I've been a diehard Samsung guy all the way back to the S5. I'm on the note 8 now and my wife is on the S9+. I prefer to have my device rooted but Samsung /Verizon has made it increasingly difficult with each new generation of phone.
I've noticed since I am on the Verizon network, there are not many choices to switch to that you are able to unlock the bootloader. Verizon wants to keep them all locked up tight.
In my research I have discovered that the 6T may offer me a way out. I also understand that it's not without it's share of problems. I've noticed many posts with people saying their texts do not work correctly. Many others said they had to call Verizon and tell them the 6t is not a CDMA phone and one member said Verizon would not activate his CDMA-less 6t.
I think I may still be willing to give it a try but one thing I noticed when I do a search for a Oneplus 6t on Amazon, every listing says NOT COMPATIBLE with Verizon. I think they are only saying that because the 6t does not have CDMA capability but it does have LTE and because of that it should be compatible. Am I correct?
I do not want to buy it if I can't use it on Verizon.
I just got my Oneplus 6T last Thursday. It is a tiny bit finicky about getting the drivers to keep working for unlocking, rooting, and flashing, otherwise once I had it set up, to activate it on VZW, I just had to log into my account and make the required CDMA-less choice online and BOOM, it just works.
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I just got my Oneplus 6T last Thursday. It is a tiny bit finicky about getting the drivers to keep working for unlocking, rooting, and flashing, otherwise once I had it set up, to activate it on VZW, I just had to log into my account and make the required CDMA-less choice online and BOOM, it just works.
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Ok thank you, that's very encouraging. Where did you purchase it from?
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Ok thank you, that's very encouraging. Where did you purchase it from?
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I bought it straight from oneplus online. It's the non TMobile dual SIM. Took maybe two days.
My Nexus 6 still works, but it's time and I'm happy.
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I've been a diehard Samsung guy all the way back to the S5. I'm on the note 8 now and my wife is on the S9+. I prefer to have my device rooted but Samsung /Verizon has made it increasingly difficult with each new generation of phone.
I've noticed since I am on the Verizon network, there are not many choices to switch to that you are able to unlock the bootloader. Verizon wants to keep them all locked up tight.
In my research I have discovered that the 6T may offer me a way out. I also understand that it's not without it's share of problems. I've noticed many posts with people saying their texts do not work correctly. Many others said they had to call Verizon and tell them the 6t is not a CDMA phone and one member said Verizon would not activate his CDMA-less 6t.
I think I may still be willing to give it a try but one thing I noticed when I do a search for a Oneplus 6t on Amazon, every listing says NOT COMPATIBLE with Verizon. I think they are only saying that because the 6t does not have CDMA capability but it does have LTE and because of that it should be compatible. Am I correct?
I do not want to buy it if I can't use it on Verizon.
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I'm on Verizon contract. I had no issue with getting my 6T on my line switched to cdma-less. Also buy it from OnePlus directly you can buy a warranty replacement plan witch Verizon will not cover cause they don't sell the device. I came from the unlocked Google Pixel 2 XL. I will never buy a phone from Big Red again. Unlocked and free is the way to BE???.
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I'm on Verizon contract. I had no issue with getting my 6T on my line switched to cdma-less. Also buy it from OnePlus directly you can buy a warranty replacement plan witch Verizon will not cover cause they don't sell the device. I came from the unlocked Google Pixel 2 XL. I will never buy a phone from Big Red again. Unlocked and free is the way to BE.
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Thank you guys. I agree with you both. I'm so tired of being under their thumb. I like having control of my phone and what's on it.
If I weren't a truck driver I would have already left Verizon long ago and tried to find a cellular service provider that gives me more freedom, but I travel to a LOT of backwoods places where, if I didn't have Verizon, I would have no signal.
Actually, being able to buy unlocked devices that work on Verizon is the ultimate freedom. The best phone on the best network.
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I've been a diehard Samsung guy all the way back to the S5. I'm on the note 8 now and my wife is on the S9+. I prefer to have my device rooted but Samsung /Verizon has made it increasingly difficult with each new generation of phone.
I've noticed since I am on the Verizon network, there are not many choices to switch to that you are able to unlock the bootloader. Verizon wants to keep them all locked up tight.
In my research I have discovered that the 6T may offer me a way out. I also understand that it's not without it's share of problems. I've noticed many posts with people saying their texts do not work correctly. Many others said they had to call Verizon and tell them the 6t is not a CDMA phone and one member said Verizon would not activate his CDMA-less 6t.
I think I may still be willing to give it a try but one thing I noticed when I do a search for a Oneplus 6t on Amazon, every listing says NOT COMPATIBLE with Verizon. I think they are only saying that because the 6t does not have CDMA capability but it does have LTE and because of that it should be compatible. Am I correct?
I do not want to buy it if I can't use it on Verizon.
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The Chinese version will not work.
The international version is the version that work. Buy directly from OnePlus to make sure it't the right version.
I'm using my 6T on Verizon with no issues.
Good point teddyearp, Verizon is the best network and that together with an unlocked phone is the ultimate in freedom.
Thank you tech head, I will be sure to get the international version straight from oneplus.
I did a lot of searching before deciding on the 6t. Am I right that the 6t is the only new phone that you can purchase in the US that is unlocked or can be unlocked and that is compatible with Verizon?
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Good point teddyearp, Verizon is the best network and that together with an unlocked phone is the ultimate in freedom.
Thank you tech head, I will be sure to get the international version straight from oneplus.
I did a lot of searching before deciding on the 6t. Am I right that the 6t is the only new phone that you can purchase in the US that is unlocked or can be unlocked and that is compatible with Verizon?
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There is also the Google pixel line from Google also. Like I said I came from a pixel 2 XL and I can honestly say since I got my 6t I haven't looked back at my pixel. Way more BANG for my buck. I could have purchased two of the high-end 6Ts (8gb ram and 256gb storage) like I have for the price of one pixel 2 XL. I paid almost $1,200 including warranty with that for a unlocked 128gb Pixel 2 XL. Now for my OnePlus I paid $629 plus a extra $150 for a 2 year warranty. I baby my devices but accidents do happen. Even though I never had one but just in case cause it's better safe then sorry. You won't regret your OnePlus I've been reading about these flagship killers for a few years and been waiting for them to be compatible with Verizon. The long wait is over.
Oh yes that's right. The pixel phones. My son, who is away at college loves his pixel and as hard as it may be to believe, even though I've always used android phones (android being from google), I am extremely anti google and would not buy a pixel. I like apple even less so I use android but I don't use chrome. One of the things I always try to accomplish when I get each new device, is to root it and remove as much bloatware and all the google stuff I can without breaking it. Plus I like to stop as much of the telemetry as I possibly can.
I really appreciate the fact that the oneplus has a much lower price and yet is still powerful. Yes the long wait is over
I can't wait to get my very own flagship killer!
bought my 6t one month ago to replace a pixel 3 xl. i do not regret it one bit. the 6t just feels better in the hand to me. popped the sim out of the pixel and into the 6t and instant working except for MMS and i got on the verizon website and did the chat (couldn't find the link myself for CDMA-less texting) and it worked within minutes. zero issues so far. (sorry for the run-on sentence)
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I just spoke with an awesome and knowledgeable rep from Google over the phone. He told me without a doubt that the N6 OUT OF THE BOX will work on Verizon. There will NOT be a special model made for Verizon and that there is TWO Models, A US & International Model THAT'S IT. He said anyone who buys from the Play Store can simply pop in their SIM and the phone will do the rest. He also stated if you need more confirmation, Just visit http://www.google.com/nexus/6/ and scroll the the bottom right and there you will see Verizon Wireless.
Some of us already knew this including myself, But i realize some of you are nervous about spending all your money just for the phone not to work. You are good to go!
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I just spoke with an awesome and knowledgeable rep from Google over the phone. He told me without a doubt that the N6 OUT OF THE BOX will work on Verizon. There will NOT be a special model made for Verizon and that there is TWO Models, A US & International Model THAT'S IT. He said anyone who buys from the Play Store can simply pop in their SIM and the phone will do the rest. He also stated if you need more confirmation, Just visit http://www.google.com/nexus/6/ and scroll the the bottom right and there you will see Verizon Wireless.
Some of us already knew this including myself, But i realize some of you are nervous about spending all your money just for the phone not to work. You are good to go!
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Im one of the many americans who live nearly paycheck to paycheck and cant afford to pay 649 for a phone off contract, sure id love to just not feasible in my current situation. 199 on contract is perfect for me because i can sell my galaxy s4 for around that and not have to pay any "out of pocket" i know in the end im paying more but this is just easier for me, than dropping 649 all at once. With that being said im gonna start saving for it and if verzion decides to delay that long i will purchase from google.
seems like tmobile is the only carrier i can see offering this on the home screen of their site.
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/31/nexus-6-working-on-verizon-out-of-the-box/
or there is this...
This does not answer the question that MOST people need answered....... We don't care if the play store version will work on Verizon......most people aren't buying the play store version outright.... We need to know if the Verizon version will be locked down..... Just because it's the same hardware doesn't mean that Verizon doesn't get Motorola to flash their own version of firmware that locks out the ability to unlock the bootloader!
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Im one of the many americans who live nearly paycheck to paycheck and cant afford to pay 649 for a phone off contract, sure id love to just not feasible in my current situation. 199 on contract is perfect for me because i can sell my galaxy s4 for around that and not have to pay any "out of pocket" i know in the end im paying more but this is just easier for me, than dropping 649 all at once. With that being said im gonna start saving for it and if verzion decides to delay that long i will purchase from google.
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You're actually saving money by buying a phone on contract if you are going to use it on Verizon. The only way you save money is paying full retail and then going with a cheaper pre-paid carrier.
Ive pestered verizon online and over the phone and can't get a straight answer if they will ever carry it. Im hoping we hear something offical. From a business standpoint I can see why they would delay it. But thats TERRIBLE for customers but verizon always gets the last word as seen in all previous situations. Im fine to wait until end of Novemeber but any longer I may switch carriers. Might even be some black Friday deals
I think the nexus 6 sold by verizon most likely is a locked phone, which is why verizon store is selling the phone later than other carrier for they need to patched the phone.
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I think the nexus 6 sold by verizon most likely is a locked phone, which is why verizon store is selling the phone later than other carrier for they need to patched the phone.
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I doubt it. Verizon's other high end phones have been GSM unlocked for the most part.
Verizon actually would take the least issue with selling a GSM unlocked device.
All of their LTE devices are sold GSM unlocked.
Because of the compatibility, this appears to be the first device they'll ever truly allow in a "bring your own device" fashion without pre-approving the IMEI in their database. It's good to see, and it makes sense with the push to sign customers up on Edge and the lack of contracts now.
Take it for what it's worth and with a hefty dose of salt, but someone claims to have spoken with their friend who's a network engineer and it sounds dodgy:
http://www.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2lhrm2/detailed_information_on_status_of_the_nexus_6_and/
Sounds like while it may work right out of the box with an existing nano sim, you may be screwed without an existing activated nano sim. Furthermore, it sounds like the delayed release on Verizon (check out the individual page now which only mentions T-Mobile, AT&T, Sprint and US Cellular) may be because Verizon is trying to change the terms of the agreement and try to get software specific to them and they may pull a Nexus One and drop it entirely.
I'm a bit concerned that even if I can get it to work from the day my GPS version arrives, they can at any time decide to block it and I'll have a phone I can't use on Verizon. If they pull that ****, I'll probably just leave for AT&T anyway, but the risk is still there.
Until Verizon officially announces something or is selling the device, those of us with a play store or motorola.com phone we've purchased are taking a risk it may not work or may work for a while and then stop working. And if Verizon decides not to "play ball" then what happens with radio updates? If there are radio bugs, we're screwed because they'd have to go through Verizon for that wouldn't they?
It would make sense if they didn't allow any unlockable bootloader phone on their network. But they are allowing Samsung to sell a dev edition Note 4.
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It would make sense if they didn't allow any unlockable bootloader phone on their network. But they are allowing Samsung to sell a dev edition Note 4.
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Like anything Verizon does makes logical sense?
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I just spoke with an awesome and knowledgeable rep from Google over the phone. He told me without a doubt that the N6 OUT OF THE BOX will work on Verizon. There will NOT be a special model made for Verizon and that there is TWO Models, A US & International Model THAT'S IT. He said anyone who buys from the Play Store can simply pop in their SIM and the phone will do the rest. He also stated if you need more confirmation, Just visit http://www.google.com/nexus/6/ and scroll the the bottom right and there you will see Verizon Wireless.
Some of us already knew this including myself, But i realize some of you are nervous about spending all your money just for the phone not to work. You are good to go!
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Just spoke with a Moto Rep and he assured me I'll have no problem activating on VZW. Seems like good news... now... white or blue.
Coop9 said:
Just spoke with a Moto Rep and he assured me I'll have no problem activating on VZW. Seems like good news... now... white or blue.
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Regarding the earlier point about whether Verizon will even carry the Nexus 6, I spent some time today at a local Verizon store looking at what my choices might be (like the Droid Turbo) if the Nexus 6 doesn't appear and asked specifically to the availability/timing of the Nexus 6 at Verizon. The manager wasn't aware of any date but did indicate they might not even carry it if the phone couldn't pass the Verizon testing and approval process. Not a answer that gives a great deal of hope but at least I didn't get the entire denial of any knowledge of status.
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If vzw pulls a nexus one to htc incredible or black list imes why don't people organize and protest the fcc. Vzw is a carrier. We should have any device on their network as long as it's not harmful and they must prove harm case by case.
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You would think someone would be in some deep **** if a bunch of us buy it for Verizon and then can't use it, especially when it says Verizon right on the Google play page and numerous of Google and Motorola employees confirming it works. I know were all tense about this but I really believe were all worrying to much. I know Verizons history as much as anyone so can't blame u but I say were gonna be alright.
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You would think someone would be in some deep **** if a bunch of us buy it for Verizon and then can't use it, especially when it says Verizon right on the Google play page and numerous of Google and Motorola employees confirming it works. I know were all tense about this but I really believe were all worrying to much. I know Verizons history as much as anyone so can't blame u but I say were gonna be alright.
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There's nothing on Google Play store saying it works on Verizon BTW... Not sure where you saw that... Unfortunately VZW can carry or not carry any phone they want.
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There's nothing on Google Play store saying it works on Verizon BTW... Not sure where you saw that... Unfortunately VZW can carry or not carry any phone they want.
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It is on the specs page as well as the device page (their logo) and was also mentioned on their blog or whatever. If it's all just to say it's /could/ work, then Google should honor returns well past the 14-day period because it sure as hell is misleading as hell.
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It is on the specs page as well as the device page (their logo) and was also mentioned on their blog or whatever. If it's all just to say it's /could/ work, then Google should honor returns well past the 14-day period because it sure as hell is misleading as hell.
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Interesting; I don't see any of that here.
My Nexus 5x **** the bed so I'm on a search for a replacement. I found what I think is new Total Wireless Nexus 6p for $385 at Walmart. I'm wondering if anyone knows if I can just pop my Verizon sim in and go or if total Wireless locks it.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Total-Wi...75035&wl11=online&wl12=55091210&wl13=&veh=sem
Any help is appreciated. Trying to buy some time to see how pixel 2 is after release.
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My Nexus 5x **** the bed so I'm on a search for a replacement. I found what I think is new Total Wireless Nexus 6p for $385 at Walmart. I'm wondering if anyone knows if I can just pop my Verizon sim in and go or if total Wireless locks it.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Total-Wi...75035&wl11=online&wl12=55091210&wl13=&veh=sem
Any help is appreciated. Trying to buy some time to see how pixel 2 is after release.
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I did some research and Total Wireless says all there branded phones are locked but there are several people in different forums that said they put a sim card in with different providers and it worked. I'm sure Total Wireless would say it's locked but I don't think that's possible with a Nexus.
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I did some research and Total Wireless says all there branded phones are locked but there are several people in different forums that said they put a sim card in with different providers and it worked. I'm sure Total Wireless would say it's locked but I don't think that's possible with a Nexus.
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I found that info as well. Even if it works, I'm now asking myself if it's worth it when you can get a LG g6 from b&h for $549 shipped.
Situation sucks. R/pickanandroidforme recommended the pixel but the cost and issues I've read don't sit well with me. But my LG died (charging port burnt up among other issues) yet I find myself considering the G6. ?
Anyone ever get an answer on this? TW aka Tracfone says they are not unlocked (rather than saying they are locked ??) but aren't Nexus 6p's all unlocked ? I wonder if these are new or refurbished also - nothing stated in Walmart ad. It seems unless they have had a special hardware mod to these or a locked b/l you could flash one with another 6p ROM and be good to go if it was locked (which I doubt). I suspect they aren't making a penny on the phone price so they just want to get monthly paying customers and don't want people to know they are not locked. Just my guess anyway....
Looks like a stock Nexus 6p to me...
I decided to roll the dice on this since I needed a new Nexus for Google Fi device to replace my recently broken Nexus 6.
Long story short, the device I received from Walmart appears to be a fully stock Nexus 6p.
I took it out of the box, enabled USB debugging and sideloaded the OTA 7.1.2 direct from Google.
It activated with my Google Fi SIM card without issue.
Total Wireless customer service doesn't know what they're talking about. The people responding to the questions about "is this phone unlocked?" are going off the same script for all their other branded phones. But some of the comments on the Walmart page state that people were successfully able to pop in a T-Mobile or other non-Total Wireless SIM. Price is now down to $365 thru Walmart, BTW.
I'm sorta kinda tempted to pick one of these up. I have a Moto X Pure that the USB port was getting wobbly on and I looked to replace it with something that has a fingerprint sensor. Tried out an unlocked LG V20 but returned it. Have an unlocked Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge at the moment but I'm on the fence with it.
Could you test with other carrier? I am also interest to use on AT&T. I would really appreciate it!
Thanks!
Sure Thing, Bud!
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Could you test with other carrier? I am also interest to use on AT&T. I would really appreciate it! Thanks!
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Oh yeah, let me get right on that for you, ok? Haha!
Read the posts. Carrier unlocked means carrier unlocked. These phones are barely still available. Get one before they are gone. Even the 32 GB Pixel XL (1st gen) is almost double this price ($670) and they will be relegated to the aftermarket before Xmas comes.
I'm sure by now anyone with an Amazon Prime account has seen the advertisements for the $399.99 LG G6 and G6+ which is a great deal, and it's enough of one that I'm getting ready to retire my iPhone SE and make the switch over...especially since I can lengthen the warranty to two years total. What I cannot find out is which version Amazon is selling when it's released November 9th, 2017 and if T-Mobile and/or AT&T users will still have the normal functions like WiFi calling (which I rely upon) and VoLTE on each respective carrier. I'd rather not buy a Prime device only to discover that it doesn't have the same features as a carrier-specific device has and this has me worried. Buying a brand new unlocked G6 would give me the two years of full warranty on the device and hopefully all of the T-Mobile features offered on the carrier-specific model even if the bootloader isn't unlocked. Heck, I'd attempt a FlashFire to get new firmware onto the phone if it were made possible just to regain WiFi Calling/VoLTE but wanted input from others before I decide to go this route. I'm also not opposed to grabbing something like the LG V20 from BHPhotoVideo as well since this is the route I want to go. If you guys have any knowledge that I haven't been able to figure out in the last week of research I'd appreciate it very much. Cheers.
They go in depth with this story,not sure if it helps at all.
That's one of the articles I managed to find, and it did help out in figuring out which phone I wanted to invest in but I didn't get much more info on the device itself. Because it's an Amazon device we already know that it's not going to be able to have an unlocked bootloader which really stinks but that's the cost of buying a subsidized phone through Amazon. I considered just buying the LG V20 through BHPhotoVideo for cheaper so there are no integrated Amazon advertisements and it has a better internal camera (as far as specs go) but having 12MP+12MP vs 16MP is a little too close of a call to make any kind of speculation, although having 64GB of storage with the V20 would be nicer than the included 32GB in the LG G6. At least we have a micro-SD slot to have more storage in both models, which means that if we can get the phone rooted then App2SD won't be a problem.
I just know I'm ready to retire and sell this crappy iPhone SE and move away from the insane Apple prices to get a better device with a less restrictive environment. My only hope is that the LG G6 has the same characteristics as my iPhone SE, such as WiFi calling and VoLTE. I know it has all of the right LTE bands so that won't be an issue, and later on I'll probably just give Amazon more money to ditch the advertisements. I just wish that I could find a $450 LG G6 brand new that I could unlock the bootloader on, and that's my conundrum. It seems that if you want the subsized Prime version it's only $399 but if you want an subside-free G6 you still have to shell out $200 more.
P.S. Thanks for the quick response.
im already planning on getting this but i wont be able till at least black friday at the earliest. it fills all my needs now that the U11+ wont be available in the US. the model number for the 6+ is LGUS997U so im hoping that rooting will be possible along with custom ROMs. l hope someone else takes the plunge first.
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im already planning on getting this but i wont be able till at least black friday at the earliest. it fills all my needs now that the U11+ wont be available in the US. the model number for the 6+ is LGUS997U so im hoping that rooting will be possible along with custom ROMs. l hope someone else takes the plunge first.
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I'm taking the plunge and it'll be here the day of release. Knowing Amazon's history with locking bootloaders it's already pretty apparent that unlocking it will not be a possibility but will still check irregardless in hopes that I'm wrong. At least I hope it can be rooted some how and figure out how to ditch all of the bogus Amazon advertisements without paying them another $50 to remove them from my device, and will report all of that information that I can find out on my own as well. The LG V20 directly from T-Mobile was my original go-to replacement but for the same amount of money I'd rather have the slightly faster LG G6 even if it is hampered by Amazon's crap. Considering I'm moving up from an iPhone SE this thing is going to be a massive upgrade.
EDIT: I've independently confirmed it will indeed have T-Mobile WiFi calling and VoLTE built into the firmware because Amazon did the same thing with the Moto G5s firmware that they molested. They might have injected it with Amazon bloatware but they did also include WiFi calling and VoLTE from each of the providers so there's a very strong chance anyone who uses this device on their home network will still have those features included with the LG line of phones.
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I'm taking the plunge and it'll be here the day of release...........
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YES!!!! im so envious of you!! i hope that they can be unlocked as the price is just far too tempting. im going to try and contact LG USA and see what i can get from them. good luck and please keep us informed, cheers!!
I'm looking at the LG G6 also. I've been a Nexus user and am still using the N5X. Now that Google has went overboard with their pricing and are no longer making any devices that are good values, I'm looking elsewhere. I've always been an LG fan. I'm looking at the LG G6 as the price on it is excellent. There are a good number of carrier unlocked devices available for just over $400 and I think we will see some good sales between Black Friday and New Year's.
I was also considering the Amazon version but I'm not sure how difficult it will be to get rid of them afterwards.
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....I was also considering the Amazon version but I'm not sure how difficult it will be to get rid of them afterwards.
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?? all it has is a few bloat apps but all you would need to do is flash another ROM. thats considering it can be rooted. im still debating on the 6+ or waiting for the HTC U12 which should be better than the U11+ or at least i hope.
Phone has arrived, is model US966, and even though is the international model still has VoLTE and WiFi Calling baked into the ROM. I've verified that it does indeed work as it should for T-Mobile as I have the Hanset + WiFi logo in my top left notification tray. So far it seems Amazon really did make this device into the most universal of all of the LG G6 devices that exist (aside from being unable to unlock the bootloader.
Amazon really put this firmware through the ringer..it does have mountains of bloatware that we can work around, but it works with T-Mobile WiFi Calling, VoLTE, and HD Voice (all confirmed by moving a dead zone in my house where I received full WiFI but could not obtain any indoor signal of any kind. I had several conversations that all sounded like I was standing right next to the person, and I had no cellular service at the time the call was made. Just as I suspected, they molested the G6 just like they did the Moto G5s into forcing it to support T-Mobile's feature sets and most likely the same for the other three providers as well.
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Phone has arrived, is model US966, and even though is the international model still has VoLTE and WiFi Calling baked into the ROM. I've verified that it does indeed work as it should for T-Mobile as I have the Hanset + WiFi logo in my top left notification tray. So far it seems Amazon really did make this device into the most universal of all of the LG G6 devices that exist (aside from being unable to unlock the bootloader.
Amazon really put this firmware through the ringer..it does have mountains of bloatware that we can work around, but it works with T-Mobile WiFi Calling, VoLTE, and HD Voice (all confirmed by moving a dead zone in my house where I received full WiFI but could not obtain any indoor signal of any kind. I had several conversations that all sounded like I was standing right next to the person, and I had no cellular service at the time the call was made. Just as I suspected, they molested the G6 just like they did the Moto G5s into forcing it to support T-Mobile's feature sets and most likely the same for the other three providers as well.
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Do you know if it's possible to pay to remove the lockscreen ads? Also, are the ads just on the lockscreen or do they show up in other places?
I know you can pay to remove Kindle ads at https://www.amazon.com/mn/dcw/myx.html
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Do you know if it's possible to pay to remove the lockscreen ads? Also, are the ads just on the lockscreen or do they show up in other places?
I know you can pay to remove Kindle ads at https://www.amazon.com/mn/dcw/myx.html
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Ads are on lockscreen and on the desktop, but the desktop widget no problem. When you unlock the device using your fingerprint though you never see the advertisements so it's not bothering me that much. I have yet to figure out if we can purchase the removal of advertisements though as I've only had these few short hours with the device, but every T-Mo function that you'd find on a carrier-branded device works on the Amazon Prime variant. If I can pay an extra $50 or so to get rid of the advertisements I probably will do just that.
In the mean time I tried to sign up for the second year of the LG G6 free warranty program, and since the phone is a US996 model device you can't complete the registration page. I e-mailed the help desk to see if we'll be able to register for the free second year of service as an Amazon agent said that there should be no reason that it shouldn't work. I will respond back once I get word from the LG team regarding the additional free year of warranty coverage.
EDIT: You can legitimately remove ads from the phone through Amazon but they want an extra $100 to just remove them. I'll wait on someone else to figure out how to hack the ads away from the firmware. I dig the LG interface though as it's similar to the iPhone layout and makes it easier for me to understand rather than having an app drawer like my Fire tablet does. The phone is definitely worth $399...not $499 though once you buy the removal of advertisements.
congrats @bmurphr1!! im happy it works well since like you i too am a tmo user. also, the model number is listed as 997U but you said its US996, is that right? anyway, i hope the bootloader can soon be unlocked because that would make this phone an amazing device.
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congrats @bmurphr1!! im happy it works well since like you i too am a tmo user. also, the model number is listed as 997U but you said its US996, is that right? anyway, i hope the bootloader can soon be unlocked because that would make this phone an amazing device.
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I did, but it's actually US997 according to what I'm looking at right now on the Hardware info screen. My initial statement was a typo because I was in a rush to get this phone up and running since I'm moving over from the iOS world. Model number is confirmed US997 and the bootloader from what I've been able to ascertain so far is that LG is not unlocking the bootloader for the phone because they were strong-armed by Amazon to lock it down so that it couldn't be altered in any way - thus making people pay the $100 just to have advertisements removed from the device.
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I did, but it's actually US997 according to what I'm looking at right now on the Hardware info screen. My initial statement was a typo because I was in a rush to get this phone up and running since I'm moving over from the iOS world. Model number is confirmed US997 and the bootloader from what I've been able to ascertain so far is that LG is not unlocking the bootloader for the phone because they were strong-armed by Amazon to lock it down so that it couldn't be altered in any way - thus making people pay the $100 just to have advertisements removed from the device.
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ugh!!... so its useless for those of us that want custom ROMs then? that sucks! i really hope someone finds a way to unlock it. i might just wait to see what the HTC u12 looks like. thanks for the info.
Just figured out how Amazon neutered this phone from being tampered with by individuals like us...they went and jacked around with the bootloader so that it freezes as soon as you boot into it. I'm very experienced when it comes to using fastboot on Android devices and I can tell you this bootloader has been tampered with. What happens is when you run "adb reboot bootloader" it reboots into the neutered bootloader and just freezes so that no commands can be sent or received from the device. If we could get the device-id then we could put it through the LG database, but Amazon found a way to mess with it just enough so that it crashes every single time you try to boot into it using the Android debugging bridge. That's how they crippled this phone so that no one would be able to flash new firmwares to the device or jack with it and remove their new found glory in LG devices. I'd love to be able to flash a non-Amazon bootloader only over to this phone to see if I could unlock it and catch on to something new but I'm too afraid to jeopardize my only working cell phone at the moment so I'd be worried about doing that. If the bootloader would unfreeze though and give us the code for a full bootloader unlock we could say byebye to the entire firmware OS and switch over to something like Lineage or better...assuming somebody has a kitchen that would work on an Amazon-molested US997 LG G6.
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ugh!!... so its useless for those of us that want custom ROMs then? that sucks! i really hope someone finds a way to unlock it. i might just wait to see what the HTC u12 looks like. thanks for the info.
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I saw this on the latest Amazon Fire tablet and that's why I returned it. Now you see why I was hesitant.
I'm having a hard time deciding now, but I'm going there will be some solid $399 deals between Black Friday and Christmas. Otherwise, I might just get a OnePlus 3T.
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I saw this on the latest Amazon Fire tablet and that's why I returned it. Now you see why I was hesitant.
I'm having a hard time deciding now, but I'm going there will be some solid $399 deals between Black Friday and Christmas. Otherwise, I might just get a OnePlus 3T.
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Amazon got smart and neutered all of their Prime-branded devices so that they can't be bootloader unlocked any longer. The only hope we have of actually achieving custom firmware on this device is by using something like FlashFire to perform a hot-flash on the device to move it to a non-Amazon firmware, which is what I did on my Fire 2015 (Ford) tablet that I still use occasionally at the gym to watch Netflix and YouTube when I steal their WiFi. If you wanted to buy the phone just to unlock the bootloader unfortunately you're SOL, but there's still a chance something could be in the works for this device.
Honestly, I'd rather see either a complete removal of the advertisements from the stock US997 Amazon Prime G6 or someone who was able to successfully flash a ZIP file using FlashFire to the G6 without completely killing it along with WiFi Calling/VoLTE/HD Voice. The first one isn't out of the realm of possibility, but the second one is just a pipe dream since I essentially require WiFi calling and VoLTE. We're gonna need to find a way to root this firmware and I haven't found a way to do so as of yet, though it is running Nougat 7.0 with the September security update.
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I saw this on the latest Amazon Fire tablet and that's why I returned it. Now you see why I was hesitant.
I'm having a hard time deciding now, but I'm going there will be some solid $399 deals between Black Friday and Christmas. Otherwise, I might just get a OnePlus 3T.
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why the 3T and not the 5T? my brother has the 5 and loves it. i refuse to buy a device without expandable storage so that leaves me with few options....... well, few good options. im just gonna wait till leaks of the HTC U12 start to circulate. if that sucks ill just buy the regular G6.
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why the 3T and not the 5T? my brother has the 5 and loves it. i refuse to buy a device without expandable storage so that leaves me with few options....... well, few good options. im just gonna wait till leaks of the HTC U12 start to circulate. if that sucks ill just buy the regular G6.
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Just the cost. OnePlus is upping the price with every release and I don't think the OP5 is that much better than the OP3T. Especially since I don't use my phone for anything crazy. My N5X still performs more than good enough for me. I have the GPU underclock and touchboost disabled to improve battery and still no lag at all. I really wish there was another affordable Nexus device. They should've come out with an Android One premium line featuring The 820 or 822 chipset.
I also received my Amazon us997 G6 yesterday. As mentioned earlier, the lock screen ads aren't very intrusive unless there are no other notifications at the time. If there are personal notifications like email, text message, missed phone call, etc. then the Amazon ad takes up about 15% of the lock screen. If no notifications are present, the entire lock screen is an ad. However, also as mentioned before, the double press of the finger print button makes the ads visible for the amount of time it takes to double press.
I run nova launcher and have not been bothered with any ads either.
Coming from big red on their lg g4 and having that special old plan, I did a SIM card chop with some cutlery scissors and made it a nano. Without getting too involved, an app like Foxfi is not needed on this phone. I will be keeping this phone primarily because of this. The price point, limited intrusive ads, 2 year warranty and not needing a special app previously mentioned have made this my newest phone.
Now i just hope lg has rid themselves of the nightmare Bootloop plague that has hit every lg phone that my family has owned.
So I'm considering ditching my V30 for the 6t. I'm a current T-Mobile customer.
My concern is whether or not updates will come at the same pace on the T-Mobile version? I'm not familiar with the one plus brand as I've only had LG phones for years.
Do we know if the T-Mobile version will be custom os vs the stock phone? I really wanna buy on Thursday but I'm skeptical. I'm worried about buying it and being stuck with a locked down phone.
I know about the bootloader issue and understand that aspect.
In general OnePlus updates are a LOT better than LG, Samsung, etc. The OnePlus 6 even received the initial Android Pie Developer previews.
As for the bootloader unlock, I'd not fret too much on that. It's been confirmed that as soon as you pay off the device and it's been active for 40 days you can request it unlocked. (That means only the 280 portion if you do the trade in.)
Honestly, it's a win win in my opinion.
Agree on the bootloader. Do you think the updates will be same on the T-Mobile variant? In other words T-Mobile won't slow down one plus by creating an artificial delay?
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Agree on the bootloader. Do you think the updates will be same on the T-Mobile variant? In other words T-Mobile won't slow down one plus by creating an artificial delay?
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Yes they will because it has to become "tmo certified". Small security updates won't be as bad
I think updates will be semi-timely. I believe OnePlus has only committed to Bi-monthly updates. However, they have committed to 2 years of major updates as well as 3 years of security updates. And as mentioned previously, the OnePlus 6 even got the Android P developer previews.
And with the tradein offer, 280 bucks is a steal. I'll pay mine off within a month of financing it, and then just request the unlock. From that point you can flash the global firmware if you so choose. A lot of people are making a stink over things, in my opinion, over nothing.
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In general OnePlus updates are a LOT better than LG, Samsung, etc. The OnePlus 6 even received the initial Android Pie Developer previews.
As for the bootloader unlock, I'd not fret too much on that. It's been confirmed that as soon as you pay off the device and it's been active for 40 days you can request it unlocked. (That means only the 280 portion if you do the trade in.)
Honestly, it's a win win in my opinion.
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From the chats I had with T-Mobile reps, paying $280 doesn't mean you paid off the device as $300 credits will be completed only after 24 months . So you can't unlock the bootloader until 24 months if you pay $280... You can pay $580 to get the bootloader unlocked and keep getting the $300 credits...
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From the chats I had with T-Mobile reps, paying $280 doesn't mean you paid off the device as $300 credits will be completed only after 24 months . So you can't unlock the bootloader until 24 months if you pay $280... You can pay $580 to get the bootloader unlocked and keep getting the $300 credits...
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I think that's a fair compromise.
1) Customer gets the phone unlocked (SIM & Bootloader,if desired) & gets a cheaper phone bill for 24 months.
2) T-Mobile doesn't lose any $$$ on the deal,but,this allows for you to use the phone elsewhere,or,leave T-Mobile altogether.
That kinda sucks...I almost want to purchase the phone from OnePlus. Not just because I can unlock the bootloader, but because system updates and opportunities at Beta versions of Android in the future.
Also, with T-Mobile you are going to have to pay taxes on the phone. While purchasing direct from OnePlus online, most buyers won't have to pay taxes.
There's always issues with these carriers! OnePlus direct for the win!
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I think updates will be semi-timely. I believe OnePlus has only committed to Bi-monthly updates. However, they have committed to 2 years of major updates as well as 3 years of security updates. And as mentioned previously, the OnePlus 6 even got the Android P developer previews.
And with the tradein offer, 280 bucks is a steal. I'll pay mine off within a month of financing it, and then just request the unlock. From that point you can flash the global firmware if you so choose. A lot of people are making a stink over things, in my opinion, over nothing.
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what people need to realize is that this is all done so the phone will work perfect with the T-Mobile network the current phone that is out right now does not work hundred percent it works only 75% of the time so everybody needs to just calm down and get the one that works the best for you when if you buy it from the company that makes it then you're going to know that it's only going to work 75% of the time versus 100% of the time on the network. That's why the T-Mobile variant is just a better choice. People need to be smart and listen to what OnePlus and T-Mobile are saying it's a great device and it's the same exactphone is what they would sell on their website the only difference is the antenna is built for T-Mobile
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what people need to realize is that this is all done so the phone will work perfect with the T-Mobile network the current phone that is out right now does not work hundred percent it works only 75% of the time so everybody needs to just calm down and get the one that works the best for you when if you buy it from the company that makes it then you're going to know that it's only going to work 75% of the time versus 100% of the time on the network. That's why the T-Mobile variant is just a better choice. People need to be smart and listen to what OnePlus and T-Mobile are saying it's a great device and it's the same exactphone is what they would sell on their website the only difference is the antenna is built for T-Mobile
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Umm can you please elaborate on this propaganda
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Umm can you please elaborate on this propaganda
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What he's trying to say is that the T-Mobile version has the 600 MHz spectrum/Band 71. The normal one does not have it.
But it's a stretch to say that without it, the phone would "work 75% of the time". You'd probably get 4G if you can't connect to the newest spectrum.
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What he's trying to say is that the T-Mobile version has the 600 MHz spectrum/Band 71. The normal one does not have it.
But it's a stretch to say that without it, the phone would "work 75% of the time". You'd probably get 4G if you can't connect to the newest spectrum.
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Actually, the unlocked version does have Band 71,as does the OP6, check OnePlus' website for yourself.
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Yeah um the one sold by one plus has band 71
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From the chats I had with T-Mobile reps, paying $280 doesn't mean you paid off the device as $300 credits will be completed only after 24 months . So you can't unlock the bootloader until 24 months if you pay $280... You can pay $580 to get the bootloader unlocked and keep getting the $300 credits...
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This is correct from what I know the 300 dollar credit is towards ur bill so long as you trade in an eligible device. It's independent of your EIP Balance.. When you do this the monthly payment for the device gets cut in half until u pay off the entire 580.. now if you do the trade in keep the 6t on the account for the first month...the 2nd month pay the remaining balance from the 580 you keep the bill credits till 300 is issued.. But u have paid the cost of the device.. Do not pay off the device during the first month or the credits will not be applied. Once u get to the 2nd month u can pay off the device keep your bill credits and request an unlock. Well 40 days on the network and u can request the unlock.
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This is correct from what I know the 300 dollar credit is towards ur bill so long as you trade in an eligible device. It's independent of your EIP Balance.. When you do this the monthly payment for the device gets cut in half until u pay off the entire 580.. now if you do the trade in keep the 6t on the account for the first month...the 2nd month pay the remaining balance from the 580 you keep the bill credits till 300 is issued.. But u have paid the cost of the device.. Do not pay off the device during the first month or the credits will not be applied. Once u get to the 2nd month u can pay off the device keep your bill credits and request an unlock. Well 40 days on the network and u can request the unlock.
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That's what I said as well...
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Umm can you please elaborate on this propaganda
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recent the T-Mobile variant is the great choice is because the antenna and software is built for their Network versus the antenna on the one sold on OnePlus. Com has a antenna that is meant to work with multiple Networks that antenna may think at times it is supposed to be on one network versus the next I tested this out because I have the OnePlus 6 and most of the time and tried to connect to multiple Networks and that makes it hard for the phone to stay connected to the network that you are actually on so in return the phone kept disconnecting from the advanced LTE network and not staying on that one and vice versa and low signal areas it was trying to connect to other networks that weren't even supposed to be connected to which makes it hard for you to even use the phone like a T-Mobile phone which does work without connecting to multiple Networks makes sense. So in return if you buy it from OnePlus it will not fully work with T-Mobile because of all these issues of it trying to connect to multiple Networks. I went to a place that had full service on LTE and my girlfriend's S9 plus connected perfectly to Tmobile cuz it was a T-Mobile variant but my oneplus6. No connection at all at the location because it's not a T-Mobile phone that's what the Reps would tell me and it was true because the same thing happened all over. This is why I stated what I said before
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recent the T-Mobile variant is the great choice is because the antenna and software is built for their Network versus the antenna on the one sold on OnePlus. Com has a antenna that is meant to work with multiple Networks that antenna may think at times it is supposed to be on one network versus the next I tested this out because I have the OnePlus 6 and most of the time and tried to connect to multiple Networks and that makes it hard for the phone to stay connected to the network that you are actually on so in return the phone kept disconnecting from the advanced LTE network and not staying on that one and vice versa and low signal areas it was trying to connect to other networks that weren't even supposed to be connected to which makes it hard for you to even use the phone like a T-Mobile phone which does work without connecting to multiple Networks makes sense. So in return if you buy it from OnePlus it will not fully work with T-Mobile because of all these issues of it trying to connect to multiple Networks. I went to a place that had full service on LTE and my girlfriend's S9 plus connected perfectly to Tmobile cuz it was a T-Mobile variant but my oneplus6. No connection at all at the location because it's not a T-Mobile phone that's what the Reps would tell me and it was true because the same thing happened all over. This is why I stated what I said before
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I haven't bought a phone from T-Mobile in years. All I buy are unlocked sim non T-Mobile phones, and I never experienced any problems ever
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recent the T-Mobile variant is the great choice is because the antenna and software is built for their Network versus the antenna on the one sold on OnePlus. Com has a antenna that is meant to work with multiple Networks that antenna may think at times it is supposed to be on one network versus the next I tested this out because I have the OnePlus 6 and most of the time and tried to connect to multiple Networks and that makes it hard for the phone to stay connected to the network that you are actually on so in return the phone kept disconnecting from the advanced LTE network and not staying on that one and vice versa and low signal areas it was trying to connect to other networks that weren't even supposed to be connected to which makes it hard for you to even use the phone like a T-Mobile phone which does work without connecting to multiple Networks makes sense. So in return if you buy it from OnePlus it will not fully work with T-Mobile because of all these issues of it trying to connect to multiple Networks. I went to a place that had full service on LTE and my girlfriend's S9 plus connected perfectly to Tmobile cuz it was a T-Mobile variant but my oneplus6. No connection at all at the location because it's not a T-Mobile phone that's what the Reps would tell me and it was true because the same thing happened all over. This is why I stated what I said before
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I'm sorry but this is the biggest crock of s#!t I have ever read.
If anything of what you said was true please explain how my Google Pixel 3 XL works as good if not better than my T-Mobile LG v30, T-Mobile Note 9, or my iPhone XS Max I bought from T-Mobile.
A phone does not randomly tried to connect to multiple networks, in fact without a sim it won't connect to any network.
Do you work for T-Mobile or something and just trying to push the OnePlus they are selling?
I'm ordering one directly from OnePlus and picking one up from T-Mobile, once I have both I will gladly prove you wrong.
The OnePlus 6t from T-Mobile USA is a grate phone don't get me wrong but OnePlus should have nto let them lock the bootloader. Come one the process to get it unlocked is bad you have to get the Sim card slot unlocked by TMobile then go to OnePlus com to unlock the bootloader and I did that and it did not work to get the code from OnePlus it's been like 2 weeks for me waiting from them and calling to get it resolved. So I'm righting this to ask everyone to pleas help me out by pleas giving me a there unlock code after they use it on there phone so I can install havoc os 2.0 on the op 6t. What in and getting this code from OnePlus does not work and they say it's going to come but never does for me.
I'm going to guess that the unlock code is phone-specific and tied to the IMEI. I seriously doubt that OnePlus and T-Mobile would have accepted a bootloader unlock that could be duplicated so easily.
Your best bet for recourse here is to continue to hold OnePlus and T-Mobile accountable for the delays. I got my code in right around a week and that seems to be the norm from other reports. If T-Mobile has granted your bootloader unlock through the proper channels, and if you really have been waiting an abnormally long time, there should be no reason why they are taking longer in your case. If you have to, take to social media like Twitter and the forums where the issue can be seen by others who might be considering purchasing the phone through T-Mobile and who might be swayed to go another route.
The codes are unique to each phone; someone else's code won't help you.
Why not return the phone and buy direct from OnePlus?
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The codes are unique to each phone; someone else's code won't help you.
Why not return the phone and buy direct from OnePlus?
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Can't return the phone because I have had the phone for two months
Looks like you have to wait, then. Sorry!
I don't understand why anybody interested in modding their phone would by from T-Mo, since the need to go through the unlock process was well documented.
You could also sell it and buy a new one from OnePlus but of course you will take a financial hit.
Good luck!
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Looks like you have to wait, then. Sorry!
I don't understand why anybody interested in modding their phone would by from T-Mo, since the need to go through the unlock process was well documented.
You could also sell it and buy a new one from OnePlus but of course you will take a financial hit.
Good luck!
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The resion I bought the phone from them is because the way it connects to the network is better then when it was bought from oneplus. I know it's the same phone and antenna but it's just something that makes the phone work better and I think it's because it's certified buy TMobile. Don't know thou
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The resion I bought the phone from them is because the way it connects to the network is better then when it was bought from oneplus. I know it's the same phone and antenna but it's just something that makes the phone work better and I think it's because it's certified buy TMobile. Don't know thou
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What? This makes literally no sense. It's the same phone just different software an international model will work 100% the same on T-Mobile. And dude spell check is your friend that is a mess.
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What? This makes literally no sense. It's the same phone just different software an international model will work 100% the same on T-Mobile. And dude spell check is your friend that is a mess.
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Not really man sorry to burst your bubble but OnePlus sead that had to change things in the phone to work 100% on the TMobile network. Would not say what they did.
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Not really man sorry to burst your bubble but OnePlus sead that had to change things in the phone to work 100% on the TMobile network. Would not say what they did.
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Link? Because I'm certain this is not true otherwise people would not be able to use international on T-Mobile or any other non T-Mobile phone on T-Mobile.
So much garbage in this thread. I'm on the TMO version, running international firmware, and it's flawless. Not a single problem getting sim unlock and bootloader unlock (not to mention that my phone is NOT paid off), and there are many others with the same experience. Do better. It's not that hard.
I got my phone Sim unlocked within 2 days of getting in on November 1st. Didn't have to make any payments on it or anything. Soon as I was Sim unlocked I submitted my request for unlock token. By 11/8 I was Sim and bootloader unlocked. Been running international firmware since. Haven't looked back. International firmware SO much better then what tmo provides.
If it's been two weeks since sending to OP I'd be on them asking for a status and a reason for the lengthy delay. OP has stated the unlock token is 7 day waiting period and I got mine right at day 7. I'd hound them for a reason and request a unlock token asap
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I am a trucker (READ: DRIVE THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY!) who had the TMO OOS 3 WEEKS before sitting down to swap it away! Have been with the unbranded one now for the best part of another 3 weeks, and all i can say that all that "optimized" mumbo jumbo works to a degree, from what i can tell from this dude!
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So much garbage in this thread. I'm on the TMO version, running international firmware, and it's flawless. Not a single problem getting sim unlock and bootloader unlock (not to mention that my phone is NOT paid off), and there are many others with the same experience. Do better. It's not that hard.
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Damn so I tried once asking tmo to unlock sim but they told me to pay it off first....but next time what I will say is I'm leaving the country for a couple months and I need the sim unlocked....you think that'll work?lol