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TGA_Gunnman created a one click root that new users will want to use, said thread is a sticky in Captivate Development. If you still want to use the old method (and install ADB) please use this one.
I followed my own guide! This works perfectly if you read everything and follow the instructions.
Also: once you are rooted, be EXTREMELY careful! Half of the new threads are people who have screwed up their phones by deleting this or corrupting that. Please, for the sanity of all of the devs and Android veterans, make backups and just be all around careful. Almost all problems that anyone has had are repareable AND PREVENTABLE with a little reading and care. Just to clarify, rooting does not automatically enable sideloading. Please follow http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=738376 to enable sideloading.
Follow these steps exactly and there will be no risk of bricking your Captivate, the worst that may happen is the phone rejecting the update.zip.
HOWEVER:
I take no responsibility if ANYTHING at all happens to your device that you don't like. Don't come crying to me if your brand new phone breaks in any way. Your warranty is also void, but you could have figured that out for yourself.
Now that that's over with, lets get to the fun bit. If you are on Windows, you can follow this procedure, or for TGA_Gunnman's one click root program (only on Windows), you can go ahead and skip to the bottom.
1) You may need Samsung drivers if you are on a PC, which you can learn about here: ADB Drivers at the Unlockr
For 64 bit Windows, you'll need these drivers: http://zedomax.com/blog/2010/07/14/s...iver-download/
Don't proceed until your phone is fully installed on Windows with the drivers!
2) Download the attached zip (at the bottom of the post) and rename it to update or update.zip if you are on a Mac. (If you are on a Mac, DO NOT USE SAFARI to download the file, it automatically unzips any zip file. Use Google Chrome or firefox instead.) Scroll down the notification bar and click "mount" to allow your computer to read the internal memory. Put the file on the INTERNAL SD card of the Captivate, which won't be tough to figure out if you don't have an SD card in the phone.
3) EDIT--There is an easier way to get to recovery, but do this step anyway. Turn the phone off, then hold power, volume up and volume down. If you still want the android SDK (which will be very useful throughout your rooted experiences) follow the old procedure:
This step requires the Android SDK, and Android Debugging enabled. You can get the SDK here: Android SDK. Just download the zip, extract it to something like C:\Android. You won't need the Java dev pack or anything.
You can enable Android Debugging like this: From the homescreen, press Menu, then click Settings. Navigate to Applications>Development and check USB Debugging. Now, hook the phone to the computer. Next,
On a PC, click start>run>"cmd" (in the text box) or on a Mac, spotlight "Terminal". Linux users, you know what to do.
The command you will use is in the tools folder of wherever you extracted it to (IE: C:\android\tools), so be sure your working directory of command prompt is in that tools location!
Finally, type:
Code:
adb reboot recovery
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4) Once the phone is booted into recovery, use the volume keys on the phone to scroll to "Reinstall packages." Use power to select what you have highlighted.
5) Give yourself a pat on the back. You are now rooted. You should see a Superuser application now.
MD5 Sum: 1eb65923281c113e8751a7d8a6faff43
Can we please have more detailed instructions? I don't understand the part where it says "type in the terminal"
I am very new to android as this will be my first Android phone.
Also, after rooting will we be able to install 3rd party applications? Or do we have to do anything else to bypass ATT's restrictions?
adb terminal is software you need to install on your PC , will probably need samsung drivers also , guide is indeed not noob friendly. This will help you get needed bits including ADB
Probably None of us have captivate , so writing a guide is a bit troublesome
Ditto, a guide to the adb terminal please! I will acquire this phone, this Sunday.
Actually, you'd have to install a custom ROM for that. MoDaCo should be coming out with them pretty soon, and so will XDA. It won't be too long. BTW, once you have ADB installed on your computer, you can sideload apps all you want. The command is
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adb install /directory/of/app/on/computer
point me to some functioning samsung drivers and I can do this!
If you cant get it to work on windows, try a ubuntu live cd. All you need to do is go to ubuntu and burn a disc and reboot.
Are there no Windows 64 bit drivers?
Edit- I found some that work. I think. Haven't tried it (yet).
http://zedomax.com/blog/2010/07/14/...ic-4g-and-fascinate-galaxy-s-driver-download/
Edit 2- Just did the root. Seems to have worked (no errors) but how do I know if it did? How do I delete say, ATT Maps?
Thanks for this. I am new to smartphones and plan on purchasing the Samsung Galaxy-S, but don't want to mess it up. I am new to editing the OS of any smartphone, but I think if I have a tutorial I will be fine
For Mac and Linux you put a ./ in front of the adb correct? (./adb install...)
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For Mac and Linux you put a ./ in front of the adb correct? (./adb install...)
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if you are in the directory above yes. the ./ just saves you from writing out the full path
lets say adb is in "/home/user/Downloads/sdk/tools"
you could type out "/home/user/Downloads/sdk/tools/adb command" regardless of where your terminal window was focused
or if you were currently in the directory "/home/user/Downloads/sdk/tools"
you could use the shortcut "./adb command"
OP I'd change your post based on my experiences... Here's a little more detail and I've rearranged it (you need the drivers before running these commands, for example).
blackjackboy said:
Please let me know if this rooting method works as I have no Captivate to test on. I'm not taking any credit for any of these files, LeshaK made the original file to root the European Galaxy S, Justadude modified it for the T-Mobile Vibrant and chaoscentral edited the file for use on the Captivate.
Follow these steps exactly and there will be no risk of bricking your Captivate, the worst that may happen is the phone rejecting the update.zip.
HOWEVER:
I take no responsibility if ANYTHING at all happens to your device that you don't like. Don't come crying to me if your brand new phone breaks in any way.
Now that that's over with, lets get to the fun bit.
1) You may need Samsung drivers if you are on a PC, which you can learn about here: ADB Drivers at the Unlockr
For 64 bit Windows, you'll need these drivers: http://zedomax.com/blog/2010/07/14/...ic-4g-and-fascinate-galaxy-s-driver-download/
Don't proceed until your phone is fully installed on Windows with the drivers!
2) Download the attached zip (at the bottom of the post) and rename it to update or update.zip if you are on a Mac. Scroll down the notification bar and click "mount" to allow your computer to read the internal memory. Put the file on the INTERNAL SD card of the Captivate, which won't be tough to figure out if you don't have an SD card in the phone.
3) This step requires the Android SDK, and Android Debugging enabled. You can get the SDK here: Android SDK. Just download the zip, extract it to something like C:\Android. You won't need the Java dev pack or anything.
You can enable Android Debugging like this: From the homescreen, press Menu, then click Settings. Navigate to Applications>Development and check USB Debugging. Now, hook the phone to the computer. Next,
On a PC, click start>run>"cmd" (in the text box) or on a Mac, spotlight "Terminal". Linux users, you know what to do.
The command you will use is in the tools folder of wherever you extracted it to (IE: C:\android\tools), so be sure your working directory of command prompt is in that tools location!
Finally, type:
Code:
adb reboot recovery
4) Once the phone is booted into recovery, use the volume keys on the phone to scroll to "Reinstall packages." Use power to select what you have highlighted.
5) Give yourself a pat on the back. You are now rooted. You should see a Superuser application now.
Thank you to LeshaK, Justadude, and chaoscentral. Once again, I didn't discover how to root, that credit goes to LeshaK, bringing it over to the USA was Justadude's doing, and chaoscentral edited the file for use on our Captivates.
MD5 Sum: 1eb65923281c113e8751a7d8a6faff43
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Ubuntu 10.04 - adb
Any step by step instructions just to get adb running enough on 10.04 to root and side load software? I'm getting command not found when I try to run adb, even after downloading packages.
Hi,
Did this thread worked well to Root the Captivate or anyother suggested link? I'll appreciate any help.
Thanks
rerooting captivate
This worked perfectly on my Captivate. I now have the SuperUser Permission on my application screen. Now I can REALLY screw up my Captivate!!!
Thanks for the answer & More Queston
cellgeek said:
This worked perfectly on my Captivate. I now have the SuperUser Permission on my application screen. Now I can REALLY screw up my Captivate!!!
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Hi,
Thanks for your helpful answer. As I'm getting my Cativate tomorrow, can you please just answer yes or no to each of my questions as follow ?
After Rooting will I be able to:
1- download any 3rd party Android application?
2- install any "Samsung Galaxy S" ROM on my Captivate?
3- Recieve any "OTA" update as a "Galaxy S" phone?
Thanks again
Muhamadabdelaall said:
Hi,
Thanks for your helpful answer. As I'm getting my Cativate tomorrow, can you please just answer yes or no to each of my questions as follow ?
After Rooting will I be able to:
1- download any 3rd party Android application?
2- install any "Samsung Galaxy S" ROM on my Captivate?
3- Recieve any "OTA" update as a "Galaxy S" phone?
Thanks again
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1. No. You will have to use adb or the database modification method (which having root access makes possible). Both are described in detail elsewhere in this forum.
2. Rooting means simply getting superuser permissions. Loading a ROM has to do with the bootloader and recovery partition. Unmodded Galaxy S ROMs probably will not work on the Captivate, but be patient.
3. Not sure what you're asking. You will still get any Captivate OTA updates as if you hadn't rooted, but you won't get, for example, the rumored Korean FroYo Galaxy S update OTA when it drops. You'd have to wait for the Captivate OTA FroYo upgrade (or there may be a ROM or patch you can flash by then).
Rooting is basically just allowing programs to run as the superuser account. Many programs like Metamorph, some screenshot apps and some wifi tethering apps require more permission than Android normally gives an app.
Thanks Drachen
Drachen said:
1. No. You will have to use adb or the database modification method (which having root access makes possible). Both are described in detail elsewhere in this forum.
2. Rooting means simply getting superuser permissions. Loading a ROM has to do with the bootloader and recovery partition. Unmodded Galaxy S ROMs probably will not work on the Captivate, but be patient.
3. Not sure what you're asking. You will still get any Captivate OTA updates as if you hadn't rooted, but you won't get, for example, the rumored Korean FroYo Galaxy S update OTA when it drops. You'd have to wait for the Captivate OTA FroYo upgrade (or there may be a ROM or patch you can flash by then).
Rooting is basically just allowing programs to run as the superuser account. Many programs like Metamorph, some screenshot apps and some wifi tethering apps require more permission than Android normally gives an app.
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Thanks alot for taking all this time & energy to reply to me! WOW, it seems like everytime I wanna step up one, I go back 10 steps. All I need is to use my Captivate for installing a Stock Rom of "Galaxy S" & be able to get rid of any "AT&T" restrictions for anything on this phone, what should I do please?
Thanks
Muhamadabdelaall said:
Thanks alot for taking all this time & energy to reply to me! WOW, it seems like everytime I wanna step up one, I go back 10 steps. All I need is to use my Captivate for installing a Stock Rom of "Galaxy S" & be able to get rid of any "AT&T" restrictions for anything on this phone, what should I do please?
Thanks
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The ATT stuff doesn't actually run so they aren't a big deal at this point. I also don't see Amazon MP3 background stuff like some Android devices have, so... There's really not a huge case for rooting yet.
That said, when Custom ROMs for this come out I'll still be getting one.
For those of you having a hard time installing ADB Shell, try this video. It worked for me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeWH6Bj1DYw&feature=related
Brand new phone...can't believe i did something wrong only a few hours into it!?
To cut to it, i am not able to run anything on my PC to my Atrix bc the phone is not visible to it via usb sync. It DOES still see it if i needed to transfer files etc, just not so i can flash anything to it off the PC.
And not sure if it has anything to do with it, but it seems like i ran into my problem when i inserted and formatted my SD card. Here's what i did (and i hadn't gotten very far):
I rooted with SuperOneClick, then I installed DG's Adeo ROM and the update.
I was trying to install Gingerbread and was just putting busybox installer on my phone when i went to put my SD card in there from my old phone. i formatted the card and it seemed after i did that i lost connectivity via the USB. It could still access the phone, but everytime i run ATRIX4G_MobileTV_GBTheme.bat it hangs at "daemon started succesfully" . It also hangs if i try to run SuperOneClick again on "waiting for device."
I wasn't sure what to do to get it running right again so i did a full wipe from the settings. Still can't connect
Any help be greatly appreciated. i've literally had this phone 4 hours so sorry if i'm missing something dumb
Try running aRoot (search this forum) and then trying all that.
thanks for that suggestion, gonna try that....just as soon as the damn search function comes back!!
oh the waiting...i am not going to be able to sleep tonight till i get somethin happenin
No need to search, it's only hanging about 3-5 posts down in this section. It's also here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=981866
Ran aRoot - seems to run through the steps without a failure, but it went VERY fast, like 3 seconds...and it hangs when i try to "unroot"
so, all in all it seems like its still not recognizing the phone as before when connected through USB
Dillsnik said:
Ran aRoot - seems to run through the steps without a failure, but it went VERY fast, like 3 seconds...and it hangs when i try to "unroot"
so, all in all it seems like its still not recognizing the phone as before when connected through USB
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Do you have Root Explorer? If so, look in /sbin and see if you have 'adbd' showing
OR
Have you tried installing the ADB interface from the Android SDK? See if your device can be seen? If not see THIS ARTICLE (external link to addictivetips) on setting up ADB.
No, I don't have Root Explorer
I installed SDK and ADB and it does show up, but only when the USB setting is set to "Motorola phone portal." None of the other options it shows up in device mgr.
I am kinda stabbing in the dark at this point...thinking maybe it's a driver issue?
maybe if i uninstall all the drivers and start from scratch i might have some luck? i actually did unistall all the drivers thru device mgr, but they just came right back next time i connected...so maybe i need to delete them entirely?
any suggestions to trouble shoot this greatly appreciated...i know it's probably small potatos but i'm really jammed up here...
Moved as not android development
Have you tried installing the latest drivers again directly from the Motorola Mobility site? You can install Media Link or just the drivers with MotoHelper. For some reason my phone installed all of this, but there were updates available immediately.
The ADB interface should function when USB is set to None.
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Yeah i actually did a system restore and reinstalled all the drivers etc.
I can see the phone now in the device mgr under ADB interface when connection is set to "None" for USB
But still hangs when trying to flash basically anything
Do you have or can you pick up a Terminal Emulator in the Market and list the files in /sbin? See if you have adbd...
From $
su
cd /sbin
ls (Lower case L, not 1)
Look through list of files for adbd.
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OK, No it's not in there
See this post here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11738847&postcount=1 and the cooresponding thread for replacing adbd. There's another post in the thread about changing the permissions so that it doesn't get lost again with a reboot. You might have to purchase Root Explorer since you cannot push anything via ADB over USB.
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This seems to be the type of problem i am having, very much thanks for directing me to that other thread.
At this point i have copied ADB to the sbin folder but nothing flashing yet...need to read through that thread more and play with it.
What a PITA so far but thanks so much for the help!
No problem. I hope it works out. If you don't mind, post up and let me know if you get it going and what it took so we can try to help others.
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Hi, guy. I have been spending all my free time trying to root my g2. But i can't even start rooting. Cause i can't set up adb on computer. I am doing everything right, watched tens of youtube instructions but nothing can help. I have extracted android-sdk_r12-windows.zip file on my local C disk. connected the phone launched cmd.exe but it is not showing the serial number as it was supposed to. I am new to android world switched from iOS world. I am already ready to give up with rooting. can anybody have any instructions how to downgrade to froyo and root the G2. Any help will be appreciated.
No need to use full ADB afaik. There are mini-adb programs that don't require a full SDK install.
You can also accomplish things using the terminal emulator app on the phone instead of the cmd prompt on the computer.
Make sure you have enabled usb debugging on the phone.
-Nipqer
sturabekov said:
Hi, guy. I have been spending all my free time trying to root my g2. But i can't even start rooting. Cause i can't set up adb on computer. I am doing everything right, watched tens of youtube instructions but nothing can help. I have extracted android-sdk_r12-windows.zip file on my local C disk. connected the phone launched cmd.exe but it is not showing the serial number as it was supposed to. I am new to android world switched from iOS world. I am already ready to give up with rooting. can anybody have any instructions how to downgrade to froyo and root the G2. Any help will be appreciated.
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Did you update your PATH variable? Have you installed the proper drivers? There is a great thread here on how to set up ADB. It's a great resource if you haven't read it already.
Where can i find drivers for G2? i could not find one neither on htc support website nor t-mobile site. and i also updated PATH variables.
sturabekov said:
Where can i find drivers for G2? i could not find one neither on htc support website nor t-mobile site. and i also updated PATH variables.
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I don't know where to find JUst the drivers, but I know if you install HTC Sync, the software used to sync phone contents with HTC Sense ROMs, it will also install the drivers you need along with it.
All the links on the official HTC site are broken, but I found the Sync software here:
http://htc-sync.software.informer.com/
After the initial setup, I found that I could uninstall the actual Sync software and leave the drivers with no problems.
The links are not broken. They are designed for european version of te website. That's why we can't find them
sturabekov said:
The links are not broken. They are designed for european version of te website. That's why we can't find them
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I don't think so... I had no problem using them myself a few months ago.
I just googled htc sync and went to thee link for htc's site boom done! Did it list week. Ps I rooted following the sticky for rooting using gfree no adb. It was a cinch.
killj0y said:
I just googled htc sync and went to thee link for htc's site boom done! Did it list week. Ps I rooted following the sticky for rooting using gfree no adb. It was a cinch.
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I had the same experience a few months ago, but last night I could not track down the official Sync software from HTC's website. If you don't mind, could you link me to where you found it? Just to ease my curiosity... this is bugging me.
Edit: Nevermind - found it.
Made hard on purpose. The newer the g2 the harder it is. The path and making sure giving permission (esp on w7 cpus) is imp.
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Hi everyone, i am trying to root my kindle fire device , but the process is not working.
Here is what i've done:
1. Installed Drivers from "install_drivers.bat" file from KFU
2. Manually Installed Drivers
Still cannot make ADB Status to go "ONLINE".
The way i can make it "ONLINE" is by executing the "run.bat" file as administrator, but, doing this, leads me to error "cannot find tools/wget.exe". Ofc, because running with administrator privileges forces it to run from system32 folder.
I've already tried to run from the Command Prompt, even running the command prompt as administrator aswell.
Any idea of how to solve it ?
My Kindle is 6.3 Version. I bought it in February.
I used the KFU 0.9.5 version.
I also tried to install drivers manually, from a difference source ( a youtube video tutorial of how to root 6.2 version ), but, the device manager says the drivers are already up to date.
My device manager shows a "Android device" at the top of the list, but no "Kindle" or "Amazon Kindle" device in the whole list.
What am i doing wrong ?
Please, if you can't solve it, at least, bump this thread.
Thanks !
Try this... delete your drivers and configure and reinstall your own from the AndroidSDK
http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/12/13/how-to-install-kindle-fire-adb-usb-driver/
Then use command prompt to issue the appropriate adb and fastboot commands to manually root your device using the method posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24124828
If, after you reinstalled your drivers, you can't get adb to connect through command prompt, you may need to make sure that your user account has the appropriate permissions to perform such tasks (although I can't imagine why you wouldn't anyway).
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soupmagnet said:
Try this... delete your drivers and configure and reinstall your own from the AndroidSDK
http://www.jayceooi.com/2011/12/13/how-to-install-kindle-fire-adb-usb-driver/
Then use command prompt to issue the appropriate adb and fastboot commands to manually root your device using the method posted here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=24124828
If, after you reinstalled your drivers, you can't get adb to connect through command prompt, you may need to make sure that your user account has the appropriate permissions to perform such tasks (although I can't imagine why you wouldn't anyway).
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I've seen you mention the Android SDK a number of times as it relates to driver installation. This is not meant as an argumentative post, but the SDK is entirely unnecessary if the user won't be "developing" software and just wants to install the drivers.
The SDK method is a lot of unneeded bulk to install the Java JDK, so you can install the Android SDK installer to get at the USB driver extras. Then the user has to go manually edit the .INF file with the necessary KF details before installing. Then create the .android folder in the right place and add a correctly named .INI file with more information. All these hoops create problems because most people who come here looking for help are flustered enough as it is and missing any one of these things or doing it wrong will just cause more issues that will have to be ironed out. It's just a bad idea all around.
And just in case you believe that the SDK drivers are somehow "better" than the KFU ones... they're not. All of the relavant files are identical. When I was writing my drivers guide, I checked them all to see if it could be a potential source for differences on why one install would work and not another. All of the md5 checksums for each and every .DLL and .CAT file match each other.
The only difference I found was in the source.properties files and that was just in the order of the name=value pairs at the bottom and the SDK distribution has an "Extra.NameDisplay=Google USB Driver" pair while the KFU one does not. I tried to find out how this file gets used in the driver installation, but the fact that I came up empty leads me to believe that it's a a non-player in the whole scheme of things.
Of course, the android_winusb.inf file is different between the two because some Kindle Fire specific information has already been added to it in KFU, but this is a good thing because you won't have to go do it manually and therefore skip an error prone task.
Please do not complicate matters by having people do this unnecessarily. If people want to install the drivers manually, they can point the driver update wizard to the KFU folder containing the android_winusb.inf file and it will do the same thing. If they use KFU's install_drivers batch file to install, they'll even get the .android folder created in the right place and the adb_usb.ini tossed in there with the correct values.
If you believe my reasoning is flawed, please let me know how installing from the SDK makes a difference. If you have a sound argument, I'm perfectly willing to admit my wrong, change my position and my guide as well.
I am inclined to agree with you with so many different instructions with different levels of experience how the new user can achieve root and proper driver installation has become muddled to the point where people are getting stuck in modes rendering thier devices unseen by thier computers. Stuck in fastboot or recovery or soft and hard bricked with batteries draining and time running out to achieve a fix. There is a serious need for a clear easy exploit for very low experience level OS dedicated. KFU worked perfect for me and so did adb but with others it has created a problem if I had the knowledge base to build a one click wonder I would but its way out of my experience level even though I have successfully rooted every device I have 2 kindles a galaxy tab 10.1 and my droidx after the .621 ota for droidx. So where do we go from here?
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I've seen you mention the Android SDK a number of times as it relates to driver installation. This is not meant as an argumentative post, but the SDK is entirely unnecessary if the user won't be "developing" software and just wants to install the drivers.
The SDK method is a lot of unneeded bulk to install the Java JDK, so you can install the Android SDK installer to get at the USB driver extras. Then the user has to go manually edit the .INF file with the necessary KF details before installing. Then create the .android folder in the right place and add a correctly named .INI file with more information. All these hoops create problems because most people who come here looking for help are flustered enough as it is and missing any one of these things or doing it wrong will just cause more issues that will have to be ironed out. It's just a bad idea all around.
And just in case you believe that the SDK drivers are somehow "better" than the KFU ones... they're not. All of the relavant files are identical. When I was writing my drivers guide, I checked them all to see if it could be a potential source for differences on why one install would work and not another. All of the md5 checksums for each and every .DLL and .CAT file match each other.
The only difference I found was in the source.properties files and that was just in the order of the name=value pairs at the bottom and the SDK distribution has an "Extra.NameDisplay=Google USB Driver" pair while the KFU one does not. I tried to find out how this file gets used in the driver installation, but the fact that I came up empty leads me to believe that it's a a non-player in the whole scheme of things.
Of course, the android_winusb.inf file is different between the two because some Kindle Fire specific information has already been added to it in KFU, but this is a good thing because you won't have to go do it manually and therefore skip an error prone task.
Please do not complicate matters by having people do this unnecessarily. If people want to install the drivers manually, they can point the driver update wizard to the KFU folder containing the android_winusb.inf file and it will do the same thing. If they use KFU's install_drivers batch file to install, they'll even get the .android folder created in the right place and the adb_usb.ini tossed in there with the correct values.
If you believe my reasoning is flawed, please let me know how installing from the SDK makes a difference. If you have a sound argument, I'm perfectly willing to admit my wrong, change my position and my guide as well.
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Yes, I know.
The point is to get people to forget about KFU for a minute and learn to do it the right way first (so as not to get distracted) so when they ARE ready to use a utility like the KFU they will know what to do when problems arise. You learn to do it the hard way first (one that will be around LONG after the KFU is gone) and THEN you can take shortcuts. That's pretty much standard procedure for learning anything.
I think it's safe to say that the KFU has caused more problems for newbies than has helped. And the ones it has helped usually have to learn the old way anyway. I'm just trying to get rid of the middleman.
Just think of how great this place would be if everyone knew how to how to do this on their own.
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That being said, the people that I told to do it the "hard" way haven't needed any further help.
And if it does come back to bite me in the ass, you can rest assured, I'll eat my words.
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soupmagnet said:
Yes, I know.
The point is to get people to forget about KFU for a minute and learn to do it the right way first (so as not to get distracted) so when they ARE ready to use a utility like the KFU they will know what to do when problems arise. You learn to do it the hard way first (one that will be around LONG after the KFU is gone) and THEN you can take shortcuts. That's pretty much standard procedure for learning anything.
I think it's safe to say that the KFU has caused more problems for newbies than has helped. And the ones it has helped usually have to learn the old way anyway. I'm just trying to get rid of the middleman.
Just think of how great this place would be if everyone knew how to how to do this on their own.
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I get your point about KFU and I think my guide is evidence of that. However, I'm in complete disagreement about your suggestion for the driver installation process. I don't believe fixing one's Kindle Fire should first involve learning the roundabout way of installing the drivers. In my mind, the KFU utility is entirely separate from the driver installation batch file. I see no good reason make that part of it any more difficult than it has to be. I also think your middleman analogy is a bit flawed. It's more like having the guy go chop down a tree in the dead of night when you've already got a stack of firewood for him.
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marcelloLins said:
Hi everyone, i am trying to root my kindle fire device , but the process is not working.
Here is what i've done:
1. Installed Drivers from "install_drivers.bat" file from KFU
2. Manually Installed Drivers
Still cannot make ADB Status to go "ONLINE".
The way i can make it "ONLINE" is by executing the "run.bat" file as administrator, but, doing this, leads me to error "cannot find tools/wget.exe". Ofc, because running with administrator privileges forces it to run from system32 folder.
I've already tried to run from the Command Prompt, even running the command prompt as administrator aswell.
Any idea of how to solve it ?
My Kindle is 6.3 Version. I bought it in February.
I used the KFU 0.9.5 version.
I also tried to install drivers manually, from a difference source ( a youtube video tutorial of how to root 6.2 version ), but, the device manager says the drivers are already up to date.
My device manager shows a "Android device" at the top of the list, but no "Kindle" or "Amazon Kindle" device in the whole list.
What am i doing wrong ?
Please, if you can't solve it, at least, bump this thread.
Thanks !
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So, instead of totally hijacking this thread for the sake of an argument...
I think you need to confirm that your drivers are installed properly. Regardless of what path you take to get them installed, pay attention to the middle part of this post...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23747671&postcount=2
and make sure that you are seeing the right things in the device manager. You'll have to verify that part of it is working right, so Windows and the Kindle Fire are able to communicate with each other before moving ahead in your troubleshooting.
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I get your point about KFU and I think my guide is evidence of that. However, I'm in complete disagreement about your suggestion for the driver installation process. I don't believe fixing one's Kindle Fire should first involve learning the roundabout way of installing the drivers. In my mind, the KFU utility is entirely separate from the driver installation batch file. I see no good reason make that part of it any more difficult than it has to be. I also think your middleman analogy is a bit flawed. It's more like having the guy go chop down a tree in the dead of night when you've already got a stack of firewood for him
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Let me say just this and I'll let it be. Ask yourself, "What's more likely to stand the test of time? Android SDK or KFU?" What happens when KFU becomes obsolete/unmaintained and is no longer hosted for people to download? What happens when KF owners move on to other Android devices not supported in such a way? Configuring and installing device drivers is a basic skill that every Android device owner should have anyway, and it causes no harm pushing people to learn it. I'm not breaking any rules by doing so and until now you are the only one to have had a problem with it.
That being said, don't let my disagreement fool you into thinking I have anything anything less than the utmost respect for you. - Quite the contrary in fact. I personally have learned a lot from you and many others here and I feel it is my duty to pay it forward. I apologize if the method I use offends you, and if others here feel the same way I will definitely take it into consideration.
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Let me say just this and I'll let it be. Ask yourself, "What's more likely to stand the test of time? Android SDK or KFU?" What happens when KFU becomes obsolete/unmaintained and is no longer hosted for people to download? What happens when KF owners move on to other Android devices not supported in such a way? Configuring and installing device drivers is a basic skill that every Android device owner should have anyway, and it causes no harm pushing people to learn it. I'm not breaking any rules by doing so and until now you are the only one to have had a problem with it.
That being said, don't let my disagreement fool you into thinking I have anything anything less than the utmost respect for you. - Quite the contrary in fact. I personally have learned a lot from you and many others here and I feel it is my duty to pay it forward. I apologize if the method I use offends you, and if others here feel the same way I will definitely take it into consideration.
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Believe me, I'm not offended by this discussion. We are just having a respectful disagreement over a mutually shared desire to help people who want to mod their KF. I understand that you aren't doing anything wrong. I'm not wagging my finger at you or yelling, "my way or the highway!" It's just my belief that going the SDK route is error prone and the cost/benefit of doing it that way may be too high for most users to bear.
Let me share an experience I had with someone who PM'd me for help after deciding to install the drivers from the SDK. After days of back and forth, he figured out that he had created the adb_usb.ini file as a text file and Windows was hiding the file suffix. So, he actually had an adb_usb.ini.txt file and with Windows Explorer only showing the adb_usb.ini part, he hadn't really considered the possibility that the file could have been named incorrectly. It's the silly things that will trip up even a knowledgeable user.
I'm not saying never to the SDK... I'm just saying it shouldn't be the first choice. I certainly won't be upset if you decide to instruct users to install the SDK just for the drivers, but they might be if they figure out they could have gotten to the same place with KFU's driver installer in 1/20th of the time.
So I am not quite sure what exactly fastboot is supposed to do. I know you can flash recoveries, bootloaders, etc with it but that is about it for my understanding.
I tried to get into fastboot (following instructions here on the forum) mode earlier today and while the tablet gives me the fastboot message in the upper left, windows says that fastboot failed. Is there a folder I am supposed to be running cmd prompt from?
Sorry, still new to this stuff and my understanding of some of these tools is limited at best.
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So I am not quite sure what exactly fastboot is supposed to do. I know you can flash recoveries, bootloaders, etc with it but that is about it for my understanding.
I tried to get into fastboot mode earlier today and while the tablet gives me the fastboot message in the upper left, windows says that fastboot failed. Is there a folder I am supposed to be running cmd prompt from?
Sorry, still new to this stuff and my understanding of some of these tools is limited at best.
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Give me 30 mins got all the reading u gonna need b4 u make an attempt
if u fk up in here there is definitely NO WAY BACK in meantime you'll
Want to set adb as environmental variable in windows gonna make it
Helluva lot easier . Android sdk will too. f u don't know what I'm on About..
.best do some reading up on these as well.
Fast boot ain't something someone else can talk u thru and I doubt the devs will
Have any sympathy for anyone asking ....i bricked my tab pls help....
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Give me 30 mins got all the reading u gonna need b4 u make an attempt
if u fk up in here there is definitely NO WAY BACK in meantime you'll
Want to set adb as environmental variable in windows gonna make it
Helluva lot easier . Android sdk will too. f u don't know what I'm on About..
.best do some reading up on these as well.
Fast boot ain't something someone else can talk u thru and I doubt the devs will
Have any sympathy for anyone asking ....i bricked my tab pls help....
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Running adb from its native folder is not an issue.....is fastboot the same way having to run cmd from folder that a file is located?
I prefer not to mess stuff that I do not fully comprehend (not that I fully comprehend ANY of this) but some of it makes more sense once you are into it rather than reading someone elses interpretation.
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CyaN1de said:
Running adb from its native folder is not an issue.....is fastboot the same way having to run cmd from folder that a file is located?
I prefer not to mess stuff that I do not fully comprehend (not that I fully comprehend ANY of this) but some of it makes more sense once you are into it rather than reading someone elses interpretation.
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yeh just a group of extended adb commands that allow you to do some pretty awesome stuff - like really, really bricking your tab for instance, lol. I'm unsure as to whether all the fastboot commands are available to us - i havent had enough spare time to devote to heavy duty reading in the Dev Forums!!!! You can flash everything in here so its like a supercharger;;;;Sort of like going from timmydeans EUU root to Civ's nvflash unlocking bootloaders thing, if you know what i mean.......
But heres some reading, most of it tutorial step by step stuff, mostly for other devices which may not apply to our tab but definitely apply to fastboot. AS you know, there is alot of info in our own dev forum but its hard to find a flow as the devs actually speak a different language to us!!!! So the tutorials are quite good in that respect as they use noob-ite speak
the backup and restore tute is a goody, couldnt get it going on v3 so looking forward to giving it a go on v4 (when i can find a quiet 30 mins or so, that is)
anyways happy reading be interested in your thoughts and keep us posted about what you get around to trying
rgds
Full Phone Backup http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
setup adb http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1249798
adb http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=879701
adb logcat http://droid-force.com/showthread.php?tid=150&pid=573#pid573
ics BL by Skrilax_CZ http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1514951
So I located Fastboot in D:\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools\Fastboot.exe
But putting tablet into fastboot mode yields the driver installer to report that "Device driver software was not succesfully installed".......Fastboot X Failed....is this normal? Will it run when I use cmd prompt from D:\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools?
I guess a little linux knowledge would go a long way.....too bad I can't get a grasp on that either.
Thanks for the links.....hopefully I can find time to give a read.
Set up adb/fastboot for noob-ites 101
CyaN1de said:
So I located Fastboot in D:\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools\Fastboot.exe
But putting tablet into fastboot mode yields the driver installer to report that "Device driver software was not succesfully installed".......Fastboot X Failed....is this normal? Will it run when I use cmd prompt from D:\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools?
I guess a little linux knowledge would go a long way.....too bad I can't get a grasp on that either.
Thanks for the links.....hopefully I can find time to give a read.
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weird??? i kicked straight in to bl, fastboot drivers installed, never saw red x
u mean u arent cmd from platform tools???
in the cpuid guide I suggested extracting the just_adb.zip into C:\ so setting
up the env. var. would be easier I have been meaning to post the steps for
doing that, guess theres no time like the present
Set adb as Environment Variable or call adb direct from command prompt
............ first, copy the path to your install - in your case:
............ "Path to adb" = D:\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools
1. Click on the Start menu
2. Right click on Computer
3. Click on Advanced system settings
4. Click on the Environment Variables button
5. Look for Path in the System Variables section. Double click on it
6. Go to the end of the Variable value box and put in a semicolon ;
7. Now paste your "Path to adb" after the ;
8. it should look like this in your case ;D:\Android\android-sdk\platform-tools
9. Now test it out - start - run/search - cmd - in cmd window type: adb devices
10. If you've followed the steps you will see your device ID - voila!!!!
as you can see this makes trouble shooting so dam easy -
if you cant get a device id do not go any further in what u r doing
cos it aint gonna work....period!!!!! also since ICS has screwed
with getting our cpuid like this, for our purpose here, it is only important
that a device id is shown - not how right or wrong it is.....clear????
so getting back to it, check fastboot*.exe in same folder as adb.exe -
it came like this in my own setup not sure about the asdk setup -
remember too fastboot only has a few commands and i still havent
got round to trying them all out yet....
to anyone following this, I cannot say enough how dangerous this can be
please, please, please take a moment to read thru just one of the links i
posted earlier - they are tutorials and if you see the dev thread regarding
v4 unlock...you will not only learn something amazing but begin to
appreciate and respect the work done by these devs who laid the groundwork
that enabled civato and blakthund3r to produce what they have with the
unlocked bootloader - without this groundwork we would still be waiting
for a way to get full root access and cwm, custom roms, themes and mods......
Thanks for that
Seems my Windows skillz need brushing up on again too....LOL
C:\Users\username>adb devices
List of devices attached
11717XXXXXX device
CyaN1de said:
Thanks for that
Seems my Windows skillz need brushing up on again too....LOL
C:\Users\username>adb devices
List of devices attached
11717XXXXXX device
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sweet m8 -
yeh whoever thought windoze would actually be useful!!!!
which i guess is freakn handy as having to go linux would spin me out....
what can i say??? I'm a child of windoze had no choice, forced-addiction
before i was born, lol - breaking the habit, but always go back, goddamit
OK....I get the adb ok.
But when I put tab into FB i get the driver error (see attachment). I suppose that I should not be getting this?
Trying just "fastboot reboot" (not wanting to go any farther until I get a grasp...HAHA) I get "waiting for device"
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OK....I get the adb ok.
But when I put tab into FB i get the driver error (see attachment). I suppose that I should not be getting this?
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dont let windows install
choose let me choose where to install dunno exact wording
Does not give me a choice.
Driver is located at D:\Android\android-sdk\extras\google\usb_driver ???
This is making my head hurt....LOL
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Does not give me a choice.
Driver is located at D:\Android\android-sdk\extras\google\usb_driver ???
This is making my head hurt....LOL
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Yr head hurts????
Ive updated the cpuid guide u my wanna take 5 min timeout to read it, the answers r all in there
I don't use full sdk there's a link to mini sdk zip in that post just has ad and fast boot
I've never had to use google drivers
Just plugged my tab in and its just 'worked'
DL Acer drivers if u haven't already . These are the most important ones to have installed right.
Disconnect and reboot everything
Run Acer setup.exe
Plug USB in
Go into fast boot, win doze will want to install f/b drivers let win doze do it, but if they fail, then run again and choose let me install, blah, blah, blah
What OS u got? Vista/win 7 don't normally have any probs
Acer drivers have been installed and all relevant sdk packages installed and up to date AFAIK. (USB_Acer_1.06.1500_A30HA31H_A.zip)
Had no issues installing ICS Bootloader V.3 manually through APX (no auto script) via instructions so I know I can at least do that well.....LOL
Might have to try reinstalling USB drivers and see if that helps.
Thanks
EDIT: Reinstalled USB Drivers now I can't get adb working....F#@K!!!!!!!!!
EDIT II: Re-Re-Installed Drviers and ADB working again...yay...LOL
EDIT III: Used A500_Manager.exe, clicked on "Enter Fastboot" and windows installed and recognized drivers......DBL YAY!!!!
C:\Users\username>fastboot reboot
rebooting...
finished. total time: 0.165s
Now.......to Brick this puppy.....
Thanx for your help dibb_nz....looks like all I needed in the first place was a driver reinstall...HAHA.
Hek m8 for a second or two there, I was feeling ya pain, lol
Oh but the elation when it finally happens!!!!!
I dunno why those drivers act out like that, but it always the same....
Fail, reinstall, fail, reinstall u can understand why peeps get frustrated
Glad u got it m8