Hello,
Been struggling a lot with my battery drain since I bought my 6t.
I am unrooted and now with 9.0.7, I already uninstalled a lot of apps to try and locate the root cause for my battery drain. I never had social apps which I know can misbehave a lot.
I have location, nfc, etc always turned off, battery optimisation settings always on.
I installed better battery settings and what you see is during my sleep, and the phone drained a lot once more.
Another issue I am having is that each time the phone reboots the find my device is activated even after I set it to not do anything.
I need help though, I quite do not understand what I should do now.
What is my problem? What can I do to achieve the crazy screen on time some of you have? More, I would be happy to just solve the screen off battery drain. One day I had over 40% drain without using the phone more than 5 minutes.
Can someone please help me out?
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cesar.maranhao said:
Hello,
Been struggling a lot with my battery drain since I bought my 6t.
I am unrooted and now with 9.0.7, I already uninstalled a lot of apps to try and locate the root cause for my battery drain. I never had social apps which I know can misbehave a lot.
I have location, nfc, etc always turned off, battery optimisation settings always on.
I installed better battery settings and what you see is during my sleep, and the phone drained a lot once more.
Another issue I am having is that each time the phone reboots the find my device is activated even after I set it to not do anything.
I need help though, I quite do not understand what I should do now.
What is my problem? What can I do to achieve the crazy screen on time some of you have? More, I would be happy to just solve the screen off battery drain. One day I had over 40% drain without using the phone more than 5 minutes.
Can someone please help me out?
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The problem is that you messed up your stock Rom in the process of unrooting. My best advice is to root your phone again and back up everything with Titanium Backup. After that, use MSM download to return to stock ( The same software state you had it in when you first bought it). I can assure you that the hardware is fine, but misbehaving software will only cause more harm to your phone. No one will provide you with a simple fix like a flashable zip and dont panic because its not that big of a deal. I bricked my 6t right after misreading instructions, but it recovered and its heavily modded. Go back to stock and start over
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cesar.maranhao said:
Hello,
Been struggling a lot with my battery drain since I bought my 6t.
I am unrooted and now with 9.0.7, I already uninstalled a lot of apps to try and locate the root cause for my battery drain. I never had social apps which I know can misbehave a lot.
I have location, nfc, etc always turned off, battery optimisation settings always on.
I installed better battery settings and what you see is during my sleep, and the phone drained a lot once more.
Another issue I am having is that each time the phone reboots the find my device is activated even after I set it to not do anything.
I need help though, I quite do not understand what I should do now.
What is my problem? What can I do to achieve the crazy screen on time some of you have? More, I would be happy to just solve the screen off battery drain. One day I had over 40% drain without using the phone more than 5 minutes.
Can someone please help me out?
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I came up with that answer without checking those screenshots, but now its obvious. By unrooted, do you mean you had root and then unrooted or havent attempted anything? The other thing is obvious, your battery is draining because of google play services. I had the same problem, but i removed my gapps because i use better app alternatives that dont require google play services. The other thing is i use services though my browser than having a separate app for everything. I find it safer and i use Brave browser.
Hentai_expert said:
The problem is that you messed up your stock Rom in the process of unrooting. My best advice is to root your phone again and back up everything with Titanium Backup. After that, use MSM download to return to stock ( The same software state you had it in when you first bought it). I can assure you that the hardware is fine, but misbehaving software will only cause more harm to your phone. No one will provide you with a simple fix like a flashable zip and dont panic because its not that big of a deal. I bricked my 6t right after misreading instructions, but it recovered and its heavily modded. Go back to stock and start over
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I came up with that answer without checking those screenshots, but now its obvious. By unrooted, do you mean you had root and then unrooted or havent attempted anything? The other thing is obvious, your battery is draining because of google play services. I had the same problem, but i removed my gapps because i use better app alternatives that dont require google play services. The other thing is i use services though my browser than having a separate app for everything. I find it safer and i use Brave browser.
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You probably got it right, I already had twrp installed but since it was not working I went back to stock. How did you figure that out?
I might need some help to do as you said since I do not want to brick the phone. What if i do a factory reset? Will it cure the problem?
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cesar.maranhao said:
You probably got it right, I already had twrp installed but since it was not working I went back to stock. How did you figure that out?
I might need some help to do as you said since I do not want to brick the phone. What if i do a factory reset? Will it cure the problem?
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A factory reset wont really fix the issue, but you could always give it a try if you backup your precious files first. The problem that i am currently facing on my device is that i cant port Google Camera. I realized that it doesnt work without google play services, but i am not going to start over from stock just to get one app (Doing so fixes everything, but there is a workaround). I am planning on Deodexing my stock ROM and installing MicroG. Its really difficult to find easy instructions , but i gotta challenge myself. Anyways, in your case you just need to give the MSM Download Tool a try, its normally used to unbrick devices and return them to stock. You can always use it in case you mess up your software to the point where flashable zips only cause more issues.
# 1 Backup
# 2 Factory Reset or MSM Downloadtool ( Your Choice!) The tool is on the Op6t Forum somewhere.
Hentai_expert said:
A factory reset wont really fix the issue, but you could always give it a try if you backup your precious files first. The problem that i am currently facing on my device is that i cant port Google Camera. I realized that it doesnt work without google play services, but i am not going to start over from stock just to get one app (Doing so fixes everything, but there is a workaround). I am planning on Deodexing my stock ROM and installing MicroG. Its really difficult to find easy instructions , but i gotta challenge myself. Anyways, in your case you just need to give the MSM Download Tool a try, its normally used to unbrick devices and return them to stock. You can always use it in case you mess up your software to the point where flashable zips only cause more issues.
# 1 Backup
# 2 Factory Reset or MSM Downloadtool ( Your Choice!) The tool is on the Op6t Forum somewhere.
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Accessed stock recovery, made a factory reset from there by erasing everything. In about 11 hours the phone used almost 20% battery and no screen on time! Just standing there the whole time. I think I really need to do something, will try that tool you pointed.
No chance of bricking right?
Regards
tried it, it gives me a sahara communication failed. not sure what should I do now.
EDIT: I remember better now. when I got the phone it was on 9.0.4, I updated to 9.0.5. Then I side loaded the temporary and somewhat "compatible" TWRP which I used to flash Magisk. not sure why but root checker said I was not rooted and since an official TWRPO seemed to be far I decided to lock the bootloader (this gave me the official recovery back).
Do you think this is what is causing me the battery drain? everything is working properly to the exception of battery drain.
ANOTHER EDIT: decided to contact oneplus directly and explained the situation (even mentioned I had twrp and that I flashed magisk. they asked me to send the phone so they will see if this is hardware problem or software. not sure if they are going to charge me or not but I think it is unfair to charge (lets wait and see).
Can anyone help me figure out how to solve this problem assuming this is a software issue? I would pretty much like to avoid shipping the phone, never had good experiences with these rma assistance in the past.
Hi Cesar,
Hentai already suggested you how your problem could be solved
Cheers
Hentai_expert said:
A factory reset wont really fix the issue, but you could always give it a try if you backup your precious files first. The problem that i am currently facing on my device is that i cant port Google Camera. I realized that it doesnt work without google play services, but i am not going to start over from stock just to get one app (Doing so fixes everything, but there is a workaround). I am planning on Deodexing my stock ROM and installing MicroG. Its really difficult to find easy instructions , but i gotta challenge myself. Anyways, in your case you just need to give the MSM Download Tool a try, its normally used to unbrick devices and return them to stock. You can always use it in case you mess up your software to the point where flashable zips only cause more issues.
# 1 Backup
# 2 Factory Reset or MSM Downloadtool ( Your Choice!) The tool is on the Op6t Forum somewhere.
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komodo_1 said:
Hi Cesar,
Hentai already suggested you how your problem could be solved
Cheers
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I know but for some reason I cannot have access, it gives me the Sahara error. What should I do?
cesar.maranhao said:
I know but for some reason I cannot have access, it gives me the Sahara error. What should I do?
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The mistake you are committing is this: having installed BBS, you should have taken an idle dump (as described in the OP of the BBS thread) and posted it in the BBS thread asking for help. Screenshots won't help.
Google Play Services by itself rarely drains battery on Oreo and especially Pie. All the apps go through Play Services for their requirements and if there is a misbehaving app, instead of finding it, people blame Play Services (I am not a fanboy of Google).
EDIT: Having said that, I just checked your screenshots. BBS is not functioning properly and the readings are skewed. Which version are you running? From your battery history screenshots, I see that you seem to have about 2% per hour drain. At best it can be brought down to 0.5%. Uninstall BBS, reboot and reinstall it. Let us see whether this time it runs properly.
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6T MsmDownloadTool V4.0 (OOS 9.0.5)
well, was able to get rid of the sahara problem and it worked. lets see if battery life improves or not.
Yes, I am pleased now.
cesar.maranhao said:
well, was able to get rid of the sahara problem and it worked. lets see if battery life improves or not.
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What is sahara problem?
It is related with a communication problem between pc and qualcomm
This phone is very good.
cesar.maranhao said:
This phone is very good.
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Nicee!! What firmware version?
I noticed that every time i disconnect the cable when phone is fully charged after few minutes the percentage drops to 98 and few minutes late to 95 and then is more more longer time to drop to 94 and become Solid the discharge.. Someone know what i can do for fix this issue
I am still in 9.0.7.
I think that drain right after disconnection from the charger also happened to me but not sure how it is now after my "cleaning" ! Before when it was draining a lot I had it for sure but the phone was always sucking battery.
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Hi all,
EDIT2: MAIN PROBLEM FIXED!
I was incredibly frustrated last night, so I figured I'd just re-root as I have a copy of the stock flash tools and a TOT file sitting on my PC should I need to return.
I rooted (again), installed binaries, uninstalled Superuser, installed Super SU, and (just for fun) installed Greenify.
Lo and behold, I rebooted three times now and NO KNOCK LOOP!
I'm still having issues with knock-on not waking the phone sometimes, but once I hit the power button everything works fine.
As I posted above, the proximity sensor app seems to have a huge delay when uncovered. 3-15 seconds at totally random intervals. This might explain my still present knock-on delay issues.... ?
EDIT: Not Greenify causing this, but some other combo of rooting and system file changes. Could also be the proximity sensor misbehaving or just a bad copy of the phone.
Just a friendly PSA, but Greenify (the popular hibernation app that is really awesome) will gimp your knock-on feature for good. As in: returning to stock does not fix it. Myself and at least one other user have had this problem. I'm now having to swap out my phone after just getting it how I like it, which is infuriating.
I'd rather wait until somebody gets a fix up, but I'm within 14-days so I'm not risking it.
Note: This is CLEARLY not the fault of Greenify. It's some bizarre file system/sensor error. Greenify is great.
Related thread where the problem was thought to be fixed... but is not for people who installed Greenify.
I'm using the Verizon variant, so I don't know if this applies to GSM models.
From a dev standpoint this makes zero sense to me, so I'm kind of curious if anybody has better insight. Greenify, for the most part, is just leveraging system-level features to disallow the start-up of a particular program when the screen is off.
I am personally using Greenify on a number of apps with success and no ill side-effects. There are a number of code dependencies involved in its use, but mainly it is the knock-on related apk/odex in /system/app - so is it possible these people are Greenifying the wrong things?
Also, I would question their return to stock, Greenify doesn't work on a hardware level. If they didn't return the right files and/or kernel to stock, yeah, it might have lingering ill-effects. I would say that merely flashing a stock ROM is not returning to stock. It isn't clean enough.
tl;dr: There is no logical reason in my mind that Greenify would permanently break knock-on. I need more proof.
I've been using greenify since the day after I got the phone and rooted it, so 2 weeks now, and knock on works perfectly every single time.
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and I'm on the Verizon version. what app are you guys hibernating that's causing this?
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burningembers said:
From a dev standpoint this makes zero sense to me, so I'm kind of curious if anybody has better insight. Greenify, for the most part, is just leveraging system-level features to disallow the start-up of a particular program when the screen is off.
I am personally using Greenify on a number of apps with success and no ill side-effects. There are a number of code dependencies involved in its use, but mainly it is the knock-on related apk/odex in /system/app - so is it possible these people are Greenifying the wrong things?
Also, I would question their return to stock, Greenify doesn't work on a hardware level. If they didn't return the right files and/or kernel to stock, yeah, it might have lingering ill-effects. I would say that merely flashing a stock ROM is not returning to stock. It isn't clean enough.
tl;dr: There is no logical reason in my mind that Greenify would permanently break knock-on. I need more proof.
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I'd have to agree with this!!
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Knock on seems to work on mine (most of the time anyway) while using Greenify for a couple of weeks now. If it was going to gimp it, I'm thinking it would have by now. I have the T-Mobile variant. Its basically just hibernating apps from the market, not any system apps so I guess I don't see the correlation.
Greenify works for me
I'm stock rooted and I heavily use Greenify with my Verizon G2. No problems with Knock On at all!
Edit: Stock rooted (not the chinese way), no OTA, auto-hibernation feature works perfectly too.
um question... did you guys who have the problem use the Chinese root method? someone brought it up and now I'm curious....
i did but then flashed back to stock to reroot the good way. you guys who aren't having the issue with me, you use Chinese or regular?
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I only froze Facebook and Twitter. Have completely Re flashed stock and BlackHole ROM to no avail. Read the thread, it seems to be vexing even advanced users. The fix of changing screen effect does not resolve it.
YMMV
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lattiboy said:
I only froze Facebook and Twitter. Have completely Re flashed stock and BlackHole ROM to no avail. Read the thread, it seems to be vexing even advanced users. The fix of changing screen effect does not resolve it.
YMMV
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When you say re-flashed stock, what does that mean?
Are all affected users on Verizon and using BlackHole ROM?
I'm just trying to narrow this scope down, because this still makes no sense to me.
burningembers said:
When you say re-flashed stock, what does that mean?
Are all affected users on Verizon and using BlackHole ROM?
I'm just trying to narrow this scope down, because this still makes no sense to me.
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1) I rooted
2) installed Greenify
3) bug happens the next morning.
4) went back to stock, using these instructions.
5) bug happens again
6) re-rooted and installed BlackHole ROM.
Everything was (seemingly) cool for a bit, but last night it happened again. Twice this morning I've had the weird behavior sited in the original thread and I'm going to take it into VZW and leave stock in until this gets figured out.
Again, not trying to cause alarm or panic. I'll update my post to reflect the YMMV nature of this issue.
You should really rename this thread. I have not experienced any knock issues and I've installed this app since I bought the phone. False psa
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lattiboy said:
1) I rooted
2) installed Greenify
3) bug happens the next morning.
4) went back to stock, using these instructions.
5) bug happens again
6) re-rooted and installed BlackHole ROM.
Everything was (seemingly) cool for a bit, but last night it happened again. Twice this morning I've had the weird behavior sited in the original thread and I'm going to take it into VZW and leave stock in until this gets figured out.
Again, not trying to cause alarm or panic. I'll update my post to reflect the YMMV nature of this issue.
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Are you using a custom launcher or does the rom install a custom launcher? That would surely affect the knock on feature.
SysAdmNj said:
Are you using a custom launcher or does the rom install a custom launcher? That would surely affect the knock on feature.
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Nope, using stock home, never even installed Nova or anything else.
I added a big YMMV to it, but because the outcome seems quite dire on such an expensive device, I feel this is warranted.
lattiboy said:
Nope, using stock home, never even installed Nova or anything else.
I added a big YMMV to it, but because the outcome seems quite dire on such an expensive device, I feel this is warranted.
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You went back to stock, rooted, installed greenify and still the same issue? Which root method did you use, the chinese one?
The issue might be caused by misuse of Greenify. Have you greenified any system apps related to the Knock-on feature?
Greenify should never "damage" your device in a non-recoverable way since it never touches any system files. Just simply de-greenify the app and manually relaunch it once to restore everything to normal.
Hope one of you G2 users could find out that key greenified app which caused this terrible issue, thus we could warn others in a more effective way.
lattiboy said:
Nope, using stock home, never even installed Nova or anything else.
I added a big YMMV to it, but because the outcome seems quite dire on such an expensive device, I feel this is warranted.
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Yeah, it is an expensive device, but when you go rooting it and mucking around with system files, it is kind of a risk you take. My real issue is two-fold 1) Bad publicity for Greenify when I still don't believe it to be a problem with Greenify and 2) That LG/Verizon are taking a loss on time/cost because users are essentially breaking their own device. I put this on-par with you putting your phone in a bucket of water and then going back to Verizon and getting a new one because it doesn't work.
Now, that said, maybe this truly is a HARDWARE bug/issue with the Verizon model. On AT&T I have Facebook, Humble Bundle, Keep, OfficeSuite, Reddit News, Series Guide, and Google Search greenified. I've modified system APKs. I've flashed some ROMs. I've toggled Knockon off/on in settings. And my phone is fine.
Someone needs to start data collecting. What model phone do these users have, did they take the OTA, did they at some-point use Chinese root method, are they in a dark room, did they toggle Knockon on/off, does toggling knockon on/off on an in-store device result in a similar issue, are they all on Verizon, etc. etc.
One thing someone mentioned the other day was that the latest Verizon OTA changed the scheduler from CFQ to ROW. Is it possible that this is borking the knockon application from staying in the queue properly to register the knockon events?
burningembers said:
Yeah, it is an expensive device, but when you go rooting it and mucking around with system files, it is kind of a risk you take. My real issue is two-fold 1) Bad publicity for Greenify when I still don't believe it to be a problem with Greenify and 2) That LG/Verizon are taking a loss on time/cost because users are essentially breaking their own device. I put this on-par with you putting your phone in a bucket of water and then going back to Verizon and getting a new one because it doesn't work.
Now, that said, maybe this truly is a HARDWARE bug/issue with the Verizon model. On AT&T I have Facebook, Humble Bundle, Keep, OfficeSuite, Reddit News, Series Guide, and Google Search greenified. I've modified system APKs. I've flashed some ROMs. I've toggled Knockon off/on in settings. And my phone is fine.
Someone needs to start data collecting. What model phone do these users have, did they take the OTA, did they at some-point use Chinese root method, are they in a dark room, did they toggle Knockon on/off, does toggling knockon on/off on an in-store device result in a similar issue, are they all on Verizon, etc. etc.
One thing someone mentioned the other day was that the latest Verizon OTA changed the scheduler from CFQ to ROW. Is it possible that this is borking the knockon application from staying in the queue properly to register the knockon events?
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I did take the OTA, but before flashing the current version of TWRP.
I feel bad about it and I should've waited until these kinds of things were worked out.
I'm trying one last flash back to stock to make sure it isn't a user generated problem with flashing incorrectly.
lattiboy said:
I did take the OTA, but before flashing the current version of TWRP.
I feel bad about it and I should've waited until these kinds of things were worked out.
I'm trying one last flash back to stock to make sure it isn't a user generated problem with flashing incorrectly.
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So flashing back to pre-OTA doesn't clear the problem at all?
burningembers said:
So flashing back to pre-OTA doesn't clear the problem at all?
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No, I just flashed to stock (yet again) and I got the weird wake-lock freeze thing within 30 minutes.
Super annoying.
lattiboy said:
No, I just flashed to stock (yet again) and I got the weird wake-lock freeze thing within 30 minutes.
Super annoying.
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What's your Baseband and Kernel version in Software Information?
I know for a *fact* that the OTA changed the cpu scheduler. What I'm curious is if their scheduler changes have somehow caused service-level applications like the KnockOn APK to die/hibernate during a lengthy deep sleep. This makes way more sense to me than merely using Greenify causing a permanent breaking of software/kernel interactions.
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What's your Baseband and Kernel version in Software Information?.
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This is it. No root, fresh stock 15 minutes ago.
So i've had my G2 for a few weeks now and it has started acting weird.
I have done nothing to it besides installing some apps, from the play store not from anywhere else.
But now it has started lagging MASIVELY, sometimes i can't even come past the lockscreen, and sometimes the lockscreen is not even there.
Also when i try to type a message or something it starts the massive lag, i have no diea why since i've jsut used it as it is, taking photos and using instagram/facebook/snapchat, no gaming or anything else.
Also, notifications comes after the real message i get, vibration comes on 15 seconds before.
It also heats up when it is in my pocket and drains the battery.
This usually happends when i open up facebook messenger, but i can't uninstall it since i find it necessary to have.
If anyone could i reply, i would be higly gratefull!
@RomWiz I dont know why all those things are happening to you but, you can try to wipe cache,dalvik-cache and flash dorimanx kernel and or switch to another stock based rom.
If you wanna stay stock I suggest to go to settings and see how much the apps are using your memory. Facebook is syncing the whole time so its really an battery drainer. On full stock I also cant suggest much what to do since I never had that phone.
I hope that someone else with real g2 experience could help you more with your issue, goodluck with your problem and I hope you can fix it soon.:good:
wulsic said:
@RomWiz I dont know why all those things are happening to you but, you can try to wipe cache,dalvik-cache and flash dorimanx kernel and or switch to another stock based rom.
If you wanna stay stock I suggest to go to settings and see how much the apps are using your memory. Facebook is syncing the whole time so its really an battery drainer. On full stock I also cant suggest much what to do since I never had that phone.
I hope that someone else with real g2 experience could help you more with your issue, goodluck with your problem and I hope you can fix it soon.:good:
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How could i wipe dalvik on the stock rom?
And i've had it for a few weeks, and i see no one else complaining about this lag on the G2, so i don't know why this is happening.
tried rebooting?
also check the battery stats in the settings see if it shows what's draining battery, that's most likely causing all the system hogging
RomWiz said:
How could i wipe dalvik on the stock rom?
And i've had it for a few weeks, and i see no one else complaining about this lag on the G2, so i don't know why this is happening.
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I may also think that it has to do something with the thermal throttling of LG stock rom.
The only way to wipe it is in an custom recovery without wiping all your data.
I did a factory reset and it seems to be fixed now, but who knows.
Maby in a few weeks it'll start again.
@RomWiz alrigh have fun with your phone if it happens again I suggest to maybe flash an modified stock rom or the g3 rom port with dorimanx kernel.
Hey, so lately I've been experiencing incredibly fast battery drain, I am confused of why this is happening, I rooted my phone and tried doing some things to improve it, but that didn't help. When I first got my phone the battery was extremely good. I've just recently flashed stock firmware but it's still terrible, does anyone know any tips or tricks, maybe the root of my problem? I'll drop some screenshots as well.
https://imgur.com/a/dWnJl
https://imgur.com/kyEtmtH
https://imgur.com/PTxxwFS
(Sorry for only links, couldn't get the images showing here :/ )
SheepSaysBaah said:
Hey, so lately I've been experiencing incredibly fast battery drain, I am confused of why this is happening, I rooted my phone and tried doing some things to improve it, but that didn't help. When I first got my phone the battery was extremely good. I've just recently flashed stock firmware but it's still terrible, does anyone know any tips or tricks, maybe the root of my problem? I'll drop some screenshots as well.
https://imgur.com/a/dWnJl
https://imgur.com/kyEtmtH
https://imgur.com/PTxxwFS
(Sorry for only links, couldn't get the images showing here :/ )
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Hello what is your current system version? January patch?
SheepSaysBaah said:
Hey, so lately I've been experiencing incredibly fast battery drain, I am confused of why this is happening, I rooted my phone and tried doing some things to improve it, but that didn't help. When I first got my phone the battery was extremely good. I've just recently flashed stock firmware but it's still terrible, does anyone know any tips or tricks, maybe the root of my problem? I'll drop some screenshots as well.
https://imgur.com/a/dWnJl
https://imgur.com/kyEtmtH
https://imgur.com/PTxxwFS
(Sorry for only links, couldn't get the images showing here :/ )
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may be you have done this already. on stock it helped me when i force stopped the quickmemo+ every time i reboot. Give it a shot if you haven't.
rahulkrathod said:
may be you have done this already. on stock it helped me when i force stopped the quickmemo+ every time i reboot. Give it a shot if you haven't.
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Try running "diagnose" under Smart Doctor and see if it comes up with a misbehaving app.
adamsek said:
Hello what is your current system version? January patch?
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Yeah
rahulkrathod said:
may be you have done this already. on stock it helped me when i force stopped the quickmemo+ every time i reboot. Give it a shot if you haven't.
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Thanks, I'll give it a shot
SheepSaysBaah said:
Thanks, I'll give it a shot
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You should try update system apps from dedicated menu.
This does not look THAT bad. Really.
Snapchat... Facebook Messenger... Facebook dedicated app.
Also that battery monitor crap. Anything else similar to that installed?
These are true battery suckers, also try dealing with QuickMemo+ app, as previously mentioned.
romcio47 said:
This does not look THAT bad. Really.
Snapchat... Facebook Messenger... Facebook dedicated app.
Also that battery monitor crap. Anything else similar to that installed?
These are true battery suckers, also try dealing with QuickMemo+ app, as previously mentioned.
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You've got a point, will remove one of the battery monitors. I seem to be some improvement after the QuickMemo+ trick.
Although I really don't know any good Facebook & Facebook Messenger replacements. Those I tried were just not giving me full performance and they're not looking good.
Isn't there a way to disable Quickmemo+ without root ?
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Isn't there a way to disable Quickmemo+ without root ?
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I've always been able to do it with or without root, H870 no carrier.
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I've always been able to do it with or without root, H870 no carrier.
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How? I'm also on European H870 without Carrier , and I can't
I'm experiencing the similar starting this month, and seems like the battery drain comes with heating surrounding the power button, are you seeing the same symptom?
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Hey, so lately I've been experiencing incredibly fast battery drain, I am confused of why this is happening, I rooted my phone and tried doing some things to improve it, but that didn't help. When I first got my phone the battery was extremely good. I've just recently flashed stock firmware but it's still terrible, does anyone know any tips or tricks, maybe the root of my problem? I'll drop some screenshots as well.
(Sorry for only links, couldn't get the images showing here :/ )
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Did you try LG hidden menu trick? To do that, you need to type *#546368#*870# in dialer and you'll see a hidden menu. Then, tap on SVC Menu > LDB > Untick "enable" (both options needs to be unticked) close the menu and restart it. Most of the users says that this method is also useable, you can give it a try.
Hey,i have been experiencing the same thing.For me is like android system and android os and phone idle eat battery as the same time as the screen.So that means i am using the phone and three things at the same time are eating the battery.I went down from 5 hrs sot to 3 and a half.I have done a lot of things like the hidden menu,the quicknote,conserve memory thing.I don't know why it does that and the phone is really heating up.I have not experience this level of heat ever on my g6.I use the h870 europe with january security patch.
You all call this bad backup?? Plz get your phone tested. See my phones's backup.. this backup with no in between charge
sounds like a rogue app, install better battery stats from play store and check results (it will ID apps chowing battery).
Just got this today and it's great besides being a bit smaller than my g6 and because of front camera design only being technically 5.5in screen for most apps especially games.
However since I have had it, it has randomly rebooted itself twice for no real apparent reason. Is this a known issue or something anyone else has experienced? I want to try to get a bit more information on it before contacting the eBay seller. It is a refurbished.
I have never experienced a random reboot. You might want to try factory resetting your phone and then setting it up with the fresh start option instead of restoring from a Google cloud backup. Was your phone on Nougat or Oreo when you received it? Were there any major software updates?
It was fully updated to 8.1.0 when I received it. April 5th security patch. It was factory reset and I started fresh. No backup other than logging into my Google account for contacts, passwords and logins and such. I never do backups and restores always start fresh other than Google account.
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It was fully updated to 8.1.0 when I received it. April 5th security patch. It was factory reset and I started fresh. No backup other than logging into my Google account for contacts, passwords and logins and such. I never do backups and restores always start fresh other than Google account.
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Must be rogue app, had mine 3 months and never had a glitch or reboot.
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If you are still having the random reboots you might want to boot your phone into safe mode to verify that a third party app isn't causing the problem. Since your phone was refurbished it's also possible that it was damaged by the previous owner or returned for the same issue you are experiencing. I did read that some early PH-1 buyers had to return their phones because of hardware issues like overheating.
Just did it again while using chrome. Just froze up for a few seconds and restarted. Doesn't seem to be overheating and the first time it happened before I installed anything I think. Guess I'll try a reset and go from there.
Factory reset twice now. No 3rd party apps installed. Updated all apps on Google play. The default phone apps.
Now the phone is freezing and rebooting itself constantly. Out of control. I am in safe mode right now and hasn't frozen yet. I don't know what the hell is going on.
Would love to be able to fix this issue myself without having to do return shipping. I have contacted the seller already though.
If it doesn't freeze or reboot at all in safe mode that usually means an app that you downloaded is causing the problem. The normal thing to try would be to factory reset the phone, download one app and see if there are problems. If the phone seems to be fine download a second app and use the phone long enough to see if the phone is stable. If it seems fine download a third app and do the same.
That's obviously very time consuming and if you were running a phone with heavily modded code like OnePlus with Oxygen it would probably be worth the investment of time. But this phone runs stock Android. Unless you are installing something unusual that might cause stability issues what you are describing sounds like a hardware problem. You might have bad memory for example and not enough is going on when the phone is in safe mode to trigger the unstable behavior.
I think returning or exchanging the phone you bought is definitely your best course of action. I really like this phone but it sounds like yours is defective or damaged.
The only other thing that comes to mind is that sometimes if you own more than one phone the Play Store will show apps that aren't compatible with the phone you are actually using. Dialers, messaging apps, camera apps and music players made for a specific phone brand aren't usually compatible with other brands because they need modded framework to function properly. Some apps that definitely are not compatible with this phone do show up in my Play Store Library available for download. Is it possible you are downloading an incompatible app?
I factory reset and haven't installed a single app. Just updated everything that was stock with the phone after reset. I was thinking faulty ram too, seems like it is.
Yeah I guess it's toast. Last night while watching YouTube it froze. Screen scrambled with artifacts and the phone made a loud continuous howling sound like an emergency alert. I honestly thought it was an emergency alert until I saw the artifacting.
Unless someone here can possibly give me an idea of any other reason it could be displaying this behavior I guess I have no choice but to return it?
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Yeah I guess it's toast. Last night while watching YouTube it froze. Screen scrambled with artifacts and the phone made a loud continuous howling sound like an emergency alert. I honestly thought it was an emergency alert until I saw the artifacting.
Unless someone here can possibly give me an idea of any other reason it could be displaying this behavior I guess I have no choice but to return it?
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Grab a BTS zip from the back to stock thread... And flash that...
I'll bet however it was updated had some yuck in it...
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Yeah I guess it's toast. Last night while watching YouTube it froze. Screen scrambled with artifacts and the phone made a loud continuous howling sound like an emergency alert. I honestly thought it was an emergency alert until I saw the artifacting.
Unless someone here can possibly give me an idea of any other reason it could be displaying this behavior I guess I have no choice but to return it?
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Someone in the Essential stock ROM dump thread just described the exact same behavior that you are experiencing. He hopes reflashing stock will fix it but since it's identical to what's happening with your phone I think he's going to end up disappointed. You might want to check out his post and see if he has any luck. It was the latest post in the thread so it should be easy to find.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/essential-phone/development/stock-7-1-1-nmj20d-t3701681/page41
Yeah that was me. Trying to get information on the procedure to manually reflash this phone with stock firmware. I shouldn't need to unlock bootloader to do it? Just trying to flash stock over stock to hopefully correct any os corruption. Also mine is apparently a unlocked Sprint variant even though it was advertised as being a normal unlocked variant. Not sure if the firmware from that thread will work for me.
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Yeah that was me. Trying to get information on the procedure to manually reflash this phone with stock firmware. I shouldn't need to unlock bootloader to do it? Just trying to flash stock over stock to hopefully correct any os corruption. Also mine is apparently a unlocked Sprint variant even though it was advertised as being a normal unlocked variant. Not sure if the firmware from that thread will work for me.
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Sorry I didn't notice that. I haven't done any flashing on this phone but I know I read that people with the Sprint phones were flashing the regular stock image to get rid of the Sprint apps and get updates from Essential rather than Sprint. But if you don't want to unlock your bootloader you can download official factory images from the Essential website and sideload using a computer. Flashing instructions are on the download site.
https://www.essential.com/developer/current-builds
Alright I reflashed the latest firmware from essential page via adb sideload. I highly dout it worked but I'll see.
What would I need to do from here to do a complete fresh reflash completely overrighting any trace of the old os? I still want to keep it stock but doesn't matter if I need to unlock the bootloader. Just want a complete wipe of the old os and fresh reflash to be sure any traces of corruption are removed to be sure if it's a hardware issue.
That's easy on single partition phones but much more difficult on phones with an A & B partition like the PH-1. You definitely need to unlock the bootloader. On my Pixel XL you needed to flash the factory image separately to partitions A & B to ensure there was nothing left from before but the procedure might be different on this phone. I went through the flashing instructions when I got this phone and think if you flash the full restore stock image it supposedly returns both partitions to stock automatically but that definitely didn't happen on the Pixel. Considering that this phone is supposed to be easy to hard brick (which was virtually impossible on the Pixel) I wouldn't chance it unless you can't return or exchange the phone from the seller.
Well side loading the ota from essential website didn't work. I'd say it's already hard bricked. Still crashing after a while of using it. Last night I loaded as many apps at one time as I could. Got maybe 10 opened at once before it crashed. Seems like faulty ram to me.
Wife just had it happen on her new White one twice today while playing Pokemon GO.
She says she also had her podcast app and hangouts open but minimized and not being actively used in the background.
She's on a fresh install of Oreo 8.1 with the Gcam mod by MGC_5.1.018_Urikill_vXXII.apk using the settings suggested by aer0zer0
Anyhow I hope its just a completely random fluke and not a serious issue as I have a new black one from Amazon in the mail and would really hate to have to return these otherwise wonderful devices.
Mine ain't no fluke. After it crashes if I immediately reboot it instantly crashes again. I have to let it sit a while turned off and reboot again to any significant time before crashing. Longest time it's ran before crashing since having it it's maybe an hour. Didn't notice it much at first because I didn't use it more than a few minutes at a time. So it was in sleep mode constantly crashing and rebooting. Now that I have been watching it more it just constantly keeps rebooting even while sitting idle. I'll glance over at my phone and low and behold it's rebooting again.
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Mine ain't no fluke. After it crashes if I immediately reboot it instantly crashes again. I have to let it sit a while turned off and reboot again to any significant time before crashing. Longest time it's ran before crashing since having it it's maybe an hour. Didn't notice it much at first because I didn't use it more than a few minutes at a time. So it was in sleep mode constantly crashing and rebooting. Now that I have been watching it more it just constantly keeps rebooting even while sitting idle. I'll glance over at my phone and low and behold it's rebooting again.
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Ouch okay that most certainly sounds like a bad hardware issue as you suspected earlier.
Thankfully in her case the reboots were well apart from one another and the phone was fine after the reboot. Even let her play PKGO.
I mostly came in to comment to hopefully help by voicing that it had happened and the circumstances in which it did for her with the idea it might pinpoint some flaw in the overall system if there was one.
My S10+ becomes super lagging and sometimes freezing after newest fw upgrade (G975FXXU1ASE5) on May 22. Anyone having the same problem?
First thing i'd try if it was mine, if you haven't already, is a factory reset. Between Googles backup and Samsungs backup you can get it pretty much back the way you had it before resetting. I always make sure to do a fresh backup using both Google and Samsung first. Then Factory reset. Full restore using google when system asks which backup you want to use, use the latest one you just made of course, then restart and do the Samsung restore through Samsung cloud on top of Googles. I usually get all apps and Data restored without missing much. Home screens and widgets are restored. It's almost like i didn't do a reset at all. If it's still Laggy, then factory reset again and don't restore it. See how it works then. That way you're not restoring any App or setting that could've been causing your issue. It looks like you've been around here about 10 years so this all may be nothing new to you, but this is how i would do it.
Factory reset doesn't seem to help according to reports about rhis update.
Okay well flash in Odin and use CSC to perform a full wipe on the device... See if you still have the same issue. Consider Frija or Samfirm
People report it's something to do with the WiFi drivers, try switching it off and use mobile data to see if it persists
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First thing i'd try if it was mine, if you haven't already, is a factory reset. Between Googles backup and Samsungs backup you can get it pretty much back the way you had it before resetting. I always make sure to do a fresh backup using both Google and Samsung first. Then Factory reset. Full restore using google when system asks which backup you want to use, use the latest one you just made of course, then restart and do the Samsung restore through Samsung cloud on top of Googles. I usually get all apps and Data restored without missing much. Home screens and widgets are restored. It's almost like i didn't do a reset at all. If it's still Laggy, then factory reset again and don't restore it. See how it works then. That way you're not restoring any App or setting that could've been causing your issue. It looks like you've been around here about 10 years so this all may be nothing new to you, but this is how i would do it.
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i dont really want to use the factory reset option because you wont know which app causing the problem.
im trying disabling app by app. so far i guess theres also something wrong with the fingerprint driver. i have a feeling the lagging always starts with fingerprint then it causes the whole system lagging and freezing.
maybe the optimize battery usage feature is way too aggressive? it freezes the fingerprint service while system tries to wake it up then it causes an endless loop and end up with a memory leak?? just blindly guessing so pls correct me if am wrong.
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My S10+ becomes super lagging and sometimes freezing after newest fw upgrade (G975FXXU1ASE5) on May 22. Anyone having the same problem?
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Workaround for this is to switch off WiFi as there is some problems with the WiFi certificates.
Use Mobile data for the internet connection and you will not face any laggyness or issues.
I have already talked about this issues, https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/update-exynos-model-bugs-t3934200
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People report it's something to do with the WiFi drivers, try switching it off and use mobile data to see if it persists
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Workaround for this is to switch off WiFi as there is some problems with the WiFi certificates.
Use Mobile data for the internet connection and you will not face any laggyness or issues.
I have already talked about this issues, https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/help/update-exynos-model-bugs-t3934200
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Thanks all!! Looks like disabling wifi works. but i still need to disable fingerprint unlock too as like i said its causing too much laggggggg.
Using for 2 days wifi all the time, and zero issues, phone faster than ever.
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Using for 2 days wifi all the time, and zero issues, phone faster than ever.
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can you try leaving wifi on but not using wifi (not connect to any networks) and leave it for some time.? i think it has something to do with wifi when its not in use.
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can you try leaving wifi on but not using wifi (not connect to any networks) and leave it for some time.? i think it has something to do with wifi when its not in use.
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It was like that plenty of time, just for test i forgot my work wifi network and 3 hours passes and still works perfect.
BTW people with problem, do you remember in developer options if there was before this update option to enable hardware acceleration for modem?
Could you for test try disable that option and reboot phone, or enable if it was disabled...just a hunch..
I had troubles with google app not responding at all and whole system became extremely laggy. Disabling bixby all together fixed problem. Now phone feels smooth and responsive even battery life has improved.
I ve read on sammobile that a new update rolls out to fix the bugs. So you better check for OTA. I am still on april
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I ve read on sammobile that a new update rolls out to fix the bugs. So you better check for OTA. I am still on april
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Samsung need sort there **** out , Switzerland was first to get may update they are the first to get the supposedly fixed ASE6
And if all is good will hopefully roll out further, UK BTU on ASD6 April secueity looks like may update in June then [emoji1787][emoji849]
Looking forward to the improved night mode with ultra wide angle
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the new fw (AES6) rolls out to my phone today. and looks like they got it fixed. no more lag & freeze so far.
I was hesitant about applying the new update for the May patch because of all the issues everybody with reporting. I've had this update applied for about 4 hours now and so far there's no issues at all. I wonder if it's affecting every device or just a few. Anyone know if the updated fix has rolled out to unlocked Canadian devices?