Hello everyone, first post so please go easy on me.
I have an accord 7th gen with dual A/C and I'm on the fence between a couple of android head units.
1. Klyde unit with a Rockchip PX5 Cortex A53, 8-core and 2G DDR3, and 32GB ROM running Android 6.0.1
or
2. a generic brand unit with a R16 1.6 GHz Quad-core CPU, Mali-400MP4 Quad-core GPU, 2G DDR3, and 32GB ROM running Android 6.0.1
To be honest, pretty sure both units are going to end up being manufactured by same company, guess I am mostly wondering if the processors will make a big difference in everyday performance? this will be replacing my stock radio.
Also to consider is that the quad core will end up costing around $282, but seller is a bit iffy and 8-core processor will cost $450 but seller has a much better reputation.
Thanks!
Does anyone help here anymore or is this basically a dead site for head units ?
Sorry if this has been discussed somewhere, but I cant seem to find anything..
I've seen quite a few of these units that have 4 gb of Ram. I'm assuming extra Ram is helpful for any lag that these units generally experience?
For example, this unit from XTRONS website
Why isnt 4gb as popular as the 2gb I'm seeing? what am i missing?
Does anyone have one of these units and can they confirm if the extra Ram makes a huge difference?
Thanks,
It's news
there is a topic about news device (dasaita) with 4Go Ram :
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...aita-32g-rom-4g-ram-android-8-0-wait-t3702024
I don't know if 4Go ram make a difference,
I Think it's the Soc (PX5(8x Cortex A53)>PX3>RK3188 etc.... )
(there are 8" and 9" with 4GB RAM :
http://xtrons.com/pe86m211pl-8-hd-o...-car-stereo-custom-fit-for-mercedes-benz.html
http://xtrons.com/pe96mtvpl-9-hd-oc...-car-stereo-custom-fit-for-vw-seat-skoda.html
essarr427 said:
Sorry if this has been discussed somewhere, but I cant seem to find anything..
I've seen quite a few of these units that have 4 gb of Ram. I'm assuming extra Ram is helpful for any lag that these units generally experience?
For example, this unit from XTRONS website
Why isnt 4gb as popular as the 2gb I'm seeing? what am i missing?
Does anyone have one of these units and can they confirm if the extra Ram makes a huge difference?
Thanks,
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Maybe not a huge difference, but it is noticeable. The 2GB units have occasional audio stutter, which is entirely gone with 4GB (unless this is a coincidence and related to the ROM or MCU). The only remaining audio artifact is an infrequent glitch of a fraction of a second when switching between apps (but I haven't noticed it at all the last couple of days). I have never experienced a "lag" on the 4GB. I don't remember if this was an issue or not on the 2GB. And on the 2GB I tried to update apps while navigating with Google Maps; the navigation crashed and my guess is it ran out of memory. I suppose the 4GB are less popular because they are new and not available in all car specific models.
I see, thanks for the info.. I guess it hasn't taken off yet
Just noticed them showing up for the BMW E46 - looks like they were posted very recently
Does anyone know why Android 7.1 seems to be only offered with the PX3 chips, while the PX5 chips only seem to have Android 6.0 ? What's holding it back?
For example, this listing
- Octa-Core 1.6GMHz CPU, DDR3 4GB RAM, 32 GB ROM for Android 6.0 ;
- Quad Core 1.6GMHZ CPU DDR3 2G RAM +16G ROM for Android 7.1
Why cant the more powerful chip get Android 7.1 ?
Eonon
essarr427 said:
I see, thanks for the info.. I guess it hasn't taken off yet
Just noticed them showing up for the BMW E46 - looks like they were posted very recently
Does anyone know why Android 7.1 seems to be only offered with the PX3 chips, while the PX5 chips only seem to have Android 6.0 ? What's holding it back?
For example, this listing
- Octa-Core 1.6GMHz CPU, DDR3 4GB RAM, 32 GB ROM for Android 6.0 ;
- Quad Core 1.6GMHZ CPU DDR3 2G RAM +16G ROM for Android 7.1
Why cant the more powerful chip get Android 7.1 ?
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Eonon is the only one that has started selling it
https://www.eonon.com/Android-Car-GPS/Vehicle-Specific-GPS/BMW-E46-Android-71-Octa-Core-2GB-RAM-Car-Radio-GPS-Navigation-System-7-Inch-1-Din-Multimedia-Car-DVD-CD-Player.html
perern said:
Eonon is the only one that has started selling it
https://www.eonon.com/Android-Car-GPS/Vehicle-Specific-GPS/BMW-E46-Android-71-Octa-Core-2GB-RAM-Car-Radio-GPS-Navigation-System-7-Inch-1-Din-Multimedia-Car-DVD-CD-Player.html
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is not PX5!
T8
Scipy10 said:
is not PX5!
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It's Allwinner T8, better than PX5 and PX3
perern said:
It's Allwinner T8, better than PX5 and PX3
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mmm really ?
I think it's PX3<T8<PX5
PX5 is Cortex A53 better at same clock than Cortex A7(old) (T8)
PX5 :
8 x Cortex A53 up to 1.5ghz
PX3 :
4 X Cortex A9
T8 :
8 x Cortex A7 (@ 1.6GHz, up to 1.8GHz)
And T8 GPU is old : PowerVR SGX544MP1 GPU (almost old like RK3188 )
whereas the PX5 GPU : PowerVR SGX6110
Antutu benchmark comparison:
PX3:
Overall: 27808
3d: 1220
UX: 13079
CPU: 10293
RAM: 3216
PX5:
Overall: 39047
3d: 9019
UX: 13397
CPU: 12768
RAM: 3863
antutu benchmark of T8 ? ~22500 ...
mum1989 said:
mmm really ?
I think it's PX3<T8<PX5
PX5 is Cortex A53 better at same clock than Cortex A7(old) (T8)
PX5 :
8 x Cortex A53 up to 1.5ghz
PX3 :
4 X Cortex A9
T8 :
8 x Cortex A7 (@ 1.6GHz, up to 1.8GHz)
And T8 GPU is old : PowerVR SGX544MP1 GPU (almost old like RK3188 )
whereas the PX5 GPU : PowerVR SGX6110
Antutu benchmark comparison:
PX3:
Overall: 27808
3d: 1220
UX: 13079
CPU: 10293
RAM: 3216
PX5:
Overall: 39047
3d: 9019
UX: 13397
CPU: 12768
RAM: 3863
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T8 - SGX544 = 44,8 Gflops
PX5 - SGX6110 = 38,4 Gflops.
They're both 28nm so there's practically no difference in heating, the T8 is used for tablets too. Also software has some say on performance, https://youtu.be/LWVPuKsdkGE
PX5, 4Go RAM unit and Android 8.0 are here ! :
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholes...8.0&pvId=200009155-8177&attrRel=or&isrefine=y
mum1989 said:
PX5, 4Go RAM unit and Android 8.0 are here ! :
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholes...8.0&pvId=200009155-8177&attrRel=or&isrefine=y
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Ordered one if these and seller said ships with 6.0, will send 8.0 when a little bug is fixed.
Received it today and appears it actually is Android 8.0 Oreo. I will post if I discover anything interesting about it.
Please post your impressions. My N7 setup is really slowing down and this unit looks promising on paper!
mum1989 said:
PX5, 4Go RAM unit and Android 8.0 are here ! :
https://www.aliexpress.com/w/wholes...8.0&pvId=200009155-8177&attrRel=or&isrefine=y
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Thanks for the heads up mum1989!
Ordered the coika 7 " universal and I'm very happy with it. I too was told it was going to come with android 6.0 but it arrived with android 8.0 and with the interface shown. I can also confirm that EazyConnection and mirror link worked on both usb and wifi with a Note 8. Downloading a few apps and will get more into it later in the week.
golgothan said:
Thanks for the heads up mum1989!
Ordered the coika 7 " universal and I'm very happy with it. I too was told it was going to come with android 6.0 but it arrived with android 8.0 and with the interface shown. I can also confirm that EazyConnection and mirror link worked on both usb and wifi with a Note 8. Downloading a few apps and will get more into it later in the week.
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this device ? :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/7-O...r-Stereo-With-4G-RAM-32G-ROM/32846366287.html
oh great
no bug at this moment ?
what is your MCU ? (MCU (which you need) can be found in Settings - About tablet - 3rd line where there is a word MCU.
(example MTCD- xxxxxx )
thanks
golgothan said:
Thanks for the heads up mum1989!
Ordered the coika 7 " universal and I'm very happy with it. I too was told it was going to come with android 6.0 but it arrived with android 8.0 and with the interface shown. I can also confirm that EazyConnection and mirror link worked on both usb and wifi with a Note 8. Downloading a few apps and will get more into it later in the week.
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mum1989 said:
this device ? :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/7-O...r-Stereo-With-4G-RAM-32G-ROM/32846366287.html
oh great
no bug at this moment ?
what is your MCU ? (MCU (which you need) can be found in Settings - About tablet - 3rd line where there is a word MCU.
(example MTCD- xxxxxx )
thanks
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Keep us posted! I am interesting in swapping out my Joying for one of those also.
Any chance you could review the unit? Would like to hear your thoughts before pulling the trigger.
mum1989 said:
this device ? :
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/7-O...r-Stereo-With-4G-RAM-32G-ROM/32846366287.html
oh great
no bug at this moment ?
what is your MCU ? (MCU (which you need) can be found in Settings - About tablet - 3rd line where there is a word MCU.
(example MTCD- xxxxxx )
thanks
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finaly i buy this unit
https://fr.aliexpress.com/item/7-Oc...e-Din-Voiture-St-r-o-Avec-4G/32846366287.html
And it's an MTCE_GS
And it's a lot, lot faster than my crap C200 (5.1) (waze,keyboard run fast, no lag)
I will review a little in few days
Those are NOT Android 8. The UI is a dead and instant giveaway. Android 8 has a ton of new CAR stuff in it, and it looks RADICALLY different than anything earlier.
I just ordered the xtrons te706pl which shows px5 with 4gb ram and android 8.0. I got it off Amazon for $269.99 with free shipping. I was going to go with joying as it's seems to be the most popular company but 4gb vs 2gb is just to good to pass up. I have 2 tablets with the same Cpu, one has 2gb and the other is a 4gb. The 4gb is so much faster and more stable. 4gb just gives the tablet an easier time it seems.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B079...236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=xtrons+te706pl
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Those are NOT Android 8. The UI is a dead and instant giveaway. Android 8 has a ton of new CAR stuff in it, and it looks RADICALLY different than anything earlier.
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Hi, last year i have bought HU with following specification:
SYSTEM (Android 6.0.1) 1GB/16GB
Allwinner QUAD-CORE T3 p3,
Mali-400MP2 .
Unfortunatelly it turns out horribly slow - I have rooted it and tried to speed it up, but without success.
Now I'm considering to buy another one (cheap), I need HU to normal use (google maps + music app + radar warning application) .
Here are my selections:
Android 8.1 1GB/16GB
quad-core T3 K2001M
GPU: Mali-600MP4
Android 8.1 1GB/16GB
quad-core MT8227L "1.3-1.5"
GPU: Mali-600MP4
Most units which I'm interested have these two processors some have also 2GB RAM. Which is better selection? Maybe i should choose someting with 8-core or 2GB ram?
Regards.
The processor is not the only thing that affects the speed, the amount of RAM matters too. Everything you listed has a gig of RAM, that is just too low for today's Android with all the services running in the background. Look for something with at least 2 GB, 4 would be better. The processors you're looking at are no powerhouses either. First they're all 32 bit and very obsolete. Also Allwinner is barely a decent processor for the money. Something from Rockchip or Intel would cost a bit more but you'd get more enjoyment out of it. If you have to keep it cheap maybe a PX30 with at least 2 GB RAM would be a good choice.
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If you have to keep it cheap maybe a PX30 with at least 2 GB RAM would be a good choice.
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The man is completely right. Nothing with 1GB will perform.
2GB is enough. 4 GB is better.
I agree that 1GB is not enough for todays Android, but this is still car device, not phone. I don't really want to spend lot of money . How about this ?
OS: Android 8.1 Go 1GB/16GB
CPU: Intel 8-core 1.872GHz Intel IA processor
GPU: with Mali-T820 8-core GPU
OS: Android 8.1 2GB/32GB (i think they will be able to install GO version too.)
CPU: High quality MT8227L Quad-core 1.3-1.5 GHz Cortex-A7 processor
GPU: with Mali-600MP4 Quad-core GPU
both fit to my limit 150 $ .
spewaq said:
I agree that 1GB is not enough for todays Android, but this is still car device, not phone. I don't really want to spend lot of money . How about this ?
OS: Android 8.1 Go 1GB/16GB
CPU: Intel 8-core 1.872GHz Intel IA processor
GPU: with Mali-T820 8-core GPU
OS: Android 8.1 2GB/32GB (i think they will be able to install GO version too.)
CPU: High quality MT8227L Quad-core 1.3-1.5 GHz Cortex-A7 processor
GPU: with Mali-600MP4 Quad-core GPU
both fit to my limit 150 $ .
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a bit stubborn? The first is 1GB. If 2 persons advise to go for at least 2GB: what more advise do you need? If you had searched this forum in advance, you would have seen that everybody advises against 1 GB.
choose and suffer, or choose and enjoy.
That's a really low budget. A $150 will buy you a nice Pioneer or Kenwood traditional stereo or if you want more features get a cheapie Dual or other low end brand. At any rate you will enjoy your choice better then. Those Chinese Android radios have always been a bit of a kludge. It's only in the last couple years that they've been getting almost decent and that's from having a proper amount of RAM and better processors. The one thing that hasn't improved is build quality, they work ok but there's no telling for how long. OTH they're a lot of fun if you can afford it.
The second option you listed is definitely low end but might work good enough. Like Surfer63 said do your research! Don't expect someone else to tell you what to buy. For that HU you can start here. On that first page there's a link to 4PDA too.
Believe me 150$ for car radio is quite a lot in my country To be honest initially I thought 100$ will be enough for my modest needs... I know 4pda I have studied most topics regarding Allwinner and partially this mentioned above . I have some experience with such devices (with 1) I could try to flash it but I have no time for that. In the mean time I have found that there are HU which are fitted to car steering panel better than universal one so decided to buy another. I did not expect that someone tell me what should I buy, however all yours remarks are very valuable for me. Ok I'll read a bit more and buy something, and maybe give some feedback.
hello, i want to buy a new radio, it may cost 300 euro should i buy a px5 or px6 ? it git so many, one can recommend me one ? i have found 3 pieces so far
1.JOYING Double 2 DIN Maps 4GB+64GB CPU Processor: SC-9853i 1,8 GHz Octa-core
2.Xtrons HEXA Core processor; 2+4 Core big.LITTLE architecture; 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM PX6
3rd Erisin ES8049U 7" ISP Display, DSP Sound, 8 Core PX5 Rockchip
Bluetooth 5 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM the erisin is the cheapest and has the best equipment but what about the quality ? does anyone already have this radio ?? for tips i am grateful
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Dudu37 said:
hello, i want to buy a new radio, it may cost 300 euro should i buy a px5 or px6 ? it git so many, one can recommend me one ? i have found 3 pieces so far
1.JOYING Double 2 DIN Maps 4GB+64GB CPU Processor: SC-9853i 1,8 GHz Octa-core
2.Xtrons HEXA Core processor; 2+4 Core big.LITTLE architecture; 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM PX6
3rd Erisin ES8049U 7" ISP Display, DSP Sound, 8 Core PX5 Rockchip
Bluetooth 5 4GB RAM, 64GB ROM the erisin is the cheapest and has the best equipment but what about the quality ? does anyone already have this radio ?? for tips i am grateful
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Xtrons Double DIN | Android 9.0 | Hexa Core | 4GB RAM & 64GB ROM | TQ109P
Great upgrade from my Xtrons TE103AP.
Has dvd player above the physical buttons which are located at the bottom of the unit. Display slides down to cover buttons if you want it too and also tilts forward or back depending on how you like it.
Sent from my VOG-L29 using Tapatalk
I can't find much info on the web about the GA2180A (Android 10, CPU: MTK 8227L 1.2GHz ARM A7 Quad Core, RAM: 2GB, ROM: 32GB) but it has CarPlay built in which is good so I don't need to buy a separate dongle - does anyone have this unit and think it's ok as I am thinking of buying.
I could alternatively get the Eonon GA2186 which has a faster chip (Android 10, CPU: Rockchip PX30 1.5GH Cortex A35 Quad Core; RAM: 2GB; ROM: 32GB) but without CarPlay, so would need to add the extra cost for the dongle, i'm not sure if it is worth it .
Going by the above specs how much faster/better would you think the GA2186 unit would be than the GA2180A ?
Or presumably an Xtrons with a car play dongle would be reasonably faster and still cheaper than both of the above
XTRONS 7" Android 10 Double Din Car Stereo Bluetooth, PX5 Octa Core, 4GB RAM, 32GB RAM
Thanks