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[Q] H+ What does it mean

Hi there am new to the Samsung Galaxy s5. I recently bought my phone thru Verizon but decided to go to T-Mobile. I had my phone unlocked and such but ever since doing so I have a "H+" where the 4GLTE usually is. Can anyone explain what this is. Did they miss up something when unlocking the phone. Any help is appreciated Thanks.

azmommaof5 said:
Hi there am new to the Samsung Galaxy s5. I recently bought my phone thru Verizon but decided to go to T-Mobile. I had my phone unlocked and such but ever since doing so I have a "H+" where the 4GLTE usually is. Can anyone explain what this is. Did they miss up something when unlocking the phone. Any help is appreciated Thanks.
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If im not mistaken, Tmobile doesn't offer a true LTE network in some areas.. H+ is their version of high speed data network traffic..
...only heresay...

Really any suggestions on what to do?
OJsakila said:
If im not mistaken, Tmobile doesn't offer a true LTE network in some areas.. H+ is their version of high speed data network traffic..
...only heresay...
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azmommaof5 said:
Really any suggestions on what to do?
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About what? the icon up top? are you having any data difficulties?

Yes the phone runs real slow at times. Am not sure if the guy even unlocked it probably. All he did was change the apn. Is that right. Again am new to this.

azmommaof5 said:
Yes the phone runs real slow at times. Am not sure if the guy even unlocked it probably. All he did was change the apn. Is that right. Again am new to this.
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I'm afraid that in most areas tmobile is substandard compared to Verizon.. and isn't one carrier cdma and the other GSM? where are you geographically? is tmobile the superior carrier in your region... its doubtful..

Chandler Arizona not sure who is more dominanting. How would I find out. We switched because we use a lot of data. Other then that we would've stayed with Verizon.

H+ is fast 3G

Hellscythe said:
H+ is fast 3G
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But not as fast as LTE, right?

OJsakila said:
But not as fast as LTE, right?
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Correct.
But H+ (HSPA+) is faster than H (HSDPA) ,G (GPRS) and E (EDGE)

H+ could also indicate dual channel hsdpa which from memory has a limit of 42mb... In the UK many people on dc-hsdpa report speeds of around 20mb which is comparable to many LTE speeds here.
You may not be that different there.
Unless you are downloading large files through your phone, there is very little advantage on a fast data connection, a HD video will stream quite easily on 4 to 5mb

Android 10 and LTE on t-mobile.

On Android 9, I was seeing LTE+ with t-mobile w/ 70 to 95Mbps download speeds on speedtest app. Now w/ Android 10, I only see LTE (no plus), and speed is back to old LTE speeds of around 25-30 Mbps. Others encounter similar change? [Update: tested again and don't see LTE+ but do have the speed back at 85Mbps download speed]

rapatelrocky said:
On Android 9, I was seeing LTE+ with t-mobile w/ 70 to 95Mbps download speeds on speedtest app. Now w/ Android 10, I only see LTE (no plus), and speed is back to old LTE speeds of around 25-30 Mbps. Others encounter similar change? [Update: tested again and don't see LTE+ but do have the speed back at 85Mbps download speed]
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Hi there, sorry to jump on this boat... but I have a similar experience. I'm from Vancouver Canada and I used to get LTE+ but since Andorid 10, I can only get 4G+. Tried forcing it *#*#4636... but it won't show LTE. To be fair, I ran some test and I am getting about 100 mbs download.
Is 4G+ same as LTE+?
Anyone else experiencing these issues?
Thanks.

rapatelrocky said:
On Android 9, I was seeing LTE+ with t-mobile w/ 70 to 95Mbps download speeds on speedtest app. Now w/ Android 10, I only see LTE (no plus), and speed is back to old LTE speeds of around 25-30 Mbps. Others encounter similar change? [Update: tested again and don't see LTE+ but do have the speed back at 85Mbps download speed]
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Same for me in AT&T, it showed LTE+ in Pie, but in Q is LTE
I didn't do speed test, so not sure if they did wrong label or it's a bug
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seetohcw said:
Hi there, sorry to jump on this boat... but I have a similar experience. I'm from Vancouver Canada and I used to get LTE+ but since Andorid 10, I can only get 4G+. Tried forcing it *#*#4636... but it won't show LTE. To be fair, I ran some test and I am getting about 100 mbs download.
Is 4G+ same as LTE+?
Anyone else experiencing these issues?
Thanks.
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Look like they had this problem since beta 5 and it's not fixed yet
https://piunikaweb.com/2019/07/20/a...oogle-pixel-2-xl-network-connectivity-issues/

Same here in switzerland with "Wingo".
Just LTE. With pie, i had LTE+ and VoLTE, not with Android 10.
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Maybe they just reduced the number of icons, so we don't get those versions for connectivity any more?

rapatelrocky said:
Maybe they just reduced the number of icons, so we don't get those versions for connectivity any more?
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Seems likely, same for me on Australian Vodafone, just says LTE now.

Constant switching between LTE and LTE+
Same issue here, although mine constantly flashes the + on and off. I can watch it and it'll alternate several times in the span of ten seconds. I have a 3 XL on Fido/Rogers. Found the same issue here:
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13735350?hl=en

IronRoo said:
Seems likely, same for me on Australian Vodafone, just says LTE now.
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EndlessBliss said:
Same issue here, although mine constantly flashes the + on and off. I can watch it and it'll alternate several times in the span of ten seconds. I have a 3 XL on Fido/Rogers. Found the same issue here:
https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/13735350?hl=en
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That proves me wrong then! Not simplified icon set!

have a similar issue
i also noticed that i no more have the enhanced lte menu in network settings. how is this at yours?

hs911 said:
have a similar issue
i also noticed that i no more have the enhanced lte menu in network settings. how is this at yours?
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Yes that's why I was thinking they had simplified settings p icons (due to 5g I assumed, well you know what they say about assume! ?)

Mi Mix 5G - how do I turn on 5G?

Hey
I recently bought a Mi Mix 3 5G and I get 5g signal come up on the top of the screen where I am, but the speeds are only coming through as 4g speeds.
when in *#*#4636#*#* I can see that I'm connected to LTE and not 5g.
Can anyone tell me how to enable 5G properly?

Practically no 5G coverage in the world...
https://www.worldtimezone.com/5g.html

Yea, maybe so... But I have coverage where I live.
I already subscribe to home 5g broadband through my provider and it runs on band n78.
So I get a signal, full 5g bars but speeds aren't 5g using the mi mix.
My home broadband 5g service is 400mbps.

slebeau1988 said:
Yea, maybe so... But I have coverage where I live.
I already subscribe to home 5g broadband through my provider and it runs on band n78.
So I get a signal, full 5g bars but speeds aren't 5g using the mi mix.
My home broadband 5g service is 400mbps.
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Are you talking 5g through your home internet router? That's not the same thing. That's WiFi.
5g network is from your carrier and if your carrier has it it would be set up city wide not just at your home.

My home broadband 5g is a separate device.
I was only mentioning it to demonstrate I have 5g service where I live.
While my phone is disconnected from wifi, I get a 5g signal instead of 4g.
The speed however is only 25mbps as opposed to my home 5g broadband modem which is 350-400 mbps.
Does that make sense?

slebeau1988 said:
My home broadband 5g is a separate device.
I was only mentioning it to demonstrate I have 5g service where I live.
While my phone is disconnected from wifi, I get a 5g signal instead of 4g.
The speed however is only 25mbps as opposed to my home 5g broadband modem which is 350-400 mbps.
Does that make sense?
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Maybe your data plan is limited?

Nah pulling over 200mbps on 4g.
My network operator has said they've enabled 5g on my sim.

slebeau1988 said:
Nah pulling over 200mbps on 4g.
My network operator has said they've enabled 5g on my sim.
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Make sure your phone is up to date (5G didn't work at all on my Mi Mix 3 5G until I updated) and 5G is on in SIM card & mobile networks > Preferred network type.

Yea I've got the settings all set to allow it.
I get a 5g signal too but the speeds are like a single band of 4g.
Here's a screenshot of it all "working"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Wzs5KRWoDAYIsxTjBvVzTzhPUFTbCkW/view?usp=drivesdk
Which version of firmware are you running?
I'm using the latest global rom.

slebeau1988 said:
Yea I've got the settings all set to allow it.
I get a 5g signal too but the speeds are like a single band of 4g.
Here's a screenshot of it all "working"
https://drive.google.com/file/d/11Wzs5KRWoDAYIsxTjBvVzTzhPUFTbCkW/view?usp=drivesdk
Which version of firmware are you running?
I'm using the latest global rom.
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I'm on the global rom 10.3.19 and I get a strange problem too - 4G appears in the bar at the top but I get 5G speeds - but I guess it does work.

Lol that's the opposite of my problem ?

I'm having a similar problem. Connecting to 5g but speeds range between 2 MB (yep that's right) to 150 MB - which is similar to what I can get in 4g.
Did you find a solution?

No solution yet.
Going to flash the new EU rom soon to see if that fixes it. I'm running global ATM.
What rom are you running and what network?

slebeau1988 said:
No solution yet.
Going to flash the new EU rom soon to see if that fixes it. I'm running global ATM.
What rom are you running and what network?
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Does it run the Perseus rom? I don't see one for the 5G.

You have to contact your mobile company and ask to activate the 5g service on your SIM card , all I know that the 5g service is still available for postpaid not prepaid. And they may ask you to go for the newest branch to change your SIM to make it work

Flashed the EU ROM, doesn't even have 5g as an option in preferred network settings.
Wtf is wrong with this phone?

I am on PEMEUXM MIUI Global 10.3.21
and in the telekom germany network it shows 5G in the settings
but in the vodafone germany network it does not show 5G in the settings
Contracts both allow for 5G - I am in the hotline loop with vodafone germany right now to get the Mi Mix 3 5G activated.
Edit: The hotline answered that Xiaomi has to enable the 5G settings button in android through an OTA update. Anyone knows if this is part of the global beta rom? Thanks!

Have you had any luck?

Any joy resolving?

Nope.

T-Mobile standalone 5g

So, our phone get this right?

Yup
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Getting it here in southern Nevada...

How are you already getting it if TMO had to push out an update for users on tmo phones?

Are u talking about the 600Mhz band? That's n71 and is supported by our phone.
They also use band n41, n260 and n261.
n260 and n261 may not be supported but that's not where TMobile has released their dedicated 5G (28GHz and 39Ghz both FR2).
I'm not currently on their new 600Mhz band but rather using their shared n2 band currently (1900Mhz) according to the cell mapper app.
Getting around 130Mbps on speed test so it's not too bad.
Also I'm on Metro but technically speaking same network.
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SA connection requires provider approval I believe. So technically no we can't use it yet.
That being said again the op8 pro does have hw support for n71 sa which is the band TMO released for their dedicated network.
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I'm on a 2025 AA since May and have had 5g the whole time. It has bands 71, 41 & 42 I believe. Been getting over 200 MBS at times.

Must be nice! I live in a suburb of PHX (8 miles from downtown) and get terrible coverage at home (4G + 5G)...so much for 1 tower covering hundreds of miles

I'm in bumf PA near the Amish so that's to tell u
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Didn't think the 8 Pro could do proper SA? (only NSA)

Could be wrong but based on https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.gsmarena.com/oneplus_8_pro-ampp-9919.php
It does. Also since last year's McLaren did, I would be surprised ours wouldn't
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I just wonder if it is going to require an update... As the TMobile branded 8 did.

TMobile can't push updates to unlocked phones so if required we won't be able to get it.
That being said they definitely seem to be the provider that's less stringent about allowing unlocked devices on the network so chances are much greater than on AT&T's network for instance.
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mastibeta said:
I just wonder if it is going to require an update... As the TMobile branded 8 did.
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Are you sure the update was for that. I believe the update just activated additional frequencies.

echto said:
Are you sure the update was for that. I believe the update just activated additional frequencies.
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No, the update on the op8 from t mobile was to enable SA as well as a new security patch. I have op8 t mobile as well as 8 pro, can only get SA on op8 from t mobile right now and was only after installing that update. We will have to get an update on the 8 pro before we are able to use SA, hopefully the update is relatively soon.

Out of curiosity what are the performance delta between the 2?
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mastibeta said:
I just wonder if it is going to require an update... As the TMobile branded 8 did.
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jeffsga88 said:
No, the update on the op8 from t mobile was to enable SA as well as a new security patch. I have op8 t mobile as well as 8 pro, can only get SA on op8 from t mobile right now and was only after installing that update. We will have to get an update on the 8 pro before we are able to use SA, hopefully the update is relatively soon.
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Ah, ok. I haven't turned my tmo oneplus 8 on in a while. I have both as well and am curious if SA improves reception in my neighborhood. Guess I better turn it on and update it. Thanks for the info. I was unaware there was a new update.

samw52000 said:
Out of curiosity what are the performance delta between the 2?
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The performance of SA n71 will be less than running n71 in NSA miss, simply because you're losing your LTE aggregation. However, without needing the midband LTE anchors, you can now connect to 5G on n71 in places where you couldn't before because either midband LTE was too weak of a signal or just didn't exist. Ping times for SA are lower on SA as well. If you want a direct comparison between LTE, NSA and SA, look at my other post https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83222337&postcount=21.
Edit: This link also has some comparisons as well using Network Signal Guru https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83222499&postcount=23.
echto said:
Ah, ok. I haven't turned my tmo oneplus 8 on in a while. I have both as well and am curious if SA improves reception in my neighborhood. Guess I better turn it on and update it. Thanks for the info. I was unaware there was a new update.
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Currently, t mobile is having phones still lock on to NSA by default. If you still have a useable midband LTE signal, chances are you'll lock on to NSA instead. You can manually force SA mode, although then you can't make or receive phone calls. Although that depends on where you are as well (I know someone in another market with t mobile op8 and if he forces SA, he's still able to receive calls just not make them).

Not sure if I'm the only one but this latest TMO update has messed up my 5g connection on my S20 Ultra. Whenever I go on WiFi for more than a few hours and then try to go back to 5g I won't get an internet connection and have to disable 5g (force an LTE connection) and enable it back on so that it's working again. This is annoying. If anyone has any suggestions or is experiencing the same issue please let me know!
Edit: Seems like I posted on the wrong forum (One Plus), but still wondering if this is a device issue or a network issue so I'll leave the post as is.

oscarm003 said:
Not sure if I'm the only one but this latest TMO update has messed up my 5g connection on my S20 Ultra. Whenever I go on WiFi for more than a few hours and then try to go back to 5g I won't get an internet connection and have to disable 5g (force an LTE connection) and enable it back on so that it's working again. This is annoying. If anyone has any suggestions or is experiencing the same issue please let me know!
Edit: Seems like I posted on the wrong forum (One Plus), but still wondering if this is a device issue or a network issue so I'll leave the post as is.
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That's a bit odd, because I'm experiencing the same issue on my OnePlus 8 Pro.
Haven't found a fix yet, have you?

What is the baseband version you have on 5G SA builds?? I believe, it should be >= 2.0. Unfortunately on all OS 10 I saw only 1.0.c8 something, which most likely will not support Dynamic Spectrum Sharing, neither 5G StandAlone.

[Visual Poll] 5G Speeds

Mods:Feel free to move this if its in the wrong place!
For those of you lucky enough to live or pass through a 5G area, what kind of speeds have you been getting? Feel free to post screenshots and blur out any personal info!

Lol was talking to my provider today about 5G my speeds are awful so I just use 4G, I get about 10-50Mb on 5G and 99+ Mb on 4G which is more than enough.. course it's great to have a lot of speed but anything over 200 is overkill really..
Maybe one day they'll fix their network but I doubt it..
Great to see the speeds you're getting.
I'm in the UK on three btw.
Shocking speeds.
My old network EE gave me 275Mb + on 4G superior network, three is awful.

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Lol was talking to my provider today about 5G my speeds are awful so I just use 4G, I get about 10-50Mb on 5G and 99+ Mb on 4G which is more than enough.. course it's great to have a lot of speed but anything over 200 is overkill really..
Maybe one day they'll fix their network but I doubt it..
Great to see the speeds you're getting.
I'm in the UK on three btw.
Shocking speeds.
My old network EE gave me 275Mb + on 4G superior network, three is awful.
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5G is a lot more dependant on signal strength. With 3/4 to 1/2 4G+ at home I get anywhere from 60-130 down. That 5G was outside a shop a few miles away, so had full signal. I'm also on Three (I wouldn't be speed testing 5G if I didn't have unlimited data, that test used nearly 1GB data). The 4g in my city centre is terrible though, the network is very overcrowded. We will be safe on 5G for a little while until it becomes more mainstream on phones and three gets overcrowded again. EE is great for pure coverage I agree, but for a long time they didn't give unlimited data, and given I use over 150gb a month, I need it as most packages are no where near that lol
Edit: when you pick a server, try one closer to you, and also just try ASK4 in Sheffield. That's a super fast server for me even though I'm no where near it. My 5g test was to that server

manor7777 said:
5G is a lot more dependant on signal strength. With 3/4 to 1/2 4G+ at home I get anywhere from 60-130 down. That 5G was outside a shop a few miles away, so had full signal. I'm also on Three (I wouldn't be speed testing 5G if I didn't have unlimited data, that test used nearly 1GB data). The 4g in my city centre is terrible though, the network is very overcrowded. We will be safe on 5G for a little while until it becomes more mainstream on phones and three gets overcrowded again. EE is great for pure coverage I agree, but for a long time they didn't give unlimited data, and given I use over 150gb a month, I need it as most packages are no where near that lol
Edit: when you pick a server, try one closer to you, and also just try ASK4 in Sheffield. That's a super fast server for me even though I'm no where near it. My 5g test was to that server
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I'm in London, I've tested this everywhere and i have tonnes of data.. I've tested all over London, on tops of buildings in Oxford Street, kinds cross, Ruislip, Holborn, to name but a few.
It's always crap.
Why on earth do you use 150GB? Don't you have WiFi anywhere you go?
I can manage with next to no data usage, WiFi at home, WiFi at work.
I've tried different servers but I'll see what happens with the Sheffield one..
Cheers.

I get up to 250 for download and 50 for upload

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I'm in London, I've tested this everywhere and i have tonnes of data.. I've tested all over London, on tops of buildings in Oxford Street, kinds cross, Ruislip, Holborn, to name but a few.
It's always crap.
Why on earth do you use 150GB? Don't you have WiFi anywhere you go?
I can manage with next to no data usage, WiFi at home, WiFi at work.
I've tried different servers but I'll see what happens with the Sheffield one..
Cheers.
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I have WiFi at home, but I have unlimited data - according to three I'm not anywhere near a top 1% user either! ? I'm mobile IT tech. A lot of places I go to are in the middle of nowhere, and either have no WiFi (middle of field etc), won't give me access (some companies provision by MAC address, so for a short 1 hour job it's not worth their time provisioning my device properly), or it's so slow I may as well be using dialup so I tend to use my phone's connection with my laptop. I also stream some pretty HQ music so that adds up, but max I've ever used a month on that is like 10GB
If your area is crap, it's probably going to be crap even using ASK4's Sheffield server. I just noticed that your connection screenshot went quite high, then super low, so it looked like it was a little unstable. ASK4 is usually stable for testing for me, so thought it was worth a try!

I get 696mb download and 45mb upload.

wilpang said:
I get 696mb download and 45mb upload.
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Got a screenshot to show signal strength and server tested to etc?

I did one while going for a walk.

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I did one while going for a walk.
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Hide your IP mate

About 5g.
I have european version in2023 (8gb/128gb, black color) , but my phone have no 5g in Settings > SIM & network settings > Preferred network type.
On Samsung Note 10+ 5g, have 5g on Settings, on the same network.
Do you friends who have the same version & live in Europa have it ?

null0seven said:
About 5g.
I have european version in2023 (8gb/128gb, black color) , but my phone have no 5g in Settings > SIM & network settings > Preferred network type.
On Samsung Note 10+ 5g, have 5g on Settings, on the same network.
Do you friends who have the same version & live in Europa have it ?
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This isn't a support thread. You should start your own thread in Q&A
I do have an IN2023 though, 12/256 and I have 5G, even used it recently. It's dependant on a few things, from carrier enabling it, to your sim card being 5g capable. Try contacting your carrier, works fine here and I'm on EU firmware

With the same SIM i got 5g on ****ty Samsung note 10+ 5g.

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With the same SIM i got 5g on ****ty Samsung note 10+ 5g.
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Then the phone may not be allowed on the networks 5G, or it may not support that networks bands. Again, call your carrier and check, they will probably sort it for you

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Please see attached, bear in mind that's not all of my town. Fastest and my historical checks around the area.

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Please see attached, bear in mind that's not all of my town. Fastest and my historical checks around the area.
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I feel sorry for the WiFi speed at 1 and 7 haha
Sometimes my 5G shows up as LTE In speedtest. Seems you have one of those too. It looks like 3 are capping out 5G at around 690, or that's all our phones can manage, I'm not sure. That's around my top speed too!

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I feel sorry for the WiFi speed at 1 and 7 haha
Sometimes my 5G shows up as LTE In speedtest. Seems you have one of those too. It looks like 3 are capping out 5G at around 690, or that's all our phones can manage, I'm not sure. That's around my top speed too!
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Still pretty fast

I got nearly a gigabit on the weekend. Telstra's 5G is pretty good.

manor7777 said:
Then the phone may not be allowed on the networks 5G, or it may not support that networks bands. Again, call your carrier and check, they will probably sort it for you
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Of course, you are wrong !
I got new 5g SIM, still nothing about 5g in Settings > Preffered network type. OnePlus 8 Pro does Not have 5g for my network, maybe to all my country neworks.
So, yeah, it's the phone! Not network!
I have talkt with OnePlus guys and they told me that will be solved in future updates.

null0seven said:
Of course, you are wrong !
I got new 5g SIM, still nothing about 5g in Settings > Preffered network type. OnePlus 8 Pro does Not have 5g for my network, maybe to all my country neworks.
So, yeah, it's the phone! Not network!
I have talkt with OnePlus guys and they told me that will be solved in future updates.
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That doesn't make me wrong, I'm not sure you understood. I'm saying it IS the phone. In the UK. Some networks will not allow a phone on 5G unless you buy it from them. The phone would work, but the network is not allowing that phone to use 5G. I assume its very similar in other countries, I know the US does this for some networks. The phone is compatible, but the network isn't pushing the settings to allow the phone to work, or the phone is failing to apply the correct carrier settings update to enable the 5G. TL;DR its the phone