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Install latest youtube on FireOS 4.5.3 and be able to login WITHOUT ROOT(!!!)

I am running FireOS 4.5.3 on Fire HDX 7" and it is not (and never has been) rooted.
Settings > Applications > Apps from unknown sources is On
I have the file manager with zip support installed.
Uninstall any versions of the 5 apks mentioned below.
Download this zip file:
https://mega.co.nz/#!OItCnSSA!VqBqlbwUa3h5VR0bmIXmRVBq4UeYo5bhBmzmflml3Vk
Open or extract it and install the apks in this order:
account manager 4.0.3
framework 4.0.4
play services 7.3.29
playstore 4.3.10
youtube 10.16.53
Reboot the tablet.
Go to youtube and you should get that normal google account login screen.
Login and presto! There you have it latest youtube apk with sign in ability.
Hasn't crashed on me (yet), but play store does not work (I've tried a few versions).
Yes I am aware of that youtube app with the blue icon in the amazon app store but I wasn't satisfied with it.
I haven't tried any other google apps yet with this combo.
I really hope this works for others. I just spent the last 5-6 hours figuring this out and it's now nearly 2am.

works for me

Youtube works.
Not for playstore gmail.

Oh that's cool I'm glad it's worked for others.
I just wanted to give something back to this forum cause I've gone to it so many times myself.

Found a gmail apk that works

Don't want to burst your bubble, but someone already figured out how to get YouTube to work on unrooted devices (along with other Google apps): http://forum.xda-developers.com/kindle-fire-hdx/themes-apps/how-to-install-gapps-root-t2954372

Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol

Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?

kkcheong said:
Thanks. Works for me. How about Chrome?
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Chrome should work regardless of framework (at least it did last time I tried). If not try Opera. Same underlying engine (Chromium) with a different skin.

mrw187 said:
Yes true but that guy (at end of thread) is 4.5.2 and has to execute some kinda command I don't. Lemme have my glory! Lol
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That command is for Google+ to work. It's not needed if you don't use G+. But at least you provided newer versions.

Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.

Burr11 said:
Is it just me, or does doing this break other apps? Skype won't work properly (no contacts or message history), TuneIn radio won't even get past the initial screen. Why is this happening? Sorry I'm new to this stuff.
I should add that uninstalling these packages then causes everything to work again, so it does seem to be causing it.
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Installing Google framework/services/store/etc on Fire OS is always a crap shoot as Amazon has its own set of conflicting services. Many get it to work (at least partially) while others experience problems. Installing framework/services on an unrooted device presents additional challenges....but also adds a layer of safety as you can typically install/experiment/uninstall without serious consequences. Unfortunately, I don't have an answer to your current situation; responding to "why is this happening?". You'll probably get it to work eventually with help from others.

That makes sense. I did manage to get Skype 5.1 working but anything after that breaks. Must have added a new feature since then that gets into that services conflict you mention. No luck with TuneIn, though I found an alternative for that.

Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.

myke66 said:
Any word on a working play store app? Wife got a Fire Tablet today on 4.5.3 and so far its unrootable and most google things arent working. Thinking about a new tablet at this point.
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If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).

Davey126 said:
If your family is looking for unfettered access to the play store you should definitely look for another device. It will be awhile before alternative roms become available to newer Kindles and most play store implementations are hacks at best. While the hardware is wonderful you really have to be wed to the Amazon ecosystem to truly appreciate the device (or be fortunate enough to have an 'older' model that can be rooted/unlocked and run a Google friendly rom).
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I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.

myke66 said:
I appreciate the frank reply. I was able to set her up with Chrome and Gmail which were her main concerns. The 1Mobile 3rd party marketplace had any of the other apps she was looking for. I also finished moving all her books over so she's going to take it for a spin this weekend when we head to the beach for a night and see how it goes.
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If you are comfortable with 1moble (one of my favorite 'alternative' marketplaces) then many of the shortcomings inherent with the Amazon store can be mitigated. Chrome (more often Gmail) can get fussy without google services/framework. Opera is a nice alternative that utilizes the same core engine as Chrome. Gmail is a little tougher to directly emulate; plenty of alternatives if the Gmail app coughs up a fur ball (I happen to like Aquamail). You really don't need root but if you choose to do so Xposed framework adds a few nice touches that can further tame an HDX without compromising native functionality.
Hope it works out for you folks.

You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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lekofraggle said:
You can run Google services framework without root. People have been having issues with the newer builds however. If it does not work for you, try build version 7.0.99.
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That will work for now (thanks @lekofraggle for the tip) but be aware Google is quickly adapting apps to leverage capabilities introduced in newer builds of services framework. For now that appears confined to Maps and Google Now (eg: card features) and primarly targets Lollipop.

You are welcome. I know about the impending issue with Google play services. Hopefully they fix the issues soon. Google maps works for now but complains.
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Really hate the new play store design

I really don't like the new play store design. First off, I can't see everything from left to right because I guess my phone screen isn't wide enough or maybe the custom dpi i'm using is throwing it off. I know I could turn the phone on it's side and that would solve this problem, but I prefer to keep it vertical. Secondly, I hate having to swipe left and right to scroll through the apps available in each category. I guess I just prefer to old school up and down method. I have tried reverting to version 5.10 with the old school design, but the play store keeps auto updating me to version 6.
Is there any way I can keep this from happening so I can stick with one of the 5.0 versions of the market? I searched around the net and saw a few suggestions, but most of those were a few years old and must not work on lollipop. Is there an updated way to do it? And yes I am rooted if that means anything using either Bliss or Tesla ROM.
Thanks....

Same. Totally sucks. Unfortunately I think we're stuck with it being that it can't function without the auto update. I could be wrong and hope I am because the new UI is a pile of crap.

flyinjoe13 said:
I really don't like the new play store design. First off, I can't see everything from left to right because I guess my phone screen isn't wide enough or maybe the custom dpi i'm using is throwing it off. I know I could turn the phone on it's side and that would solve this problem, but I prefer to keep it vertical. Secondly, I hate having to swipe left and right to scroll through the apps available in each category. I guess I just prefer to old school up and down method. I have tried reverting to version 5.10 with the old school design, but the play store keeps auto updating me to version 6.
Is there any way I can keep this from happening so I can stick with one of the 5.0 versions of the market? I searched around the net and saw a few suggestions, but most of those were a few years old and must not work on lollipop. Is there an updated way to do it? And yes I am rooted if that means anything using either Bliss or Tesla ROM.
Thanks....
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i really dont know wich new playstore you talk about as i use the team black out paysstore and i think it never updates cause if they do ill change the black color..

raptorddd said:
i really dont know wich new playstore you talk about as i use the team black out paysstore and i think it never updates cause if they do ill change the black color..
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I don't know what team black out is. If it's a theme then the theme would carry over to a new play store update. All of my themes carry over. It could be a hacked version of the play store you are using which might explain why it doesn't auto update.
EDIT: I found a thread here on XDA that talked about modding the playstore apk by signing it with a different key and that would prevent google from updating it. Problem is, 'm not sure what that means. I'm comfortable with making changes to system apps because I used to do that all the time in the past to theme apps before the theme engines came along, but I have never signed an app with a different key so I don't know what that means. Going to have to do some searches to see if I can figure out how to do it.

flyinjoe13 said:
I don't know what team black out is. If it's a theme then the theme would carry over to a new play store update. All of my themes carry over. It could be a hacked version of the play store you are using which might explain why it doesn't auto update.
EDIT: I found a thread here on XDA that talked about modding the playstore apk by signing it with a different key and that would prevent google from updating it. Problem is, 'm not sure what that means. I'm comfortable with making changes to system apps because I used to do that all the time in the past to theme apps before the theme engines came along, but I have never signed an app with a different key so I don't know what that means. Going to have to do some searches to see if I can figure out how to do it.
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Try it, download the updater search for your android version and its flashable. i did it over the existin playstore but mine didnt update i did it before update i just reflashed my rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2283828

[Project Fi] Did you get your Fi $10 Play credit yet for the Holidays?

Fi subscribers only.
Just gotta click around through the Holiday setup on Project Fi and one of the "surprises" is a $10 Play Store credit:
https://fiholiday.withgoogle.com/
I recommend buying the 7.1.1 capable Swift Dark or Black Substratum themes:
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=7.1.1 swift substratum&c=apps
Or Titanium Backup Pro if you don't already have it.
Or Root Explorer. Another app that EVERYONE should have.

Btw, I'm open to suggestions on what to spend my $10 credit on.
I already have most of the important apps.
I always buy the "Pro" version of any app I like.
Such as Nova.
There aren't any other themes that are fully 7.1.1 capable (that I know of).
I have most of what I need.
Oh yeah,,, there are a bunch of Daydream apps I don't know anything about.
Mebbe I'll get some fancy Daydream app.
Here's a Reddit list:
https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixe...ydream_view_what_are/?st=iwky2to1&sh=9716c732

Anyone else having issues with the sign in button? I get the page but the button is dead.

This site has done some daydream app/game reviews:
http://www.daydreamdistrict.com/all-apps-and-games-available/
I'm leaning towards Hunters Gate or The Arcslinger right now.
bryantheawesome said:
Anyone else having issues with the sign in button? I get the page but the button is dead.
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I just tested it with a Chrome Icognito tab and it works fine.
Try using a different browser or maybe wipe your browser cache.

That's weird. I can't click from my chromebook, my PC, or my Pixel XL. The sign up button below it works and just throws me to the main page already signed in. WTF.

Uninstalling Google Chrome

I wasnt entirely sure of where exactly i should put this, the dev board would probably be a better choice, but i digress.
Uninstalling the Chrome app through Titanium Backup(and im sure through any other method) causes some apps such as kik messenger and snapchat to be ENTIRELY unusable. They will instantly crash upon opening conversations. I am unsure as to why this happens but i figured it would be useful information for someone else eventually.
EDIT: Doing this also causes battery to go from 100% to 0 in about four hours

Can I ask why uninstall chrome then? Just don't use it or hide it from your app drawer. A lot easier than trying to figure out the issues caused by removing it. It would be the same thing

aholeinthewor1d said:
Can I ask why uninstall chrome then? Just don't use it or hide it from your app drawer. A lot easier than trying to figure out the issues caused by removing it. It would be the same thing
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Well i just didnt want it on my system and i didnt know about the issue beforehand and ive never seen that happen before. Figuring it out actually happened because i thought it was caused by something else after i flashed stock and fixed it.

You need to enable Android/Google WebView (I can't remember the name) in the app settings/play store and go into the developer settings and set the WebView to the new one you enabled. I sadly learned this the hard way like you.

mrjiggywiggy said:
You need to enable Android/Google WebView (I can't remember the name) in the app settings/play store and go into the developer settings and set the WebView to the new one you enabled. I sadly learned this the hard way like you.
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One of my friends talked about how most apps use chrome for webview n i was wondering if there was a way to replace it thanks

Found it on google play but the app is still disabled in settings and the enable button is greyed out?

KittyRgnarok said:
Found it on google play but the app is still disabled in settings and the enable button is greyed out?
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That's weird. Is it greyed out in the play store too or just in settings? If it is try going into Titanium Backup and unfreeze(?) it there. If that doesn't work uninstall it like you did with chrome and download it from the play store.

mrjiggywiggy said:
That's weird. Is it greyed out in the play store too or just in settings? If it is try going into Titanium Backup and unfreeze(?) it there. If that doesn't work uninstall it like you did with chrome and download it from the play store.
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Huh it was low level frozen on the system, defrost through titanium backup doesn't seem to do anything which now raises the question: how and why is that done?
Gonna try uninstalling it and installing through play again.

mrjiggywiggy said:
That's weird. Is it greyed out in the play store too or just in settings? If it is try going into Titanium Backup and unfreeze(?) it there. If that doesn't work uninstall it like you did with chrome and download it from the play store.
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Play store said Enable(the button was seemingly unresponsive until i clicked it abt 15 times in a row) clicking it causes a 44mb download then it says install which causes a 44mb download and changes it back to a completely unresponsive enable. switching over to settings now only shows a greyed out uninstall and force stop

You're free to do what you want of course, but ripping one of the central tie points out a Google phone is not what I wold call a good idea. Easy to run a different browser if that's your preference without destroying the integrity of the base software.

DigitalMD said:
You're free to do what you want of course, but ripping one of the central tie points out a Google phone is not what I wold call a good idea. Easy to run a different browser if that's your preference without destroying the integrity of the base software.
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Before finding this problem it was unknown to me and im sure several others that chrome was an integral part of the rom.The point of this thread was really to find out what this is and if there is a way around it. its for experimentation purposes as it is honestly incredibly easy to fix, ive done it 4 times.

Not sure why you're having trouble. I uninstalled Chrome with Titanium Backup and after rebooting AOSP WebView was unfrozen and active automatically.

fritzgerald said:
Not sure why you're having trouble. I uninstalled Chrome with Titanium Backup and after rebooting AOSP WebView was unfrozen and active automatically.
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Huh weird guess mine just ****ed up

I just go to system/app/chrome and delete the apk, been doing that since the first day I had the pixel, not a fan of chrome, I use firefox nightly
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piperx said:
I just go to system/app/chrome and delete the apk, been doing that since the first day I had the pixel, not a fan of chrome, I use firefox nightly
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Would that work? I might try it later. I just recently found tugabrowser and i love it so thats what im usin

KittyRgnarok said:
Would that work? I might try it later. I just recently found tugabrowser and i love it so thats what im usin
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Never had a problem with stock or custom roms
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dylancooper300 said:
You can try to follow such steps:
Open Task Manager. Find Google Chrome in it.
Click on Chrome and look through the pull-down menu. Verify that all the processes are chosen.
Right-click on Google Chrome and choose the option “End Task”.
Check the “Processes tab" and make sure that there are no leftover processes. If there are any, you need to stop them by right-clicking on them and choosing the option “End task”.
Close Task Manager.
Open a “Run window”. To do this, you need to press “Windows Key+R”.
You need to type here “appwiz.cpl” and press Enter. You’ll open “Program and Features”.
Here, you need to scroll down the list and choose Google Chrome.
Right-click on it and press “Uninstall”.
Also, you can check this link rocketfiles.comto read more options
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Bro we're talking about a phone here...

Play Store Crashing

Does anyone have an issue regarding that the Play Store keeps crashing after a few seconds, doesn't matter what you're doing. I've tried anything that I know off, like updating,uninstalling updates, play services updating or uninstalling updates, download manager cache clearing and more stuff. I don't want to factory reset my phone.
If anybody has an idea, please help, I'm getting really annoyed now at these terrible experiences with Google apps.

Do you have themed this app? If you have themed with Swift installer and play Store has been updated then you have also update the theme. Otherwise play store will crash.

Deacon-Frost said:
Do you have themed this app? If you have themed with Swift installer and play Store has been updated then you have also update the theme. Otherwise play store will crash.
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No I haven't, but it fixed itself. Funny when you have this problem for 2 weeks but when you post it on a forum its magically fixed.