Disable android battery optimization mechanism - Samsung Galaxy J5 Questions & Answers

Hi, I want disable Battery Optimization mechanism fully.
I have put some applications like Orbot and Call Recorder to do not optimize app, But android was close these apps same as it put on optimize...
I use Greenify to put app in Hibernate mode and want disable android default battery optimization because it has problem (May just for me).
Is there anyway to disable this feature? With Magisc or any soft/hard way?!
Model: SM-J500H
OS: ViperOS
Android version: 8.1.0
ViperOS version: 5.1
Thanks.

amir.hz.karimi said:
Hi, I want disable Battery Optimization mechanism fully.
I have put some applications like Orbot and Call Recorder to do not optimize app, But android was close these apps same as it put on optimize...
I use Greenify to put app in Hibernate mode and want disable android default battery optimization because it has problem (May just for me).
Is there anyway to disable this feature? With Magisc or any soft/hard way?!
Model: SM-J500H
OS: ViperOS
Android version: 8.1.0
ViperOS version: 5.1
Thanks.
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Wrong thread, i don't know why you have such a problem, well i don't. Best way to do it, switch ROM's and see if problem still presist? @LenAsh can You move this thread?

RootingPro-18 said:
Wrong thread, i don't know why you have such a problem, well i don't. Best way to do it, switch ROM's and see if problem still presist @LenAsh can You move this thread?
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Hi, its not this ROM problem.. I have this problem in other ROMs even official ROM.

amir.hz.karimi said:
Hi, its not this ROM problem.. I have this problem in other ROMs even official ROM.
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Your battery drains fast? How old are your battery?

RootingPro-18 said:
Your battery drains fast? How old are your battery?
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Seems to drain fast and charge slowly... I think....
Its about 4 years.

amir.hz.karimi said:
Hi, I want disable Battery Optimization mechanism fully.
I have put some applications like Orbot and Call Recorder to do not optimize app, But android was close these apps same as it put on optimize...
I use Greenify to put app in Hibernate mode and want disable android default battery optimization because it has problem (May just for me).
Is there anyway to disable this feature? With Magisc or any soft/hard way?!
Model: SM-J500H
OS: ViperOS
Android version: 8.1.0
ViperOS version: 5.1
Thanks.
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Such a very rare issue.
Did you enable aggressive doze from greenify ?

amir.hz.karimi said:
Seems to drain fast and charge slowly... I think....
Its about 4 years.
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Man, 4 years? Change it now! Buy new one. I had to change after 2 years.

immortalized2018 said:
Such a very rare issue.
Did you enable aggressive doze from greenify ?
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Yes, I enabled this option.
I think its related to android battery optimization... Because I use Greenify recently, and before I use Greenify have this problem too.
Ex: I run Orbot and ACR(Auto Call Recorder) and these apps open sticky notification. But some times android close these apps and show a notification about "These apps drain your battery", But I set Not optimize option for these apps!

RootingPro-18 said:
Man, 4 years? Change it now! Buy new one. I had to change after 2 years.
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Is it really related to phone battery? I don't think so
I think its related to Android Battery Optimization mechanism and this have a problem... May only in my case...

amir.hz.karimi said:
Yes, I enabled this option.
I think its related to android battery optimization... Because I use Greenify recently, and before I use Greenify have this problem too.
Ex: I run Orbot and ACR(Auto Call Recorder) and these apps open sticky notification. But some times android close these apps and show a notification about "These apps drain your battery", But I set Not optimize option for these apps!
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Whoa hold up ! Disable this first hehe . It aggressively stops all your background apps.

immortalized2018 said:
Whoa hold up ! Disable this first hehe . It aggressively stops all your background apps.
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I said before. I have this problem even before install Greenify and also on official ROM.
Ok, I'll disable aggressive doze.

amir.hz.karimi said:
I said before. I have this problem even before install Greenify and also on official ROM.
Ok, I'll disable aggressive doze.
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Like your the only guy sayin battery is bad on all ROMs and you are still blaming standard android optimization.
Just face it that its your battery and you need a new one.
I have no trouble with any rom I use when it comes to battery on my j500f

garylawwd said:
Like your the only guy sayin battery is bad on all ROMs and you are still blaming standard android optimization.
Just face it that its your battery and you need a new one.
I have no trouble with any rom I use when it comes to battery on my j500f
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Same for me! Battery drained fast, changed battery all good. For the OP install app called AccuBattery from Google play, charge battery to 100% and let it dischage, you will see how good your battery is, my old one hade 35% life in it left, new on has 93%

garylawwd said:
Like your the only guy sayin battery is bad on all ROMs and you are still blaming standard android optimization.
Just face it that its your battery and you need a new one.
I have no trouble with any rom I use when it comes to battery on my j500f
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Please not I do not have trouble with battery charging or ...
I just trouble with Battery Optimization kill running application in background even if they set to Not optimize.

RootingPro-18 said:
Same for me! Battery drained fast, changed battery all good. For the OP install app called AccuBattery from Google play, charge battery to 100% and let it dischage, you will see how good your battery is, my old one hade 35% life in it left, new on has 93%
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I think out problems is not as the same!
I said Battery Optimization will kill applications they are in white list for Not optimize!

amir.hz.karimi said:
I think out problems is not as the same!
I said Battery Optimization will kill applications they are in white list for Not optimize!
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Dude, thats what optimization do!

amir.hz.karimi said:
I think out problems is not as the same!
I said Battery Optimization will kill applications they are in white list for Not optimize!
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It kills apps because the device cant handle it. Its 1.5GB of RAM on a 4 year old budget device not a new flagship which has tons of RAM and is able to keep apps open.
Your expecting too much from this old slugger.
The only way you can have your apps always open is if you get a new device which has alot more RAM

RootingPro-18 said:
Dude, thats what optimization do!
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Yes I know! But I put some apps in White list... Set to not optimize these apps!!!!
But it kill apps anyway....

garylawwd said:
It kills apps because the device cant handle it. Its 1.5GB of RAM on a 4 year old budget device not a new flagship which has tons of RAM and is able to keep apps open.
Your expecting too much from this old slugger.
The only way you can have your apps always open is if you get a new device which has alot more RAM
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Oh.... yea... I think about it before but forgot it....
Thanks dude. You are always helpful...

amir.hz.karimi said:
Yes I know! But I put some apps in White list... Set to not optimize these apps!!!!
But it kill apps anyway....
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RAM is too low dude, they get killed anyway! If You run app witch eat a lot of ram, your app will be killed, if you don't use your phone for like 1h your app will be killed! And you can't do nothing about it.

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Close program??

How do i close a program in the magic, i dont want it running in the background. Is there a prog like a taskmanager or something..??
Hi ,
Download "advance task manager lite" off the Market. This is a very very helpful app which can close all your programs running and very simple to use. And it is Free.
If you need anymore help feel free to post back
CLLC
There is no such app in my market. Can anyone share a free version? Thanks
parrot5 said:
There is no such app in my market. Can anyone share a free version? Thanks
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It's a free version. The actual name is "Advanced Task Manager Lite" so do a search on "Advanced".
I did do a search and can't find it. Anyone else managed to find it under Rogers in Canada?
I can easy find it. I use it every day, but i find it a bit strange that you cant close apps in any other way! And alot of programs doesnt have a "Quit/Exit" function.
Does anyone have any explanation to why its not possible to close programs without download extra programs?
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
CLLC said:
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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This is true.
It is because android is awesome at app management. There is no real need for closing apps. It leaves apps kinda open (saves their state in ram) but not running. That`s why most apps open so fast. And even though more ram is "in use" it doesn`t cost you battery life.
Thanks for confirming ,
What a fantatic way , The OS is fantastic and I can guarantee that Android has alot of potential and Can only get better and come up with more technological breaking idea's!!
CLLC
CLLC said:
you know,
I think i heard Something about when you leave the app , it does actually sort of close.
It saves the state you left it in (freezes) and unfreezes when you enter it again. So really the App is not running or using any comsumption at all until you are in the app.
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Oh i didnt know that!! Sounds really fantastic. I have to get used to a whole new way of thinking then, i think im too used to windows
Anyway. I love Android more and more. But i was shocked when i found out that you cant send or receive files via bluetooth. I hope this is their number 1. priority in the next released. I mean, comon .. phones have been able to do this for 10 years now!
parrot5 said:
I did do a search and can't find it. Anyone else managed to find it under Rogers in Canada?
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i did not find it either. i m using rogers too
but you can download Close Everything at Market for free.
i think those apps are similar. the only difference is you have to close EVERYTHING instead of choosing an app to end it.
anyway, the system is not getting slower even i open lots apps.
maybe, the "freeze" thing is true
yesterday I had my phone fully charged before i got to sleep, in the morning 8 hours later the battery was almost empty. GPS and WIFI was disabeld, so I think all the programs in the "background" ( a lot ) killed the battery.
Or what do you think killed the batt?
nevil said:
i did not find it either. i m using rogers too
but you can download Close Everything at Market for free.
i think those apps are similar. the only difference is you have to close EVERYTHING instead of choosing an app to end it.
anyway, the system is not getting slower even i open lots apps.
maybe, the "freeze" thing is true
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But I thought if you close EVERYTHING the alarm will not work?
foxman01 said:
yesterday I had my phone fully charged before i got to sleep, in the morning 8 hours later the battery was almost empty. GPS and WIFI was disabeld, so I think all the programs in the "background" ( a lot ) killed the battery.
Or what do you think killed the batt?
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that did not happen to me yet
if you disable background data usage in data sync that will save batt life and lower data usage too.
do not know if that helps at all
parrot5 said:
But I thought if you close EVERYTHING the alarm will not work?
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alarms still work (tested just now)
i do not know how that app works ~oops~
maybe it does not work at all hahaha
not all programs stop running. some are designed to run in the background
the only real way to check what is running is to use a task manager
I paid $0.99 for advanced task manager. Its a good, but basic app. And hardly breaks the bank at that price!
The other issue I get is "go slows" sometimes on the phone. It doesn't seem to crash, just response times go into the seconds. I switch off and on to soft reset and its fine.
nevil said:
that did not happen to me yet
if you disable background data usage in data sync that will save batt life and lower data usage too.
do not know if that helps at all
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Why should I disable data usage? If i have an app that use data, then I only need to close the app. Please correct me if I´m wrong.

Greenify now working without ROOT!

As quoted on their v2.0 update,
What's New
v2.0 (rolling out)
Greenify now works on non-root devices! Try out the non-root working mode (without automatic hibernation due to privilege restriction).
Shortcut "Hibernate All" can now be created also from main menu in Greenify.
Greatly improved the stability of auto-hibernation service, especially on Android 4.4+.
Bugfixes.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
Now if only they can get TiBu to work without root, I'd no longer have a reason to root my device..
Let me decide which apps / carrier bloat I want on my device (read: none of it).
Seems like I still can't hibernate some apps. I can't get it to work.
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Excellent but you need to close apps
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that is really good news, but what does automatic hibernation do?
ahomad said:
that is really good news, but what does automatic hibernation do?
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Automatic hibernation, automatically hibernate apps that you manually set to hibernate?
Oh yeah, guys, they are still rolling out the v2.0, I still have 1.99 so it still doesn't work.
rpcherrera said:
Automatic hibernation, automatically hibernate apps that you manually set to hibernate?
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automatically hibernate what I already manually hibernated? I am sure that there is something missing
or do you mean that it will re-hibernate the apps after opening them or restarting the device?
ahomad said:
automatically hibernate what I already manually hibernated? I am sure that there is something missing
or do you mean that it will re-hibernate the apps after opening them or restarting the device?
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Yes, it will re-hibernate the apps after opening or after using them. BUT auto-hibernation doesn't work with non-rooted phones.
Still waiting for the v2.00
Totally unusable without rooting.
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Only useful to stop battery drain if you know u will be without a charger four a long number of hours.
Otherwise more hassle than its worth.
What does the paid version give you? And is it worth it.
sveintore said:
Totally unusable without rooting.
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk
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Mine is working and my Z1 is not rooted, it just ask to force stop the application first, then it will hibernate the app. Check it again.
MSK1 said:
Only useful to stop battery drain if you know u will be without a charger four a long number of hours.
Otherwise more hassle than its worth.
What does the paid version give you? And is it worth it.
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Well, if you have any unwanted apps that runs on the background and eats the juice of your battery, greenify will put them to sleep.
rpcherrera said:
Well, if you have any unwanted apps that runs on the background and eats the juice of your battery, greenify will put them to sleep.
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My point is that it's more hassle to do all the force closing than recharging more frequently.
The only time it's really helpful is if u will be without a charger for a really really long time and you have no choice but to slow down battery drain.
I have root and Paid Greenify, my Battery is amazing and Paid Version adds nice Features.
MSK1 said:
Only useful to stop battery drain if you know u will be without a charger four a long number of hours.
Otherwise more hassle than its worth.
What does the paid version give you? And is it worth it.
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Paid is awesome - hibernated AND still get push notifications.
Best app for saving battery
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Once all apps are force closed by the app... The drain is almost zero.
There is an option to automate it
MSK1 said:
My point is that it's more hassle to do all the force closing than recharging more frequently.
The only time it's really helpful is if u will be without a charger for a really really long time and you have no choice but to slow down battery drain.
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There is an option to automate it (for non rooted). You still have to select the "hibernate now" manually but it will then automatically force close all the apps selected by you for greenifying..I have had this since about 3 months or so. It works only on my Xperia Z1 but not on my Galaxy Tab (GT-P3113) (which is on 4.2.2)
Beautyspin said:
There is an option to automate it (for non rooted). You still have to select the "hibernate now" manually but it will then automatically force close all the apps selected by you for greenifying..I have had this since about 3 months or so. It works only on my Xperia Z1 but not on my Galaxy Tab (GT-P3113) (which is on 4.2.2)
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Yes.
I use it frequently now.
That's a pretty useful add-on. It's turned a useless app into a useful one.

Hou can I make Android 6.0's doze feature not suck that much?

Hi,
I really don't understand how the doze system works on android marshmallow. I mean, it kills apps that I need, and leaves on apps that I need killed. I have done all the battery optimization exceptions from settings->apps, I have excluded and included in the keep alive after screen lock option in battery manager, nothing is working how it should be.
I want apps like Tasker and Automate It to work when i close the screen, but even if I exclude them from all things that could kill them, they work for only about 2 minutes and then bye bye.
Is there a setting I missed, or maybe an app that keeps them alive, or maybe some root underground terminal emulator magic I can do to fix this issue?
Thanks in advance.
sundaysfantasy said:
Hi,
I really don't understand how the doze system works on android marshmallow. I mean, it kills apps that I need, and leaves on apps that I need killed. I have done all the battery optimization exceptions from settings->apps, I have excluded and included in the keep alive after screen lock option in battery manager, nothing is working how it should be.
I want apps like Tasker and Automate It to work when i close the screen, but even if I exclude them from all things that could kill them, they work for only about 2 minutes and then bye bye.
Is there a setting I missed, or maybe an app that keeps them alive, or maybe some root underground terminal emulator magic I can do to fix this issue?
Thanks in advance.
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It's not Doze that sucks so much, it's EMUI's power management. It's overly aggressive in killing apps.
zgomot said:
It's not Doze that sucks so much, it's EMUI's power management. It's overly aggressive in killing apps.
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You're probably right, even though they fixed this in EMUI 5.0, but I don't like Nougat because it has an annoying bug, so maybe there's a fix to this for MM. I'll try to write to them too.
sundaysfantasy said:
You're probably right, even though they fixed this in EMUI 5.0, but I don't like Nougat because it has an annoying bug, so maybe there's a fix to this for MM. I'll try to write to them too.
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What annoying bug do you mean? I find N better than MM in almost every way. And now with B380 battery usage is amazing.
zgomot said:
What annoying bug do you mean? I find N better than MM in almost every way. And now with B380 battery usage is amazing.
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At random times, my screen won't turn on when I unlock it. I can hear the unlock sound, receive phone calls and probably use all other phone functions, but my screen stays black. I have to force-restart the phone in order for the screen to work again. It probably is a problem with my phone, but I'm too lazy to send it to warranty.

Very high "app usage" battery drain

Is it normal that the app usage drain is over 50%???
"Taschenlampe" is flash, and it was accidently on for 3h, so thats why it's 7%. But the rest??
Mine is the same.
Aj-jss said:
Mine is the same.
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Are you on mifavor 5.0?
Because of the status bar
Kantastisch said:
Are you on mifavor 5.0?
Because of the status bar
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Yes A2017V2.0.0B13 MiFavor 5.0
@Kantastisch,
Hi, are these APPs download from the third party or not? If you download many APP, there is no doubt such APP would cost your phone's battery. Also you can choose the better battery usage in the settings. It can be helpful if you choose the right battery save modes.
Kantastisch said:
Is it normal that the app usage drain is over 50%???
"Taschenlampe" is flash, and it was accidently on for 3h, so thats why it's 7%. But the rest??
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Are you running MF5.0 too ? If so, lock the app in system/app/flash/flash.apk or just delete it. I guess it's that one making trouble
I removed it in mine .
raystef66 said:
Are you running MF5.0 too ? If so, lock the app in system/app/flash/flash.apk or just delete it. I guess it's that one making trouble
I removed it in mine .
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No, I am running official 4.2
William Guo said:
@Kantastisch,
Hi, are these APPs download from the third party or not? If you download many APP, there is no doubt such APP would cost your phone's battery. Also you can choose the better battery usage in the settings. It can be helpful if you choose the right battery save modes.
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No, directly from play store

Nova 3i Bugs

Hi all!
I am a Samsung user genuinely. But since my last phone broke down, it broke my budget too.
Got Nova and here are some bugs.
1) Bluetooth speaker issue. the sound is way late than the video. (Edit: Fixed by going in developer options and changing "Bluetooth audio codec")
2) Camera is not having any kind of stabilization.
3) It hangs like hell and u r not left with any option. Not even restart.
4) Not the fastest 4gb ram phone.
5) The interface of the phone is laggy af ( can be fixed by installing 3rd party launchers).
6) Processor temps are never lower than 60 degree C. Idk if its fine or not but antutu temp sensor always shows it in red text.
These are the ones I could find... tell if u have any.. or at least have found fix for any of them.
BTW...
Today got an update of 288MB which is currently downloading. Hope it fixes some bugs.
Xial Xahab said:
Hi all!
I am a Samsung user genuinely. But since my last phone broke down, it broke my budget too.
Got Nova and here are some bugs.
1) Bluetooth speaker issue. the sound is way late than the video.
2) Camera is not having any kind of stabilization.
3) It hangs like hell and u r not left with any option. Not even restart.
4) Not the fastest 4gb ram phone.
5) The interface of the phone is laggy af ( can be fixed by installing 3rd party launchers).
6) Processor temps are never lower than 60 degree C. Idk if its fine or not but antutu temp sensor always shows it in red text.
These are the ones I could find... tell if u have any.. or at least have found fix for any of them.
BTW...
Today got an update of 288MB which is currently downloading. Hope it fixes some bugs.
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nova 3 or nova 3i?
jioleight said:
nova 3 or nova 3i?
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Its nova 3i... Ofc its mentioned in the post too
Xial Xahab said:
3) It hangs like hell and u r not left with any option. Not even restart.
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You can press power for 10 seconds for force restart right? It's it not working?
Supersonic27543 said:
You can press power for 10 seconds for force restart right? It's it not working?
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When i was stuck at it... I had to wait for the battery to die.... It wasn't working at that time..... For me anyways
Xial Xahab said:
4) Not the fastest 4gb ram phone.
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Take a look at screenshot
hinxnz said:
Take a look at screenshot
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Sold that **** out .... So... Am feeling blessed now?
Xial Xahab said:
Sold that **** out .... So... Am feeling blessed now
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Lol I kinda like mine, except for a few things I guess but I got it for a good deal, well I reckon anyway - $380 NZD.
What did you replace it with?
Hello! These issues, especially the Camera app being buggy, are common.
The performance issue, please go to settings > Battery > Battery Usage and see which apps are using a lot of background usage, then click on the app and there's written 'App Launch', click on that and toggle off the 'Manage Automatically' and also toggle off all of the toggled on things to prevent the app from consuming background usage.
On this device you can also disable/uninstall many apps that if u dont need, please do so, here are some list of apps you can disable which would improve performance:
1. Gmail (replace with another mail client like FairEmail)
2. Youtube (replace with another application like NewPipe)
3. You can also disable playstore and the main Google app.
4. You can also disable Google Play Services, this consumes a lot of background usage, more than HMS! You can replace playstore with F-Droid and you can get FOSS apps.
5. Replace Facebook with Frost for Facebook, or disable background access to it from the previous performance issue guide.
I am not getting performance issue on mine, so make sure u check which apps are using background/battery usage a lot so you'd find out.

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