Can`t boot - OnePlus 6T Questions & Answers

Hello,
i install the new OTA Update on the McLaren Version. After i install the twrp again and boot the Phone. Then i install Magisk. Now the phone start after few seconds come McLaren Screen but then the phone shot down, bootloader and start a menue whit "Reboot to fastboot" and "Reboot to recovery". What can i do to can use a rooting Phone again?
Thank you so much for help

WeWa2013 said:
Hello,
i install the new OTA Update on the McLaren Version. After i install the twrp again and boot the Phone. Then i install Magisk. Now the phone start after few seconds come McLaren Screen but then the phone shot down, bootloader and start a menue whit "Reboot to fastboot" and "Reboot to recovery". What can i do to can use a rooting Phone again?
Thank you so much for help
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I suggest getting the 9.10 boot image and flash it.
I also suggest the full 9.10 OTA and flashing that to both slots.

Where can i find a 9.10 boot image? I don`t have a Verizon. Thank you for help again.

Can anyone help please?

in TWRP recovery flash magisk zip maybe,again?
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shawek said:
in TWRP recovery flash magisk zip maybe,again?
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in TWRP i can´t read the internal storage. So i flash it from a USB OTG. But same. Don`t work.

if is possible to flash the official OTA Update File from here (https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/official-oxygenos-9-0-4-ota-oneplus-6t-t3860953) over the OTG Storage?

Nobody have Idea how can i use my Phone again?

Now i find a solution. i stoped after flash the twrp…….zip file (https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/how-to/guide-oneplus-6t-rooted-t3860830) and reboot the Phone. Now work again whit open bootloader but whitout root. Root i will try next Time again.
Thank you for the Users who help me.

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Need Help Stock Recovery Marshmallow ZE500KL

Hello, i accidentally flash twrp on to my phone (should just boot it). Now i dont have stock recovery anymore. i have tried flash my phone using stock recovery i got from here, here and here. but still no luck. anyone can help?
my phone firmware is latest marsmallow. Unlocked Bootloader and Rooted using miaulightouch method.
Thanks,
FRezING
FRezING said:
Hello, i accidentally flash twrp on to my phone (should just boot it). Now i dont have stock recovery anymore. i have tried flash my phone using stock recovery i got from here, here and here. but still no luck. anyone can help?
my phone firmware is latest marsmallow. Unlocked Bootloader and Rooted using miaulightouch method.
Thanks,
FRezING
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The links you give mostly for L.. I don't know if that will work on M though
Try to extract boot.img from your Asus zip and flash it, root might lost (?)
#sfmbe
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testeraphy said:
The links you give mostly for L.. I don't know if that will work on M though
Try to extract boot.img from your Asus zip and flash it, root might lost (?)
#sfmbe
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Thanks for reply, ya all of them for Lollipop because i have tried to flash boot.img from stock Marshmallow but still no recovery so i tried using Lollipop still no luck. Yesterday i tried back2stock method the rom flashed sucessfully but still no stock recovery.
Thanks,
FRezING
FRezING said:
Thanks for reply, ya all of them for Lollipop because i have tried to flash boot.img from stock Marshmallow but still no recovery so i tried using Lollipop still no luck. Yesterday i tried back2stock method the rom flashed sucessfully but still no stock recovery.
Thanks,
FRezING
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So, I'm curious about it, and flash twrp myself just awhile ago...
And got bootloop, really... wait, seriously?
I'm like
How did the other day I'm able to survive this? It boot normally,
After 1st successful boot, flashing root, (I don't remember but just say I'm booting twrp this time), xposed, aware that root lost after reboot, I did my backup here,
Then deciding to start from scratch, installing official Asus, boot normally, flash twrp, rooting,rebooting few times and somehow root intact, install xposed, root lost...
Restart again, install Asus official (I'm not restoring my backup, really, the only thing I know how to install stock is by stock recovery itself) , boot twrp, install root by system, reboot, root intact, xposed, root intact, surfing net, registering xda yesterday, just now replying to your thread, then you can read from above again...
Just few minutes ago, restore recovery from backup (still bootloop though), installing Asus again, and make this reply...
Sorry can't help you, even I'm confused right now
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testeraphy said:
So, I'm curious about it, and flash twrp myself just awhile ago...
And got bootloop, really... wait, seriously?
I'm like
How did the other day I'm able to survive this? It boot normally,
After 1st successful boot, flashing root, (I don't remember but just say I'm booting twrp this time), xposed, aware that root lost after reboot, I did my backup here,
Then deciding to start from scratch, installing official Asus, boot normally, flash twrp, rooting,rebooting few times and somehow root intact, install xposed, root lost...
Restart again, install Asus official (I'm not restoring my backup, really, the only thing I know how to install stock is by stock recovery itself) , boot twrp, install root by system, reboot, root intact, xposed, root intact, surfing net, registering xda yesterday, just now replying to your thread, then you can read from above again...
Just few minutes ago, restore recovery from backup (still bootloop though), installing Asus again, and make this reply...
Sorry can't help you, even I'm confused right now
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It's ok thanks for your help tho, my phone still usable im just curious why the stock recovery still missing after flashing it via fastboot. u can use back2stock method if bootloop that method really handy no need to wipe anything i use it before when bootloop and my data still there.
FRezING said:
It's ok thanks for your help tho, my phone still usable im just curious why the stock recovery still missing after flashing it via fastboot. u can use back2stock method if bootloop that method really handy no need to wipe anything i use it before when bootloop and my data still there.
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My phone already recovered by the time I'm replied above, and somehow.. systemless work.. duh
back to topic
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testeraphy said:
My phone already recovered by the time I'm replied above, and somehow.. systemless work.. duh
back to topic
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How did u fix dat issue? no recovery here and on booting logo it shows invalid boot.img
Plz help
arunperul said:
How did u fix dat issue? no recovery here and on booting logo it shows invalid boot.img
Plz help
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Sorry, which part?
If about how I got my recovery back then, I don't really understand, let's assume I have my backup that time. now I have my backup, for real.
From what I understand, invalid boot mean either you got broken boot images or locked bootloader, so which one is familiar to you?
Anyway, you can try to flash back stock boot (grab from asus zip) and stock recovery (if you have them, or find on this forum?).
I don't know if locked bootloader can flash boot/recovery, never tried it myself. So, good luck!
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[Unlock] Zenfone2 official Android 6.0 Unlock

Two-Click Unlock for Zenfone 2 official Android 6.0
original post in Taiwan Asus Zentalk by @shakalaca
**do it at your risk**
1.Your PC must be adb environment ready.
2.You should know how to get into stock bootloader.( press Power and Volume up together)
files needed:
1. Download unlock.bat and restore.bat from here.
2. Recomended TWRP for verification.(repacked)
steps:
1.Copy unlock.bat and restore.bat on to your PC.
2.Plug your device in PC, click unlock.bat. The program will enter bootloader mode, reboot and then unlock.
3.After it run through unlock, the device will indicate it will reboot in 5 second. **important** PRESS VOLUME UP at the moment to enter bootloader.
4. If you miss step 3, the device will stuck in Asus logo. Don't worry. Just press POWER and VOLUME UP to enter bootloader.
5.When the device is in bootloader, click restore.bat Wait for the reboot and you are done unlock.
6.To verify unlock status, flash the recommended TWRP.
Good luck and all credits to @shakalaca
Is it the same as the unofficial method for bootloader unlock? also is there a way to relock bootloader like flashing it again over MM Beta?
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Flynhx said:
Is it the same as the unofficial method for bootloader unlock? also is there a way to relock bootloader like flashing it again over MM Beta?
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Different by the looks , the date gives it away and not a temp twrp-- although i am going to find out in about 10 mins --lets hope this works :highfive:
Not working for me
says flashing droidboot .184
anyone got this to work ?
no recovery after trying this - got stock recovery back from here ok
mega:///#F!k4MHiAgL!dVuOKeH3eokcwPSNI79ffw!ok8SQKII
timbernot said:
Different by the looks , the date gives it away and not a temp twrp-- although i am going to find out in about 10 mins --lets hope this works :highfive:
Not working for me
says flashing droidboot .184
anyone got this to work ?
no recovery after trying this - got stock recovery back from here ok
mega:///#F!k4MHiAgL!dVuOKeH3eokcwPSNI79ffw!ok8SQKII
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According to @shakalaca, the restore process get back to 6.0 ifwi. After the unlock, the droidboot stay at .184 alright.
What is the status of your device before unlock, rooted or unrooted? Can you flash the twrp provided by him ?
samcjtsai said:
According to @shakalaca, the restore process get back to 6.0 ifwi. After the unlock, the droidboot stay at .184 alright.
What is the status of your device before unlock, rooted or unrooted? Can you flash the twrp provided by him ?
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my device doesnt get to this part > 3.After it run through unlock, the device will indicate it will reboot in 5 second. **important** PRESS VOLUME UP
but stays on > press any key to finish...... which then closes the window
I flash twrp,says ok but reboots back to bootloader after restarting recovery.
flashed back stock recovery and factory reset for another attempt...lets see
Works good to me. Miss that step where I supposed to pressed vol up button and phone stuck on white splash screen. Force off and then go to bootloader, then execute restore.bat and done. After that root and exposed and then I mess up some another stuff so need to flash 6.0.1 MOFD_SDUPDATE manually from stock recovery. Everything pass smoothly but root and exposed framework disappeared obviously. Root and exposed again no problems
cannot flash custom roms???
Hi everyone,
I successfully unlocked my bootloader from MM beta, I successfully flashed the recommended twrp recovery, I successfully flashed rom and gapps but when I reboot the phone goes back to twrp recovery. Anyone else facing the same issue? Or is it impossible to flash custom roms?
Yousvel said:
Hi everyone,
I successfully unlocked my bootloader from MM beta, I successfully flashed the recommended twrp recovery, I successfully flashed rom and gapps but when I reboot the phone goes back to twrp recovery. Anyone else facing the same issue? Or is it impossible to flash custom roms?
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ATM this unlock can backup/restore stock rom in recommended twrp, but can't flash CM. Seems its boot.img need to be repacked.
Yousvel said:
Hi everyone,
I successfully unlocked my bootloader from MM beta, I successfully flashed the recommended twrp recovery, I successfully flashed rom and gapps but when I reboot the phone goes back to twrp recovery. Anyone else facing the same issue? Or is it impossible to flash custom roms?
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Same problem here
samcjtsai said:
ATM this unlock can backup/restore stock rom in recommended twrp, but can't flash CM. Seems its boot.img need to be repacked.
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how can i flash a stock 5.0 rom from the recommended twrp? I tried to do that but it doesn't work. Do I have to flash a stock 6.0.1 beta rom?
It worked perfectly!Thanx a mill!
Can't flash TWRP although the splash screen became white after unlock.bat -> unlocked
After restore.bat the splash screen went black as usual. Then I flash the recommended TWRP. But when I choose recovery mode in fastboot, it reboot to fastboot. When I adb reboot recovery in Android OS, it reboot to stock recovery. Can anyone help me to solve this problem?
I'm running .69 MM beta, I replaced the .54 fastboot image in the package with .69 one. Does this effect the unlock state?
timbernot said:
Different by the looks , the date gives it away and not a temp twrp-- although i am going to find out in about 10 mins --lets hope this works :highfive:
Not working for me
says flashing droidboot .184
anyone got this to work ?
no recovery after trying this - got stock recovery back from here ok
mega:///#F!k4MHiAgL!dVuOKeH3eokcwPSNI79ffw!ok8SQKII
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Edit Unlock.bat, find "sleep 3" in the line 24 and change it to "sleep 25" to increase the waiting time to detect back the fastboot after your phone reboots...
This fixed me the issue.... try it...
can i flash supersu to become root after unlock with this method?
ponnuvelpandian said:
Edit Unlock.bat, find "sleep 3" in the line 24 and change it to "sleep 25" to increase the waiting time to detect back the fastboot after your phone reboots...
This fixed me the issue.... try it...
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Thanks :good: , i`ll keep that in mind when the time comes back on 5 atm
kamyk70 said:
Works good to me. Miss that step where I supposed to pressed vol up button and phone stuck on white splash screen. Force off and then go to bootloader, then execute restore.bat and done. After that root and exposed and then I mess up some another stuff so need to flash 6.0.1 MOFD_SDUPDATE manually from stock recovery. Everything pass smoothly but root and exposed framework disappeared obviously. Root and exposed again no problems
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How you root your MM beta?, please tell me, i wanna root mine too
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Bring twrp zip android 6 please.
Can anyone backup with TWRP and upload?
Factory reset, backup with TWRP, and upload[emoji6]
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KarloHD said:
Bring twrp zip android 6 please.
Can anyone backup with TWRP and upload?
Factory reset, backup with TWRP, and upload[emoji6]
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Are you going to post this in EVERY tread?
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Now, if we can unlock stock 6.0, can anyone confirm me if we can directly flash custom roms without downgrading to 5.0
after running restore it worked, however when running unlock.bat, I get permission denied and the device goes tinto bootloader bootloop, and I had the device rooted and bootunlocked already in lollipop, I wonder why that happens?

P9 lite bootloop please help

I tried to install Xposed but something went wrong and my P9 lite now continues bootlooping
how can i restore it?
from eRecovery it doesn't work...
eRecovery?
You need TWRP to install Xposed so... I assume you do have TWRP?
Then just restore your backup. I do hope you have a backup!
If not, make a wipe and flash a stock firmware. You can find links here in the forum.
Always make a backup of your working system when you flash stuff.
A bootloop from installing Xposed is not normal! I assume you have flashed a wrong version.
Keep in mind that it takes a long time for the first boot after installing Xposed so it might not even be a bootloop.
Schlengge said:
eRecovery?
You need TWRP to install Xposed so... I assume you do have TWRP?
Then just restore your backup. I do hope you have a backup!
If not, make a wipe and flash a stock firmware. You can find links here in the forum.
Always make a backup of your working system when you flash stuff.
A bootloop from installing Xposed is not normal! I assume you have flashed a wrong version.
Keep in mind that it takes a long time for the first boot after installing Xposed so it might not even be a bootloop.
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can you link me the stock recovery? for VNS-L31
how i have to flash it now?
You can find links to the newest firmwares here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/development/stock-firmware-links-t3468245
The links provide you with a flashable zip file that can be flashed through TWRP.
Schlengge said:
You can find links to the newest firmwares here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/huawei-p9lite/development/stock-firmware-links-t3468245
The links provide you with a flashable zip file that can be flashed through TWRP.
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i can't access to twrp mode... can i install it via erecovery?
diorenzo said:
i can't access to twrp mode... can i install it via erecovery?
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No. You need to find a way to install TWRP first.
But how did you flash Xposed when you don't have TWRP?
Or how did you lose TWRP access? I can't really see how you do not have TWRP...
i have twrp but sometimes it access to it and sometimes no
diorenzo said:
i have twrp but sometimes it access to it and sometimes no
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download xposed uninstall, boot to twrp with power off+volume up when the device is shut down... and then flash the xposed uninstaller...i got that bootloop too and fixed it in 2 min
snapdesign said:
download xposed uninstall, boot to twrp with power off+volume up when the device is shut down... and then flash the xposed uninstaller...i got that bootloop too and fixed it in 2 min
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i can't access to twrp mode, befor I could, now i don't know what to do
is there a method using adb?
diorenzo said:
i can't access to twrp mode, befor I could, now i don't know what to do
is there a method using adb?
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you can do it with fastboot... flash the twrp img
i haven't access to my twrp
i haven't access to my twrp anymore
when it's shut down i pressed power off + v up + v down and iy says installing update but at 5% it stops
Try to reinstall TWRP using fastboot.
There are guides in here how to do that. I'm on mobile right now so can't really search the links.
But you installed TWRP before so just try to do it again but do it in fastboot mode. You should be able to still access this.
If you want to return to stock download a full firmware and extract it using huawei firmware extractor or similar. Then you can use fastboot to flash boot.img, cust.img, system.img and both of the recoveries. This only applies if you have the boot loader unlocked.
If it stops at 5% the oeminfo may not match the firmware you are trying to flash (at least it was my problem). You can also flash the correct oeminfo partition through fastboot (oeminfo files are available just search).
Edit: And I agree with what Schlengge as posted. You should still be able to flash twrp trough the fastboot mode.
Hello.
I'm stuck on here since 2 PM of yesterday and I can't figure out the mess I made.
So today I tryed on removing brand Vodafone (italian), and i did make it but i ended up with C900 and couldn't log with google, i tried installing oeminfos but i got the one from P9 (not lite) and it bricked my phone and it was stuck at booting sayng my datas were unable to load and suggests me a factory reset (lowleve) which the system made from itself.
Now I flashed the userdata and it worked, now the phone boot but Model number says hi625 and serial lacks of L31.. i mean it is VNS-C432B130..
Someone knows hot to help me?
i think its the same of balong version in p8 lite.
Thanks Everybody.
fiumef said:
Hello.
I'm stuck on here since 2 PM of yesterday and I can't figure out the mess I made.
So today I tryed on removing brand Vodafone (italian), and i did make it but i ended up with C900 and couldn't log with google, i tried installing oeminfos but i got the one from P9 (not lite) and it bricked my phone and it was stuck at booting sayng my datas were unable to load and suggests me a factory reset (lowleve) which the system made from itself.
Now I flashed the userdata and it worked, now the phone boot but Model number says hi625 and serial lacks of L31.. i mean it is VNS-C432B130..
Someone knows hot to help me?
i think its the same of balong version in p8 lite.
Thanks Everybody.
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If you have unlocked the bootloader I would suggest flashing all the important images manually using fastboot (cust + cache + system + boot + recovery + recovery2). Also before rebooting flash the oeminfo (the C432 p9 lite one, either dual or single sim) file using fastboot (do NOT flash a zip file trough fastboot).
After doing this try to flash using erecovery combo (+ and - button combo) and do a factory reset. In my case that fixed it.
Edit: Since you want to debrand I would suggest using the VNS-L31C432B151 firmware.
flash the twrp img with fastboot, then sideload the xposed uninstall zip

ZTE Axon 7 A2017G Europe model stuck on ZTE boot screen

Hello, as the title states, I have somehow managed to get my ZTE Axon 7 on the boot screen while trying to flash twrp recovery.
I am thinking to let the battery drain and reboot it, but I don't know if this will solve my problem.
Any help from someone with better knowledge on this is greatly appreciated as I am not that experienced in this.
Thank you!
andreicristian96 said:
Hello, as the title states, I have somehow managed to get my ZTE Axon 7 on the boot screen while trying to flash twrp recovery.
I am thinking to let the battery drain and reboot it, but I don't know if this will solve my problem.
Any help from someone with better knowledge on this is greatly appreciated as I am not that experienced in this.
Thank you!
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why don't you just hold the power button?
If you can enter TWRP after this (power + vol up) then you'll be able to fix everything. If you can't, your other options are EDL (all 3 buttons), fastboot (unlikely on a G, but you need to get adb for that), or ADB, to get into EDL
In the same boat actually, unlocked the bootloader using the EDL Tool, then setup phone again from scratch fine, downloaded apps etc, then installed 3.2.1.0 from TWRP website, but now stuck on zte screen. Can boot into twrp though.
trevor68 said:
In the same boat actually, unlocked the bootloader using the EDL Tool, then setup phone again from scratch fine, downloaded apps etc, then installed 3.2.1.0 from TWRP website, but now stuck on zte screen. Can boot into twrp though.
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well in your case you can try installing another TWRP version from TWRP itself (install image).
If that doesn't work I'd say format data and install Magisk right after that, maybe it's something related to data
Choose an username... said:
well in your case you can try installing another TWRP version from TWRP itself (install image).
If that doesn't work I'd say format data and install Magisk right after that, maybe it's something related to data
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I tried to format data but it fails with an error message. I also tried another version of twrp linked here with the same result. I think your right and I will have to flash magisk or SuperSU after flashing twrp, which is a shame, as I wasn't actually intending to root it, I simply wanted to have unlocked BL and TWRP installed.
I have a working phone again by doing full EDL restore, so currently Unlocked BL with stock recovery.
I installed SuperSU using trwp and it all works now.

twrp gets erased

Hello guys i need an urgent help yesterday i unlocked bootloader on my g5 plus which was running Android 8.1 everything was ok i installed twrp latest version it got installed but when i reeboted to system the twrp gets erased idk how whenever i try to boot into recovery it shows no command sign and then after pressing power button it boots into stock recovery ! Guys can anyone mention me a solution thread or just explain me what to do ! Thank you
Reinstall it, and then boot right into recovery. If I remember, there is a pop up when you go to close twrp and boot to system to keep twrp, or some such nag.
As far as i remember there were 2 files. dm-verity and forced encryption. I never needed them but if you stay on stock you will have to flash those so that twrp doesn't get replaced by stock recovery everytime you reboot. Check the how to root forum you should find more information there about this.
Or you can just root it and twrp won't erase with stock recover.
naikxda18 said:
Hello guys i need an urgent help yesterday i unlocked bootloader on my g5 plus which was running Android 8.1 everything was ok i installed twrp latest version it got installed but when i reeboted to system the twrp gets erased idk how whenever i try to boot into recovery it shows no command sign and then after pressing power button it boots into stock recovery ! Guys can anyone mention me a solution thread or just explain me what to do ! Thank you
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Do this:
[email protected] said:
Reinstall it, and then boot right into recovery. If I remember, there is a pop up when you go to close twrp and boot to system to keep twrp, or some such nag.
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and flash Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt_02.04.2019:
https://yadi.sk/d/HLr5vjnkA8gaqw
Wolfcity said:
Do this:
and flash Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt_02.04.2019:
https://yadi.sk/d/HLr5vjnkA8gaqw
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hmmm, that's strange. I've never flashed that and never lost twrp on any of the phones I've unlocked. Is that new with unlocking Oreo?
Wolfcity said:
Do this:
and flash Disable_Dm-Verity_ForceEncrypt_02.04.2019:
https://yadi.sk/d/HLr5vjnkA8gaqw
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Thanks but i flashed RR pie soon after flashing twrp now its working fine
[email protected] said:
hmmm, that's strange. I've never flashed that and never lost twrp on any of the phones I've unlocked. Is that new with unlocking Oreo?
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I didn't either, as you wrote if you boot into TWRP before going to system it should stick or also if you flash magisk before booting the OS.
But there are some devices/ROMs that need the no verity flag to be disabled so flashing this file might help if TWRP won't stick (even when DM verity looks for a tampered system partition in the first case). There are also some terminal commands to do that but I forgot them at the moment.
I mainly used the zip to keep my /data partition decrypted after reformating it. When flashing Nougat magisk did the job for me but when I upgraded to Oreo /data was reencrypted again after flashing magisk and booting into system.
The above zip prevents /data from being encrypted again and may make sure that TWRP sticks.
ahhh, ok I see. Thanks for the explanation.

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