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The new Device Protection features of Android 5.1 on the Nexus 9 and Nexus 6 can, in certain cases, cause you to have a bootloader which can not be unlocked.
Please have a read of the following links:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6172890?hl=en
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/update-to-5-1-lock-bootloader-t3058480
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/relock-bootloader-time-updating-to-5-1-t3053497
What a pita
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i would never relock my bootloader
people unlock there bootloader for a reason
but to relock it after thats just wrong...
thats one of the things i hate about CM
they recommend you to relock your bootloader...
Agreed, why would you lock your bootloader unless sending in for repairs maybe?
But Google is really messing up the flow. The nexus 6 5.1 OTA is a mess right now but I will leave that for another thread.
Android 5.1 for Nexus 9? You must be joking.
So, I just purchased a Nexus 9 via the 4-hour online-only sale at Best Buy. It was $100 off, couldn't pass it up. My question is: is this likely going to be shipped in such a condition as to prevent me from permanently unlocking the bootloader? Or is a permanent lock something one must deliberately do?
disturbd1 said:
So, I just purchased a Nexus 9 via the 4-hour online-only sale at Best Buy. It was $100 off, couldn't pass it up. My question is: is this likely going to be shipped in such a condition as to prevent me from permanently unlocking the bootloader? Or is a permanent lock something one must deliberately do?
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No no you can still unlock it
But if you relock it that's the problem
disturbd1 said:
So, I just purchased a Nexus 9 via the 4-hour online-only sale at Best Buy. It was $100 off, couldn't pass it up. My question is: is this likely going to be shipped in such a condition as to prevent me from permanently unlocking the bootloader? Or is a permanent lock something one must deliberately do?
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As USBhost said, you'll be able to unlock it. However, when you are first setting it up and are running through the set-up wizard, there will be an option to "Protect Device" or something like that. If you enable it, and re-lock the bootloader, it will put you in a situation where you can only unlock the booloader in certain situations -- and if you happen to have a bootloop with a locked bootloader, that's when you are in trouble.
EDIT: On Nexus devices, I personally unlock the bootloader as soon as I take it out of the box, without first booting into Android, and then leave it unlocked. But of course, you give up some security by doing that.
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As USBhost said, you'll be able to unlock it. However, when you are first setting it up and are running through the set-up wizard, there will be an option to "Protect Device" or something like that. If you enable it, and re-lock the bootloader, it will put you in a situation where you can only unlock the booloader in certain situations -- and if you happen to have a bootloop with a locked bootloader, that's when you are in trouble.
EDIT: On Nexus devices, I personally unlock the bootloader as soon as I take it out of the box, without first booting into Android, and then leave it unlocked. But of course, you give up some security by doing that.
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Considering this is a tablet, hopefully I won't lose or misplace it
Thanks, guys! Glad I stumbled across this thread before the thing arrived.
Locking the bootloader doesn't protect you from anything. If the device leaves your physical control in a potentially hostile environment, whatever is on the system or boot partition becomes suspect, regardless of whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked.
doitright said:
Locking the bootloader doesn't protect you from anything. If the device leaves your physical control in a potentially hostile environment, whatever is on the system or boot partition becomes suspect, regardless of whether the bootloader is locked or unlocked.
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Example: I have a device running a stock ROM with no encryption, the stock recovery and a lock screen password. I happen to lose my phone. What happens to the photos of me dancing to Old Time Rock & Roll in my underwear that are stored on the device? If the bootloader is unlocked, someone just plugs it into a PC, boots TWRP and pulls them off. If the bootloader is locked, there is no easy way to see or get the photos off the device.
That is all I was saying about security. Nothing to do with you leaving your device somewhere or losing it, and then finding it again. Strictly about the personal content on the device.
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EDIT: On Nexus devices, I personally unlock the bootloader as soon as I take it out of the box, without first booting into Android, and then leave it unlocked. But of course, you give up some security by doing that.
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I thought Lollipop always requires you to go in and check the Enable OEM Unlock box? Or is that not true if you never booted into Android even once?
bailyc said:
I thought Lollipop always requires you to go in and check the Enable OEM Unlock box? Or is that not true if you never booted into Android even once?
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If you have never booted into Android, then you don't need to check that setting. As I said, that's the way I did it on my N6: take out of box -> charge -> boot directly into bootloader -> "fastboot oem unlock". No other steps required if you don't boot into Android first.
can i use this guide for safely relock my Bl on Nexus 9 ..... Relocking coz of RMA and warranty purpose as bought from amazon India instead of Play Store
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-safely-lock-bootloader-android-5-1-t3067302
lilliput222 said:
can i use this guide for safely relock my Bl on Nexus 9 ..... Relocking coz of RMA and warranty purpose as bought from amazon India instead of Play Store
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/guide-safely-lock-bootloader-android-5-1-t3067302
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Yes, that should work for the N9 as well.
The bootloader on my Nexus 9 Android 5.1.1 is locked forever due to my mistake
Short backstory:
- I wanted to install the Android M developer Preview for the Nexus 9 but I forgot to check "Enable OEM unlock" in developer options (worst mistake).
- I used adb command to flash the new image but failed somehow
- I carelessly type # fastboot oem lock
- I tried to factory reset from bootloader to bring it back to Stock. Now it couldn't factory reset and my Nexus 9 hangs in a nice boot loop.
- I try # fastboot oem unlock but failed with permission denied error
I tried some ways to save my device but no hopes
- I used Nexus Root Tookit to unlock bootloader or restore image with force mode but failed,
- I follow instruction in HTC dev forum to get identifier token in order to receive your unlock code binary file but failed
- Unluckily, I don't installed any custom recovery.
Please help if you know a way unlock the bootloader or flash the factory ROM to save the nexus 9
quekl84 said:
Please help if you know a way unlock the bootloader or flash the factory ROM to save the nexus 9
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Not possible. You will have to return it to HTC for repair or replacement.
quekl84 said:
Short backstory:
- I wanted to install the Android M developer Preview for the Nexus 9 but I forgot to uncheck "Enable OEM unlock" in developer options (worst mistake).
- I used adb command to flash the new image but failed somehow
- I carelessly type # fastboot oem lock
- I tried to factory reset from bootloader to bring it back to Stock. Now it couldn't factory reset and my Nexus 9 hangs in a nice boot loop.
- I try # fastboot oem unlock but failed with permission denied error
I tried some ways to save my device but no hopes
- I used Nexus Root Tookit to unlock bootloader or restore image with force mode but failed,
- I follow instruction in HTC dev forum to get identifier token in order to receive your unlock code binary file but failed
- Unluckily, I don't installed any custom recovery.
Please help if you know a way unlock the bootloader or flash the factory ROM to save the nexus 9
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u mean u forgot to CHECK to box to allow oem UNLOCK? im confused lol
cobyman7035 said:
u mean u forgot to CHECK to box to allow oem UNLOCK? im confused lol
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Yes, I forgot to check the box to allow oem UNLOCK. And now my device is locked forever.
A quick question: A lot of N9 ROMs require flashing an updated bootloader from the factory image. Aren't these bootloaders locked by default? Can we flash a factory bootloader over a custom ROM?
It seems that we might bork our Nexus 9s if we flash a locked bootloader in.
This guide is for the safe procedure for re-locking your bootloader with the new security features of Android 5.1 on the Nexus 6
The purpose of re-locking your bootloader should solely be used for RMA or resale of your device. Also if you have flashed a factory image and want the added security of a locked bootloader. Or possibly it is required by your employer. If you're required by your employer, then I suggest you reconsider unlocking in the first place. If you're returning to stock, to simply fix problems on your device, then I also strongly suggest leaving the bootloader unlocked. To put it in simple terms, if you want to keep a custom recovery and ROM, mod, root, etc, then leave your bootloader unlocked. Re-locking the bootloader on the Nexus 6 will cause your device to be wiped.
Please read this post by @efrant for more clarification:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=60128929
Thanks @efrant @cam30era @rootSU @clairez for collaboration and advice.
This is based on a 100% stock, encrypted, un-modded Nexus 6
Due to significant security changes in Android 5.1, there are some specific steps that must be taken in order to safely re-lock your bootloader during and after installing a factory image.
WARNING! These steps are confirmed working but there is still risk involved. If you do not ABSOLUTELY need to re-lock then I strongly suggest leaving the bootloader unlocked.
FOLLOWING THESE STEPS WILL WIPE YOUR DEVICE SO BACKUP YOUR DATA!
This is based on you (the user) having already read and followed instructions on downloading the factory image and having it ready to install.
STEP 1
Disable all security locks on your phone.
On your phone, go into your settings, click Security. In Screen security, click on Screen lock, enter your passcode/pin/pattern then select none.
You will get a prompt that Device protection features will no longer work. Click OK.
STEP 2
**OPTIONAL**
Thanks @gee2012
This step is optional because successful installation of the factory image will remove this info anyway.
Remove your Google account.
In settings, click Accounts, click Google then click on your account name. (your gmail address)
Click the 3 dot menu button in top right of screen and select Remove account. You will get a prompt That this will delete all messages, contacts and other data from your phone. Click REMOVE ACCOUNT.
STEP 3
This step is optional and may or may not be needed but I recommend doing this.
Preform a factory reset from your phone settings.
Open settings and click on Backup & reset. Click Factory data reset.
You will receive a prompt stating that this will erase all data from your phone's internal storage, click RESET PHONE.
The reset takes quite a while to complete, approximately 10 to 15 or more minutes for a 32gb model and 20 minutes or more for a 64gb model, so BE PATIENT!
Your phone will reboot when completed.
STEP 4
IMPORTANT!!
When your phone reboots, you will have to skip all account set up and ABSOLUTELY do not set any security features up. Skip EVERYTHING!
Go to settings and enable Developer options. (About phone>tap build number 7 times)
Once you have developer options enabled, enable USB Debugging and tick the box to allow OEM unlock.
I suggest preforming a reboot here to verify that OEM unlock sticks. After the reboot enter developer options to verify OEM unlock is still ticked.
If it is, we will proceed. If not, ensure you have followed the previous steps correctly. If you have and for some reason the setting won't stick, DO NOT PROCEED OR YOU MAY END UP STUCK IN A BOOT LOOP WITH NO CURRENT WAY TO FIX!
STEP 5
If setting has stuck, you are ready to unlock your bootloader and install the factory image using one of the ways outlined elsewhere in this forum.
After installation is complete, reboot to recovery and again preform a factory reset. Reboot to Android.
STEP 6
IMPORTANT!
Upon completion of factory reset from recovery and reboot to Android, it is important to follow this procedure so you may now safely lock your bootloader.
SKIP ALL ACCOUNT AND SECURITY SET UP AGAIN! Go to settings and enable developer options again. Enable USB debugging and tick allow OEM unlock.
Again, I recommend a reboot at this point to verify the settings stick.
Use the button combo or ADB to reboot to bootloader.
Use the command fastboot oem lock
Your device will wipe again and reboot.
CONGRATULATIONS! You now have a locked bootloader and you may proceed to restore your phone.
See here for info from Google about the new security features:
https://support.google.com/nexus/answer/6172890?hl=en
Thanks @efrant for finding this link.
Thanks also to all of those who helped to confirm this process works consistently.
Thanks to @clairez for this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/update-to-5-1-lock-bootloader-t3058480
*Disclamer*
I am not responsible if your device bricks, loops or causes mass world hysteria.
*How to prepare your Nexus 6 for resale*
Since the onset of Android 5.1, there are some specific steps needed to ensure you can sell your device and not have the seller need your Google password when they receive your device. Please read this guide provided by @PatimusXPrime
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=60455167&postcount=43
TWRP RECOVERY INSTALLED ONLY
The following info is for users who have TWRP installed and are stuck in bootloop (soft brick) after wiping OS with a locked bootloader.
Credit to this thread:
Thanks @ixa20
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3053783
STEP 1
Boot into bootloader.
STEP 2
Use fastboot and issue the commands:
fastboot format userdata
fastboot format cache
This should allow you to boot back into TWRP.
Flash a ROM and get up and running.
Unlock your bootloader and leave it that way.
Thanks also to @rootSU for posting this solution many, MANY times.
I hear a lot about locking the boot loader, but what exactly am I missing out on in terms of security with an unlocked boot loader, and rooted
productofusa said:
I hear a lot about locking the boot loader, but what exactly am I missing out on in terms of security with an unlocked boot loader, and rooted
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I think, primarily, if you are unencrypted you run the risk of your data being compromised if your phone is lost or stolen. Plus, the new security features are not proven to work 100% when bootloader is unlocked. Simply by rooting, you've opened your device to be more vulnerable to malicious attacks. I'm sure you already know that.
Evolution_Freak said:
I think, primarily, if you are unencrypted you run the risk of your data being compromised if your phone is lost or stolen. Plus, the new security features are not proven to work 100% when bootloader is unlocked. Simply by rooting, you've opened your device to be more vulnerable to malicious attacks. I'm sure you already know that.
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I see, nothing I wasn't already aware of! It seems that a significant amount of people that are used to an unlocked rooted handset are quick to jump on the relock the bootloader omg security bandwagon regardless of the consequences. Having said that thanks to folks such as yourself most of the kinks seem to be worked out at this point.
Thanks
Okay, so I'm new to the whole unlocking/flashing thing.... I bought a nexus 6 from Verizon which obviously came with 5.1 out of the box. I was using stock with my google account attached and a pin lock. I successfully unlocked by bootloader and rooted with twrp and the nexus toolkit. I have also since flashed chroma. Am I to understand that I can not ever go back to unrooted stock and locked booloader, now?
I'm really sorry for what is probably a stupid noob question, but I'm really paranoid now. TIA!!
Cannibal Oxen said:
Okay, so I'm new to the whole unlocking/flashing thing.... I bought a nexus 6 from Verizon which obviously came with 5.1 out of the box. I was using stock with my google account attached and a pin lock. I successfully unlocked by bootloader and rooted with twrp and the nexus toolkit. I have also since flashed chroma. Am I to understand that I can not ever go back to unrooted stock and locked booloader, now?
I'm really sorry for what is probably a stupid noob question, but I'm really paranoid now. TIA!!
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The first post explains how to lock the bootloader safely. If you're going g back to stock, simply follow the steps
Cannibal Oxen said:
Okay, so I'm new to the whole unlocking/flashing thing.... I bought a nexus 6 from Verizon which obviously came with 5.1 out of the box. I was using stock with my google account attached and a pin lock. I successfully unlocked by bootloader and rooted with twrp and the nexus toolkit. I have also since flashed chroma. Am I to understand that I can not ever go back to unrooted stock and locked booloader, now?
I'm really sorry for what is probably a stupid noob question, but I'm really paranoid now. TIA!!
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No, not at all. You can flash a factory image and return to stock at anytime. However, if you plan on flashing ROMs again, there's no need to relock the bootloader. For instance, if you wanted to return to stock to say, get an OTA, the bootloader being unlocked wouldn't affect that negatively.
If you did desire to relock, following this guide, as far as disabling the security and Google account, you should be able to relock. The important thing is making sure that pesky "allow OEM unlock" option remains checked after a reboot.
Cannibal Oxen said:
Am I to understand that I can not ever go back to unrooted stock and locked booloader, now?
I'm really sorry for what is probably a stupid noob question, but I'm really paranoid now. TIA!!
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You can go back to stock. And then, subsequently relock the bootloader.
And the question is not "stupid". Noob questions are encouraged here. That's how you learn.
rootSU said:
The first post explains how to lock the bootloader safely. If you're going g back to stock, simply follow the steps
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Fair enough. The part that confused me was the first five steps appear to address steps required to unlock the bootloader. I was afraid since I already unlocked mine without first disabling security and removing my account that it would somehow preclude me from ever being able to relock the bootloader should that need ever arise in the future.
I really appreciate the help!
Yeah, I learned my lesson, DON'T PLAY WITH LOCKED BOOTLOADERS ON THIS DEVICE, EVER!
I had a locked bootloader, and no System (I had wiped it accidentally).
Luckily though I had the sense to keep TWRP installed, but I couldn't boot to it, it was just bootlooping to the TWRP splash screen.
I thought I had just lost a $650 investment, but here's what I did:
Boot to bootloader, then
Code:
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase userdata
Then I could boot to TWRP! So I
Code:
adb push (ChromaOS zip here) /sdcard/
But when I tried to flash the Data and Cache partitions kept giving me errors, I couldn't flash anything!
I went to sleep (or tried to sleep, but couldn't) I was panicking!
When I woke up I tried one more thing:
From bootloader I did
Code:
fastboot format cache
fastboot format userdata
(Notice FORMAT instead of erase!)
I booted into TWRP and was able to flash ChromaOS, I was able to enable OEM Unlock, and flashed the full Factory Image, completely back to stock.
I booted once with unlocked bootloader to verify it was working, then locked it.
If I had the stock recovery, I would've had a $650 paperweight.
DO NOT MESS AROUND WITH LOCKED BOOTLOADERS! DON'T RISK IT!
gorei23 said:
Yeah, I learned my lesson, DON'T PLAY WITH LOCKED BOOTLOADERS ON THIS DEVICE, EVER!
I had a locked bootloader, and no System (I had wiped it accidentally).
Luckily though I had the sense to keep TWRP installed, but I couldn't boot to it, it was just bootlooping to the TWRP splash screen.
I thought I had just lost a $650 investment, but here's what I did:
Boot to bootloader, then
Code:
fastboot erase cache
fastboot erase userdata
Then I could boot to TWRP! So I
Code:
adb push (ChromaOS zip here) /sdcard/
But when I tried to flash the Data and Cache partitions kept giving me errors, I couldn't flash anything!
I went to sleep (or tried to sleep, but couldn't) I was panicking!
When I woke up I tried one more thing:
From bootloader I did
Code:
fastboot format cache
fastboot format userdata
(Notice FORMAT instead of erase!)
I booted into TWRP and was able to flash ChromaOS, I was able to enable OEM Unlock, and flashed the full Factory Image, completely back to stock.
I booted once with unlocked bootloader to verify it was working, then locked it.
If I had the stock recovery, I would've had a $650 paperweight.
DO NOT MESS AROUND WITH LOCKED BOOTLOADERS! DON'T RISK IT!
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With the method I've outlined and personally tried, it can be safely done. The security settings are the issue and a safe way around that has been found.
Evolution_Freak said:
With the method I've outlined and personally tried, it can be safely done. The security settings are the issue and a safe way around that has been found.
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I know, I'm just saying don't play around with it, if you're going to relock make sure that you KNOW it will work.
Can confirm that the outlined info here works flawlessly
I used this process to re-lock my phone after unlocking in the fastboot-enabled upgrade from OTA 5.1 "D" to stock 5.1 "E" an hour ago.
The easy part was unlocking/locking/rebooting in the correct order - the harrowing part was when my fastboot update of the radio failed, after which I figured out it was a transient USB issue with my system, so rebooted Windows and then everything went reasonably close to plan.
So, now I'm on "E" and with a locked bootloader (i.e., stock for Verizon). I'll be experimenting with custom ROMs after settling in with this for a bit, but wanted to test out VoLTE and other things before going the custom route.
Thanks again for this guide.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
I used this process to re-lock my phone after unlocking in the fastboot-enabled upgrade from OTA 5.1 "D" to stock 5.1 "E" an hour ago.
The easy part was unlocking/locking/rebooting in the correct order - the harrowing part was when my fastboot update of the radio failed, after which I figured out it was a transient USB issue with my system, so rebooted Windows and then everything went reasonably close to plan.
So, now I'm on "E" and with a locked bootloader (i.e., stock for Verizon). I'll be experimenting with custom ROMs after settling in with this for a bit, but wanted to test out VoLTE and other things before going the custom route.
Thanks again for this guide.
- ooofest
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Word of caution, don't flash stuff with a locked bootloader. If you get a bad flash and you can't boot, you'll be screwed.
Doesn't the setting in developer optionsto allow OEM unlock of the bootloader reset every boot on the new firmware? I know mine does on meanpop and chroma both 5.1 roms
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pwned3 said:
Doesn't the setting in developer optionsto allow OEM unlock of the bootloader reset every boot on the new firmware? I know mine does on meanpop and chroma both 5.1 roms
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pwned3 said:
Doesn't the setting in developer optionsto allow OEM unlock of the bootloader reset every boot on the new firmware? I know mine does on meanpop and chroma both 5.1 roms
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It does if you have "Device protection" enabled. If you do a factory reset and, while you are running through the set up wizard, do not enable "Device protection", then the " Allow OEM unlock" setting should stick.
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rootSU said:
Word of caution, don't flash stuff with a locked bootloader. If you get a bad flash and you can't boot, you'll be screwed.
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Before attempting to upgrade the stock level or going custom, I was planning to run through at least steps 1-4 again to enable me to safely unlock.
Or, do I only need to tick OEM Unlock, adb into stock recovery and then fastboot oem unlock without going through the suggested factory data reset step?
- ooofest
How do I get the bootloader to relock?I tried fastboot oem lock but it tells me to use fastboot oem lock begin first so I do that and then it says to flash signed image first so I do and then the process starts all over again.I want to relock so I can return the phone but I can't get it to lock,keep getting the run around by my computer
What image are you flashing?
Have you tried Shawn's return to stock tool, in the development section? It doesn't state that it re-locks the bootloader, but it can't hurt to try.
Verified Shawn's return to stock tool does NOT re-lock the bootloader. Just used it cause I soft bricked my device jacking around with Xposed modules.
Has anyone tried the factory XMLs from here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-style/development/stock-stock-firmware-t3201459)?
Even if you lock the bootloader again it will show "relocked" not locked so it's still visible that it was unlocked at some point.
I figured it out,instead of running the .bat file you have to flash 1 by 1 using fastboot.The .bat file will automatically reboot the phone and the locking process can't happen.it doesn't say relocked,just locked status code 2 but the people at Motorola will know the difference but those at best buy won't, I just need to exchange it for another,the volume rocker sticks.I thank all for the replies and the help
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I figured it out,instead of running the .bat file you have to flash 1 by 1 using fastboot.The .bat file will automatically reboot the phone and the locking process can't happen.it doesn't say relocked,just locked status code 2 but the people at Motorola will know the difference but those at best buy won't, I just need to exchange it for another,the volume rocker sticks.I thank all for the replies and the help
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What files need to be manually ran?
I am running into the same issues you were.
I can't get any of the files to flash though.
Thanks
The files a couple posts up will get you back to stock but first you have to type in fastboot OEM lock begin.Then flash all files inside the zip one by one starting with gpt..bin,then boot loader,then the boot.IMG,followed by the rest one by one until you get all of them flashed.Then type fastboot oem lock and it'll give you conformation that it was successful. It'll wipe your data so if you have photos or music you don't want to lose then back it all up.you'll be relocked afterwards.if you need further help p.m. me and I'll be glad to give a hand.Oh,make sure your adb and fastboot is up to date
Thanks for the rundown, ended up getting it. I was running into computer problems seemed to lose connection to my phone. Lots of tries but eventually got it to work.
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Does it take away the start up splash screen with re-locking it?
xdame said:
Does it take away the start up splash screen with re-locking it?
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No you need to flash the fixed logo for that.
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No you need to flash the fixed logo for that.
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Exactly what i needed, thank you!
I'm getting a 6p for Christmas and I have a question.
Say the 6p is on Marshmallow, and I decide to unlock the bootloader (just that, no root or anything) on MM. Will I be able to update to 7.1.1 via ota (no I don't want to sideload or flash) without issues? Or is there a process to it like updating bootloader, vendor, radio or whatever else. Or does the Ota file contain the updated boot.img and vendor etc.
ricbaez said:
I'm getting a 6p for Christmas and I have a question.
Say the 6p is on Marshmallow, and I decide to unlock the bootloader (just that, no root or anything) on MM. Will I be able to update to 7.1.1 via ota (no I don't want to sideload or flash) without issues? Or is there a process to it like updating bootloader, vendor, radio or whatever else. Or does the Ota file contain the updated boot.img and vendor etc.
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Yes, you can unlock then update via OTA. OTAs patch every partition permitted there are no modifications done to system and boot.
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ricbaez said:
I'm getting a 6p for Christmas and I have a question.
Say the 6p is on Marshmallow, and I decide to unlock the bootloader (just that, no root or anything) on MM. Will I be able to update to 7.1.1 via ota (no I don't want to sideload or flash) without issues? Or is there a process to it like updating bootloader, vendor, radio or whatever else. Or does the Ota file contain the updated boot.img and vendor etc.
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Why would you want to unlock the bootloader if you don't intend to root or install a custom recovery? I don't understand what the benefit is.
jhs39 said:
Why would you want to unlock the bootloader if you don't intend to root or install a custom recovery? I don't understand what the benefit is.
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I actually intend to install megapixel rom
jhs39 said:
Why would you want to unlock the bootloader if you don't intend to root or install a custom recovery? I don't understand what the benefit is.
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@ricbaez
No disrespect, but I would say why would you NOT unlock the bootloader on a Nexus? Especially when you first get the phone because unlocking wipes it. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to use MANY more tools in the event your phone boot loops or becomes unresponsive. There are dozens of threads where people are completely screwed because they did NOT unlock the bootloader and so cannot salvage their device with ADB/Fastboot. If you bought a Nexus, one of the selling points is that Google ALLOWS the owner to unlock the bootloader right in the Dev Options! Even if the OP is not going to root or install a custom recovery, if he/she does not unlock the bootloader, they are going to be S.O.L. if the phone won't boot. There are many examples of this since Google has gone to the monthly security OTA's and updates. Or... simply put, if you are unlocked you can flash full Google images and use ADB/Fastboot. If you are locked, you can only sideload an OTA with the stock recovery and that hasn't been working out well for so many people here on XDA.
To the OP. Recommend you unlock your bootloader first thing which will wipe the phone and start you out fresh. Unlocking the bootloader will not prevent you from receiving OTA's. Make sure your Google login works properly. Login. Logout. Login. Then do whatever the F you want with your phone, knowing you will have serious options to recover in the event things go south for any reason. Next would be installing TWRP. Good luck!
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@ricbaez
No disrespect, but I would say why would you NOT unlock the bootloader on a Nexus? Especially when you first get the phone because unlocking wipes it. Unlocking the bootloader allows you to use MANY more tools in the event your phone boot loops or becomes unresponsive. There are dozens of threads where people are completely screwed because they did NOT unlock the bootloader and so cannot salvage their device with ADB/Fastboot. If you bought a Nexus, one of the selling points is that Google ALLOWS the owner to unlock the bootloader right in the Dev Options! Even if the OP is not going to root or install a custom recovery, if he/she does not unlock the bootloader, they are going to be S.O.L. if the phone won't boot. There are many examples of this since Google has gone to the monthly security OTA's and updates. Or... simply put, if you are unlocked you can flash full Google images and use ADB/Fastboot. If you are locked, you can only sideload an OTA with the stock recovery and that hasn't been working out well for so many people here on XDA.
To the OP. Recommend you unlock your bootloader first thing which will wipe the phone and start you out fresh. Unlocking the bootloader will not prevent you from receiving OTA's. Make sure your Google login works properly. Login. Logout. Login. Then do whatever the F you want with your phone, knowing you will have serious options to recover in the event things go south for any reason. Next would be installing TWRP. Good luck!
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You are right. I wasn't aware that people were having boot loop issues on phones running stock Android but that apparently is the case. But as long as USB Debugging and Allow OEM Unlock are ticked in the developer options you should be able to unlock the bootloader later through ADB if you need to. I assumed the warning about my phone being insecure since my bootloader is unlocked that pops up every time I boot was there for a reason. There is no security issue created by unlocking your bootloader?
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You are right. I wasn't aware that people were having boot loop issues on phones running stock Android but that apparently is the case. But as long as USB Debugging and Allow OEM Unlock are ticked in the developer options you should be able to unlock the bootloader later through ADB if you need to. I assumed the warning about my phone being insecure since my bootloader is unlocked that pops up every time I boot was there for a reason. There is no security issue created by unlocking your bootloader?
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It's cool, and I respect your decision to stay locked if you decide that is best for you. I suppose you could set Allow OEM unlock in Dev settings AND USB debugging in USB just in case, but if for some reason you could not boot, unlocking bootloader would then wipe userdata and your backups would be gone before you could transfer them off. In the end it's up to the individual to choose security vs, recoverability. Many ppl are getting locked out of their phones in the interest of security (or just the default settings). As it turns out, they were just trying to perform a monthly security update and hosed their phone. Stock rom, stock recovery, unrooted. Every Nexus phone I've owned (Galaxy?) has been unlocked so that I could use all the tools available to get myself out of a bind if needed. I don't give a sh!t about the boot up warning, because I know that my nandroid and FF backups can get me back home in the event of a lockup. Unlocking will not stop you from receiving OTA's if you are stock. Even if you are not, unlocking will allow you to use ADB, custom recoveries, toolkits, etc. If you end up in a bootloop and your bootloader is locked you are S.O.L. plain and simple. Each to their own though... if you need encryption and value high security of your data over recoverability then you may want to stay bootloader locked. As owners of a Nexus phone we have that option. Many others do not. Cheers my friend!
Thank you guys everything was successful, unlocked it in no time, downloaded 7.1.1 and it's perfect. NOw time to flash twrp and MegaPixel Rom
Hey all.
So I've installed LineageOS just fine - the unlocking guides around here are mostly clear enough. Certainly not as easy as I've been used to for Nexus and OnePlus devices though! I've been using the 'official' TWRP 3.0.4.1 and not any of the other (now often links removed) unofficial versions.
I've also got my hands dirty with EDL mode and have totally reflashed a couple of times while playing around.
So on to my question. Basically I have an email client for work (Good for Enterprise) that detects unlocked bootloaders as 'root' (even though I'm not rooted), so I would like to relock my bootloader.
However, as soon as I use 'fastboot oem lock' it instantly bricks my phone. It goes straight into EDL mode, from which it cannot return. No bootloader, no recovery mode, no booting of system. Completely dead. All button combos attempted etc.. The only way back that I've found is to flash a whole new system image in EDL, and start over.
So, have I missed something (a signed recovery?) that makes this happen? Are there some verifications that the bootloader does while locked that fails because there's a custom system and recovery in place?
Is there anything I can do about this? Am I doomed to use stock for as long as I need to use this darned app?
Thanks very much!
Yes you need to be completely stock to lock BL.
Also if you want to stay unlocked, you can use MAGISK to hide root for your mailing app.
Thanks for the replies. I actually don't have, and never have had, root. So the only thing it can possibly be detecting is either the custom ROM itself (or rather, not a factory one from some list they maintain) or the unlocked bootloader. So I doubt MAGISK will work, because there's no root there to hide in the first place
(In case it wasn't obvious, we're talking about Good for Enterprise here).
The blackberry mobile device management system (earlier called GFE) doesnt care if bootloader is unlocked, it just checks whether you have a custom recovery (twrp) and that is enough to flag your system as rooted.