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I have a US T-Mobile G1, but am in Belgium, and we don't have T network here...
is the update coming to the devices, regardless of the network they're registered on, or do I really need to be in the US, on a T-Mobile network, to get the update?
Anyone from Belgium, or somewhere in Europe that has a G1 that is on another network than it was meant for?
Is there (going to be) any means of pulling the update manually, even on another network?
Thanks for sharing the info...
First, is your phone rooted or not?
Second, what firmware/rom are you running?
You do not need to be on T-mobile to get the update. Your phone checks with a server run by google. If there is an update for it it will get sent to your phone. If your phone is rooted it wont update due to running testkeys instead of releasekeys (unless you are running an ADP firmware).
Once the exact location of the file is known you can manually download it and update your phone if you dont want to wait.
Since you say its a US G1 you should be able to get the 1.5 update which should drop sometime between May 11th and the end of the month. Your location may prevent that from happening, however you can just use the zip file that will get posted on this site somewhere if that happens.
First of all, thanks for the quick response.
The phone is not rooted, it's a normal user phone, no hacks, no custom soft...
Current version is 1.1 RC33 126986 with the release keys intact...
I'll wait until the end of the month and see then...
Just need it to get SipDroid running... (www.sipdroid.org) Wanted to make it a 'cordless phone' for my asterisk server running at home...
Thanks for the info and help!
I'll let you know when I get the update.
Just to let you know, I'm currently abroad with my G1 (UK on T-Mobile), with data roaming turned off.
Connected my G1 to the internet over Wifi and the update was detected and downloaded over Wifi. So looks as though it shouldn't matter what you're connected over.
I have mine secondhand and i have no idea if its rooted or not. but i know i don't have any updates yet. btw im in turkey where no t-mobile service is avaliable.
my device's firware is like that, can you tell its rooted or not? I know im a real newbie. If its rooted how can i take it to original state that can pull the original cupcake
Firmware version 1.0
kernel version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] 6#
built number
kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC30 116143
ota-relkeys,release keys
saluk said:
I have mine secondhand and i have no idea if its rooted or not. but i know i don't have any updates yet. btw im in turkey where no t-mobile service is avaliable.
my device's firware is like that, can you tell its rooted or not? I know im a real newbie. If its rooted how can i take it to original state that can pull the original cupcake
Firmware version 1.0
kernel version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] 6#
built number
kila-user 1.0 TC4-RC30 116143
ota-relkeys,release keys
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I think (thx to xda-develpers ) mine is not rooted right? Then why didn't I got the cupcake or the previous version which is newer than mine :/
Im just curious if i will receive the update OTA or not. I rooted my phone however it states that it is release keys and not test keys. Below is what the About Phone screen looks like
Firmware Version
1.1
kernel Version
2.6.25-01843-gfea26b0
[email protected] #1
Build Number
kila-user 1.1 PLAT-rc33 126986
ota-rel-keys, release-keys
Thanks for the help
To answer the actual question. Will you get the OTA T-Mobile update? No, you will not. T-Mobile is pushing it to their customers. T-Mobile and Google are not the same company and T-Mobile has no responsibility to update the "device" but rather to update their customers.
The reason the UK guy got the update is because he is in the customer database for T-Mobile UK. So as his phone is part of that network (regardless of roaming/not roaming) it came to him.
However, I am sure there will be some smart G1 user who, when getting the update downloaded OTA, will FIRST copy the update off their phone BEFORE installing it. Then uploading a copy of the update so those who still have not received it can download it and install it manually. (That is a hint to any US T-Mobile person on this forum who gets the update)
You should get the OTA updates. I bought a dev phone in december and in January I got the OTA ADP1.1h update. I'm not on T-Mo at all and never have. I am on AT&T and all was well and I would assume you should be too.
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To answer the actual question. Will you get the OTA T-Mobile update? No, you will not. T-Mobile is pushing it to their customers. T-Mobile and Google are not the same company and T-Mobile has no responsibility to update the "device" but rather to update their customers.
The reason the UK guy got the update is because he is in the customer database for T-Mobile UK. So as his phone is part of that network (regardless of roaming/not roaming) it came to him.
However, I am sure there will be some smart G1 user who, when getting the update downloaded OTA, will FIRST copy the update off their phone BEFORE installing it. Then uploading a copy of the update so those who still have not received it can download it and install it manually. (That is a hint to any US T-Mobile person on this forum who gets the update)
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I beg to differ, I might be wrong but everyone was getting the previous updates because they aren't sent from T-Mobile. They are sent from Google. It is just a T-Mobile build so as long as you have internet it will download the update.
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I beg to differ, I might be wrong but everyone was getting the previous updates because they aren't sent from T-Mobile. They are sent from Google. It is just a T-Mobile build so as long as you have internet it will download the update.
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I beg to differ your begging to differ! Google, from what I understand, has its own 1.5 cupcake update which is similar to the T-mobile version in just about every respect. However, while searching for cupcake I read an article that noted there were some differences between the two builds. Perhaps Google was responsible for the G1 update to 1.1, but from the sounds of it, that is not the case now.
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I beg to differ your begging to differ! Google, from what I understand, has its own 1.5 cupcake update which is similar to the T-mobile version in just about every respect. However, while searching for cupcake I read an article that noted there were some differences between the two builds. Perhaps Google was responsible for the G1 update to 1.1, but from the sounds of it, that is not the case now.
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I am not saying that Google created it but rather it is hosted on Google Servers, this can't change because the update script pulls the update from Google servers. Maybe in 1.5 it will change but as of 1.1 it still checks Google for the update.
Basically as long as you can reach the google address it all will update.
You will NOT get an OTA.
You only get an OTA IF:
1) You have a G1 and are a tmobile customer. The update may come from google's servers, but the update is controlled by tmobile, and its user database. It is a tmobile phone.
2) You have an ADP, and have already *MANUALLY* updated to 1.1 firmware. Then, you will get the official google (via HTC) ADP 1.5 update. OTA functionality for ADP was only rolled out in the 1.1 firmware.
Other than that, no, you will NOT get the update, and you will need to root the phone and manually update to either the ADP release, one of the t-mobile releases or any of the 'cooked' roms on here.
Also there seems to be some confusion on the ADP vs. G1 versions. Infact, it is the exact same phone, and the *exact* same software, but the tmobile release has the t-mobile logo and all their spam apps (my favs etc). Otherwise, they are the same thing!
Hope this cleared some stuff up.
I bought the phone second hand and use it on orange and i got the update. im not a tmobile user, but the person i bought the phone off was. but have never personally used it on tmobile and received the 1.5 update fine. hope this helps
menov321 said:
I bought the phone second hand and use it on orange and i got the update. im not a tmobile user, but the person i bought the phone off was. but have never personally used it on tmobile and received the 1.5 update fine. hope this helps
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You probably got the google generic 1.5 update and not the t-mobile specific update.
bakgwailo said:
You will NOT get an OTA.
You only get an OTA IF:
1) You have a G1 and are a tmobile customer. The update may come from google's servers, but the update is controlled by tmobile, and its user database. It is a tmobile phone.
2) You have an ADP, and have already *MANUALLY* updated to 1.1 firmware. Then, you will get the official google (via HTC) ADP 1.5 update. OTA functionality for ADP was only rolled out in the 1.1 firmware.
Other than that, no, you will NOT get the update, and you will need to root the phone and manually update to either the ADP release, one of the t-mobile releases or any of the 'cooked' roms on here.
Also there seems to be some confusion on the ADP vs. G1 versions. Infact, it is the exact same phone, and the *exact* same software, but the tmobile release has the t-mobile logo and all their spam apps (my favs etc). Otherwise, they are the same thing!
Hope this cleared some stuff up.
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Where did you get your info? We had tons of users getting the update OTA for the 1.1 and even previous 1.0 builds. BTW there are 3 versions of software, 2 by t-mobile, 1 by google. The 2 t-mobile versions are US and UK which have different applications because of the way company each works.
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You probably got the google generic 1.5 update and not the t-mobile specific update.
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Where did you hear there is a generic google version? So far only the ADP 1.5 has been made available to us, and we only know of the ADP and T-Mobile versions.
There is also this one, cupcake for holiday phone europe
http://android.clients.google.com/updates/signed-dream_gfh_eu-ota-147201.ea8cd686.zip
posted here
http://phandroid.com/2009/05/05/official-german-cupcake-url-leaks-for-developers/
I have a T-mobile G1 on Rogers in canada with a data plan,
YES, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET THE UPDATE.
Originally i believed that i do not get updates, so i manually upgraded fron RC29, to RC30,
one day, at work, i got a notification to go from RC30 to RC33 OTA.
petko64 said:
I have a T-mobile G1 on Rogers in canada with a data plan,
YES, YOU WILL EVENTUALLY GET THE UPDATE.
Originally i believed that i do not get updates, so i manually upgraded fron RC29, to RC30,
one day, at work, i got a notification to go from RC30 to RC33 OTA.
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That could be because updates were stopped halfway through on one of the updates to make sure they fixed some security holes.
The last update I got before any T-mobile customers and I was on AT&T. I actually pulled the file off my phone and gave it to JesusFreke but by the time he got it the link had already been posted.
I'm thinking about getting a Moto X Style just for use everywhere I have wifi coverage (I'd have no cellular service/carrier at all). Does anyone know if I will still get all of the security/OS updates or can they only come from a carrier?
If you buy it from Motorola directly, the carrier is not involved. But don't think that means you'll get timely updates. Apparently Moto used to be good at this, but no longer. Mine is still on Android Security Patch Level: February 1, 2016
Can anyone confirm they've gotten an OTA update without a SIM card installed or been able to load current updates with Motorola Device Manager?
xdafan15 said:
Can anyone confirm they've gotten an OTA update without a SIM card installed or been able to load current updates with Motorola Device Manager?
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I have with my Moto G3 which is unlocked, purchased from Motorola. Haven't tried with the Pure, but it is a carrier free device as well.
If you watch logcat and check for updates on the device, you'll see it connects to a Motorola server to check as well.
Pretty sure that's how all the tmo people got the update before it was released to them.
Has anyone had experience using Motorola Device Manager to load current updates or are they only available over the air?
MXPE is not carrier branded so you can get OTA without a SIM. Doesn't matter where you buy the phone (I have seen it sold on Amazon and Best Buy as well)
Sent from my awesome phone!
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Can anyone confirm they've gotten an OTA update without a SIM card installed or been able to load current updates with Motorola Device Manager?
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I received my Moto X Style on Friday, didn't have a sim card inserted when I plugged it on. It was on Android 5.1.1 and as soon as I set out the home wifi, it told me there was a software update, and I got 6.0 installed.
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Has anyone had experience using Motorola Device Manager to load current updates or are they only available over the air?
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Has anyone used MDM?
xdafan15 said:
Has anyone used MDM?
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We're all trying to tell you that it works, it's fine, you don't need to worry. Carriers are not involved in delivering updates for unlocked devices because a) nothing is customized by any carrier on the unlocked device and b) your only relationship with them is via the SIM card, and you haven't paid them anything for the device. At the risk of sounding condescending, the thing you're worried about is just not how it works.
However, I went ahead and tried to install MDM just to test it out, and it seems that software has other unrelated problems and I can't use it.
So instead, I turned off mobile data and took the SIM card out, and confirmed yet again that it can connect to Motorola's update server and report that there are no updates available. So that's the real problem: you can update the device, but there are no updates to be had.
Edit: maybe the confusion is that term "OTA". Are you just talking about OTA as in over the cell network, or are you referring to WiFi as "OTA" as well? You know that those two work differently, right? OTA updates from a carrier via the cell network clearly only come from them, and clearly can't happen without a SIM. But there's not much difference in downloading the update from Motorola's server via WiFi on the device vs. downloading it via WiFi on your computer with MDM and sending it to the device via USB; it still comes from Motorola.
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We're all trying to tell you that it works, it's fine, you don't need to worry. Carriers are not involved in delivering updates for unlocked devices because a) nothing is customized by any carrier on the unlocked device and b) your only relationship with them is via the SIM card, and you haven't paid them anything for the device. At the risk of sounding condescending, the thing you're worried about is just not how it works.
However, I went ahead and tried to install MDM just to test it out, and it seems that software has other unrelated problems and I can't use it.
So instead, I turned off mobile data and took the SIM card out, and confirmed yet again that it can connect to Motorola's update server and report that there are no updates available. So that's the real problem: you can update the device, but there are no updates to be had.
Edit: maybe the confusion is that term "OTA". Are you just talking about OTA as in over the cell network, or are you referring to WiFi as "OTA" as well? You know that those two work differently, right? OTA updates from a carrier via the cell network clearly only come from them, and clearly can't happen without a SIM. But there's not much difference in downloading the update from Motorola's server via WiFi on the device vs. downloading it via WiFi on your computer with MDM and sending it to the device via USB; it still comes from Motorola.
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Thank you for trying to test MDM for me, I really appreciate that. I wish it had worked properly.
I'm not asking about MDM because I'm still questioning the OTA availability. That has been answered.
I'm asking because in the past, rooted phones wouldn't accept OTAs, so I'm trying to figure out how to apply security updates without having to un-root, then re-root. Maybe the answer to this is obvious, but it isn't to me.
Maybe the OTA availability problem mentioned above isn't an issue any more as I believe Marshmallow uses systemless root? I probably will stick with the stock ROM, just rooted.
@thejoelpatrol, are you rooted? If so, have you continued to be able to apply updates OTA?
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Thank you for trying to test MDM for me, I really appreciate that. I wish it had worked properly.
I'm not asking about MDM because I'm still questioning the OTA availability. That has been answered.
I'm asking because in the past, rooted phones wouldn't accept OTAs, so I'm trying to figure out how to apply security updates without having to un-root, then re-root. Maybe the answer to this is obvious, but it isn't to me.
Maybe the OTA availability problem mentioned above isn't an issue any more as I believe Marshmallow uses systemless root? I probably will stick with the stock ROM, just rooted.
@thejoelpatrol, are you rooted? If so, have you continued to be able to apply updates OTA?
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Ah, ok, now see that is a whole other issue. That would have been good to know from the start. No, I'm not rooted, but it's getting increasingly tiresome, so I'll probably need to do that at some point. I've mostly used Cyanogenmod in the past but last I checked it wasn't ready for clark. I'll probably take a look at some stock root options when I get around to it. And so your concern here is worth thinking about.
I have yet to find a simple guide on "How to load a custom ROM on your AT&T S7 Edge"
I've traveled all over the interwebs, including this website and many others but have not found a simple guide for noobs. I read about CWM, TWRP, Odin, rooting, zip files, tar files, nandroid, backup ROM, root with app, root via computer, blah, blah, blah, blah....
All I know is that before I do anything I want to backup the stock ROM but before that I'm thrown all kinds of different tools and processes that one could use. For the noob it should be as simple as:
Step 1: backup your stock ROM and to do this download/install this tool then follow these instructions.
Step 2: root your S7 Edge and to do this download/install this tool then follow these instructions.
Step 3: find a custom ROM you want to install and to do this go here, here or here for you model and download it to your PC.
Step 4: flash your custom ROM and to do this down/install this tool and follow these instructions.
Maybe I haven't done a good job of searching so shame on me but I don't feel like given the effort I've expended thus far has yielded a straight and easy answer when it probably should be. I seem to run across a lot of promising reads/threads about this only to find that there seems to be so much more knowledge and experience with the SM-935F and not so much with the SM-935A variant. On top of it, it would seem that I'm told that rooting will or will not break Samsung Pay and other apps/features or that the flag will or will not permanently trip that shows the device has been modified. Very confusing.
When I'm presented with a tar/zip download I'm not sure to where I'm supposed to be downloading. To my PC then used Odin s/w on the PC to install via USB cable to the handset?
Can someone please point me to the simple guide to get this going...or am I gonna have to write it myself? TIA.
BTW, I should note that I'm coming from a S3 on Virgin Mobile to a S7 Edge SM-G935A to be used on Cricket Wireless (AT&T). Since I'll be on Cricket and not directly a AT&T customer per se I'd like to get rid of all the bloatware that AT&T was so kind to load up on the handset. Right now it has Nougat 7.0 installed: samsung/hero2qlteuc/hero2qlteatt:7.0/NRD90M/G935AUCU4BQA6
I am not sure if you have a US version the S7 (Qualcomm G935A) or the S7 non US version. But if you have the US version, we are out of luck. Our bootloader is completely locked and all those steps you pointed out are not available.
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I am not sure if you have a US version the S7 (Qualcomm G935A) or the S7 non US version. But if you have the US version, we are out of luck. Our bootloader is completely locked and all those steps you pointed out are not available.
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So it seems that with all USA Qualcomm versions regardless of GSM carrier you have confirmed we pretty much cannot do much other than load some other versions of firmware such the U version ROM? From what I read HERE this is the Marshmallow 6.0 o/s. I currently have the stock Nougat 7.0 firmware from AT&T on my S7 Edge. Is there a debloated 7.0 version of the U ROM available?
UPDATE: Never mind...I came across THIS THREAD regarding an unbloated 7.0 U-version. I see you were active in that thread so now I need to read the entire thing before I have more questions and if so I'll ask them there. Thanks!
SyberTiger said:
So it seems that with all USA Qualcomm versions regardless of GSM carrier you have confirmed we pretty much cannot do much other than load some other versions of firmware such the U version ROM? From what I read HERE this is the Marshmallow 6.0 o/s. I currently have the stock Nougat 7.0 firmware from AT&T on my S7 Edge. Is there a debloated 7.0 version of the U ROM available?
UPDATE: Never mind...I came across THIS THREAD regarding an unbloated 7.0 U-version. I see you were active in that thread so now I need to read the entire thing before I have more questions and if so I'll ask them there. Thanks!
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If you still want to root your phone, you can follow this link and will let you get rid of all the bloat and root your phone, install xposed and all the mods for xposed. I have used the ENG.IMG version of root for the G935A over 6 months ago and it works great, given the choices we have.
Here's the link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...eres-how-rooted-nougat-s7-edge-g935t-t3567502
I know the thread is in the T-Mobile section but if you read the first line, it says it works for T-Mobile, ATT, Sprint, Verizon, etc. It is a very long thread but if you read mostly the later posts from @Craz Basics and you will be able to see that it works really nice.
Good luck
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If you still want to root your phone, you can follow this link and will let you get rid of all the bloat and root your phone, install xposed and all the mods for xposed. I have used the ENG.IMG version of root for the G935A over 6 months ago and it works great, given the choices we have.
Here's the link: https://forum.xda-developers.com/tm...eres-how-rooted-nougat-s7-edge-g935t-t3567502
I know the thread is in the T-Mobile section but if you read the first line, it says it works for T-Mobile, ATT, Sprint, Verizon, etc. It is a very long thread but if you read mostly the later posts from @Craz Basics and you will be able to see that it works really nice.
Good luck
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Hey thanks....but I have another question now that I'm given choices.
Which ROM is better, the U 7.0 ROM or the T-Mobile ROM you just linked? And, why is it better than the other?
SyberTiger said:
Hey thanks....but I have another question now that I'm given choices.
Which ROM is better, the U 7.0 ROM or the T-Mobile ROM you just linked? And, why is it better than the other?
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Ok the U 7.0 ROM is still un-rooted and bootloader locked. If you go that way, you get the U ROM with-out all the Bloat. But nothing more.
And the link is not really for the T-Mobile phone only. The ENG.IMG is for all makes of the Qualcomm chip. You install that and you are still with ATT. Still have all the things ATT provides like WiFi-Calling and other ATT things. And you can get rid of the Bloatware from the ATT ROM using different apps, like Titanium Backup. With the ENG.IMG you can root your phone and use all the apps that are available for Rooted Phones. One of the best is Titanium Backup. You can only use that one Rooted phones. If you have the U 7.0 ROM, you will have to use the same ENG.IMG to Root the U 7.0 ROM to get that OS rooted. And as I mentioned before you can use Xposed with the rooted phone.
If you are just looking to get rid of Bloatware on the ATT, there is an app for that also. Check out BK Disabler in the playstore. You can get rid of all the bloatware without rooting your phone.
Anyway, hope this make some kind of sense...
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Ok the U 7.0 ROM is still un-rooted and bootloader locked. If you go that way, you get the U ROM with-out all the Bloat. But nothing more.
And the link is not really for the T-Mobile phone only. The ENG.IMG is for all makes of the Qualcomm chip. You install that and you are still with ATT. Still have all the things ATT provides like WiFi-Calling and other ATT things. And you can get rid of the Bloatware from the ATT ROM using different apps, like Titanium Backup. With the ENG.IMG you can root your phone and use all the apps that are available for Rooted Phones. One of the best is Titanium Backup. You can only use that one Rooted phones. If you have the U 7.0 ROM, you will have to use the same ENG.IMG to Root the U 7.0 ROM to get that OS rooted. And as I mentioned before you can use Xposed with the rooted phone.
If you are just looking to get rid of Bloatware on the ATT, there is an app for that also. Check out BK Disabler in the playstore. You can get rid of all the bloatware without rooting your phone.
Anyway, hope this make some kind of sense...
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Thanks, appreciate it.
I'm really not planning on spending a lot of time making changes or tweaking the handset. I'm on Cricket Wireless therefore I don't see any value in the AT&T bloatware which is why I wanted it removed. My interest is primarily having the latest/greatest android version I can have without all the stuff junking it up. I'd like it to be as fast as is reasonably possibly but at the same time have reasonably good battery life. I'm coming from a Galaxy S3 on Virgin Mobile so the change to the S7E is a huge upgrade. I haven't figured out yet if there are any apps (that require rooting) that are so slick I can't live without them.
I installed the U 7.0 and as I recall I got about 5 or 6 OTA updates which in encouraging. I think the AT&T ROM never received any of the 3 or 4 most current security updates. Anyhow, U 7.0 is up and running with no AT&T bloatware.
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Thanks, appreciate it.
I'm really not planning on spending a lot of time making changes or tweaking the handset. I'm on Cricket Wireless therefore I don't see any value in the AT&T bloatware which is why I wanted it removed. My interest is primarily having the latest/greatest android version I can have without all the stuff junking it up. I'd like it to be as fast as is reasonably possibly but at the same time have reasonably good battery life. I'm coming from a Galaxy S3 on Virgin Mobile so the change to the S7E is a huge upgrade. I haven't figured out yet if there are any apps (that require rooting) that are so slick I can't live without them.
I installed the U 7.0 and as I recall I got about 5 or 6 OTA updates which in encouraging. I think the AT&T ROM never received any of the 3 or 4 most current security updates. Anyhow, U 7.0 is up and running with no AT&T bloatware.
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AT&T's software updater only works if you have an AT&T SIM card. This is why the first thing you should do if you buy an AT&T (or other carrier) device that you don't plan to use on that network is to convert it to the unlocked version. That, and AT&T (in particular) loads the crap out of their devices with bloatware to the point that switching to U feels like an early upgrade to the next generation device.
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AT&T's software updater only works if you have an AT&T SIM card. This is why the first thing you should do if you buy an AT&T (or other carrier) device that you don't plan to use on that network is to convert it to the unlocked version. That, and AT&T (in particular) loads the crap out of their devices with bloatware to the point that switching to U feels like an early upgrade to the next generation device.
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Yeah, I have a Cricket SIM which explains why this unlocked handset is stuck on 7.0 G935AUCU4BQA6 which is the February 1, 2017 update. Interestingly enough, the Network Signal Info app shows the SIM Operator as AT&T and Network Operator as Cricket/AT&T.
Going to the U got rid of all the bloatware and the handset immediately started receiving 5 or 6 OTA updates. I'll probably stick with the U version unless it becomes apparent there's a significantly better ROM available that increases performance, battery life or really adds some whizbangs that make the S7E experience a lot better.
forgive me for butting in -- I have a SM-G935A (stock) on Cricket as well.
Updates to the ROM and while keeping Samsung Pay are important to me.
In the past, I have d/led ATT updates and installed them using Odin, but that wipes my phone's apps/settings each time. Recently, I purchased an ATT sim & put the minimum $$$ on it with the intention of popping it in for OTA's. I've received BQK2, Nov 1 2017. It's a crappy work around, but the easiest I know of without having to rebuild my phone each Odin'ed update.
Would installing U or TMO firmware on the 935A remove the ability to use Samsung Pay? Would either of them be updated for frequently/easier than the 935A?
The U firmware supports Samsung pay and gets updates directly. The only downsides are no carrier features like wifi calling, etc., and if gets updates later than the carrier versions. I have run it on AT&T since I got the phone and it has worked fine.
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The U firmware supports Samsung pay and gets updates directly. The only downsides are no carrier features like wifi calling, etc., and if gets updates later than the carrier versions. I have run it on AT&T since I got the phone and it has worked fine.
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Thanks, jshamlet.
This is my first phone I haven't rooted & I feel a bit powerless without Xposed and Titanium Backup. I find myself using Samsung Pay so often, that I don't want to lose it & was concerned that installing the U (or TMO) firmware on the ATT version would trip Knox, too.
William Thornton said:
forgive me for butting in -- I have a SM-G935A (stock) on Cricket as well.
Updates to the ROM and while keeping Samsung Pay are important to me.
In the past, I have d/led ATT updates and installed them using Odin, but that wipes my phone's apps/settings each time. Recently, I purchased an ATT sim & put the minimum $$$ on it with the intention of popping it in for OTA's. I've received BQK2, Nov 1 2017. It's a crappy work around, but the easiest I know of without having to rebuild my phone each Odin'ed update.
Would installing U or TMO firmware on the 935A remove the ability to use Samsung Pay? Would either of them be updated for frequently/easier than the 935A?
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Hmm, doesn't Samsung Smart Switch back up everything?
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Hmm, doesn't Samsung Smart Switch back up everything?
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I've never gotten it working 100%.
William Thornton said:
I've never gotten it working 100%.
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I'd be talking about the PC version not the phone-to-phone setup. Back up to PC then from PC to your phone. Worked great for me.
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Hmm, doesn't Samsung Smart Switch back up everything?
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Um, no. No it doesn't. Helium (or if you are feeling oldster, ADB) does a vastly better job of backing up apps than Smart Switch. Smart Switch does a reasonably good job of putting your phone's settings back, but it doesn't appear to back up most app data.
I learned this the hard way.
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William Thornton said:
Thanks, jshamlet.
This is my first phone I haven't rooted & I feel a bit powerless without Xposed and Titanium Backup. I find myself using Samsung Pay so often, that I don't want to lose it & was concerned that installing the U (or TMO) firmware on the ATT version would trip Knox, too.
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Samsung Pay, with the MST technology, is one of those weirdly underrated features that continually amaze people. It works nearly anywhere you can physically see the mag stripe reader, which instantly makes it vastly more useful than either Apple Pay or Android Pay. I have had more than a few people say "We don't take Apple Pay", and then drop their jaw when the transaction goes through.
The fact that Samsung doesn't make a bigger deal about it is strange, because it really is one of those technologies that sets them apart from the other two.
Okay, so I used to love rooting my phones, but I mostly dealt with flagship phones in the US which made rooting and flashing a cakewalk. I understand some of the nitty gritty, so when I got my first phone in Japan, I was super excited about rooting it. But after reading this forum for hours, I have so many questions...my phone build is A2017G JPV1.1.0B03.
I read this but this mostly focused on using an update on this phone.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/help/a2017g-japan-to-a2017g-european-a2017g-t3608411
1. If that thread is correct, that means I technically just have the European version of the phone with Japanese modems installed. Is that correct?
2. Also, does that mean (if I were not to root the phone) I would need to install a European Axon 7 Oreo update for it to actually work on the phone? Would the US version fail?
3. I can't seem to find the modem for my phone. I can upload some screenshots later but can someone clarify if I'm right that it's a "B03" or am I looking at the wrong information?
4. There is no Oreo release for Japan, so does that mean I can't flash an Oreo ROM because there won't be any modems for this?
That's all for now, but I'm sure I have a lot of follow-up questions to your answers. Your help is greatly appreciated.
Unlock bootloader, install twrp, instal "G" model bootstack, instal any custom rom, then flash "G" modem in twrp, reboot. No matter where you device are from, the model matters. If its "G", its a european version and its only what you need to know. If you want stock oreo and didnt recieve through OTA, download the update in ZTE website for your "G" version, put it in a sdcard then reboot your phone to recovey then select "install update from sd card" option.
Basically, the model of the phone is printed on the back of it down the bottom.
A2017 is China version.
A2017U is US version.
A2017G is everything else (Global) version. It's not actually euro.
The modem software has to be for the actual model of the phone, not your location in the world.
Don't correlate software versions between Chinese, US and Global, they use different numbering systems. Only concentrate on what is for your model.
The rest of this pertains to A2017G as that is what you seem to have.
They start at B01 (usually pre-release beta) and go up from there but each new Android version eg Nougat, Oreo etc means the numbers restart from B01.
Nougat B03 has nothing to do with Oreo B03.
Look at the software version, A2017GV1.1.0 is very old, the 1.1.0 is the key to the Android version. 1.2.0 is Nougat, 1.3.0 is Oreo so you have Marshmallow at 1.1.0 and B03 release from that Android generation.
It seems confusing at first but it's actually quite simple.
RobboW said:
Basically, the model of the phone is printed on the back of it down the bottom.
A2017 is China version.
A2017U is US version.
A2017G is everything else (Global) version. It's not actually euro.
The modem software has to be for the actual model of the phone, not your location in the world.
Don't correlate software versions between Chinese, US and Global, they use different numbering systems. Only concentrate on what is for your model.
The rest of this pertains to A2017G as that is what you seem to have.
They start at B01 (usually pre-release beta) and go up from there but each new Android version eg Nougat, Oreo etc means the numbers restart from B01.
Nougat B03 has nothing to do with Oreo B03.
Look at the software version, A2017GV1.1.0 is very old, the 1.1.0 is the key to the Android version. 1.2.0 is Nougat, 1.3.0 is Oreo so you have Marshmallow at 1.1.0 and B03 release from that Android generation.
It seems confusing at first but it's actually quite simple.
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I'm so used to dealing with multiple modems for the same model of phone in the US (between the major carriers and stuff) that I was overthinking it.
Thanks a ton. That simplifies things so much...and also makes me wonder why updating never occurred for the Japanese release. It's not like there isn't language support for newer versions of Android, but maybe not for the MIUI? I need to be more careful choosing my next phone then, though probably it should be an AOSP phone like the Zenfone or Pixel.
Guess I have my work cut out for me this weekend. Time to run a giant backup and start rooting. Thanks again for all your help. I like this phone (though I often accidentally hover/touch the home button when typing, and I hope there's a sensitivity fix for that :laugh so I want it to last for a while before I get my next one.
It's still a good phone, I look at new phones and think, hmmm, nice, but what will I gain on a daily basis? Nothing more to be honest. The A7 has enough power for me still. The one thing I could really use would be a higher capacity battery. Was looking at Huawei phones but now, well.....
For updates, they had issues with OTA and reverted to only releasing for a whole ROM download for update from SD card.
I personally won't apply an OTA for mine even now at Oreo. Must be a whole ROM to flash with the updater. That's all I've done with it since purchase and it works great still. A lot of people seem to have all sorts of weird issues after applying OTA updates.
Sweet. As someone with some experience with this stuff, do you have any tips or tricks I should know moving forward? I'm going to try rooting it tonight.
-EDIT: Quick little question, my phone says the Android version is 7.1.1 but that would be Nougat, right? Or is it actually Marshmellow?
7.1.1 yeah, Nougat. That doesn't make sense from your first post.
Was it used when you got it or new? Have you checked the model from what's on the back of it, not what software says it is?
I keep mine stock, can't advise on rooting etc. I use it with personal and work SIMs and it has to pass requirements including encryption to run Microsoft InTune and our company portal and use it in work mode. Bootloader hasn't even been unlocked. The most I did was uninstall some built in user apps through ADB.
I also have a 2017G bought in Japan. I unlocked it and worked on it based on this forum, and I can say that it behaves as any other 2017G. I am not interested to use the stock ROM, but yes, I remember that it was on Nougat version when I received it.
I have the A2017 (china). As above, update your phone to the region. As a result of having a china variant, i think i miss out on band 28 and some other essential bands for reception. I get 3G/low 4G connections and a lot of bad reception areas (countryside living). Its no problem.
Currently running AEX 6.5. Search some of my recent posts for how I updated to this version.
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I have the A2017 (china). As above, update your phone to the region. As a result of having a china variant, i think i miss out on band 28 and some other essential bands for reception. I get 3G/low 4G connections and a lot of bad reception areas (countryside living). Its no problem.
Currently running AEX 6.5. Search some of my recent posts for how I updated to this version.
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Appreciate it. I will try to work on it this weekend, as last weekend I just didn't have the time...
The phone was brand new when i bought it. It was on a "super sale" though, going for 12,000 yen (like 110 bucks or so). I was thinking about getting a Zenfone but if I could save the money and make it to at least Oreo I'd be happy. Been having issues with the battery whenever I use more than 2 apps at a time.
If you could link an unlocking guide and a ROM that worked well for you that would be great. I have one I plan to use but I'm always open to suggestions. After the first time, I'll feel more comfortable with it. In the worst case scenario that I brick this thing I'll just buy the Zenfone early :laugh:
The Zenphone 6 is looking a viable buy now.
My Axon 7 is still good so not really looking but I did just get a new Axon 7 Mini for use as a media player. It still has AMOLED screen, stereo speakers, headphone jack, DAC for the jack etc. No hi res bluetooth though. Cost me AU$149 new in box from retail store. Bargain! How much is a dedicated music player which is crap at movies or just cant do them?
Chucked my 128Gb SD in. Sounds good playing through the car hifi, lower 3.5 jack output matches HU aux in impedance better than Axon 7 which can overload the input at high volume. Very balanced and clean sound.
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Appreciate it. I will try to work on it this weekend, as last weekend I just didn't have the time...
The phone was brand new when i bought it. It was on a "super sale" though, going for 12,000 yen (like 110 bucks or so). I was thinking about getting a Zenfone but if I could save the money and make it to at least Oreo I'd be happy. Been having issues with the battery whenever I use more than 2 apps at a time.
If you could link an unlocking guide and a ROM that worked well for you that would be great. I have one I plan to use but I'm always open to suggestions. After the first time, I'll feel more comfortable with it. In the worst case scenario that I brick this thing I'll just buy the Zenfone early :laugh:
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Where did you get in on a super sale? website in Japan?
Obvious unlocking guide is this one https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-axon-7-custom-oreo-roms-newbies-t3786693
Give yourself 2 hours to get the job done, and there are a few guides on youtube for unlocking the bootloader and installing TWRP (if you havent already).
If you cannot root the phone by your own discovery, I dont think you'll be up for installing a custom rom. It takes a degree of risk, and research. Being successful in the attempt is worth it.
Do a backup in TWRP, or get titanium backup pro (paid) to do a backup of your essential apps and data (email, messaging, google authenticator etc). I think titanium backup is better, especially if you are going from android 7 to 8 or 9 and different twrp versions.
If your phone boots following Oki's guide (Option 1), then scroll to the last page to my post about taking it to android 9 on AEX.
As your phone is A2017G, search for the necessary files in the forum corresponding to your modem. There are plenty of links.
Good luck and let us know you are successul!
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Where did you get in on a super sale? website in Japan?
Obvious unlocking guide is this one https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-axon-7-custom-oreo-roms-newbies-t3786693
Give yourself 2 hours to get the job done, and there are a few guides on youtube for unlocking the bootloader and installing TWRP (if you havent already).
If you cannot root the phone by your own discovery, I dont think you'll be up for installing a custom rom. It takes a degree of risk, and research. Being successful in the attempt is worth it.
Do a backup in TWRP, or get titanium backup pro (paid) to do a backup of your essential apps and data (email, messaging, google authenticator etc). I think titanium backup is better, especially if you are going from android 7 to 8 or 9 and different twrp versions.
If your phone boots following Oki's guide (Option 1), then scroll to the last page to my post about taking it to android 9 on AEX.
As your phone is A2017G, search for the necessary files in the forum corresponding to your modem. There are plenty of links.
Good luck and let us know you are successul!
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I bought it at Rakuten Mobile. There was a super sale and it was like 80% off, lol.
I tried using the guide over the last couple of days and no matter what I've done, I can't seem to get to recovery after doing the flashing (step 9). I was able to flash a stock image back on, but then when I try again it's the same results. I'm at a loss as to why but...there's another guide using the Axon7Tool.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-install-twrp-unlock-bl-flash-t3517379
The downside is that I work two jobs tomorrow so I won't have time to try this new one out but I think I downloaded everything already. This is kinda frustrating though..
-EDIT: I used the unbricking guide to EDL flash the B10 Nougat and it is a different experience than what I had before...geez, seems the Japanese version was severely neglected. If I run into problems with the other guide I feel comfortable EDL flashing Oreo. Really appreciate the support guys, let me know what you think. Before I started this, my battery was lasting barely 8 hours with only LINE and Chrome being the main background apps...
Not sure it's relevant here any more but I have a 128 Gb A2017 which I put a G build on, after being a bit miffed at some of the stuff (mostly Google based) I couldn't use on the original. I really don't know that much about what I'm doing but it all seems to work OK, though an old battery life problem has returned so I'm going to be asking elsewhere (probably) about how to replace the modem software. I also have a bit of a problem with GPS intermittently not working (going on and offline) but I suspect that's probably a hardware problem rather than the build. Mine is on
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Not sure it's relevant here any more but I have a 128 Gb A2017 which I put a G build on, after being a bit miffed at some of the stuff (mostly Google based) I couldn't use on the original. I really don't know that much about what I'm doing but it all seems to work OK, though an old battery life problem has returned so I'm going to be asking elsewhere (probably) about how to replace the modem software. I also have a bit of a problem with GPS intermittently not working (going on and offline) but I suspect that's probably a hardware problem rather than the build. Mine is on
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you can't. There are 3 modem variants by region (US, china, global) and many versions for each, but they are not interchangeable and flashing another has already wiped some IMEIs long ago (doesn't always happen though)
I just bought an unlocked AT&T phone. I don't care about security updates. I do like performance improvements and certain changes when moving to a new operating system though. However I am not willing to make those changes if I sacrifice stability.
Should I switch my AT&T rom to U.S unlocked? Is the gains worth it? Do I gain anything other then "Android 9 pie" in the settings? How is performance?
Will I get OTA updates after that or will I still need to use LGUP?
Thank you
Edit: I think I answered my own question. The ability to use HDMI out is not available until after the December 2018 update. My phone is stuck in November.
Also, unless you're an AT&T customer there's no reason to want or keep AT&T firmware.
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I just bought an unlocked AT&T phone. I don't care about security updates. I do like performance improvements and certain changes when moving to a new operating system though. However I am not willing to make those changes if I sacrifice stability.
Should I switch my AT&T rom to U.S unlocked? Is the gains worth it? Do I gain anything other then "Android 9 pie" in the settings? How is performance?
Will I get OTA updates after that or will I still need to use LGUP?
Thank you
Edit: I think I answered my own question. The ability to use HDMI out is not available until after the December 2018 update. My phone is stuck in November.
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Also, unless you're an AT&T customer there's no reason to want or keep AT&T firmware.
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Would only flashing and no root/bootloader unlock allow me to keep the serial and imei in the phone? Or should I make alot of backups of files?
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Would only flashing and no root/bootloader unlock allow me to keep the serial and imei in the phone? Or should I make alot of backups of files?
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Let's take one topic at a time.
Using Dev Patched LGUP to flash to NAO firmware for your carrier unlocked phone only gets rid of the AT&T bloat and allows you to update firmware while keeping AT&T firmware does not.
Nothing about that conversion touches serial or IMEI.
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Unlocking the Bootloader and rooting is a more advanced process which is harder. But that also normally shouldn't affect serial or IMEI. If you do lose serial or IMEI there's a method posted to write them back, I believe.
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Let's take one topic at a time.
Using Dev Patched LGUP to flash to NAO firmware for your carrier unlocked phone only gets rid of the AT&T bloat and allows you to update firmware while keeping AT&T firmware does not.
Nothing about that conversion touches serial or IMEI.
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Unlocking the Bootloader and rooting is a more advanced process which is harder. But that also normally shouldn't affect serial or IMEI. If you do lose serial or IMEI there's a method posted to write them back, I believe.
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Thank you!
I am new to all of this, but I have experience in computer so I am confident about my ability to do it.
With the talk of Android 10 available via OTA update on AT&T only, it might make sense for ppl who want Android 10 to stick with AT&T firmware because if you cross-flash there is no going back. Android 10 for other carriers is not out yet so if you cross-flash, you're stuck with Pie.
Sorry, nevermind, seems its coming out for all soon.
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With the talk of Android 10 available via OTA update on AT&T only, it might make sense for ppl who want Android 10 to stick with AT&T firmware because if you cross-flash there is no going back. Android 10 for other carriers is not out yet so if you cross-flash, you're stuck with Pie.
Sorry, nevermind, seems its coming out for all soon.
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For V35 on AT&T firmware, you won't get the OTA AT&T update unless you're an AT&T customer. Or AT&T MVNO Red Pocket customer.
Whereas you can flash to NAO Android 10 firmware when that is released via KDZ.
People, don't get hysterical like you did with the Pie update. All variants will get Android 10. All but AT&T will have full image KDZ which you can download and install.
NAO KDZ will be the best choice for those who are not Google Fi customer or AT&T customer.
Don't go trying to flash Korean carrier firmware like some did for Pie. Just be patient.
Stupid question... i bought one chep last year of course AT&T and i paid the unlock code, of course it came with Oreo and as later i found it couldn't get Pie. So i flashed it to the unlocked version, but as someone in other thread it seems that the firmware "official" has just been on Oreo, mine seems has security update of June and it has been updated this month with another security update...
Mine seems to work normally, however i could say it has three main flaws, first and most annoying for me is that do not disturb doesn't work properly even with rules established, only way to get it working is setting the alarm, which is a bit annoying considering that as for this virus situation i am not working since 2 months ago, and of course i don't want to get disturbed after 10:00 pm and also very early in the morning...
And second one is the signal which is worst than my previous V30+ converted to US998, funny because with other of my old phones as Z2 Force, Iphone 7 and of course US998 i could get easily 30MB+ at average using same SIM card and in the same area for more than two years, but since i have this V35 i can barely get 2MB at average and max 38MB, and max with the other ones mentioned i could get 45MB and in one time i got 60MB
And i don't know if mine has a weird battery but it can barely get around 15-16 hours of normal use.
Should i flash again to AT&T, flash the latest Pie with security update or just wait for the KDZ of Android 10?
And is that true that it now can be rooted?
This thread is widening in scope to the pros and cons of the various vendor roms and android levels. There are a couple of points to add toward that end. To my knowledge, all v35's on any existing rom can be rooted including the AT&T model. The difficulty with AT&T phones is that kdz's aren't released. You need to make your own backup before flashing to another rom if you want to return to AT&T firmware from say GFI/NA.
The next is about Oreo, at least the "h" NA/GFI build. Hotspot and tethering is broken. It may work once or twice after first setup, but it will stop working. That is a deal breaker for some. Everything (that matters to me) seems to work on Pie.
It will be interesting to hear reports on Android 10 on v35. Before taking the leap, it is important to know that ARB remains 0. An ARB change could lock you to Android 10. I don't recall reading about ARB changes on flagship LG phones in the past several years. Regardless, ARB or back-flashing is not yet reported and I do not know if qfil can overcome an ARB change. My suggestion is to be patient and watch for A10 v35 updates from the skilled, brave and sometimes foolhardy here on xda or tg.
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Stupid question... i bought one chep last year of course AT&T and i paid the unlock code, of course it came with Oreo and as later i found it couldn't get Pie. So i flashed it to the unlocked version, but as someone in other thread it seems that the firmware "official" has just been on Oreo, mine seems has security update of June and it has been updated this month with another security update...
Mine seems to work normally, however i could say it has three main flaws, first and most annoying for me is that do not disturb doesn't work properly even with rules established, only way to get it working is setting the alarm, which is a bit annoying considering that as for this virus situation i am not working since 2 months ago, and of course i don't want to get disturbed after 10:00 pm and also very early in the morning...
And second one is the signal which is worst than my previous V30+ converted to US998, funny because with other of my old phones as Z2 Force, Iphone 7 and of course US998 i could get easily 30MB+ at average using same SIM card and in the same area for more than two years, but since i have this V35 i can barely get 2MB at average and max 38MB, and max with the other ones mentioned i could get 45MB and in one time i got 60MB
And i don't know if mine has a weird battery but it can barely get around 15-16 hours of normal use.
Should i flash again to AT&T, flash the latest Pie with security update or just wait for the KDZ of Android 10?
And is that true that it now can be rooted?
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This thread is widening in scope to the pros and cons of the various vendor roms and android levels. There are a couple of points to add toward that end. To my knowledge, all v35's on any existing rom can be rooted including the AT&T model. The difficulty with AT&T phones is that kdz's aren't released. You need to make your own backup before flashing to another rom if you want to return to AT&T firmware from say GFI/NA.
The next is about Oreo, at least the "h" NA/GFI build. Hotspot and tethering is broken. It may work once or twice after first setup, but it will stop working. That is a deal breaker for some. Everything (that matters to me) seems to work on Pie.
It will be interesting to hear reports on Android 10 on v35. Before taking the leap, it is important to know that ARB remains 0. An ARB change could lock you to Android 10. I don't recall reading about ARB changes on flagship LG phones in the past several years. Regardless, ARB or back-flashing is not yet reported and I do not know if qfil can overcome an ARB change. My suggestion is to be patient and watch for A10 v35 updates from the skilled, brave and sometimes foolhardy here on xda or tg.
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Well my teher works, the phone itself has been good for the amount i paid $100, however those bugs or may be wrong flash? affects me a bit... i guess i should be patient and wait for the kdz.
Can anybody confirm this?
https://piunikaweb.com/2020/06/09/lg-v35-thinq-android-10-lg-ux-9-0-update-rolling-out/
Says that LG G7 Android 10 can be flashed to the V35...
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Can anybody confirm this?
https://piunikaweb.com/2020/06/09/lg-v35-thinq-android-10-lg-ux-9-0-update-rolling-out/
Says that LG G7 Android 10 can be flashed to the V35...
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NO, that article doesn't say that. It doesn't mention LG G7 whatsoever at all. Seriously. You are just making stuff up?
Confirm what? That you can cross flash to Korean carrier V35 firmware to other V35 against our advice? Why would you want to do that? Just be patient!
Here's my reply from earlier in the thread. Please read it this time.
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For V35 on AT&T firmware, you won't get the OTA AT&T update unless you're an AT&T customer. Or AT&T MVNO Red Pocket customer.
Whereas you can flash to NAO Android 10 firmware when that is released via KDZ.
People, don't get hysterical like you did with the Pie update. All variants will get Android 10. All but AT&T will have full image KDZ which you can download and install.
NAO KDZ will be the best choice for those who are not Google Fi customer or AT&T customer.
Don't go trying to flash Korean carrier firmware like some did for Pie. Just be patient.
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NO, that article doesn't say that. It doesn't mention LG G7 whatsoever at all. Seriously. You are just making stuff up?
Confirm what? That you can cross flash to Korean carrier V35 firmware to other V35 against our advice? Why would you want to do that? Just be patient!
Here's my reply from earlier in the thread. Please read it this time.
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i know but is kinda weird that even that article links to Reddit and some people on the video saying they flashed "successfully" their v35...
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i know but is kinda weird that even that article links to Reddit and some people on the video saying they flashed "successfully" their v35...
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Yet again, we went all through this a year ago with Pie.
You can flash it "successfully" but you wipe all data, some of the menus are in Korean... Then a month or so later every other variant gets a KDZ (EXCEPT for AT&T). So then people have flash again to what they REALLY want -- which is a North American Open (NAO) carrier unlocked variant firmware. AND they lose data again and risk messing up their phone by cross flashing entirely different region yet again.
There's no need to do it. JUST WAIT. FLASH to NAO firmware when Android 10 is released for that variant.
If you're already on NAO firmware now, then when Android 10 is released for that variant, it would be simple "Upgrade" in Dev Patched LGUP (keep your data). If you're not yet, then it would be Partition DL or Refurbish mode to cross flash to NAO at that time. You would lose your data only once.
The people who are impatient are NOT going to stay on Korean carrier firmware long term. They will cross flash yet again to NAO when it comes out, because it's more desirable. They will be unhappy with the Korean carrier firmware. Many will mess up their phones. Don't be one those people!
Look it's your phone. Do what you want. But weeks ago I predicted this would happen and have cautioned people to not make the same mistakes again that were made last year during Pie rollout.
I just installed the korean ROM and it works... kinda good there are some minor bugs that may bother you if you pay too much attention or that are a bit annoying i am going to put here:
As soon you reboot your phone it is going to give you some warning about well some codes and stuff, i guess because the hardware is not the same?
Menu is in korean at set up but you can change it to your language
There are 3 apps that are in korean and you can't uninstall it, specially Q voice that is on korean language not working
LG Smart World does not work, but anyway i never used it, also Quick Help but it never worked on Pie too so its irrelevant
There is one app called DMB which does not work, don't know what it does but it just freeze when i try to open it
Some weird bug with the battery? It doesn't show up the estimated remaining battery, it just keep on calculating data
For some reason i haven't been able to find or change the data configuration, you know change LTE, 3G or 2G. Seems like it is on auto mode which is kinda annoying for me.
The only drawback i could say for me its dual apps... is not that easy as on Pie
And for some reason it fixed in my case the annoying but it had about do not disturb, which only worked when an alarm was set, but if there wasn't alarm it never worked
Seems the "AI" camera has been improved or fixed because when i selected AI cam it just never do anything relevant compared with my old V30+, now it recognize stuff such person and so on
Although i love stock music player i just hate the annoying purple tone with it, now it changes depending on the setup of the midnight menu. I think that on a rooted v30+ it could be changed but i am not interested on root it and doubt being on Android 10 could be rooted. But it has integraded FM app radio which i regulary use but being the american version of course it has been removed, so it has to be installed manually
What i like its that now it has integrated viedo screen recorder so good bye third party apps, which in my case i really don't like you know if you don't pay you have adds and stuff related.
But the drag menu is with a bug? i don't know how to explain it but it just goes with the hour and date long... instead of just taking a portion of the screen
I just did it and didn't wait because my v35 is broken so i need to change or leave it as secondary phone, around 20 days ago the fingerprint begun to be erratic and was hit or miss trying to unlock it, i have tried cleaning it but it worked as i mentioned on hit or miss. Right now seems i can't configure it. No idea why it just became erratic. And there was a little crack on top of the screen and it seems it got wet under the screen with a white spot, so i guess it is going to be progressively worst with time. Even i tried the old trick of putting on a zip bag but after i left it for the night, when i opened it in the morning it was just wet...
My only question could be if this can be flashed to the North America firmware...
tonochito said:
My only question could be if this can be flashed to the North America firmware...
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People who flashed to Korean Pie last year were able to flash to North American Open (NAO) Pie when that was released a month or two later.
For most people, cross flashing from AT&T to NAO first and then waiting for Pie would (using Dev Patched LGUP Upgrade mode) have been the better decision. Instead of cross flashing twice -- to Korean, then again to NAO -- to different variant firmware. NAO was what they really wanted in the first place.
OR if already on NAO, just be patient. Android 10 is coming.
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People who flashed to Korean Pie last year were able to flash to North American Open (NAO) Pie when that was released a month or two later.
For most people, cross flashing from AT&T to NAO first and then waiting for Pie would (using Dev Patched LGUP Upgrade mode) have been the better decision. Instead of cross flashing twice -- to Korean, then again to NAO -- to different variant firmware. NAO was what they really wanted in the first place.
OR if already on NAO, just be patient. Android 10 is coming.
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Well it seems that when NAO kdz will be available i will have the G8, as for me the fingerprint stuff drives me nuts right now that is not working lol, it has been a fantastic phone just well i guess it's time to move on. At least is good that can be flashed to NAO easily and with no problems like other brands out there.
Hello everyone,
I cross-flashed Android 10 on my v35 following this guide everything went as expected.
* I restored my backup from original Android 9 without any problems.
* Overall the phone feels faster, the camera experience is better(not sure that it has any benefits in the quality), unfortunately we cannot change lens during video
* The gCam 6.2 that I was using and was previously kinda stable now cannot save the picture, installed a 5.2 version that was stable in G6 -> v30 and v35 and I will be using this one until the problems with 6.x or 7.x are resolved.
* There are some korean apps that can be hidden but it they do not create any problems.
* Gestures are exactly what I needed and far better than FNG (apart from the customization options that are completely missing)
* Battery is also considerably better, but must be tested in time.
Hello to everyone!
Recently i bought an unlocked AT&T LG V35 which i am using it in Europe without any issue.
I want to cross-flash it in NA ULM kdz cause i don't want the AT&T firmware,but after a lot of reading here and there about the way i have to flash,i am a little bit confused,so i have some questions in order to go on.
My phone came with Pie version AWM20c and security patch level July 1,2019.
1)Which version of NA kdz should i download from LG firmwares site?
I see 4 versions..AIO,GFI,AMZ and USA..Maybe the latter is the most suitable?
2)Should i first crossflash it to Oreo NAO firmware and after update to Pie,(like used to do with LG V30 US998 that we must first install Nougat),or going straight away to NAO Pie?
3)The method of crossflashing is the same like LG V30 from other carriers to US998,as it is in Frankenstein thread?
4)Which of 2 methods between Refurbish and Partition DL is better for my case?
I want a completely clean kdz install,because a weird fact happens to my storage capacity in System,which has 16GB of storage used,and i suppose that all this used capacity,is because of AT&T bloated firmware,in addition to my 2 LG V30's,one is AT&T unlocked and the other is open EU 930,that both have about 10 GB used storage from system.
Thank you all in advance for your answers.
Succesfully crossflashed ULM firmware NAO USA 20f,android 9,security patch level February 1,2020.
Previous software version was android 9,AWM20c,security patch level July 1,2019.
I followed the same procedure of Frankenstein LG V30,V30+.
I used the Partition DL mode to flash and everything went fine..just in the end of the process and after the phone rebooted for first time,i got a notification referring the below:
"Decryption unsuccessful
The password you entered is correct,but unfortunately your data is corrupt.
To resume using your phone,you need to perform a factory reset.When you set up your phone after the reset,you"ll have an opportunity to restore any data that was backed up to your Google Account.
Reset phone"
I don't know if this notification is something bad,but all looked normal after the reset.
No issues till now,no AT&T bloatware,LG logo when powering on,instead of AT&T logo.
As others mentioned,the software version form,remains AWM,instead of ULM.
The previous version from AT&T was AWM20c,now it is AWM20f despite the fact that i have ULM firmware.
I hope my infos can help others in future.
Of course a big thank you goes to everyone here that contributes with their knowledge,making all these useful guides.