Pixel 2 kernel reviews, discussions, comparisons - Google Pixel 2 Guides, News, & Discussion

Since I've seen a lot of people (somewhat unfairly) discussing one kernel in another kernel developer's threads, I thought I'd look around for a good healthy discussion of the kernels we currently have available for the Pixel 2. Not finding one, at least not recently, I figured I'd make one.
Please feel free to chime in with your experiences with the kernels, and any kernels we may have missed, as well as any fixes or tricks you've found to improve on them!
Before I get into my own anecdotal results, here's my setup for all of the following:
- Pixel 2 (duh)
- Stock ROM (haven't done anything with alternate ROMs on this phone, as most seem to be unofficial/beta yet and I use this as daily driver)
- January Pie update as of the time of this posting
- Magisk 18.0 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/official-magisk-v7-universal-systemless-t3473445)
- Latest TWRP (https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/development/twrp-alpha-pixel-2-t3698147)
- Basic Google apps (Chrome, Drive, Gmail, Maps, Photos, Play Music), plus Slack and Skype (work requires these), and Pandora (my sanity requires this).
- For streaming, I'm always on bluetooth and listening to Pandora. For non-streaming, I'm playing via bluetooth from local files in Play Music.
- Bluetooth is connected about 10hrs a day. Wifi is connected about 14hrs a day. Assume they're both on and likely connected during all tests.
- I use BlackenedMod for some tests and will note if I do.
- Always on display is turned on, as is OK Google.
Kernels I've tried with results:
[Flash] - https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/development/taimen-flash-kernel-1-00-t3702057
- This was my go-to. Sadly, it's discontinued. Stock experience with no frills. Rock solid. Never crashed.
- Idle, I was seeing about 2-3% drain per hour. Non-streaming music, about 10-12%. Streaming, about 15-18%.
- BlackenedMod reduced idle to about 1-2%. Non-stream to about 9%. Streaming to about 15%.
[ElementalX] - https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/development/kernel-pixel-2-elementalx-1-00-t3719081
- Went to this kernel after Flash was discontinued. Also rock solid. Has a lot more options than stock and is updated very quickly after each monthly patch.
- Idle, about 2-3% per hour. Non-streaming, about 10-12%. Streaming, about 14-16%.
- BlackenedMod reduced idle to about 1.5%. Non-stream to about 10%. Streaming to about 15%.
- Have run into bugs where this kernel got bad wakelocks with a few apps, usually right after a monthly patch. This is usually resolved either by a Magisk or EXKM update.
[Sultan] - https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/development/kernel-sultan-kernel-t3802158
- This is the recommended replacement for Flash. Updates are intermittent, but high quality when they do come out.
- Idle, about 1% or less per hour. Non-streaming, about 8%. Streaming, about 12-16%.
- BlackenedMod barely reduced idle to consistently 1% or less. Non-stream to about 5-6%. Streaming to about 10-13%.
- Sultan doesn't do wakelock blocking, but may not need it. Also, ran into some weird bugs with Google Assistant requiring me to cancel a request and redo it. Some Assistant requests just hang (screen shows, "Calling XYZ" but it never does anything). "OK Google" not working consistently. Sound feels a bit more flat in this kernel than the others, but I could be entirely imagining it.
[Kiri] - https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/development/21-11-2017-kiriskura-kernel-1-0-1-t3708383
- This one's been my most frequent daily driver. Early on, I'd had reboot issues, but this appears to have been resolved over the last few updates.
- Idle, about 1% per hour. Non-streaming, about 8%. Streaming, about 13-15%.
- BlackenedMod reduced idle to <1%. Non-stream to about 6-7%. Streaming to about 12-14%.
- No bugs I've found so far. YMMV
ADDED 31-1-2019
[Evira] - https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2-xl/development/02-01-2018-evirakernel-t3885475
- Installed this right after posting after some recommendations. Feels very similar to Kiri, but with a bunch more governors.
- Idle, about 1% per hour. Non-streaming music, about 6%. Streaming, about 15-16%.
- BlackenedMod reduced idle to <1%. Non-stream to about 5-6%. Streaming to about 12-14%.
- Having intermittent issues with Skype messages not delivering, or if they do, there's no notification. Excluded Skype from battery optimization, but no change. Also, occasionally have Pandora force-close even with the screen on and phone plugged in, which is really weird.
- New bug: Battery drain is usually amazingly good at idle. 0.5%/hr is not uncommon. However, I'm seeing occasional issues where I'll have the phone idle and drain 0.5% for a couple hours, then abruptly, 10% gets drained for no reason, and then back to 0.5%/hr. Haven't been able to figure out why this happens yet.
ADDED 2/4/19
[Caesium] - https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/development/taimen-walleye-caesium-kernel-v0-2-t3878737
- A few people recommended this one once it hit v1.0. Tested on 1.0 and now 1.1.
- True idle, about 1% per hour. Non-streaming music, about 7%. Streaming, about 12-13%. Those are the best overall numbers from any kernel I've gotten so far. More importantly, they're stable and don't wildly bounce around.
- BlackenedMod reduced true idle to <1% (around 0.5%!). Non-stream to about 6%. Streaming to about 12%.
- So far, this one's had lower drain on Bluetooth than the others, especially with idle connection. Very little random drain. Whereas Evira had spikes of drain (1%/hr overnight most of the time, then 10-15% in one hour), this has been steady. Only issue I've found is it's a bit warm with this kernel, though that doesn't seem to be causing any drain, which is rather odd. This may still be part of it settling in.
- Well, so much for the above. After doing the Feb update, now I'm burning 6%/hr at true idle, and 14%/hr with non-streaming music. Phone is HOT. Reloaded clean with Feb image and got the same results. Ouch.
Added 2/19/19
[Elixir] - Possibly DOA project!
- This one came very strongly recommended by a lot of people. Stock experience, they say. Lower battery usage, they say. YMMV. Tested 3.6 Clang version.
- True idle, I'm getting 6% per hour...yes, 6. Non-streaming music is 25%. Streaming, also 25%. These are the worst numbers I've gotten on any kernel, including stock. I've got to believe there's something messed up here, but the numbers are consistent even on a fresh install.
- BlackenedMod did not reduce drain at all on this kernel.
- Ouch. So much drain. My phone's hot enough to keep my hands warm in the freezing temps around here. I have asked in the Elixir forum thread to see if maybe they know why mine's draining so badly. Will update if something changes.
- Also worth noting, there's been NO replies on their forum thread (which is why I didn't bother linking it). I'd call this unsupported and possibly dead. Recommend not using!
One thing to note, no matter what kernel, update, script, etc, I see huge bluetooth drain when anything is playing. Idle with BT connected is fine, but I start music and it drains fast. This didn't used to occur, but one of the Google monthly updates seems to have caused this. I know a lot of folks are looking for answers to that issue, so please don't blame your kernel dev for that particular issue.
Anyone got results they want to share and anything cool they've found?

This is really interesting. I've a similar set up to you but have never tried the Kiri kernel. I'll give it a go once I've installed the February pie update.

Flash Kernel
Flash Kernel now is continued by Caesium Kernel
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/development/taimen-walleye-caesium-kernel-v0-2-t3878737
and Evira Kernel is for Pixel 2 XL not Pixel 2

People11 said:
Flash Kernel now is continued by Caesium Kernel
https://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-2/development/taimen-walleye-caesium-kernel-v0-2-t3878737
and Evira Kernel is for Pixel 2 XL not Pixel 2
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Evira works on both (checked a while back before testing anything). Both XL and non-XL use unified kernels.
Caesium is another offshoot of Flash, yes. Officially though (see the Flash thread) Sultan was the successor.

So I just started testing the Caesium kernel based on your report. Not seeing anything in terms of aggressive drain. My setup is similar to yours without AOD always on. Will update you after I give it a few days. It maybe getting hot because of the ART process running after boot, it tends to happen in the background after a fresh install or a patch update.

flunk03 said:
So I just started testing the Caesium kernel based on your report. Not seeing anything in terms of aggressive drain. My setup is similar to yours without AOD always on. Will update you after I give it a few days. It maybe getting hot because of the ART process running after boot, it tends to happen in the background after a fresh install or a patch update.
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You're probably right. My drain has begun drifting lower, but hadn't stabilized yet, so I didn't want to update the post until I was sure. Curious what you end up finding!

Lagarde said:
You're probably right. My drain has begun drifting lower, but hadn't stabilized yet, so I didn't want to update the post until I was sure. Curious what you end up finding!
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My setup is as follows Stock ROM + kernel, no root. I got interested in our streaming drain numbers for the previous Caesium setup since I stream a lot of music via bluetooth so decided to test it. Prior to this what worked best for me in terms of day to day use was Elemental, Caesium used to drain more battery for me. Will give you a clear update by Saturday.

flunk03 said:
My setup is as follows Stock ROM + kernel, no root. I got interested in our streaming drain numbers for the previous Caesium setup since I stream a lot of music via bluetooth so decided to test it. Prior to this what worked best for me in terms of day to day use was Elemental, Caesium used to drain more battery for me. Will give you a clear update by Saturday.
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Forgot to add that I have a smartwatch paired as well. So on LTE with my device paired to the smartwatch/headphones idle drain is around 2% per hour. With bluetooth disabled and on WIFI idle drain is around 1%. Didn't get the time to accurately gauge drain while streaming on LTE over bluetooth since I tend to text around that time, so it will take few more days to get a baseline for this kernel on that front.

Minor update:
Using the latest Kiri kernel (5.0.7) with latest BlackenedMOD (v9.6) has gotten different results from before.
- "True" idle (sitting on desk not being touched) with BT connected: 0.5%/hr
- Playing locally-stored music over BT: 5-6%/hr
- Playing streamed music over BT: 11%/hr
Still not perfect, but a pretty hefty improvement over previous tests.

Lagarde said:
Evira works on both (checked a while back before testing anything). Both XL and non-XL use unified kernels.
Caesium is another offshoot of Flash, yes. Officially though (see the Flash thread) Sultan was the successor.
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so Evira is for xl but it can install in Pixel 2?

New kernel is up and getting good reviews! Will be testing over the next few days.
Elixir Kernel
(link removed because of how bad the experience was and total lack of support)

Elixir kernel review up. Not a good review, I'm afraid. Searching for any others to try.

Lagarde said:
New kernel is up and getting good reviews! Will be testing over the next few days.
Elixir Kernel
(link removed because of how bad the experience was and total lack of support)
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yes,i have tried Elixir,it performed so bad on my Pixel 2

Lagarde said:
Elixir kernel review up. Not a good review, I'm afraid. Searching for any others to try.
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What do u use daily now ?

jaggillararla said:
What do u use daily now ?
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I've moved over to a Pixel 3, but both my old Pixel 2 and my Pixel 3 are running Kiri. Seems to be the best supported and maintained, plus really good battery life.

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Official Froyo battery life thread

Wanted to start this so we can get a better idea of what kind of battery life we will be seeing with 2.2! Please post your opinions so far and if you are rooted/stock and using stock kernel or the .34 kernel cyan posted. Hopefully we won't see much of a decrease do to JIT or any other new features
Probably won't be that great the first couple of days...testing out Flash and everything...(watching Hulu right now).
SiNJiN76 said:
Probably won't be that great the first couple of days...testing out Flash and everything...(watching Hulu right now).
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hulu doesnt work for me. i get unsupported device.
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hulu doesnt work for me. i get unsupported device.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=686765
i was on CM5.0.7t2, and as we all know, CM is known for draining more battery than the stock rom/enoms but so far im seeing same usage as CM which is ok but not great. next few days will be testing for all of us. hopefully we will have similiar usages not like before where some people are getting 40 hours and some 10 lol
I dont if theres an improvement but I updated on a full battery. After I had 97% then killed the battery in like 5hours while at the Engadget Show lol
is anyone running setcpu with FroYo? im already gettin horribad battery life...probably due to Hulu
I may have done something wrong, but I'm on a rooted phone with kernel 2.6.32.9-27220-g328f560 and my phone went from 80% to 10% in about 4 hours just sitting in my pocket. The most I did was check some emails and some basic SMS.
Will monitor closer tomorrow by my battery usage shows something like 19% email. I wonder if my outlook push is doing something constantly that is hurting it.
Edit: it's also charging REALLY slowly. I have it connected to a USB port and its taken ~ 30 minutes to go from 14-16%.
So far, mine is looking pretty good. Early days yet though.
Its better with froyo.
Had to charge every evening with CM 5.0.6 and pershoots kernel, now i get almost a half day more (with more "playing around").
I use setcpu (245/499 at sleep).
My battery is showing 99% after 3 hours switched on and with light usage. If true, that is amazing! More likely something is not quite right. I am using the .34 UV kernel from persionsown he posted on twitter....
The Jones.. gotta try that Kernel..
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The Jones.. gotta try that Kernel..
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If I believed that it were a true reflection of battery use and not a mis-report of some sort, I would be shouting about it a lot louder!!
i streamed about 1.5 hours of video via qik (uploading not DLing). Still have 60% battery left. I say that's an improvement. Rooted modaco froyo
I'm seeing what I think is significantly worse battery life since I installed Froyo. It's hard to say, though, because I've been playing around in ways that are different from my normal usage pattern (checking the market frequently for updated apps, for example). I was on stock 2.1update1 and now am on stock Froyo.
Battery life is definitely better than Cyano/Modaco/Enomther but it is also worse than stock ERE27. Can definitely make it through a day still though on moderate/slightly heavy use with Froyo something I can't do with Cyan/Modaco/Enom...and this is way faster and more fun than any rom i've had previously so no complaints from me.
Well I was running cyan 5.0.7 and it lasted me longer than this I have now, which is Paul's Froyo.. but since my wi-fi finally stays on I wont revert.
Question: can I still install older custom kernels on froyo???. Want to try...
My battery died sometime last night, and I had gone to bed with it 70% charged. Prior to Froyo, I was on CM 5.0.6 and usually using intersectraven's 925mv kernels, and I would lose about 1.2% per hour while idling.
I'm not blaming Froyo yet, since it could have been an app screwing around. However, the battery usage page didn't show anything out of the ordinary. It will take some more testing before I ditch Froyo until an update is released.
BTW, battery usage while actually using the phone seems to be about the same.
my battery life was phenomenal today. i can't give percentage, because i haven't put on a battery widget (or many widgets at all, tbh), but stock froyo treated me well. was above 80% (guessing by icon) when i left work after 8 hours, some hulu, some wifi, some texting, some phone calls. not exactly heavy usage, but not just idle either.
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my battery life was phenomenal today. i can't give percentage, because i haven't put on a battery widget (or many widgets at all, tbh), but stock froyo treated me well. was above 80% (guessing by icon) when i left work after 8 hours, some hulu, some wifi, some texting, some phone calls. not exactly heavy usage, but not just idle either.
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Check out Battery Indicator http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/com.darshancomputing.BatteryIndicator/
Great and extremely simple app. I've been using it for months. (And it doesn't drain battery either.)

Yet another battery issues thread

Yeah I know there are a lot of other battery threads out there, but just wondering if I can get some help from all you gurus.
Currently running MYN Warm 2.2 RLS3 with HTC kernel 2.6.32.15.
Have read a lot about this and done a lot of the usual optimizations (calibrate battery, turn off auto sync, 4G, etc...last test I did I was able to get about 25 hours on a charge with very little usage, which is pretty decent. So the phone seems to be sleeping the way it's supposed to.
The issue I have is that when I actually start using the phone the battery drains like crazy (about 1% every two minutes). This is with regular usage (i.e. internet browsing). If I use certain battery hog features such as Navigation or Bluetooh then it drains everything in a matter of an hour or so. Have tried playing around with SetCPU and don't really see any improvements (BTW I only get three options on SetCPU).
So the question is whether the battery drainage is a function of the Kernel I'm using? Why would it be good when it's sleeping, but as soon as I use something consumption goes through the roof. Is there anything out there that would allow you to see actual battery usage by app or service? I know Spare Parts gives you SOME info, but it's not granular enough (i.e. It says Android System includes many different pieces).
I doubt there's any magical kernel that can do more than what you are getting now.
Best you can do is to make sure the phone sleeps when the screen is off, which seems like you have already.
Max display on usage I usually get out of a charge is between 2-3 hours at about 30% brightness settings, out of about 12-15 hour per charge.
I sync google, always data on.
yo i have myn's rom as well but different kernel.. try the ones that myn added in the myn update app that came with the rom
Hmmm...so I guess 2-3 hours of actual usage is the best I can hope for then? I hear people saying how they get a lot of hours and that includes having Bluetooth on, browsing the web, Pandora, gaming, etc...If I did that with mine I don't think I would get more than 45 minutes.
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Hmmm...so I guess 2-3 hours of actual usage is the best I can hope for then? I hear people saying how they get a lot of hours and that includes having Bluetooth on, browsing the web, Pandora, gaming, etc...If I did that with mine I don't think I would get more than 45 minutes.
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You probably can extend it by using wifi but what's the fun in that?
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yo i have myn's rom as well but different kernel.. try the ones that myn added in the myn update app that came with the rom
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Hmmm...Where? Are you referring to the Warm Updater app? I don't see anything about other kernels there. I haven't flashed any kernels on my phone. This is the one it came with.
What battery life do you get when you're actually using the phone?
Achllles: I get quite a bit of degradation on WI-FI as well.
I'm just trying to understand if there's a way to see what exactly is eating my battery when I use the phone. I mean I could be just sitting on the screen not doing anything and if it's on it consumes quite a bit, but as soon as I turn off the screen everything goes to sleep and consumption drops to about 1% per hour. just trying to understand this huge disparity.
Not sure. Best you can do at this point is to install current widget and see how much is being consumed, and guess what's killing your battery.
One other thing I've noticed was even at same settings, my phone often consumed around 25-30mA while screen is off, but now it hovers around 50-100mA, and I haven't made any change to the phone.
Not sure if it's effect on real life usage, but it does seem like it does.
Maybe its not software related...maybe your battery is just shot already.
I know exactly what your going through OP. This caused me to leave Myns and Cyanogen and go to Fresh ROM.
This seems to have mainly fixed the problem.
Myn was using the stock kernal, but his new rsl4 is gonna be using ziggys elite kernal.. Now is this kernal gonna be faster than other ones? No but myn told me its not about speed. Its speed that makes your battery life go down. These flashy kernals that have high quadrant speeds, suffer battery draining issues. So wait till friday for the new rom, and see how that goes.
suarezn said:
Hmmm...Where? Are you referring to the Warm Updater app? I don't see anything about other kernels there. I haven't flashed any kernels on my phone. This is the one it came with.
What battery life do you get when you're actually using the phone?
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there are 2 kernels there.. just try to look harder, i get 12-15hrs heavy use which is more than enough for me
Was never able to find these other Kernels, but I did install Netarchy Toast. Installed versions 4.19 to try Collin's Battery Tweak, but could never get that tweak to work properly (it always has a process that uses a lot of CPU). Uninstalled that and tried version 4.2 ant that seems to be working OK (without the battery tweak).
So after a lot of testing and re-testing I've come to the conclusion that my crazy battery drain only happens whenever there's a "radio" on. CPU usage is not the main culprit in my case as even overclocking it doesn't drain it much if the radios are turned off. It doesn't matter if it's WIFI, 3G or 4G, if the phone is using any of this it drains very quickly. Thus the reason it acts good whenever is sleeping.
A perfect example of this is that I used Power Amp to play music from my music library (from my SD Card). Used it for like 4 hours and it drained the battery at a very reasonable pace, then I stopped that and started playing music using Pandora. Immediately the battery started to drain at about 1% rate every two minutes or so. I've read somewhere that using WIFI instead of 3G would save battery. Didn't seem to make a difference in my case as it drained at about the same rapid pace. Now if I have both on, then it gets even crazier.
So having found the culprits the question is whether there's anything that can be done to improve this. BTW I think I have the latest PRI (1.77_003), PRL (60671) and baseband (2.15.00.09.01) versions

[Discussion] Ava V10 battery life - Phone Specs

First off, this might be a topic for the general forum, but since is pertains directly to development, i thought i would put it here... Mods.. please move if you feel this is inappropriate.
There seems to be some HUGE differences with Ava v10 and battery life and i wanted to try and narrow down what the differences are to see what is up!
What i am curious about and would like you to post is the following:
Hardware Version
Screen
Kernel you are using
battery life / Usage
If we are seeing a pattern here then we should be able to determine the problem and hopefully yield some good data for devs to use. If it is still very random.. then its got to be an app that is causing the issues.
I will start
Hardware 003
Epson
Stock Kernel
8 - 9 hours MAX on moderate - use (lots of texting, some calls, and a little web browsing) Was getting WAY better on v9 before 3.30 update (v9a)
It is apparent the 3.30.2/3 has drastically ****ed battery life. There has been way too many posts about it to ignore it now.
It isn't HTC kernel 17 related like someone said earlier either. It goes deeper than that because I never run HTC kernels, not even for 5 minutes after installing a rom and I notice it very much. It appears that the current during idle isn't affected. And it isn't a rogue program PR anything keeping the CPU from idling. I dunno what it is. But it really is very noticeable.
I wish more dev's would realize it and make updated 3.29s with some of the new stuff built-in like the pnotification pulldown switch thing, and stuff like that.
Thanks azrael so far for not ignoring the situation. Lol. I'm sure HTC will put out a version 3.40.00 or whatever that has ackrite for all hardware versions. And then it will be easier on the devs
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It is apparent the 3.30.2/3 has drastically ****ed battery life. There has been way too many posts about it to ignore it now.
It isn't HTC kernel 17 related like someone said earlier either. It goes deeper than that because I never run HTC kernels, not even for 5 minutes after installing a rom and I notice it very much. It appears that the current during idle isn't affected. And it isn't a rogue program PR anything keeping the CPU from idling. I dunno what it is. But it really is very noticeable.
I wish more dev's would realize it and make updated 3.29s with some of the new stuff built-in like the pnotification pulldown switch thing, and stuff like that.
Thanks azrael so far for not ignoring the situation. Lol. I'm sure HTC will put out a version 3.40.00 or whatever that has ackrite for all hardware versions. And then it will be easier on the devs
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It seems only hardware version 0004 is mostly unaffected by the new frame software and I know the only difference is camera hardware but that may be it
Sent from my EVO at the edge of hell
Hardware: 003
Screen: not sure how to tell I am a newbie
stock kernel that comes with AVA V10
Right now I am home and not on the road working so my useage is lighter but I did go to bed last night with >50% life remaining and the phone had been off charger >15 hours
4-5 calls none were more than 5 min long
a little texting, couple emails (with polling every 30 min from 8-8), FB and Twitter updating at a regular interval (about every 30 min)
Bluetooth on for around 2 hrs, wifi on most of the day as I was at home using my home network so it was connected and not scanning.
Went to mall for about an hour and that has notoriously bad Sprint signal inside most places.
I ran the following:
hardware 002
Novatek screen
kernel: HTC 10, HTC 11, HTC 17, Kings #10 & #11 (both variants), Netarchy 4.1.9.1 & 4.2.1 beta (havs, no havs, bfs, cfs, smartass)
Some web browsing, facebook, texts, maybe 10-20 min of calls per day if that.
I'd get MAX 6-8 hours from fully charged to completely dead.
Went back to MIUI 11.19 and am consistently getting 15+ hours with moderate to heavy use.
If I try and run any ROM with the 3.30 file system, my battery totally sucks no matter which kernel I use.
Evo hardware version: 003
Screen Type: unknown (don't know how to tell)
3.30-ROMs tested: Ava V10, EViO 2
Kernels: various, in text
When I first switched to the first 3.30-based ROM, I noticed a big reduction in battery life. I tried another and ran into the same thing.
After one day on Ava V10, on a recommendation I tried the EViO 2 v1.6, along with the "netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-bfs-bfq-nohavs-smartass-universal (No HAVS)" kernel, and with extremely light usage (1 short call, and few texts) after 19-hours I was showing an 89% charge. With this kernel the phone slept very well. The problem was that with that same kernel, even moderate usage sucked the battery very quickly.
So, based on things that I read I switched to the "netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-bfs-bfq-havs-more-smartass-universal (More Aggressive Undervolting)". Using this combo, sitting on my desk with zero usage for 11-hours it was displaying 89% charge, so sleeping did not appear to be as efficient. However through the day, normal usage (moderate) seemed to provide a bit more time per charge. It did not appear to be a drastic difference.
On another recommendation, I then tried the netarchy-toastmod-4.1.9.1-cfs-NoHAVS-universal kernel. Overnight, no usage, after 9-hours I was again at 89% charge. Normal usage netted slightly worse time than the netarchy-toastmod-4.2.1-bfs-bfq-nohavs-smartass-universal (No HAVS) kernel provided.
Behavioral observation: The 4.2.1 No HAVS kernel produced slightly higher Quadrant scores than the 4.1.9.1 kernel did, but overall in normal operation, the phone was more sluggish and draggy on the 4.2.1 kernel, while being snappier and feeling faster overall using the 4.1.9.1 kernel.
Also, please note that the best battery time I ever got on any 3.30-based ROM pales in comparison to my experience earlier in the year with DC3.5 and an older Toastmod DC-compatible kernel. Once, after almost 21-hours off the charger, light usage throughout the night and at the very end of a 3+ hour phone call, I got the charge warning that I was at 15%. I don't know why I changed.
At this point I made an inquiry through a friend and was told that the difference between the 3.29-build and the 3.30-build was that the 3.30-build has a few small changes made to support hardware changes on version 004 Evo's only. I was also told that 3.30-build ROMs were not going to run well on 001-003 Evo's. I'm sure that is not absolute and they can be made to, but it may take some work.
Sorry for the novella, and I hope that it helps. Thank you for your time.
Hardware Version: 0003
Screen: EPSON
Kernel you are using: STOCK
battery life / Usage: MOD to HEAVY USAGE - OVER 25 HOURS on FIRST FULL CHARGE of battery!
NOTE: I also had AUTOKILLER set to STRICT during this entire time, and not to AGGRESSIVE.
Detailed post with pic showing my over 20 hour mark still in the GREEN:
HERE!!!
I'm now in the process of trying out Net-TM 4.2.1 CFS-HAVS-LESS AGG with V10.
bender1077 said:
Hardware Version: 0003
Screen: EPSON
Kernel you are using: STOCK
battery life / Usage: MOD to HEAVY USAGE - OVER 25 HOURS on FIRST FULL CHARGE of battery!
NOTE: I also had AUTOKILLER set to STRICT during this entire time, and not to AGGRESSIVE.
Detailed post with pic showing my over 20 hour mark still in the GREEN:
HERE!!!
I'm now in the process of trying out Net-TM 4.2.1 CFS-HAVS-LESS AGG with V10.
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what was your "awake" time with this? This will be the tell.
When i ran ava 10 i got like 10 hours max. Alot of the 3.30 roms sucked my battery life. Fresh 3.3 rom gave me best battery life and i upgraded to his 3.4 and my bat sucked. Now im running airbourne rc4 and i think im getting the best battery I've ever had and its 3.30 based. It does have the sense launcher removed but all other sense is still there that could be the problem.
Novatek and 003
I decided to reload v10 and only restore a few essential apps and see where i was at. i did this, and had a full charge late last night.
This was with ALL settings defaulted to what is in v10 and no setcpu. The ONLY thing that i changed was the autokiller settings to "optimum"
It has now been 14.5 hours since i unplugged it (7 was me sleeping)
and "awake time" has only been 2.5 hours
It has been a pretty light day for usage - couple phone calls, mostly texts and emails and i am at 50%
This is MUCH better, but i really have not used my phone like i normally do. And this is with only a few apps installed.
frettfreak said:
what was your "awake" time with this? This will be the tell.
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I think was a little over 5 hours. I'll have to remember to get a pic of that next time
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I think was a little over 5 hours. I'll have to remember to get a pic of that next time
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huh.. thats pretty good! lol... hmm..
a little off topic......how do you tell who made the screen on your EVO?
skydeaner said:
It is apparent the 3.30.2/3 has drastically ****ed battery life. There has been way too many posts about it to ignore it now.
It isn't HTC kernel 17 related like someone said earlier either. It goes deeper than that because I never run HTC kernels, not even for 5 minutes after installing a rom and I notice it very much. It appears that the current during idle isn't affected. And it isn't a rogue program PR anything keeping the CPU from idling. I dunno what it is. But it really is very noticeable.
I wish more dev's would realize it and make updated 3.29s with some of the new stuff built-in like the pnotification pulldown switch thing, and stuff like that.
Thanks azrael so far for not ignoring the situation. Lol. I'm sure HTC will put out a version 3.40.00 or whatever that has ackrite for all hardware versions. And then it will be easier on the devs
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nYdGeo said:
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At this point I made an inquiry through a friend and was told that the difference between the 3.29-build and the 3.30-build was that the 3.30-build has a few small changes made to support hardware changes on version 004 Evo's only. I was also told that 3.30-build ROMs were not going to run well on 001-003 Evo's. I'm sure that is not absolute and they can be made to, but it may take some work.
Sorry for the novella, and I hope that it helps. Thank you for your time.
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So dont remember where I got this from (someone in another topic), but it completely confirms everything that we have been talking about...
NO 3.30 rom is made for hardware 001-003 period.. directly from sprint.
http://community.sprint.com/baw/com.../blog/2010/11/05/htc-evo-maintenance-releases
so the problem now is devs are either going to have to split their roms in to 2 branches (one for pre-004 hardware and one for 004 hardware) OR... sprint need to come out with a unified release. SO... hopefully devs will read this and make changes accordingly

Bad battery life on all phones? A curse?

Hello, so okay I agree the title is a bit too dramatic but I'm veryyy frustrated, so basically I've owned three android smartphones so far:
Samsung galaxy grand prime ve
OnePlus X
OnePlus 5
(a steady increase in specs)
And I have a question: why can I not get reasonable battery performance on any phone? On my oneplus X when I bought it, for the first few months I used to get 2.5 SOT and then months later I started getting barely an hour (45mins). No matter which roms or kernels I flashed, it made no difference. Battery saver on? No difference Greenify on? A small negligible amount saved...
Infuriated by this I finally came to buy a OnePlus 5 which I thought would put an end to this. However here I am, full of my battery saving habits still in me (which I have done so much research on to make sure they don't make it worse, trust me, I could write a battery saving wiki) and with a draining oneplus 5 in my hands. I've tried different roms and different kernels but still the same bad problem : a DRAINING BATTERY... I can get through a day with 3hrs SOT if battery saving mode is turned on but with a normal stock OOS I could never. I don't understand... I've tried BBS and GSam to try and find the source of this and still nothing. So I have resorted to the unofficial RR which comes with Lighting kernel which I have underclocked and use with battery saving mode on (not android's, ex kernel manager's one). So I have finally turned to xda so someone may be able to help me.
Cheers
Ps: I don't believe I am a target of the NSA and I have a special phone that is customized to track me...
I'd be looking at the apps you haveinstalled... Sounds like there's something running in background eating away at your battery life...
Or it's an energy vampire living in your home....
I am getting radically different battery performance with this phone day to day. One day it'll get a solids like 6.5 hours SoT and others I'll get like 4. Various issues it seems. Shouldnt be that hard to get consistent battery life.
Agree with above. Only common denominator here is you / your apps. But, stock+magisk with franco kernel and the app naptime is enough for me to get 5-7h sot out a full battery, but usually it's half full when I go to bed
You've mentioned that you tried many things to resolve this but I'll go ahead and tell you the things I use to make my battery last a little longer (hopefully there is something useful for you)
- Greenify with Magisk Module
- ForceDoze
- Location almost always on battery saving mode
- Force Doze for Google Play Services Magisk Module
- if WiFi is on, data will be off, and if data is on, then WiFi is off
- Bluetooth is always off if nothing is connected to it
- brightness is kept relatively low/halfway at most, the majority of the time
Running unofficial RR with Lightning Kernel v11 (1000hz version)
All this combined gives me roughly 9-9.5 SOT (about 140 apps installed)
If I forgot to mention anything, I'll edit it in here!
I've been very careful with my apps and I can't see what could be causing, I've tried third party Facebook apps instead of the official one for example and there's nothing strange installed.
Im_Mattgame said:
Hello, so okay I agree the title is a bit too dramatic but I'm veryyy frustrated, so basically I've owned three android smartphones so far:
Samsung galaxy grand prime ve
OnePlus X
OnePlus 5
(a steady increase in specs)
And I have a question: why can I not get reasonable battery performance on any phone? On my oneplus X when I bought it, for the first few months I used to get 2.5 SOT and then months later I started getting barely an hour (45mins). No matter which roms or kernels I flashed, it made no difference. Battery saver on? No difference Greenify on? A small negligible amount saved...
Infuriated by this I finally came to buy a OnePlus 5 which I thought would put an end to this. However here I am, full of my battery saving habits still in me (which I have done so much research on to make sure they don't make it worse, trust me, I could write a battery saving wiki) and with a draining oneplus 5 in my hands. I've tried different roms and different kernels but still the same bad problem : a DRAINING BATTERY... I can get through a day with 3hrs SOT if battery saving mode is turned on but with a normal stock OOS I could never. I don't understand... I've tried BBS and GSam to try and find the source of this and still nothing. So I have resorted to the unofficial RR which comes with Lighting kernel which I have underclocked and use with battery saving mode on (not android's, ex kernel manager's one). So I have finally turned to xda so someone may be able to help me.
Cheers
Ps: I don't believe I am a target of the NSA and I have a special phone that is customized to track me...
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Try with basic steps. Factory reset then:
1) Have totally stock OP5 - no "battery saving tricks", no apps. Run a bit. What is SOT? If less then average of 5-6 hours - either you have a "curse"/NSA tracking you or defective hardware.
2) Install your "battery saving trick" one by one testing after now and then. Are there any improvements in SOT? If yes, then write your wiki page, share your findings . If not, write your wiki page and tell us what application is a culprit.
3) Rinse and repeat until no more application left to install or you got bored.
I'm getting incredibly poor battery life after the latest update. I haven't let it fully deplete yet so maybe it just needs recalibrated?
yubimusubi said:
I'm getting incredibly poor battery life after the latest update. I haven't let it fully deplete yet so maybe it just needs recalibrated?
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There`s alot of sstuff activated on your 1+5. Try turning it off and check the SoT afterwards. Also some people were complaining because their Android-System was consuming way too much energy.
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There`s alot of sstuff activated on your 1+5. Try turning it off and check the SoT afterwards. Also some people were complaining because their Android-System was consuming way too much energy.
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Oops, I meant to follow up on this. Android System and Google Play were causing a lot of wakelocks. I cleared cache in the Google Play and Google Services apps sad now I'm back to my typical 6-7 hours SoT.

Anyone uses "L Speed" or LKT or NFS-Injector or anything for better battery life?

Anyone uses "L Speed" or LKT or NFS-Injector or anything for better battery life?
"L Speed" - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/l-speed/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138
LKT - https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...g/module-lkt-legendary-kernel-tweaks-t3896032
NFS-Injector - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nfs-injectorv1-t3857231
These all seem to supposedly do the same things for our phones... tweak them for better battery or better gaming or whatever.
Has anyone had good results from any of these for battery life?
I'm going to start testing them myself, but I want to know what results others have gotten.
Thanks!
From my experience, there have definitely been no negative effects from using these types of tweaks. Almost since day one, I've used the older AKT 1.6 (I think you asked about that one last year) and then switched to LKT (picked balanced profile) earlier this year to test. Since I saw absolutely no difference in battery life between those two based on my light to moderate usage, I just kept LKT. I'm not sure what the exact benefits of these tweaks are vs. stock/no tweaks as I've been using them early on, but so far, there's no harm in having one of them installed as they don't interfere with anything I do on my phone (LS997, stock-based Nougat custom ROM, mk2000 kernel).
In case you're wondering about my typical battery life, I go from full to 10–15% in 1.5 to 2 days, averaging over 6 hours screen-on-time on a rotating pair of 4100 mAh Lithium polymer batteries that I had since last December.
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From my experience, there have definitely been no negative effects from using these types of tweaks. Almost since day one, I've used the older AKT 1.6 (I think you asked about that one last year) and then switched to LKT (picked balanced profile) earlier this year to test. Since I saw absolutely no difference in battery life between those two based on my light to moderate usage, I just kept LKT. I'm not sure what the exact benefits of these tweaks are vs. stock/no tweaks as I've been using them early on, but so far, there's no harm in having one of them installed as they don't interfere with anything I do on my phone (LS997, stock-based Nougat custom ROM, mk2000 kernel).
In case you're wondering about my typical battery life, I go from full to 10–15% in 1.5 to 2 days, averaging over 6 hours screen-on-time on a rotating pair of 4100 mAh Lithium polymer batteries that I had since last December.
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Thank you.
Is there a particular app I can run for 5-10 minutes to "run" the phone a bit to them check Accubattery to see how much it's draining?
I would like something or some ideas so I can test each of these under similar situations and have a good comparison.
baldybill said:
Is there a particular app I can run for 5-10 minutes to "run" the phone a bit to them check Accubattery to see how much it's draining?
I would like something or some ideas so I can test each of these under similar situations and have a good comparison.
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That would be difficult to pull off since app usage varies so much by user, and you probably won't see much happening in such a short period. The most common thing to do is use any battery monitoring app such as GSam Battery Monitor or BetterBatteryStats that shows details of how much battery each app drains and use your phone normally for at least a full day to see if there is any significant drain by any app during the period. You can find brief descriptions of those battery monitoring apps over here.
C D said:
That would be difficult to pull off since app usage varies so much by user, and you probably won't see much happening in such a short period. The most common thing to do is use any battery monitoring app such as GSam Battery Monitor or BetterBatteryStats that shows details of how much battery each app drains and use your phone normally for at least a full day to see if there is any significant drain by any app during the period. You can find brief descriptions of those battery monitoring apps over here.
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Valid point about the short period of time testing.
Here's my perceived dilemma:
Let's say I test the "l speed" for 1 day -- and play games for 1 hour and get 2 hours of phone calls.
Then I test the "LKT" for 1 day -- and play games for 45 minutes and get 1 hour of phone calls.
How can I tell which one is working best for battery life since the phone was used more on the 1 day than the other?
baldybill said:
Valid point about the short period of time testing.
Here's my perceived dilemma:
Let's say I test the "l speed" for 1 day -- and play games for 1 hour and get 2 hours of phone calls.
Then I test the "LKT" for 1 day -- and play games for 45 minutes and get 1 hour of phone calls.
How can I tell which one is working best for battery life since the phone was used more on the 1 day than the other?
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That's where longer testing periods would be more helpful to cover any differences/inconsistencies. Ideally, you'd want to give it at least a week to get a good sense of any battery life benefits/drawbacks vs. no tweak installed.
baldybill said:
"L Speed" - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/l-speed/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138
LKT - https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...g/module-lkt-legendary-kernel-tweaks-t3896032
NFS-Injector - https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nfs-injectorv1-t3857231
These all seem to supposedly do the same things for our phones... tweak them for better battery or better gaming or whatever.
Has anyone had good results from any of these for battery life?
I'm going to start testing them myself, but I want to know what results others have gotten.
Thanks!
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You can choose Extended battery, I am currently using one 10500 mah battery. Battery life is mindblowing. I lasted more than 1 whole day with heaviest usage ( 7 hours Video Playback, Calls, Hotspot for 5 hours, etc) and still got 40% left on the battery. Yea its kinda bulky but you have to sacrifice something.
Here's the link
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/32920820535.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3f3d4c4dZv7RfQ
teji007 said:
You can choose Extended battery, I am currently using one 10500 mah battery. Battery life is mindblowing. I lasted more than 1 whole day with heaviest usage ( 7 hours Video Playback, Calls, Hotspot for 5 hours, etc) and still got 40% left on the battery. Yea its kinda bulky but you have to sacrifice something.
Here's the link
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/32920820535.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.3f3d4c4dZv7RfQ
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That's not a bad idea. For now, though, I'll hold off on adding the bulk to the phone and keep tweaking. But it's something to keep in mind. Thanks!
In my testing, LKT can have thermal and ram issues, FDE can have thermal issues (both with battery above 115 degrees Fahrenheit.) FDE can have root ability issues as for editing files with root exploring app. Injector can have same issues, but not as bad. AKT still holds the crown in my book.
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In my testing, LKT can have thermal and ram issues, FDE can have thermal issues (both with battery above 115 degrees Fahrenheit.) FDE can have root ability issues as for editing files with root exploring app. Injector can have same issues, but not as bad. AKT still holds the crown in my book.
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My main issue with AKT is that it seems outdated. It's no longer updated. Many have said that it won't work right with Oreo (which I'm on). I don't know.
Are you on Oreo?
This is some good information. Thanks!
baldybill said:
My main issue with AKT is that it seems outdated. It's no longer updated. Many have said that it won't work right with Oreo (which I'm on). I don't know.
Are you on Oreo?
This is some good information. Thanks!
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I use AKT on oreo without any issues
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs
baldybill said:
My main issue with AKT is that it seems outdated. It's no longer updated. Many have said that it won't work right with Oreo (which I'm on). I don't know.
Are you on Oreo?
This is some good information. Thanks!
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No, I can't Stock Oreo. Can't root past ZV7. I have a Ls997 (Sprint).
Well If you still want full root ability, then possibly LKT, maybe injector. Lspeed I have no issue with either. Lspeed can be used with AKT, LKT, FDE, Injector, but don't set same settings as others apply or it CAN have bad results. With Lspeed it seems a lil more aggressive as to acting and you can feel a difference with lag/performance/see battery changes with Accu pretty quickly after restarting with after changes.
As for out-dated, AKT may be old, but it sufficiently works. The app is best. Kinda like our phones, maybe kinda out date, but blows most of/if not - any other away with it's abilities. To be honest, most kernel mods might be based if of AKT imo. There is a way to edit post appied AKT profiles for further customised settings that will stick as AKT fully boots after restarting that I found also.
You can edit the post applied AKT selected profile that you want to always work automatically after AKT fully boots (Superuser boot) by going to... Root/storage/0 (or local, whatever your internal storage is)/AKT/AKT. Edit the AKT file in the AKT folder with text editor, save, delete backup file, reboot. Copy and paste a backup somewhere else to use as needed in future. Found this ability after many, countless wonders if able. Yes, yes it is .

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