What kind of screen does Dell Streak uses?
LCD, Amoled, Super Amoled....?
How does it compare to HTC Desire's Amoled display, in terms of brightness and colors in viewing pictures ?
The main reason I am asking this questions, is that I am using HTC desire now to show my clients of my photography portfolio. And every picture seems amazing with it ! I know that Dell streak has an even bigger screen to show. But does it have less picture quality than HTC desire's ?
Please comment whether you were previous owner of HTC desire or samsung galaxy S alike...
Dell Streak has transflective TFT.
Desire may have AMOLED or SLCD. Both should be comparable to transflective TFT. Super AMOLED is probably the best option for viewing pictures but it fails under direct sunlight - while transflective TFT is the best display you can get today if you want to see things under sunlight.
failing under direct sunlight does not concern me as much as picture quality. However, by saying "Both should be comparable to transflective TFT", does it means transflective TFT's picture quality/contrast is as good as amoled or slcd ? or maybe just very slightly differs with them?
I can only pass on personal opinion as I don't know the technical differences.
The streak is clear and bright. I run it on its lowest setting and its excellent. in sunlight you can up the output to see the screen clearly on the brightest of days.
The detail and contrast is good but there is a querk where the contrasts are better when you view the screen off angle. Not sure why.
I believe the super amoled is the best but the streak is not disappointing.
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have you compared both devices side by side?
I just bought a streak !!
And, trust me streak vs desire, the screen quality differs by head and foot !!!
I compared both devices head to head.. picture to picture...
contrast and colours... is like comparing contrast and colours of regular television (streak) VS LED tv's (desire).
Desire makes every single photo you look seems extraordinary!!
Guys have a look at these pictures.
I am just posting some more screen comparisons in the following order---
1) Super Amoled Plus vs Super Amoled
2) Super Amoled Plus vs Super Clear LCD
3) Super Amoled Plus vs Retina Display
Have a look at these pictures,screen comparsion to see how much brighter & crisp is super amoled plus
Continuing in the same order
You Guys can find more information Here
all of the above just reinforces why i like SAMOLED/+ more than SLCD and/or Retina displays
in this case Retina has the worse colour and density
Wow... Retina looks really blurred...
martino2k6 said:
Wow... Retina looks really blurred...
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nooo... zoom it, click on it, it looks clear, it's just pale and colours are not vivid
What are they like in direct sunlight though? I know the retina is very good...
AllGamer said:
nooo... zoom it, click on it, it looks clear, it's just pale and colours are not vivid
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I did. I guess you can call me blind then.
Hard to say which is the most color accurate; the iphone/SGS definitely have colder color temperatures, but the SGS2 looks a bit warm (the reds don't look very deep). Also there is major red crushing in the parrot picture.
interestingly you havent posted the parrot picture from the same article. for some reason the super amoled plus has a distinct lack of detail for the feathers on the parrots back. there is no shadowing inbetween the feathers.
vs super amoled
http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_sgs_6b.jpg
vs super lcd
http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_inc_6b.jpg
vs retina
http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_iphone_6b.jpg
any reason for the difference between all the other photos and this specific one? maybe it doesnt deal with red as well?
is not just red observe the blue and yellow, it's dull on the retina
as for the SAMOLED it's the vivid colours that over take the edges (shadow)
is just like when you set a TV to very bright colours settings
AllGamer said:
is not just red observe the blue and yellow, it's dull on the retina
as for the SAMOLED it's the vivid colours that over take the edges (shadow)
is just like when you set a TV to very bright colours settings
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Granted the iPhone's colors are off due to about only 65% of Gamut, you won't really notice it given the excellent contrast. So it's not that things aren't sharp because sharpness comes with high contrast.
AMOLED completely oversaturates.
Anyone do photography? Take your photo and take Saturation and do a +40 on it in Adobe Lightroom. That's AMOLED. Of course photos side by side will show it look nice, and the other one will be washed out, but which is more accurate for looking at photos or videos? Shrug
Its possible to adjust on Samsung Galaxy with CM7(2.3.3)
So i belive it will work on SGS2 in time..
I post this from my Nokia N900 so i hope you can se the picture..
Sorry for my bad english
The SGS 2 is just wayyyyy over contrasted and oversaturated, they need to tone it down otherwise you lose a lot of detail like what you see in the parrot picture.
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The SGS 2 is just wayyyyy over contrasted and oversaturated, they need to tone it down otherwise you lose a lot of detail like what you see in the parrot picture.
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You guys are having some trouble understanding whats going on, so im gonna attempt to explain it.
The reason you see the parrot picture "oversaturated" and shadows not showing in properly is becaus oled technology surpasses easelly the native 1250:1 contrast ratio of a lcd display so youre trying to see the over lcd quality on an lcd, which frankly does little sense as your lcd screen will bottleneck the real quality of oled, furthermore the camera quality can also be questioned aswell regarding this matter.
It sounds stupid for ppl who dont know much about image displays, but for those who do know the diff between oled and lcd it makes a decent ammount of sense.
The "Overbrightness and oversaturation" you see there are simply the oled subpixels doing their job, lightning up, the camera & the lcd screen cannot display it as properly as a backlighted washed out lcd.
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You guys are having some trouble understanding whats going on, so im gonna attempt to explain it.
The reason you see the parrot picture "oversaturated" and shadows not showing in properly is becaus oled technology surpasses easelly the native 1250:1 contrast ratio of a lcd display so youre trying to see the over lcd quality on an lcd, which frankly does little sense as your lcd screen will bottleneck the real quality of oled, furthermore the camera quality can also be questioned aswell regarding this matter.
It sounds stupid for ppl who dont know much about image displays, but for those who do know the diff between oled and lcd it makes a decent ammount of sense.
The "Overbrightness and oversaturation" you see there are simply the oled subpixels doing their job, lightning up, the camera & the lcd screen cannot display it as properly as a backlighted washed out lcd.
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You know, just because you make a post with the attitude of knowing what you're talking about doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
It's oversaturated, the end.
Original photo:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...I4/JkMo1hEry40/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+01.jpg
Over-saturated photo:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...JA/vCIwlukAyvg/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+02.jpg
Wow, it looks suprisingly the same as what the SGS 2 display is doing, I wonder why?!
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You know, just because you make a post with the attitude of knowing what you're talking about doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
It's oversaturated, the end.
Original photo:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...I4/JkMo1hEry40/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+01.jpg
Over-saturated photo:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...JA/vCIwlukAyvg/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+02.jpg
Wow, it looks suprisingly the same as what the SGS 2 display is doing, I wonder why?!
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Im not trying to show off or anything, but what you are saying is false, "the end".
This is OLED technology, there is no such thing as "oversaturation" this doesnt use a backlight, the blue, green and red pixels are made of light, LIGHT, they are not complemented by the lcd backlight as a tn or ips panel does... so colors will look alot more realistic with bigger contrast ratio, with pure blacks and whites.
The camera quality is clearly average at best compared to a proper professional HD Cam corder, so it couldnt properly interpret the oled panel as its made purely of light, its like taking a snapshot of the sun, youre gonna miss details around it.
And then theres your screen, i take it ure viewing it in a LCD screen instead of an oled right? u cant compare lcd vs oled viewed on a lcd screen because that will downgrade the quality of oled to an lcd, no brainer here.
I dont understand why youre feeling so down, i bet you live in the marketing world where LCD is awzome and beats everything around... the fact is tough, lcd is by far the worst technology for color reproduction and pixel response time.
So i dont really get what youre trying to say here, see an oled screen in real life then talk ok?
The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
Its like saying psone has better specs than ps3...
Oh and for your comment with the 2 pictures:
It is more than clear that the second image has been manipulated in a graphis software with more saturation, as the colors get pixelated and edges jaggy.
There is a difference between contrast ratio and saturation but from your comment you still cant understand what it rly is...
For once, how can u see oled pure black (pixel turned off) on a screen that to display the picture it has to have the back light always on...
How do u expect a pure red color when you have a white bulb backlight? the same goes for blue and green...
You will never be able to understand oled quality from an average snapshot displayed on a lcd screen, if u cant understand something as basic as that then, please, remember that saying: "It's better to keep quiet and..."
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Im not trying to show off or anything, but what you are saying is false, the end.
This is OLED technology, there is no such thing as "oversaturation" this doesnt use a backlight, the blue, green and red pixels are made of light, LIGHT, they are not complemented by the lcd backlight as a tn or ips panel does... so colors will look alot more realistic with bigger contrast ratio, with pure blacks and whites.
The camera quality is clearly average at best compared to a proper professional HD Cam corder, so it couldnt properly interpret the oled panel as its made purely of light, its like taking a snapshot of the sun, youre gonna miss details around it.
And then theres your screen, i take it ure viewing it in a LCD screen instead of an oled right? u cant compare lcd vs oled viewed on a lcd screen because that will downgrade the quality of oled to an lcd, no brainer here.
I dont understand why youre feeling so down, i bet you live in the marketing world where LCD is awzome and beats everything around... the fact is tough, lcd is by far the worst technology for color reproduction and pixel response time.
So i dont really get what youre trying to say here, see an oled screen in real life then talk ok?
The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
Its like saying psone has better specs than ps3...
Oh and for your comment with the 2 pictures:
It is more than clear that the second image has been manipulated in a graphis software with more saturation, as the colors get pixelated and edges jaggy.
There is a difference between contrast ratio and saturation but from your comment you still cant understand what it rly is...
For once, how can u see oled pure black (pixel turned off) on a screen that to display the picture it has to have the back light always on...
How do u expect a pure red color when you have a white bulb backlight? the same goes for blue and green...
You will never be able to understand oled quality from an average snapshot displayed on a lcd screen, if u cant understand something as basic as that then, please, remember that saying: "It's better to keep quiet and..."
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+1
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TheWarKeeper said:
Im not trying to show off or anything, but what you are saying is false, "the end".
This is OLED technology, there is no such thing as "oversaturation" this doesnt use a backlight, the blue, green and red pixels are made of light, LIGHT, they are not complemented by the lcd backlight as a tn or ips panel does... so colors will look alot more realistic with bigger contrast ratio, with pure blacks and whites.
The camera quality is clearly average at best compared to a proper professional HD Cam corder, so it couldnt properly interpret the oled panel as its made purely of light, its like taking a snapshot of the sun, youre gonna miss details around it.
And then theres your screen, i take it ure viewing it in a LCD screen instead of an oled right? u cant compare lcd vs oled viewed on a lcd screen because that will downgrade the quality of oled to an lcd, no brainer here.
I dont understand why youre feeling so down, i bet you live in the marketing world where LCD is awzome and beats everything around... the fact is tough, lcd is by far the worst technology for color reproduction and pixel response time.
So i dont really get what youre trying to say here, see an oled screen in real life then talk ok?
The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
Its like saying psone has better specs than ps3...
Oh and for your comment with the 2 pictures:
It is more than clear that the second image has been manipulated in a graphis software with more saturation, as the colors get pixelated and edges jaggy.
There is a difference between contrast ratio and saturation but from your comment you still cant understand what it rly is...
For once, how can u see oled pure black (pixel turned off) on a screen that to display the picture it has to have the back light always on...
How do u expect a pure red color when you have a white bulb backlight? the same goes for blue and green...
You will never be able to understand oled quality from an average snapshot displayed on a lcd screen, if u cant understand something as basic as that then, please, remember that saying: "It's better to keep quiet and..."
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Wow,thats some great knowledge man
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I agree with what you're saying, just wanted to point out that the SAMOLED+ screen will have a normal RGB stripe so it's 3 subpixels for each pixel, rather than 2 subpixels in the current SAMOLED pentile (RGBG - RG being 1 pixel, BG being the next, so 4 subpixels for 2 full pixels). So yes, I happily welcome the fact that it'll be RGB per full pixel like most traditional displays.
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The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
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is it good? I'm only used to OLED.
The IPS display on the Nexus 7 looks good from what I've seen. IPS is known for decent viewing angles.
it depends on the OLED screen you're comparing it to.
the galaxy s2 has super amoled plus, which has a full rgb subpixel matrix, but only a resolution of 800x480. the full rgb subpixel matrix makes everything look clearer and sharper.
the galaxy nexus, galaxy note, and galaxy s3 use a pentile subpixel matrix. its something like rgbg, which makes the display look greenish. its not as sharp as a full rgb matrix, and the colours arent as vivid due to the lack of subpixels (ends up being around 66% less subpixels).
however, the main advantage of the oled displays is that their pixels can be turned off. this means that in movies and games, you have a 'true' black, whereas in led backlit LCD displays (unless it has full led backlight with local dimming) blacks will always seem greyish. oled displays also tend to oversaturate the colours. the other advantage is that since black means the led/pixel is turned off, it means that using a black wallpaper on oled displays will reduce power consumption and improve battery life.
the nexus 7 uses an IPS panel. the general idea is that all the pixels are aligned/parallel, which leads to the image looking sharper compared to TFT and TN panels. the nexus 7 also has a full RGB subpixel matrix which makes it much sharper, and in combination with the IPS setup, it leads to more accurate colour representation. however, as it is not an oled display and it does not have local dimming with a full led backlight (having such a setup would make the device much thicker), it is unable to render 'true' black and as a result, blacks end up looking a bit grey.
cant really say much about which one is better as it is a personal preference thing. some like the oversaturated colours of OLED as it seems more vivid, whereas others prefer the accuracy of IPS panels and sharpness.
at the moment, i own a galaxy note with a pentile amoled display, and i use a 37inch Panasonic TV for my PC display, which uses an IPS panel. i'd say both are pretty good in their own way, but i prefer the IPS panel simply because of the full set of subpixels and colour accuracy.
Waiting to see how hard I rage about the non-black backgrounds.
anandtech measured nexus 7 black at 0.37 nits, whatever that means.
as souai said, it really depends.
generally OLEDs have much better colors and look better, IPS is much better in sunlight though because it's brighter and has insanely good viewing angles up to 178 degrees.
I have a first gen asus transformer which uses and IPS screen and though it's not as impressive color/quality wise as the Galaxy S III and even my Galaxy Nexus (sometimes) it's still excellent and i've never been bothered by it.
and given the fact that the N7 has such a high pixel density it should look great, and the reviews have backed this up.
This isn't apples to apples here but comparing the gnex to the one x I say I definitely prefer the IPS display. Now this is the best version possible probably of its type but I'm happy for the n7 to get an IPS screen. Almost all reviews have talked about how nice it is, only complaint being a little warm and a little dim compared to some other IPS displays. I like my oled screen but since good IPS high res screens have come out, they seem to be superior to oled at the moment. Oled uses up lots of battery in anything other than very black biased setups. IPS has that slight gray to the black but most people are used to their computer monitors and TVs having this as well. I think we won't have to sorry as much about color uniformity as much either with IPS.
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nvm
thanks for the replies. it's helpful.
Ist the Display good?
Hot-Proton said:
Ist the Display good?
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Not the best but it's good!
I don't notice any difference between it and the 1440p LCD on my old Moto X Pure Edition. I'm not convinced that anything over 1080p is discernible. Not that I've done a huge comparison.
Some folks really love their AMOLED's, and this isn't AMOLED. But I have no complaints.
I definitely somewhat miss the AMOLED display of my Galaxy S5 as the IPS panel on the RN7 has the typical IPS silver glow on it, which is especially noticable on dark backgrounds at night, but other than that, the colours are pretty nice & real-to-life. The other issue which seems to happen to me is that either the display is lower quality or something, because letters have a bit of ghosting to them when scrolling through content... it's especially visible if you enable Reading Mode & set it to max value. All in all, the display is definitely nice considering that this is a cheap-ish phone & I can't complain THAT much about it