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Hey all, haven't been able to find an answer for this. So I'll open a new thread. Now the question. The phone seems to take a long time to charge. Is it possible for me to use my Note 4's quick charger or can anyone recomend a faster charger for this phone? Charging it with Note 4's 2a charger wont damage the battery? Thank you.
I use a 2.1 out and it charges in about an hour and a half
Charging isn't fast and it seems that if the phone gets warm, it draws less power then too - so on a warm day, it can feel like it's taking years.
Would have been nice to have had wireless charging support and/or turbo charging, but alas not.
jonmorris said:
Charging isn't fast and it seems that if the phone gets warm, it draws less power then too - so on a warm day, it can feel like it's taking years.
Would have been nice to have had wireless charging support and/or turbo charging, but alas not.
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Doesn't the phone support quick charging? But Huawei haven't bundled the appropriate charger?
Doesn't appear to. I've got a Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 adapter and it doesn't seem any faster, nor say fast charging.
There's a quirk, when the battery shows 100% it actually still keep charging for another 30 minutes. All tests showed that it took 3hours+ to fully charge it. So quick charge my ass.
So just to update, I have tried charging it with note 4's fast charger and it charges the phone from 20 to 100% in about an hour and a half. Which imo isn't that bad. With the included charger, it took me around 2 and a half hours... Huawei really should have included a charger with higher amp, 1 is way to low.
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So just to update, I have tried charging it with note 4's fast charger and it charges the phone from 20 to 100% in about an hour and a half. Which imo isn't that bad. With the included charger, it took me around 2 and a half hours... Huawei really should have included a charger with higher amp, 1 is way to low.
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It's sadly very common for phones to ship with poor chargers (1A and even lower), but then again - some phones these days come with NO charging adapter, assuming you'll have a ton of them anyway.
I use a 2.1A 5V charger, but I've tried the faster ones (that can output 9V) and it doesn't speed things up, so while it can charge faster with a better PSU, it won't ever charge as quick as many other flagships. Mind you, has the G4 been given full support yet? Likewise, the Z3 is down as supporting Quick Charge 2.0 on Qualcomm's website, but then turns out to be only some variants. Makes me wonder if the Z3+ supports it in every guise.
Not sure what the reasoning is for devices that could support faster charging not actually allowing it, especially if the manufacturer could profit from selling faster chargers separately.
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It's sadly very common for phones to ship with poor chargers (1A and even lower), but then again - some phones these days come with NO charging adapter, assuming you'll have a ton of them anyway.
I use a 2.1A 5V charger, but I've tried the faster ones (that can output 9V) and it doesn't speed things up, so while it can charge faster with a better PSU, it won't ever charge as quick as many other flagships. Mind you, has the G4 been given full support yet? Likewise, the Z3 is down as supporting Quick Charge 2.0 on Qualcomm's website, but then turns out to be only some variants. Makes me wonder if the Z3+ supports it in every guise.
Not sure what the reasoning is for devices that could support faster charging not actually allowing it, especially if the manufacturer could profit from selling faster chargers separately.
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I read an article about Huawei declining fast-charge for "battery-purposes" so it can have a longer life cycle. But i think Huawei made an exception about the Huawei Honor 7.
I had an Samsung before and never had problems with fast-charging whatsoever.
My P8 was full in about 2 hours with an 2.1 A charger, while my Samsung Galaxy Mega 6.3 took 1,5 hours.
the screenshoot took from Huawei P8 & P8 Max Launching Event 2015 said that p8 has quick charge at min 21.30 but they didnt talk about that in the event
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uLe3q4wHjE
Here's a quick charger for the Huawei P8 : http://www.amazon.com/Adaptive-Charger-Charging-voltages-charging/dp/9713256832
I did not buy it, but it says it charges at 9V 2.1A
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Here's a quick charger for the Huawei P8 : http://www.amazon.com/Adaptive-Charger-Charging-voltages-charging/dp/9713256832
I did not buy it, but it says it charges at 9V 2.1A
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I think this adaptor isn't safe to p8max.. I will try another charger but only 5v with higher amp that will be safe for sure
Now i charge with stock from 3%to100% in about 2.5 h and the phone didn't tell me to remove charger for more half ahour!!
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I think this adaptor isn't safe to p8max.. I will try another charger but only 5v with higher amp that will be safe for sure
Now i charge with stock from 3%to100% in about 2.5 h and the phone didn't tell me to remove charger for more half ahour!!
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I dont know, its 9V 2.1A, so it is quick charge. But i dont know if it is for MAX. I can charge fast. maybe 1.5h/2h?
Does the Moto Z Force follow Qualcomm's Quick Charge standard or the USB-PD standard? I ask this because the TurboPower™ 15 charger outputs multiple voltages like QC standard; but the TurboPower™ 30 that comes with the Moto Z Force outputs only at 5V at a reasonably high available amperage of 5.7A, which look more like the USB-PD standard.
Additionally: which (if any other than OEM) wall and vehicle chargers available will optimally rapid/quick/turbo charge the Moto Z Force?
Thanks.
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Does the Moto Z Force follow Qualcomm's Quick Charge standard or the USB-PD standard? I ask this because the TurboPower™ 15 charger outputs multiple voltages like QC standard; but the TurboPower™ 30 that comes with the Moto Z Force outputs only at 5V at a reasonably high available amperage of 5.7A, which look more like the USB-PD standard.
Additionally: which (if any other than OEM) wall and vehicle chargers available will optimally rapid/quick/turbo charge the Moto Z Force?
Thanks.
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I can tell you this. I have a QuickCharge 3.0 charger at home (USB charging hub) that will not engage TurboCharging on either my Moto Z or my Z Force. However my Nexus 6p charger engages TurboCharging on both phones. Odd... I am going to try a different USB-c cable tonight to see if it does anything on that 3.0 charging hub.
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Does the Moto Z Force follow Qualcomm's Quick Charge standard or the USB-PD standard? I ask this because the TurboPowerâ?¢ 15 charger outputs multiple voltages like QC standard; but the TurboPowerâ?¢ 30 that comes with the Moto Z Force outputs only at 5V at a reasonably high available amperage of 5.7A, which look more like the USB-PD standard.
Additionally: which (if any other than OEM) wall and vehicle chargers available will optimally rapid/quick/turbo charge the Moto Z Force?
Thanks.
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Looks like the Moto Z force does not follow QC 3.0 standards. The reason the Nexus 6p charger is working is because it outputs 5V and a 3A current which is Turbo charging as far as Moto is concerned. I think our phones follow the USB PD standard. Reason being is the turbo 30 charger outputs 5V at 5.7amps. that's a lot of current but the voltage stays at 5v. Usb pd can get up to 20v at 5amps for a max off 100w. Quick charging is different in that it ramps up the voltage to 9v or 12 v depending but usually keeps current at 2a and below. USB PD tends to keep voltage low but ramp up the current draw. Quick charge will usually not see more than 3a on most chargers. If it does see 3a our phone will more than likely register as turbo charging. If not we get the standard 5v 2a charging. Bottom line is QC maxes out at 18w I believe. Our phones charge at 28w if you multiply 5v by 5.7a u get 28.5watts. This currently beats QC 3.0 devices which are all mostly 15w chargers hence why the Moto Z has the fastest charging out now. To increase power you either have to up the voltage or the current in amps. Different standards but achieve a similar goal.
I've tried all my QC 2.0 and 3.0 charging devices. Nothing will charge it fast unless it's the TurboPower provided by Moto. That pisses me off so very much.
I dont think these devices (nor the new Nexus phones) use QC or USB-PD. I think they all use something called USB-c fast charging. I returned my QC 3.0 charger and have another one on the way that claims to be USB-c fast charging. Ill report when I have it in 2 days.
If you notice the chargers for the Nexus and Moto Z phones are different than most chargers. The Moto phones have a non removable USB cable and the Nexus has a USB-c connector on both ends.
What I think we are looking for, and what I have on order, is a charger that has a USB-c input on it. I have a charging block that claims to have USB-c fast charging on its USB-c input. The charger I just returned that had QC 3.0 on it also had a USB-c input, but fast charging was not enabled on it. The new one claims to be.
So long story short you need to use a cable with the small C connector on both ends and a charger that has a USB-c port with fast charging enabled on it.
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I've tried all my QC 2.0 and 3.0 charging devices. Nothing will charge it fast unless it's the TurboPower provided by Moto. That pisses me off so very much.
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Agreed...I even went out and bought a QC 3.0 car charger just for this phone lol
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I dont think these devices (nor the new Nexus phones) use QC or USB-PD. I think they all use something called USB-c fast charging. I returned my QC 3.0 charger and have another one on the way that claims to be USB-c fast charging. Ill report when I have it in 2 days.
If you notice the chargers for the Nexus and Moto Z phones are different than most chargers. The Moto phones have a non removable USB cable and the Nexus has a USB-c connector on both ends.
What I think we are looking for, and what I have on order, is a charger that has a USB-c input on it. I have a charging block that claims to have USB-c fast charging on its USB-c input. The charger I just returned that had QC 3.0 on it also had a USB-c input, but fast charging was not enabled on it. The new one claims to be.
So long story short you need to use a cable with the small C connector on both ends and a charger that has a USB-c port with fast charging enabled on it.
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I'm very interested to hear your results
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I also tested a Anker QC 3.0 wall charger and in half hour it only charged about 20%. Not quick or turbo speeds...
Very bummed. I just bought a QC 3.0 battery, car charger, and wall charger and threw away the boxes. I guess I can give them to my wife who has a LG G5...
I hope that eventually there are batteries and car charges that will charge this phone quickly. QC 2.0 was a feature that I very much liked on my last Phone (Droid Turbo). Being able to charge at those speeds was very nice on the road or with a battery.
The only other things is I believe our phones are equipped with usb 3.1 standard. I believe this standard allows for up to 20v of power at a max of around 5a. But any charger that does 5v at at least 3a will pit our phone into turbo charging. I have a Verizon branded fast charger that does 5v/3a and it recognizes it as turbo charging and actually does very good. Not as fast as the stock charger but damn close. Motorola stated they follow the USB C standard for charging which is 5v 3a. So i still say it's a form of usb PD that Motorola is basing there technology off of because the amps our stock charger is putting out is 5.7 amps. The usb c standard stops at 3a without usb 3.1 which we have on our phones and usb pd to up the amps. I would love to see you report back with the findings on the new charger!!!
We'll all know soon. I will even tell you the amps it puts out vs the stock charger. I have a way to monitor.
To save y'all time. Look for chargers that output 5v at 3a. These will turbo charge your phone. Just like the Nexus 6p and Nexus 5x our phones do not follow Qualcomm quick charge standards. So those accessories will do nothing for you because QC doesn't put out past 2a. QC does 9v at 1.67a. multiply that and you get 15watts. Same thing as a charger with 5v and 3a. Multiply that and you also get 15w. Different ways of doing it but same end result. Verizon has a wall charger and a car charger that outputs at 5v 3a. It is also Qualcomm quick charge ready for other phones you may have. It also states on the side of the box that it is USB power delivery 2.0 compatible which I think is why it fast charges our phones. You're welcome
The charger I ordered states: "USB C Output: DC 5V/3A". This leads me to believe it will put the phone into "Turbo" charging mode, but it won't actually charge as fast as the stock charger which is 5.7a. Oh well, it's better than nothing I guess. I can still use the stock charger when needed.
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I literally cannot find any aftermarket charger that will put out more than 3.0 amps. I think thats as high as we can get right now and the Force charger is the only thing out there putting out above that.
Yea I don't think any aftermarket charger right now supports anything above 3a. Our stock charger has a thicker cable as well. Since QC chargers up the voltage and keep a low amp rating they can keep the cable smaller. Voltage doesn't necessarily need a thicker cable but current or the flow of amps does. For more than 3 amps the cable needs to be thicker for more current flowing. Our phones can handle 30 watts of power easily our stock charger outputs 28.5 watts. 15 watts is considered quick charging that's why our phone recognizes it as turbo charging. One plus has a charger that does 5v at 4a that's the closest I know of 20 watts. I would just like the stock charger to have a longer possibly removable cable. Our phones with 5v 3a are really charging the same as the other QC 2.0 and 3.0 devices it's all 15 watts
Back again, now with a bit more info. If the Moto Z Force truly does draw 5.7A @ 5V it follows neither QC-3 nor USB-PD standard. Both like to change voltages, but neither have 5V anywhere approaching 5.7A. Pg 471 of the latest USB standard shows that the max current delivered at 5V is to be 3A before being bumped up to 9V. QC3.0 adjusts voltages via 200mV steps (if anyone has a link to the official technical specifications of QC3.0 please share), but only outputs 18W max.
My next step is to fully drain the Moto Z Force, hook up the charger to a power meter, and measure how much power it truly draws until fully charged. I might have to make a measuring tool that independently measures the voltage and current of both VBus lines if further testing is needed.
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Back again, now with a bit more info. If the Moto Z Force truly does draw 5.7A @ 5V it follows neither QC-3 nor USB-PD standard. Both like to change voltages, but neither have 5V anywhere approaching 5.7A. Pg 471 of the latest USB standard shows that the max current delivered at 5V is to be 3A before being bumped up to 9V. QC3.0 adjusts voltages via 200mV steps (if anyone has a link to the official technical specifications of QC3.0 please share), but only outputs 18W max.
My next step is to fully drain the Moto Z Force, hook up the charger to a power meter, and measure how much power it truly draws until fully charged. I might have to make a measuring tool that independently measures the voltage and current of both VBus lines if further testing is needed.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.ampere&hl=en
Should be easier and give the same results. What I use.
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I've come to the conclusion that the USB hub I ordered is as good as it gets. It has 6 ports. 4 ports that vary the amps up to 2.4a, 1 QC 2.0 port, and 1 USB-c 5v/3a port.
I really hope Motorola / Verizon / Aftermarket companies are able to come up with a charger for this device. I love my Moto Z Force, but with the battery mods, I would like to have a charger for work capable of charging the mod as well. I don't know if I'd be able to survive with the 3ft one that came with it. I went out and bought all of the 3.0 accessories and threw out the boxes as well, thinking it would work. No USB A > USB C Chargers I've tried have worked. I'm anxious to hear if anyone has found one that works.
I reached out to Motorola Customer Service, the person had no idea what was going on. I have a Quick Charge 3.0 Aukey charger at my desk, Ampere says it's charging at 4.341v but no turbo power blurb. My buddy has the "Fast Charging" Verizon one, but it doesn't say it either. Hard to tell if it even has QC or not. They did however load the official moto charger (OEM) onto their webpage. I may just have to live with this one. :/
The one I have on order will certainly put the phone into turbo mode. I don't know how many amps it will do but it will be at least 3. As far as finding something above 3, well I couldn't. I ordered my own USB cable as well (C to C) and could have chosen any length. My charger is a hub with 6 ports and one is a QC 2.0 port. Couldn't find one with the fast USB-C port that also had 3.0.
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Here's some charging stats for you. All in amps.
.25a - USB port on surface pro 4
.97a - Portable battery pack
.23a - Old USB hub on 2.1a port. (Terrible!)
2.5a - Nexus 6p charger. ("Turbo" shows)
5.1a!!! - Factory force charger
Here are some other 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
fliptwister said:
Here are some other 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/AUKEY-Charge...8&qid=1470243655&sr=1-1&keywords=aukey+type-c
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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So these chargers will all "turbo" charge our phones? I'm particularly interested in he car charger...I have an aukey QC 3.0 that I bought for this phone before realizing it wouldn't do the job lol...
But the usb-c port on the one you just posted will actually work right?...
At home I'm not too worried because I generally only charge my phone over night, so a slow charge or short cable isn't a terrible problem
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Metfanant said:
So these chargers will all "turbo" charge our phones? I'm particularly interested in he car charger...I have an aukey QC 3.0 that I bought for this phone before realizing it wouldn't do the job lol...
But the usb-c port on the one you just posted will actually work right?...
At home I'm not too worried because I generally only charge my phone over night, so a slow charge or short cable isn't a terrible problem
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Yes all those chargers should turbo charge the phone. Not as much as the stock charger, but still turbo. If you want a USB hub with multiple ports there are only like 2 options for those. There should be many options for single block home chargers and car chargers though. The hubs are the hard ones to get.
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Yes all those chargers should turbo charge the phone. Not as much as the stock charger, but still turbo. If you want a USB hub with multiple ports there are only like 2 options for those. There should be many options for single block home chargers and car chargers though. The hubs are the hard ones to get.
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Does the USB certification matter for the cable? Is a USB 2.0 cable enough or do we need 3.0 or 3.1?
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In a review site someone claiming confidently that the G4P does support turbo charging despite no mention of this in specs. Does anyone have the G4P and a turbo charger can do a test?
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...despite no mention of this in specs....
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Well, I don't think Motorola really advertised "Turbo" charging for G4 Play.
They advertised something else. Here's what it says on their site:
Moto G Play works with the 10W rapid charger (charger in-box), which gives you 5 hours of battery life in just 15 minutes of charging.
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Source: http://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-play#battery
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Well, I don't think Motorola really advertised "Turbo" charging for G4 Play.
They advertised something else. Here's what it says on their site:
Source: http://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-play#battery
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So the charger supplied says 5V and 0.5A which doesn't look like a fast charger.
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So the charger supplied says 5V and 0.5A which doesn't look like a fast charger.
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My supplied charger clearly says OUTPUT: 5.2V===2.0A
Exhibit A is attached
It does not support quickcharger, that works with 9v and 12v i already tried, but the supplied charger charges at 2.0 A. which is fast.
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My supplied charger clearly says OUTPUT: 5.2V===2.0A
Exhibit A is attached
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I am in the USA and bought the USA version XT1607.
The charger looks different it says 5V 0.5A.
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I am in the USA and bought the USA version XT1607.
The charger looks different it says 5V 0.5A.
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Same here, both the Amazon and the non-Amazon version I bought had the 550mAh chargers.
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Same here, both the Amazon and the non-Amazon version I bought had the 550mAh chargers.
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The fact they package with a low spec charger in a $150 box is not a concern. I own dual and quad chargers I carry for phone tablet BT etc.
The question is a specific charger able to charge faster? I looked at the one supplied and it seemed to imply a 5V input then as much Amp as phone can take, which is usually about 1-1.5A til 85%.
Turbo, is I think like QC, it increases the voltage at low battery charge, such a charger would show say 12V or 9V output.
Is there any good charging app to watch what the phone is doing? I have iSmart, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 devices I can test on.
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Is there any good charging app to watch what the phone is doing? I have iSmart, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 devices I can test on.
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The way I find best is to not use the phone and use a stopwatch and measure at 15m intervals.
It does take days to be ready with a low charge condition.
App I have used is Ampere but I find it unreliable as the act of using the phone means heat throttling down the charging speed, if you don't use the phone then Ampere sleeps and doesn't monitor.
From what I understand, it does support it but you have to buy an additional charger.
It definitely does some kind of fast charging because my Anker Powercore+ 10,050mAh power block charges it incredibly fast. I don't know what other charging methods the Anker does beyond qc2.0 since I have had the Anker less than 12 hours.
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If this behaves like osprey (which I expect - I haven't yet examined the kernel), the hardware doesn't support the Qualcomm high voltage quick charging, but it does support regular charging up to 800 mA. The weak 550 mA charger bundled with the North American variants will not make the most of it, but a 1A charger or better should get full charging performance.
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...but it does support regular charging up to 800 mA...
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So does this mean the 2.0 A bundled chargers are bottlenecked, like they support 2.0 A and the phone supports only till 800 mA...am I thinking correct?
My XT1607 US unlocked retail version came with a 5V 550mA labeled charge plug. I used a cable and power plug from another device that rated at 5.2V and 1.35A and it drew about 1.4A from it. Then I dug out another USB adapter rated 5.3V, 2A . It consumed 1.78A and it was 80% charged at the time. That would make for some much faster charging than the original plug. Wouldn't matter much if you just plug it in overnight to charge.
Anyone confirm if the it supports QC 2.0? Only thing wrong e phone is slow charge from supplied.
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I have used the turbo charger supplied with Moto G3 Turbo and it charges much faster than the one supplied in box. So yes it supports turbocharging but you need to get the charger elsewhere.
MaanasDwivedi said:
I have used the turbo charger supplied with Moto G3 Turbo and it charges much faster than the one supplied in box. So yes it supports turbocharging but you need to get the charger elsewhere.
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Logic fail. The supplied charge is feeble like 0.5A so anything like 1A or 2A is better.
That does NOT mean turbo is supported.
When I plug my G4 Play into my Anker 4 port power supply and then into a kilowatt meter, it draws 10 watts. If we work it backwards, that's 5v and 2 amps (however, need to account for line loss, transformer loss and other losses). A watt is a watt, doesn't matter what the voltage or amperage is, as W = V x A.
This phone charges much quicker than my old Moto G second gen, which would take close to 2 hours to fully recharge. I have had this phone recharge in as little as an hour from around 30%. It's a shame that the SD 410 chip supports QC 2.0 but Motorola didn't enable it. It seems to have QC 1.0 (which is the 10 watt, 5v @ 2amp rating).
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When I plug my G4 Play into my Anker 4 port power supply and then into a kilowatt meter, it draws 10 watts. If we work it backwards, that's 5v and 2 amps (however, need to account for line loss, transformer loss and other losses). A watt is a watt, doesn't matter what the voltage or amperage is, as W = V x A.
This phone charges much quicker than my old Moto G second gen, which would take close to 2 hours to fully recharge. I have had this phone recharge in as little as an hour from around 30%. It's a shame that the SD 410 chip supports QC 2.0 but Motorola didn't enable it. It seems to have QC 1.0 (which is the 10 watt, 5v @ 2amp rating).
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Regular USB is 2A 5V 10W.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
Standard USB 2.0 is 500mA
USB 3.0 is 900mA
There is a new subset standard called USB power delivery, it's used for newer devices.
Quick charge 1.0 was 2 amp at 5v.
There's a little more info here. https://www.easyacc.com/media-center/quick-charge-3-0-vs-2-0-vs-1-0/
These phones charging at 2 amps is technically quick charge, whether it's the 1.0 revision or not is really down to licensing and stuff. They don't charge at 2.0 speeds unfortunately. Even though the chipset supports it.
Can i use a quallacom quick charge charger rated at [email protected] (i guess what turbo power gives is 9v at 1.67A)
P.s both give charging current of nearly 2500ma in ampere app,my original moto charger is not wrking and i am out of warranty
Yes I use my samsung charger (9v 2amp) on my G4 all the time shows as turbo charger when plugged in.
Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
airafali said:
Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
airafali said:
By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
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Again, I don't understand what you mean. The SD625 support Quick Charge 3.0, but the charger supplied with the device is a QC 2.0 compliant adapter that is labeled "TurboPower", at least in the US. If I connect a Samsung GS7 to the Moto charger, it shows Fast Charging as well.
I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't understand what are you trying to say here.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
McKellen said:
But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
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According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
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According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
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I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
McKellen said:
I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
McKellen said:
Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
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Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
Karlinski said:
Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
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I'm just asking coz QC 2.0 charger is cheaper then QC 3.0 charger
And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
Karlinski said:
And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
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I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
McKellen said:
I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
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Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
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Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
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I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
McKellen said:
I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
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That is my charger at work... If you have a QC 2.0 charger, don't bother getting a new one. If you are buying one, get a 3.0 one.
I know this thread is a little dated and I'm a late comer to this thread, but I just bought the g5 plus on a black friday deal at best buy $300 down to $225, US xt1678 variant, 64gb storage and 4gb ram, I jsut could not resist it for that price, and....it was actually cheaper than the 32gb storage 2gb ram variant which was listed at $229
Anyways on to my question, this is for acejavelin. You said your qc 2.0 worked and came up as showing turbo charging (not just normal charging)? I hope I am reading this correctly. Also is this one of those Qualcomm® Quick Charge 2.0 chargers, that's what I was looking at buying for my car and was curious if it worked. Just checking to make sure I'm reading the thread correctly.
I recently just bought a 2.1 fast charge lighter plugin, but guess what, it doesn't turbocharge only normal charge. I tried with the cord that came with the phone, as well as 2 other cords and still only normal charge for each one.
Now with my wall charger (the provided turbocharger that came with the g5 plus) in the house, all 3 cords work and show as turbocharge as long as I am using the provided moto turbo charge wall charger.
I also was curious and tried an old samsung charger that I used on I think it was the s4, last samsung I owned lol. With my nexus 5x which has USB-C worked wonderfully with it, but sadly turbo charge does not work so well with the samsung wall charger, because it does not show as turbo charge, but only normal charge on the g5 plus.
So I'm trying to figure out whats the fastest charging method for the lg v35 available so i can buy a new charger with that capability. Anyone have any ideas what that would be?
For USBC i'm looking at 5V/3A, 9V/3A, 12V/3A, 15V/3A, 20V/3A , which of these usb pd options would it work with? Also is this phone a QC 3 or 4 capable phone? Thanks
Trying to see if this would increase my charging speeds:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=30948
My old Nexus 6 quick charge brick does nicely with a usb a/c cable
LG v35 is QC 3.0.
Neither or my Google PD chargers for my previous Nexus 6P will fast charge my LG v35, but my Huawei MediaPad M5 charger (FCP --> 18 watts) will. I think QC3 is a little more watts, like 22 so I'd get slightly faster charging w/QC 3 charger. Would really like to identify a charger that will fast charge across QC3, FCP, and PD. Not sure that Monoprice one will.
This device does PD up to 65 watts plus two 2.4amp us ports and also has one QC3 port. I love it.
Satechi Type-C 75W Travel Charger with USB-C PD Fast Charge, Quick Charge 3.0 - Compatible with 2016/2017/2018 MacBook Pro/MacBook, iPad Pro, iPhone XS Max/XS/XR, Nintendo Switch, Microsoft Surface Go https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078864F15/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_IjeHCbDSBEDB8