on the top right, the option to reset app preferences should re-enable apps (and reset other settings as well).
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Thanks - hadn't noticed that difference with B27 till now.
However, I've disabled the stock clock, and can no longer re-enable it through the App settings.
There does appear to be another solution (I haven't tried it though) - from the App settings, if you select the 3 dot menu on the top right, the option to reset app preferences should re-enable apps (and reset other settings as well).
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Did you disable it back in B20? Cause when I look at the stock clock in B27 on my device, the disable option is greyed out.
Are you someone who just got their Fire TV rooted and don't know exactly what you can do with it being rooted? Or maybe you haven't rooted yet because you are unsure of what you can do with it rooted? Well hopefully i can shed some light on this with a little guide on things to do, along with some tips and tricks.
First let me get started by saying never forget to make a backup of your Fire TV via TWRP before making changes or tweaks. This is not to freak you out or disparage its just good practice ii have learned in rooting devices. I will cover TWRP later.
One of the best things to come along in the rooting world of android is Xposed installer. In short Xposed is a framework apk that allows users to modify/ customize their devices. This is not done by Xposed Installer per say but the modules that you download with in Xposed installer. So i will show how to install it, how to use and modules that will be beneficial use for Fire TV fyi mouse is need to navigate Xposed.
Xposed installation
1. We need to download the following BusyBox a program that most rooted apps are dependent on here Xposed Installer v3.1.5 here along with Xposed Framework x89 sdk22 arm64 here
2. Install BusyBox however you install side loaded apks. Open BusyBox and click the install button on bottom right. On SU prompt screen grant root access. As you should for root apps you install.
3. Install Xposed Installer, there is no need to open after install because without Xposed Framework installed it doesnt work.
4 Place the Xposed v89 zip onto Fire TV internal or external storage is your choice just remember where so you can point TWRP to it.
5 Reboot into TWRP recovery, choose install, point TWRP to the Xposed zip and on right side of options choose install zip. Let TWRP run its script when it says complete simply reboot and voila Xposed is installed. NOTE it is NORMAL for the first boot to take 10 min after Xposed is installed.
Xposed Tutorial and Modules
Open Xposed installer on be careful screen prompt click box to don't show again and ok. The 3 line icon on top left is menu button. Module option is where you can see and activate modules you install. Download option is where we search for and install modules. After you download a module Fire TV will prompt you to install. Note modules wont work until activated and a reboot.
Modules i find beneficial and know are SAFE are the followingBoot Manager- this allows for you to choose what apps start on boot.
RootCloak- this is designed to hide root app detection. Im assuming it still will hide root but could be wrong worth shot right
Xposed Edge- this is the FUN one that allows a fair share customs tweaks. My fav is remapping of remote buttons ie home button goes to alternative launcher, double tap home opens netflix. Which is great for 3rd party remotes that have a lot of buttons. NOTE There is a pro version as well Note- whenever you make changes in edge you may have to reboot for changes to effect.
DISCLAIMER be careful some modules may cause problems like bootloop and worse so research before you install modules to see if they are compatible
Other Apps
These are apps recommended or useful for rooted devices and for Fire TV useADBLink-allows you connect PC t to Fire TV via adb can install apks, push/pull files, run adb shell.
Easy Fire Tools- Android app that connects to Fire TV via adb can install apps from your android device onto Fire TV, transfer files and other features.
Root Explorer- these apps allow you to manage files but also a way to install side loaded apps, find one that is root friendly so you can access system folders if ever needed.
AdBlocker- we all know why we want one for all my rooted phones always been partial to adaway.
Alternative Home Launcher- who does like Fire TV launcher, really Karen of course you would!
TV App Repo and APK Editor- For those who do use alternative launcher i mention these because TV App Repo allows you to make bookmarks into apks. APK Editor to change the icon and name of TVApp Repo apks because the names and icons are generic.
TWRP
Finally the benefits and how to use TWRP. This allows users to make a backup images of device and ability to restore it when **** goes wrong. You can also do a factory reset.
Backup- after you choose backup from main screen choose select storage and choose storage then click swipe to backup. These can take a while to do seemed like 20 mins or so. Whatever storage you chose will be the default storage until you change it. Note- I have a backup image and its size is 4.5gb so id recommend you need some sort of external storage for these. If there is not enough space backup can not be performed.
Restore- performed same way as backup.
Factory Reset- Just wanted to mention don't forget if you do this and have a backup image on Fire TV internal storage you will lose it.
Hope this helps out
@g422
Thanks for the write up!!!
To be honest, the benefits of rooting appear to be somewhat underwhelming, at least, for the Fire TV. Not a single killer feature/application ...
I do know that it is more convenient to have root than not, but appears to be in pretty subtle ways.
My main use is between SmartYouTubeTV, and Netflix. If I fumble through the Amazon launcher, I am there, and life is good!
Am I missing something?
bibikalka said:
Am I missing something?
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Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
ldeveraux said:
Yes, you didn't read the OP He gives many examples of use for root, if those aren't valuable to you, then root isn't for you.
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Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
bibikalka said:
Hmm, just for the record, pretty much every tablet or phone (except a couple of real cheap deals) I have in my household are rooted! So I do see good value in root on those devices.
It's just that I struggle with root utility on Fire TV devices. As in - "why bother?"
I see that the OP likes Xposed Edge for button remapping, so if that's your cup of tea, that's a killer feature to get root for. I myself religiously correct Chrome look on tablets using Xposed/App Settings (link), which very few others seem to care about. But I want to see more of these killer features for Fire TV! Suggestions?
Btw, I am not being adversarial or critical, just very curious. Which itch are people scratching with root on Fire TV???
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I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
I took no offense to your comments bibikalka. I am inclined to agree that there is a limit of what to do with rooted fire tv especially compared to a phone or tablet. I started this thread to give back to xda who has kept my multiple devices over years rooted. Thread was also done in hopes of getting ideas to do and/or sharing of apps that can be helpful especially now that rooting is allowed for the general masses just not those who were able to jump on board early.
ldeveraux said:
I sort of see your point, but I think the root version of Mouse Toggle works, while the non-root doesn't. At least that's been my experience. Also, can you block updates without root?
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I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
#1 reason I root a fire TV box is so I can use large NTFS drives on the USB port.
Can someone point to me how to fix sd card write permissions. I tried xiinternalsd for xposed but when i open it goes to amazon home screen
g422 said:
I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
Imho top reasons for it are Xposed Edge Pro, ad blocking via AdAway (if you use the browser) and finally, the updates issue. While unlikely, it's not impossible for Amazon to get crackin and stop the use of certain third-party apps (NIMH is a giveaway)
Edit: forgot one important one, "debloating" the OS, whether by blocking the startup or disabling packages you don't want/need to give more cpu and memory to apps you do
Without root access, it's Amazon's device; with root access, it's now your device.
g422 said:
I used mouse toggle without rooted fire tv until i got air mouse remote. Yes you can block updates. If im not mistaken rbox prerooted roms block updates, go to check for system updates and should be stuck on checking for updates. If not go here.
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Right, so blocking updates only when rooted.
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g422 said:
yeah i just re read what ya posted i see what ya meant
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For a while, updates could be blocked without root, but Amazon fixed that hole:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/fire-tv/general/disable-ota-fire-stick-t3667978
But! You want to block updates so you don't lose root, so it's a bit circular. If you don't have root, you don't care, and just update as per Amazon otas. Btw, I do have updates blocked on my fire sticks
Anyway, please keep the conversation going! We should develop a good set of must have features which are only available via root.
The main reason I root now is to debloat. Go as barebones as possible in order to improve performance. I kill all possible services that are absolutely unnecessary. I've removed Amazons GUI and use Appstarter. I just like a clean fast experience.
Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Thanks for this but u all do know u can connect to a PC wirelessly via adb without root. It's the only way I have ever added apps to my stick. Find your sticks individual ip. Open terminal on a pc, adb connect ipaddress. Then adb devices, a prompt will pop like on your phone asking to allow device or not. Click always or yes whatever. Then u do adb install draganddropwhateverapphere. Loads up in seconds depending on apk size. U can even use your phone if u have the adb platform tools magisk module installed on your phone. I install apps to my stick from my OnePlus 6t
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Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
JUSTINMARMER said:
Ummm, or you know just use the Apps2Fire app lol. No magisk module or root needed. You're welcome.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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I am saying I never need root or anything to use adb and install apps wirelessly. I have done this for the past year with NO ROOT. Don't need it for sideloading apps. Adb connect ipaddress, then adb install dragdropapp from PC into terminal. No root or magisk needed. I always have a rooted phone and that's where the magisk module comes in. On a PC u can load them to a stick out of the box.
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Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
JUSTINMARMER said:
Yep, that's exactly what you said before. Not sure why you are repeating it.
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Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
fullofhell said:
Cuz u aren't understanding. If u read your comments, then mine, you would see it seems u think I'm saying one would have to have root to use adb install. U do not.
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That is 100% incorrect. I see now you have a reading comprehension disability. I can't imagine how hard that must be for you and I empathize.
Obviously root is needed for magisk modules. I suggested an app to help all those without root.
Bless your heart.
After working an hour or so, the android tv becomes sluggish or even frozen.
If I then use the remote to switch off, then it will no longer restart and the only solution is to remove and reinsert the power plug. Then everything is normal again.
Sometimes it works a few days without problems.
Cleaning cache and restarting apps does not help.
Not sure but I suspect only internet browsers cause it, not apps like HBO or Youtube, though they also become sluggish. I tried many browsers, and none made the problem disappear (some sometimes caused videos to severely blink)
Device is Thomson 43UE6400 made by TCL V8-R851T02, now v645 but tested many previous firmware versions.
Any help? Thanks-
You need to look at ram usage. If it's topped off, look at individual apps to find the culprit.
In Android I use Running Services in Developer options.
Thanks . My developer menu doesnt show such option, so I am looking for a memory monitoring app.
I will inform here in case i solve this.
If you can run the app DevChek, it does.
You need to be able to see ram usage, it's an important tool...
acrisito said:
Thanks . My developer menu doesnt show such option, so I am looking for a memory monitoring app.
I will inform here in case i solve this.
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You have to remove system app which you dont use for example google music
How to do it?
Download kingo root https://root-apk.kingoapp.com/kingoroot-download.htm
install it, open it connect wired/wireless mouse, press get root, wait for it to get root, if it is stuck at 90%, press back and an error will appear, close the app, delete kingo root from settings app section. turn off and turn on again you will see superuser app open find app section then select system apps and select one of them which you dont use then press delete.
marlen07 said:
You have to remove system app which you dont use for example google music
How to do it?
Download kingo root https://root-apk.kingoapp.com/kingoroot-download.htm
install it, open it connect wired/wireless mouse, press get root, wait for it to get root, if it is stuck at 90%, press back and an error will appear, close the app, delete kingo root from settings app section. turn off and turn on again you will see superuser app open find app section then select system apps and select one of them which you dont use then press delete.
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Not recommended. It likely won't root it and could load malware.
blackhawk said:
Not recommended. It likely won't root it and could load malware.
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I already tried it, no malware
marlen07 said:
I already tried it, no malware
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A trojan preloader wouldn't do anything at first...
Loading unknown firmware is high risk.
This one is already attempting to exploit known vulnerabilities to achieve root, not a good start.
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A trojan preloader wouldn't do anything at first...
Loading unknown firmware is high risk.
This one is already attempting to exploit known vulnerabilities to achieve root, not a good start.
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Its not a firmware, it just tricks the system to get root
marlen07 said:
Its not a firmware, it just tricks the system to get root
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This doesn't address the problem...
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This doesn't address the problem...
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Through adb removing system apps and installing them wont work thats the reason root is needed.