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Hi All,
Im just trying to weigh the pros and cons of rooting my device. XT1563. The root seems a lot more intricate than other Android devices I've owned (S3, S4, and S6).
Will it offer me overall improved functionality? Will the phone be better overall? From what I understand many things may stop working when you root.
Is it worth it?
GrandPrime1 said:
Hi All,
Im just trying to weigh the pros and cons of rooting my device. XT1563. The root seems a lot more intricate than other Android devices I've owned (S3, S4, and S6).
Will it offer me overall improved functionality? Will the phone be better overall? From what I understand many things may stop working when you root.
Is it worth it?
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For me, it was worth it. Using Xposed with Greenify and Gravity Box to improve the customization and battery life don't make me regret my decision of rooting it. :good:
brom25 said:
For me, it was worth it. Using Xposed with Greenify and Gravity Box to improve the customization and battery life don't make me regret my decision of rooting it. :good:
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But the warranty..
I bought mine and by the end of the same evening it was boot loader unlocked and rooted, but that's because there are things I like that require root.
Eg. I use amplify, greenify, gravitybox, and adaway
I want my flashlight to turn on when I hold the volume button without unlocking my phone.
I want it to switch to vibrate mode when I start work, and switch back when I finish, automatically.
I want it to switch to airplane mode at midnight to save battery, and switch back before I wake up.
I want a battery indicator that has text numbers, and the clock in the middle with the date.
The negatives are, sometimes I have messed up and had to flash stock firmware.
Can't take OTA updates. I usually wait for a rooted flashable version.
It's very worth it for me, but if you don't care about any of the extra features root gives you, or you are extremely concerned about warranty, there's no reason for you to root it. It's a great phone with or without root and it can do a lot either way.
Atrax_ said:
But the warranty..
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I dunno where you live but If you live in the EU your warranty is NOT void
is XPOSD stable
brom25 said:
For me, it was worth it. Using Xposed with Greenify and Gravity Box to improve the customization and battery life don't make me regret my decision of rooting it. :good:
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I am also looking fwd to using Gravity Box
Is XPOSD stable on the MOTO X Play ?
shikhar112 said:
I am also looking fwd to using Gravity Box
Is XPOSD stable on the MOTO X Play ?
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Yes it is
It's proper to wait for marshmallow update because moto x play will get it by December so get the update and later on root it.... I also use greenify, tasker, also use meeting mood for auto vibrations, I manually put my phone on aeroplane mode.... If you are die hard fan of custom rom then it's worth it, I also love the customizations but only after the expiration of warranty because I love my hard earned phone.... Choice is yours....
It's not worth in my opinion. I am getting a great battery life compered to all my previous devices. No lags that many people talk about (my last phone was s5 dual sim and I can't really see any difference in performance) I missing one things though, led notification. Can't root even if I'd like because of bank app which doesn't work on rooted devices
Greenfy works with no root (not all the options) Status Bar mini gives me % battery......
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Root is always worth it. Out of ten android phones owned, rooting them improved them all.
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For me it was 100% worth it, I rooted it, installed squid2's twrp and flashed his latest kernel. That gave me LED notifications. Then xposed with gravitybox, greenify, amplify and powernap. With some tweaking I am getting close to 8 hours of screen on time or under regular conditions about 2 days of battery life and absolutely loving it. I loved it before all this now the only phone I'd trade it for is the Moto X force. But that's just the tech addict in me.
All my devices have been rooted once I wanted to install a custom ROM. This was the first one i rooted right away, mostly because I wanted to properly restore my apps and data using titanium backup, and also have it backed up from the start before unlocking the bootloader and rooting down the road. However finally trying Xposed and Gravitybox has been an added bonus.
Have a permanent backup on my SD. This backup alone does it for me. The whole system can be restored from recovery; this way I can always go back to a working setup. Plus Greenify, Gravitybox and APM+. Plus writing just anywhere on my SD card.
Got my Play yesterday and I really really really tried to NOT root it and... well, now I'm rooted.
- Adaway
- Greenify/Amplify (Greenify can still work without root but not as "nicely" imo)
- Gravitybox (not essential but nice to fine-tune a few things)
- Proper backups (Nandroid and Titanium for apps)
- LED notifications thanks to @squid2 's kernel
I'm not too worried about the warranty as the phone wasn't horribly expensive in the first place.
I'm also not too concerned about OTA updates - every other device I've had I've managed to get the latest via XDA before any official OTA updates anyway.
mgolder said:
Root is always worth it. Out of ten android phones owned, rooting them improved them all.
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Hello,is it true that the double sim version can't be rooted?
gardegas said:
Hello,is it true that the double sim version can't be rooted?
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I dont think thats true,all versions can be rooted afaik
gardegas said:
Hello,is it true that the double sim version can't be rooted?
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I have a double sim and it's rooted.
Hello,
This is my first nexus, getting it tomorrow (12th) really looking forward to it, got the graphite one (getting a case so doesn't matter to me)
Im quite excited about the development, it looks quite busy which is great, I'd just like to ask if anyone has any screen off animations, like the CRT effect or the s6 slide to the edge animation, I'm pretty sure xposed provides these but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
I'll be rooting day one as I've always done on my phones and then off on the hunt for a rom.. Glad to be a part of the nexus gang for once, hope it's as good as I've heard..
Second question was list view animations, again I'm aware that there are xposed mods XUI mod which can do these for me, but again I'd like to avoid them.. I think there will be some roms with this feature baked in but thought I'd ask anyway just incase there isn't..
Thanks chaps.
dladz said:
Hello,
This is my first nexus, getting it tomorrow (12th) really looking forward to it, got the graphite one (getting a case so doesn't matter to me)
Im quite excited about the development, it looks quite busy which is great, I'd just like to ask if anyone has any screen off animations, like the CRT effect or the s6 slide to the edge animation, I'm pretty sure xposed provides these but I'd like to avoid that if possible.
I'll be rooting day one as I've always done on my phones and then off on the hunt for a rom.. Glad to be a part of the nexus gang for once, hope it's as good as I've heard..
Second question was list view animations, again I'm aware that there are xposed mods XUI mod which can do these for me, but again I'd like to avoid them.. I think there will be some roms with this feature baked in but thought I'd ask anyway just incase there isn't..
Thanks chaps.
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sorry I have no idea about the screen off animation, didn't look at it tbh but mind if I ask why would you avoid xposed if you will root?
mr.dj26 said:
sorry I have no idea about the screen off animation, didn't look at it tbh but mind if I ask why would you avoid xposed if you will root?
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Not OP, but I've also been avoiding xposed. My impression is that I've seen enough negative comments about unpredictable behavior when paired with Franco Kernel, I think Franco himself may have even commented on it, and if I have to choose between the two I'm going with FK. I wish xposed could be super stable and compatible and predictable though, because I'm dying for some of it's features and I don't want to leave the stock ROM.
ALSO, it wasn't immediately apparent the requirements for using it, and the processes to install it (there are multiple parts, right? there used to be), and where we go for an aggregated list of mods like Cydia on iOS. Seemed like too much work for too much potential buginess.
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Not OP, but I've also been avoiding xposed. My impression is that I've seen enough negative comments about unpredictable behavior when paired with Franco Kernel, I think Franco himself may have even commented on it, and if I have to choose between the two I'm going with FK. I wish xposed could be super stable and compatible and predictable though, because I'm dying for some of it's features and I don't want to leave the stock ROM.
ALSO, it wasn't immediately apparent the requirements for using it, and the processes to install it (there are multiple parts, right? there used to be), and where we go for an aggregated list of mods like Cydia on iOS. Seemed like too much work for too much potential buginess.
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Can't speak to the Franco kernel but I have used Xposed with Kylo, stock and God's kernel and have never had one issue with Xposed. You have to flash the installer with TWRP but otherwise its super easy.
mr.dj26 said:
sorry I have no idea about the screen off animation, didn't look at it tbh but mind if I ask why would you avoid xposed if you will root?
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Its a fair question, and the answer is unpredictable battery drain, extremely poorly updated and Un optimized mods, obviously not all of them but a lot.
As I said in the OP the list view animation has been done, I've had it on CandyRom on my M9, it works really well but I haven't seen a screen off animation since kit kat, the stock animation now is to fade away, if you slow down animations within development settings you'll see it on locking your phone. I'd just like a one time mod to be able to alter that to something else.
Once you've got it on your phone you like it and get used to it then you miss it when it's not there.
Personally I would like to avoid xposed, it does have a negative impact on your battery for that I'm sure.
tfly212 said:
Can't speak to the Franco kernel but I have used Xposed with Kylo, stock and God's kernel and have never had one issue with Xposed. You have to flash the installer with TWRP but otherwise its super easy.
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I actually wrote a tutorial on how to install xposed and the two above modules however after doing this and living with it vs not having xposed, same apps same rom. There was a huge difference in battery performance, hence why I'd like to avoid xposed altogether.
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Not OP, but I've also been avoiding xposed. My impression is that I've seen enough negative comments about unpredictable behavior when paired with Franco Kernel, I think Franco himself may have even commented on it, and if I have to choose between the two I'm going with FK. I wish xposed could be super stable and compatible and predictable though, because I'm dying for some of it's features and I don't want to leave the stock ROM.
ALSO, it wasn't immediately apparent the requirements for using it, and the processes to install it (there are multiple parts, right? there used to be), and where we go for an aggregated list of mods like Cydia on iOS. Seemed like too much work for too much potential buginess.
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This is part of my problem too. If there are stand alone mods I'd prefer them over xposed.
Its like having the Facebook messenger app when the original Facebook app was more than enough, why have two apps when 1 will do.
There used to be stand alone mods for older devices, I'm not sure if it's possible any more or its just because there's less demand for it, but I always ask when I get a new phone.
dladz said:
I actually wrote a tutorial on how to install xposed and the two above modules however after doing this and living with it vs not having xposed, same apps same rom. There was a huge difference in battery performance, hence why I'd like to avoid xposed altogether.
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Interesting. Definitely not my experience... I have used Xposed from the start and get about 5 hours SOT as a standard with WiFi, cellular and GPS on all day (solid signal in NYC). Are you getting significantly more than 5 hours SOT without Xposed?
dladz said:
Its a fair question, and the answer is unpredictable battery drain, extremely poorly updated and Un optimized mods, obviously not all of them but a lot.
As I said in the OP the list view animation has been done, I've had it on CandyRom on my M9, it works really well but I haven't seen a screen off animation since kit kat, the stock animation now is to fade away, if you slow down animations within development settings you'll see it on locking your phone. I'd just like a one time mod to be able to alter that to something else.
Once you've got it on your phone you like it and get used to it then you miss it when it's not there.
Personally I would like to avoid xposed, it does have a negative impact on your battery for that I'm sure.
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I haven't noticed any difference in battery after installing xposed. I'm running on the stock rom/kernal with 0 issues. I use xposed for Gravity box , gesture nav, greenify, and youtube background playback. Maybe it's something with the modules you've downloaded.
mr.dj26 said:
I haven't noticed any difference in battery after installing xposed. I'm running on the stock rom/kernal with 0 issues. I use xposed for Gravity box , gesture nav, greenify, and youtube background playback. Maybe it's something with the modules you've downloaded.
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Perhaps, but the point is, if you could have the modifications which you've obtained through xposed without actually using an exploit like xposed, would you? I think you would.
This is what i'm looking for.
PS: Just got my 6P and i have to say it's one good looking phone, coming from the M9 too, it's very nice, i'm happy with it up to now for sure.
tfly212 said:
Interesting. Definitely not my experience... I have used Xposed from the start and get about 5 hours SOT as a standard with WiFi, cellular and GPS on all day (solid signal in NYC). Are you getting significantly more than 5 hours SOT without Xposed?
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I also don't want to spark a debate here as it's besides the point of what i originally asked, xposed is an app that allows mods, i personally given the chance would prefer to have the mods on their own, i know they can be done as i've seen them on previous devices (see my phone list below)
Just want to know if they exist on this device ? As it's a nexus i'd assumed that it was one of the most modded types of android out there.
Either way i'm more than happy with the device, it's a nice bit of kit.
Just my two cents here though to settle what you'd asked me, do i notice better battery without xposed, well yes i have noticed it to be better, a clean flash and then back to a normal rom and battery has been better.
There are many benefits to being without xposed, bug reporting for one, if you have xposed you can't bug report as it invalidates it, for me battery has been substandard with it, so i'm hoping with this phone i can avoid it and get the mods in a flashable zip.
Hoping
dladz said:
I also don't want to spark a debate here as it's besides the point of what i originally asked, xposed is an app that allows mods, i personally given the chance would prefer to have the mods on their own, i know they can be done as i've seen them on previous devices (see my phone list below)
Just want to know if they exist on this device ? As it's a nexus i'd assumed that it was one of the most modded types of android out there.
Either way i'm more than happy with the device, it's a nice bit of kit.
Just my two cents here though to settle what you'd asked me, do i notice better battery without xposed, well yes i have noticed it to be better, a clean flash and then back to a normal rom and battery has been better.
There are many benefits to being without xposed, bug reporting for one, if you have xposed you can't bug report as it invalidates it, for me battery has been substandard with it, so i'm hoping with this phone i can avoid it and get the mods in a flashable zip.
Hoping
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No worries...was more curious about your experience. If you were getting 8 hours SOT or something i would drop Xposed like a hot rock haha. I normally would go the ROM route but I have to use Airwatch for work and every ROM I tried made the device show as compromised.
tfly212 said:
No worries...was more curious about your experience. If you were getting 8 hours SOT or something i would drop Xposed like a hot rock haha. I normally would go the ROM route but I have to use Airwatch for work and every ROM I tried made the device show as compromised.
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What about using an older version of the app, that's how I use my banking app, the new one won't work but a few versions before and its all good.
Try it , might be OK.
I never measured screen on time, I measure by days, and events during the day, like how much battery on the way home, similar usage but xposed used more, from what I saw.
Honestly guys
Give me one good reason for wanting to do this hey I cannot think of one
I have owned a lot of phones previously first of all
The souled best I have owned a Samsung Galaxy S2
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and the only reason I had to do root those phojes
Not enough ram for multitasking purposes
Had to root so that more apps can stay in memory.
With an is as light as this....
Dont really have a need to debloat
Dont use titanium backup much
Only one reason i can think of adblocking
Thinking about it now
The reason why we had to root phones was to squeeze more performance out of them..
And my general experience is rooting though helps
It doesn't lead to an idea phone state where everything works.
Some small bugs around the edges are left which can be as annoying as you want then to be...
So anyone here who can give me better reasons for wanting to root this device
No reason IMO. I think people do it for different ROMs, Adblocker, Titanium Backup.
You don't need root if you have to ask why.
I never rooted for extra performance, I root for total control over the device I just spend a lot of money on. And I like to theme stuff deep into the system.
invinciblecc said:
Honestly guys
Give me one good reason for wanting to do this hey I cannot think of one
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Nandroid backup and titanium backup for the apps.
Privacy issues: firewalls Afwall, xprivacy, etc.
Customization: Gravitybox, etc.
Ad control: minminguard, and others.
I could go on.
Otherwise, why not just get an iPhone?
But, if you are happy, no need to root.
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No reason IMO. I think people do it for different ROMs, Adblocker, Titanium Backup.
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Seconded, I rooted to have TB and Ad block. Maybe in the future I'll mess around with a custom ROM but for now stock gives me everything I need.
invinciblecc said:
Honestly guys
Give me one good reason for wanting to do this hey I cannot think of one
I have owned a lot of phones previously first of all
The souled best I have owned a Samsung Galaxy S2
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and the only reason I had to do root those phojes
Not enough ram for multitasking purposes
Had to root so that more apps can stay in memory.
With an is as light as this....
Dont really have a need to debloat
Dont use titanium backup much
Only one reason i can think of adblocking
Thinking about it now
The reason why we had to root phones was to squeeze more performance out of them..
And my general experience is rooting though helps
It doesn't lead to an idea phone state where everything works.
Some small bugs around the edges are left which can be as annoying as you want then to be...
So anyone here who can give me better reasons for wanting to root this device
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There are hundreds, maybe thousands of reasons to root a device. I have quite a few apps which I like, plus customizable options which only exist on custom ROMs.
However all that is meaningless, the only question you need to ask is why would you root? What Is it you need which you can't have unrooted?
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I use it for
Adaway
BetterBatteryStats
CF.lumen as I find it works way better than the built in night mode
Kernel Manager
Force Doze
Greenify
Pairs to backup and restore WiFi and Bluetooth settings
Tasker
And most significantly, TitaniumBackup!
There are plenty of reasons.
Custom kernels can bring awesome features, even better stability and amazing battery life.
Custom roms bring you all the customization you ever wanted
Custom apps like Viper4A bring awesome sound to your ears, titanium backup backups everything you ever want, Greenify gives you better battery life than you can imagine.
Truth is, you decide why you want to root.
I will admit though, I didn't think I was going to need to root the OP5, it is really good stock, but I'm glad I did root. I am able to pull >48 hours on one battery with >9 hours SOT thanks to some root apps and features.
Battery life is excellent for me as of now. M.
Maybe I will root it... But after sometime
The only reason need titanium backup is if I switch roms.. And without root I won't switch roms so no need for titanium backup...
Need to block ads though...
Maybe I'll just let a rooted stock do wonders for me...
I have seen once I change stock...switching from one rom to another becomes a temptation and then the phone rarely remains a phone.... I start feeling like a developer and keep on flashing roms...
Not on this device... I don't want to set up this device again and again with every new rom... Lets see.. Till how long can I resist!
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Depends on the user. Im not rooted but would do it to:
Use Viper4Android
Try out custom ROMs
Use mods like enableing front speaker playback for stereo sound
etc...
There are reasons, the question is do you need it.
I haven't rooted yet but I am going to.
- adblocker
- Titanium backup
- Viper4Android
- custom ROMs for customization
I had a Samsung device till recently and was using custom ROMs cause I hated how TouchWiz looks.
Now, stock OP5 might look similar to what I had but I still feel crippled.
I have to say though that the advantages of root don't make it a must have. I am using it stock cause I'm on holiday right now and could use it like this. It's definitely better than stock Samsung
I've never rooted for performance. I always root for extra customization options.
The root apps and options I'm using now are:
Substratum/ozone for middle clock and am/pm and a few other small ui tweaks.
Button backlight controller so the backlight on the buttons stay on while the screen is on. I mean by default, the LEDs are useless because they come on only after you press them. The point of the LED is to help you find them. So wtf.
Adblock, because a lot of sites can't even be viewed on mobile that have full screen ads or ads that cover content.
Stereo Speaker mod is pretty sweet. That's the main thing I miss from my Nexus 6p.
And I will definitely be switching to a rom as soon as they are stable enough. Things that OOS did right, they only kinda did right. Sure, they have a circle battery, great job. But you can't put the percent inside of it? No hold back button to kill a misbehaving app? Really?
I have to root. Don't know why, but i have to.
Actually I do it for adblocking, viper, and custom ROMs. So far, with the crazy battery life I am getting.... I am sticking with rooted, stock ROM and kernel.
And for those who don't root and still want adblocking: try fdroid with DNS66
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As been said before: my main reason for rooting is backup (TiBu) ! Its actually the only reason left that I could not replace by other means.
Other reasons are: ad blocking (but there are rootless solutions that do ok), customization (but could live without if need be) and debloating (also with TiBu plus MyAndroidTools) for improved battery life.
invinciblecc said:
Honestly guys
Give me one good reason for wanting to do this hey I cannot think of one
I have owned a lot of phones previously first of all
The souled best I have owned a Samsung Galaxy S2
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and the only reason I had to do root those phojes
Not enough ram for multitasking purposes
Had to root so that more apps can stay in memory.
With an is as light as this....
Dont really have a need to debloat
Dont use titanium backup much
Only one reason i can think of adblocking
Thinking about it now
The reason why we had to root phones was to squeeze more performance out of them..
And my general experience is rooting though helps
It doesn't lead to an idea phone state where everything works.
Some small bugs around the edges are left which can be as annoying as you want then to be...
So anyone here who can give me better reasons for wanting to root this device
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For me, the main reason is Titanium. Just because you don't care, doesn't mean that no one does. Root can do a lot. I use greenify, have that battery monitor app, etc. All use root.
I've rooted every android device I've ever owned prior to the OP5 first and foremost because I'm a bit of a tech nerd so naturally I like tinkering with electronics. I was able to add a bunch of useful features and enhancements through exploring root. But with the OP5, only thing I see that I would need root for is a proper ad blocking solution.
Bottom line is that most devices now a days work fine for daily use out of the box but everyone has individual reasons why they root. Same justification as to why some of us modify our cars. They drive fine in stock trim, but some of us want to make it our own.
invinciblecc said:
Honestly guys
Give me one good reason for wanting to do this hey I cannot think of one
I have owned a lot of phones previously first of all
The souled best I have owned a Samsung Galaxy S2
Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and the only reason I had to do root those phojes
Not enough ram for multitasking purposes
Had to root so that more apps can stay in memory.
With an is as light as this....
Dont really have a need to debloat
Dont use titanium backup much
Only one reason i can think of adblocking
Thinking about it now
The reason why we had to root phones was to squeeze more performance out of them..
And my general experience is rooting though helps
It doesn't lead to an idea phone state where everything works.
Some small bugs around the edges are left which can be as annoying as you want then to be...
So anyone here who can give me better reasons for wanting to root this device
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Totally agreeing with you. There isn't much of a need to root the phone, but I still root mine for the hell of it. Haven't done anything yet that requires root though. Still, it's nice having the option there.
invinciblecc said:
Maybe I'll just let a rooted stock do wonders for me...
I have seen once I change stock...switching from one rom to another becomes a temptation and then the phone rarely remains a phone.... I start feeling like a developer and keep on flashing roms...
Not on this device... I don't want to set up this device again and again with every new rom... Lets see.. Till how long can I resist!
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Actually a really good point, I too often end up rooting, checking out some roms, want more customisation and all of a sudden I've flashed my device 17 times over and spent more time setting the same stuff up over and over. It's that elusive "I just need this one more tweak sh*t to make my phone perfect"....when there's no such thing as a perfect device
Is there a way to root the Samsung s10 plus?
Magisk, patch boot image and flash it with odin.
**Didn't try it** since i don't need root, but it was the way to root all my previous phone without TWRP.
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Is there a way to root the Samsung s10 plus?
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Cannot be done yet. Stay tuned to the forums (particularly Rom/kernel/dev dicussion etc.) for updates on TWRP & Magisk support for the S10/S10+/S10e
Yeah, awaiting to root my 975F too.
rodrigofd said:
Cannot be done yet. Stay tuned to the forums (particularly Rom/kernel/dev dicussion etc.) for updates on TWRP & Magisk support for the S10/S10+/S10e
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Why? Magisk Canary support s10, right? https://www.xda-developers.com/magisk-canary-update-support-aonly-system-root-android-pie/
Looking forward to root my S10+ (G975F)
Hopefully Customs Roms too
Root Samsung Galxy S10 plus using Magisk canary
Here is a detailed guide on How to Root Samsung Galaxy S10/S10+/S10e using Magisk canary. Do remember that Samsung has introduced "Vaultkeeper" feature which makes it a little different to root latest Samsung devices.
Who would want to root a device like this!? And why?
leoking3 said:
Who would want to root a device like this!? And why?
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Samsung has made these steps complicated so that only the most enthusiastic people would want to try rooting.
Android manufacturers are starting to follow the footsteps of Apple. They are also not wanting people to mess with their devices. Huawei has also stopped providing unlock codes for their smartphones.
not sure why exactly you want to root s10+.
you can customize this device 100% and also block all those bloatwares without rooting.. so think again
There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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Eudeferrer said:
There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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well, im a user who used to root every single samsung device. but i never root my s10. i managed to block ALL my ads using adguard. Why would i need Titanium backup when i can use package disabler and do the same thing (oh and by the way i still have a Pro titanium key and i love that app). i dont see a big difference between disabling bloatwares and uninstalling them. as long as they are not coming up im ok with that.
Try and search the disadvantages of rooting. Last time yes, you need to root your device to customize but now without root you can use your phone with all those so called unlocked features. just FYI my battery last for 26hours+ with 7-8 hours SOT.
Just my 2cents
happy rooting.
Cyberhamxa said:
Here is a detailed guide on How to Root Samsung Galaxy S10/S10+/S10e using Magisk canary. Do remember that Samsung has introduced "Vaultkeeper" feature which makes it a little different to root latest Samsung devices.
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This is only for the international S10 plus right? Thanks In advance!!!
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone.
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well, im a user who used to root every single samsung device. but i never root my s10. i managed to block ALL my ads using adguard. Why would i need Titanium backup when i can use package disabler and do the same thing (oh and by the way i still have a Pro titanium key and i love that app). i dont see a big difference between disabling bloatwares and uninstalling them. as long as they are not coming up im ok with that.
Try and search the disadvantages of rooting. Last time yes, you need to root your device to customize but now without root you can use your phone with all those so called unlocked features. just FYI my battery last for 26hours+ with 7-8 hours SOT.
Just my 2cents
happy rooting.
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds, which means you can and will still see adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period, so the only way is through root. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. In addition, there are certain levels of customization which can only be optained through rooting ex.. 3minit battery, etc... .And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager. Yes, I agree root is less of a necessity today than it was years ago. However, for some, it is essential and a choice they don't wish to relinquish to OEMs. Yes, there are genuine dangers to rooting. But it is a choice each individual should make for themselves, not one made by the OEM. Just, my 2 cents.
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wouldn't root a phone when using samsung pay and pass.
used to do titanium backup and remove unused apps but when system update comes, i couldn't restore them to original condition and thus no way to update.
not taking the flash update route.
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There are many reasons to want to root a device which include systemwide add blocking, Titanium backup, uninstalling rather than disabling bloatware, etc. Perhaps this way of thinking of the reason for why the majority of new Pixel 3Xl buyers came from Samsung devices. https://www.androidauthority.com/google-pixel-3-churn-report-974588/
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First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. First, Adguard is NOT a systemwide blocker of adds, which means you can and will still see adds. Second, some people like me, do not want any adds period, so the only way is through root. Third, Package disabler cannot backup app content like Titanium can. It only allows you to disable the app, which means these apps still take room in your phone. In addition, there are certain levels of customization which can only be optained through rooting ex.. 3minit battery, etc... .And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager. Yes, I agree root is less of a necessity today than it was years ago. However, for some, it is essential and a choice they don't wish to relinquish to OEMs. Yes, there are genuine dangers to rooting. But it is a choice each individual should make for themselves, not one made by the OEM. Just, my 2 cents.
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I do know Adguard is not a Systemwide blocker. But it does a very good job blocking ads which is exactly what i want. To me the end result is what matters.
Do you think only titanium can backup your apps data? there are so many apps which can do this without rooting your phone. And im surprised you're talking about your phone space. You do know that s10+ is a high end phone which has a 128GB inbuilt and can extend that to another 512 GB if im not mistaken right? system apps/bloatwares wont even take a GB of your phones space.
> And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager.
I do not wish to make it even better. because i've already tweaked this to the max and whats the point tweaking some more? when you have a powerful phone. Also only a small % of people do these kind of kernel changes.
battery mod all just a reason you tell yourself just coz you wanted to root your phone. Surely you can find an alternate method.
Anyways if anyone ask me about rooting s10 variants i will say dont. warranty gone, samsung pay - gone (one of the best payment method), updates need to do it manually.. some of the secure payment / banking apps wont work.
Well but i do agree with you on one thing. It's individual preference. If i decided to root i will defend my choice by talking about all those advantages. And if i choose not to root i will be talking about the disadvantages lol.
But really now a days rooting a powerful device doesnt make any sense at all - at least to an average user. im really enjoying my s10+ with nova launcher+good look customization+KWGT widgets+package disabler+adguard. It's almost like a rooted device for me now
some additional features are just a step away without rooting. simply setup adb on your pc, connect your phone with usb debugging and send some adb commands to allow WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS, CHANGE_CONFIGURATION, DUMP, depending on the app requirements.
for my use case, i had tasker and secure settings app.
on landscape orientation, it would automatically change input method to minuum (low profile keyboard). used to be using multiling though.
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I do know Adguard is not a Systemwide blocker. But it does a very good job blocking ads which is exactly what i want. To me the end result is what matters.
Do you think only titanium can backup your apps data? there are so many apps which can do this without rooting your phone. And im surprised you're talking about your phone space. You do know that s10+ is a high end phone which has a 128GB inbuilt and can extend that to another 512 GB if im not mistaken right? system apps/bloatwares wont even take a GB of your phones space.
> And while your may get great battery life, it could be even better if you could tweak your kernel with FK Kernel manager.
I do not wish to make it even better. because i've already tweaked this to the max and whats the point tweaking some more? when you have a powerful phone. Also only a small % of people do these kind of kernel changes.
battery mod all just a reason you tell yourself just coz you wanted to root your phone. Surely you can find an alternate method.
Anyways if anyone ask me about rooting s10 variants i will say dont. warranty gone, samsung pay - gone (one of the best payment method), updates need to do it manually.. some of the secure payment / banking apps wont work.
Well but i do agree with you on one thing. It's individual preference. If i decided to root i will defend my choice by talking about all those advantages. And if i choose not to root i will be talking about the disadvantages lol.
But really now a days rooting a powerful device doesnt make any sense at all - at least to an average user. im really enjoying my s10+ with nova launcher+good look customization+KWGT widgets+package disabler+adguard. It's almost like a rooted device for me now
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To my knowledge, Titanium IS the best and only app thst can backup APK content fully, quickly and effectively. If you knows if another app that can backup APK data without root effectively please share. I would love to try it. There are thousands of apps that will backup you APKs, but none will backup their data. I have tried too many to only be disappointed at the end. If Google was able to do this effectively, I would surely stop rooting phones.
Not everyone needs a Terrabyte of capacity in their phone. It's a phone, for God's sake. I keep tens of thousands of pics and videos on mine, and still have plenty of room left; and because it's a Pixel, they are also saved in their original resolution on the cloud and are synced and available on any and all devices I log into. I also have over 230 apps installed and have plenty of room left. I won't argue that it's nicer to have more space than not, but IMO, it's not necessary for most people. It's mostly a strategy to keep getting people to buy a newer model with more this or that. Sure, a Pentabyte of space would be even better to have but I will never need it on my phones.
BTW never met anyone before who said they "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone". Given a chance, I think most people would tweak it to improve it.You must be pretty lucky with your phone. I've already seen forums about the battery life on the S10+ and how to make it better. The one one battery optimization is already 35 pages long! Either you are a light user, or you got very lucky with your phone.
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To my knowledge, Titanium IS the best and only app thst can backup APK content fully, quickly and effectively. If you knows if another app that can backup APK data without root effectively please share. I would love to try it. There are thousands of apps that will backup you APKs, but none will backup their data. I have tried too many to only be disappointed at the end. If Google was able to do this effectively, I would surely stop rooting phones.
Not everyone needs a Terrabyte of capacity in their phone. It's a phone, for God's sake. I keep tens of thousands of pics and videos on mine, and still have plenty of room left; and because it's a Pixel, they are also saved in their original resolution on the cloud and are synced and available on any and all devices I log into. I also have over 230 apps installed and have plenty of room left. I won't argue that it's nicer to have more space than not, but IMO, it's not necessary for most people. It's mostly a strategy to keep getting people to buy a newer model with more this or that. Sure, a Pentabyte of space would be even better to have but I will never need it on my phones.
BTW never met anyone before who said they "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone". Given a chance, I think most people would tweak it to improve it.You must be pretty lucky with your phone. I've already seen forums about the battery life on the S10+ and how to make it better. The one one battery optimization is already 35 pages long! Either you are a light user, or you got very lucky with your phone.
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To your very own knowledge you say Titanium is the best, ok fine. thats perfectly fine. Because there was this one time i was so obsessed with Titanium and that app was the 1st app i will ever install soon after rooting my device.
Reg backing up data, i do agree, that is a challenge. without rooting its difficult, but its NOT impossible. i transferred all my s9+ apps/data to s10+ without any issues. You know how? nowadays 90% apps have inbuilt backup solution. So you can easily backup your data to cloud etc. That way you can restore them without any issue. The only app data i had to redo - Duo security.
Yes, I do agree, no one ever need terabyte of capacity. I only have 256GB and I also have thousands of photos/videos. Why do you need to save tens of thousands of pics and videos in your mobile? it's a phone, for gods sake. You do know that you can backup to cloud and remove those photos. That way you can save space. So if you have enough space, why you're bothered about "disabled" apps vs uninstalled apps?
Do you know why i said "didn't have a need for a better battery life on their phone"? I'm a s10+ user. S10+ is a very very powerful phone with a very good battery capacity/hardware etc. I'm not a light user. People having issues with s10+ battery coz they dunno how to tweak their device. Just because there are 1001 tips to save battery, its not necessary to do them all. For example, people say reduce brightness, reduce the resolution, screen type etc. Whats the point doing all those things when you own a powerful, expensive phone? You MUST use some of those nice features without thinking much about battery usage. That's why i said I'm against doing every single things to save even 0.1% battery. I will only do reasonable tweaks and if my phone can give me 24hr + battery life then im more than happy.
Do you know that a lot of people dont use android Facebook app coz they all think it will drain the battery etc? i know that, but im still using FB, instagram etc etc. May be like you said you've never met a person who said i tweaked enough. But I've met them
I really respect all XDA devs. I still have 2 S7 devices with CF root + titanium backup etc etc. So its not that i dont like rooting. What im trying to tell you is, its not necessary to root. If you weigh the advantages / disadvantages, I only can see very few disadvantages.
You have no idea how many power hungry apps I have. I just know how to tweak them, block background access, block data access, use proper firewall etc. etc.
I'm not gonna argue with you whether rooting is good or not. Coz like i said, you have a fixed mindset that rooting is the only way. For that only im replying telling thats not the only way. Anyways, I have nothing against you. You root your device or dont root your device that got nothing to do with me. I'm just sharing that by rooting you gonna loose quite a lot of good features/apps + warranty. Last time we all had to take that risk (including me) because we literally had no choice. Now it's not like that.
Good luck, and for those who wish to root your s10+, please think again. That's all i can tell.
I downloaded the file on Tuesday and the phone has been working great. FYI, there is a wipe involved with the download. There's no warning before the fact it's during the setup.
Anyway, the phone has been great but last night, while charging, I noticed that the charging percentage and the time were not changing and the phone froze. My first freeze ever with any phone. The only thing I could think of was to hold the power button. After 4-5 , power button holds it recycled and came back.
One thing I noticed is that the phone, while charging, was warmer than usual and historically this phone doesn't get warm or hot.
Just a heads up, I may set up a chat with Oneplus just to see what they say
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I downloaded the file on Tuesday and the phone has been working great. FYI, there is a wipe involved with the download. There's no warning before the fact it's during the setup.
Anyway, the phone has been great but last night, while charging, I noticed that the charging percentage and the time were not changing and the phone froze. My first freeze ever with any phone. The only thing I could think of was to hold the power button. After 4-5 , power button holds it recycled and came back.
One thing I noticed is that the phone, while charging, was warmer than usual and historically this phone doesn't get warm or hot.
Just a heads up, I may set up a chat with Oneplus just to see what they say
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I guess you were on open beta. Its always like that if you "downgrade" from beta to stable there is a wipe involved.
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I guess you were on open beta. Its always like that if you "downgrade" from beta to stable there is a wipe involved.
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I was on beta but now I'm on the final, which I downloaded Tuesday. From my chat with OP ,minutes ago, they told me to clear the cache from the power menu and report back to them if this happens again.
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I was on beta but now I'm on the final, which I downloaded Tuesday. From my chat with OP ,minutes ago, they told me to clear the cache from the power menu and report back to them if this happens again.
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Recovery then wipe system..you'll need to reset up your phone but your storage will remain intact..
May be another way but not sure.
We're you rooted? Did you disable magisk mods before hand?
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Recovery then wipe system..you'll need to reset up your phone but your storage will remain intact..
May be another way but not sure.
We're you rooted? Did you disable magisk mods before hand?
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I'm actully not rooted. After reading the pros and cons I don't know if I need it at this point. After you leave a Verizon Samsung phone then go to a Pixel and now the 8 pro, it's pretty stripped compared.
After chatting with OP , the cache clearing so far has helped.
Thanks!
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I'm actully not rooted. After reading the pros and cons I don't know if I need it at this point. After you leave a Verizon Samsung phone then go to a Pixel and now the 8 pro, it's pretty stripped compared.
After chatting with OP , the cache clearing so far has helped.
Thanks!
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Definitely a tonne of benefits to rooting.
To name a few:
Backing up and restoring apps and their data as they are.
Proper ad blocking system wide.
Modifying the phone: centre clock, removing zram.
Magisk mods
Root apps like WiFi kill, Kali, system UI tuner
Kernels
Magisk ROMs
Full ROMs
I couldn't have an android phone without rooting. I've lived with a Huawei so I know how dull it gets.
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Definitely a tonne of benefits to rooting.
To name a few:
Backing up and restoring apps and their data as they are.
Proper ad blocking system wide.
Modifying the phone: centre clock, removing zram.
Magisk mods
Root apps like WiFi kill, Kali, system UI tuner
Kernels
Magisk ROMs
Full ROMs
I couldn't have an android phone without rooting. I've lived with a Huawei so I know how dull it gets.
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On the routing your making me curious-
Backing up and restoring apps and their data as they are.- not sure what this does
Proper ad blocking system wide.- add blocking where, Google, Facebook etc?
Modifying the phone: centre clock, removing zram.- I'm ok with the clock, what is zram?
Magisk mods- have never used them, but back in the day when I had my Note 4 there was a cool prgram for rooting that had all kinds of mods and tools
Root apps like WiFi kill, Kali, system UI tuner- not sure how that benefits me
Kernels- not sure what they do
Magisk ROMs- I see them here talked about alot
Full ROMs- When I had my Note 4 I tried roms all the time. They were cool but there was always some kind of bugginess about them
Since my Note 4, I've been out of the rooting game.
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On the routing your making me curious-
Backing up and restoring apps and their data as they are.- not sure what this does
Proper ad blocking system wide.- add blocking where, Google, Facebook etc?
Modifying the phone: centre clock, removing zram.- I'm ok with the clock, what is zram?
Magisk mods- have never used them, but back in the day when I had my Note 4 there was a cool prgram for rooting that had all kinds of mods and tools
Root apps like WiFi kill, Kali, system UI tuner- not sure how that benefits me
Kernels- not sure what they do
Magisk ROMs- I see them here talked about alot
Full ROMs- When I had my Note 4 I tried roms all the time. They were cool but there was always some kind of bugginess about them
Since my Note 4, I've been out of the rooting game.
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Titanium can back up or remove any app as it is. If you remove let's say a game you'll lose all progress unless you have a sync feature.
The only add blocking you can have without root is using a fake VPN, it's overkill and not as efficient at removing ads. And yes ads from the whole device and all apps.
Zram ? Google it.
Magisk - yes the mod is magisk.
Not sure how they benefit you? I'm losing the will to live here, they were examples, you find what you need.
Kernels - Google it
Note 4 I had it myself, some of the absolute worst examples of ROMs on XDA.
You crack on at stock you seem happier there.
It was just a suggestion. Nvm
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Titanium can back up or remove any app as it is. If you remove let's say a game you'll lose all progress unless you have a sync feature.
The only add blocking you can have without root is using a fake VPN, it's overkill and not as efficient at removing ads. And yes ads from the whole device and all apps.
Zram ? Google it.
Magisk - yes the mod is magisk.
Not sure how they benefit you? I'm losing the will to live here, they were examples, you find what you need.
Kernels - Google it
Note 4 I had it myself, some of the absolute worst examples of ROMs on XDA.
You crack on at stock you seem happier there.
It was just a suggestion. Nvm
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Thanks for writing back. For me I'm a performance junky. I'm not a gamer just a surfer that wants a high octane machine, if possible. Does rooting do that? I remember Titanium from the past , good tool and you have to be careful is what I remember.
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Thanks for writing back. For me I'm a performance junky. I'm not a gamer just a surfer that wants a high octane machine, if possible. Does rooting do that? I remember Titanium from the past , good tool and you have to be careful is what I remember.
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Nah titanium is safe.
Does rooting help with speed, I would say so yes, I've made a phone run an emulator it had no business running..
Mainly through zram being disabled and having a kernel that allows a higher clock speed, plus the ROM I was running being as light and efficient as possible..
Stock simply cannot compare with that.
Everyone on here wants the fastest phone, the 865 in the 8 pro is the fastest processor there is..it's quicker than the Nvidia shield pro which I have, it can run things that the shield can't..
Performance isn't an issue with way, but yes being rooted opens doors that just don't exist for stock.
To play devil's advocate on the rooting thing...
I've been doing the android thing since gingerbread (good 7+ years). Back then it was an absolute MUST. These days not so much.
Most of the reasons to root back then was to add features that weren't available in Android stock ROMs at the time.
Let me give you some CONs to rooting before you jump into it...if these don't apply then have at it and have fun. It's fairly easy to do on this phone and once you have TWRP up and running you can pretty much revert any screw up and get your phone back up and running and have fun with tinkering.
1.) Do you enjoy Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube TV (TV service not YouTube app), or any other app that requires Winevine DRM encryption? OnePlus devices drop from L1 to L3 once you unlock the bootloader (requirement for root). Those apps will now all be at 480P 30FPS instead of 720p/1080p or 60 FPS. Total deal breaker for me watching sports on the road need the 60 FPS.
2.) Do you like to use GPay? It can work but it's a cat/mouse game with Google Play Services.
3.) It's fun theming with Substratum but every time there's an app update you have to hope it doesn't bork the theme. Gotta install an OTA? Disable all your modules, uninstall your themes, flash, and then re-enable. Tedious. Maybe I"m getting older but wife, kids, family stuff I don't want to be messing around with all this?
4.) Want ad-blocking? Blokada works excellent. I have an old rooted tablet (Tab S3) and it uses AdAway. Both effectively block my ads. Also I run a personal VPN at my house with PiHole so I can block that way too by connecting to my home VPN on the road.
5.) Swift Backup will backup most of your apps without root. It'll restore them without data. I've never in the 7 years of messing with Android had a perfect 1:1 restore with TWRP and Titanium Backup.. There's always little things that act up. Not a deal breaker these days missing Titanium Backup. Especially when not root and constantly mucking with the system it's usually pretty rock solid not requiring a constant TWRP/Titanium solution.
6.) Most praise Viper4Android. Great app. Stock it sounds fine for portable use. No phone DAC is going to compete with dedicated equipment so you're basically polishing a turd. There's better equipment out there to get solid audio. Phone isn't one of them.
7.) I haven't looked into rooting this phone for months so my last point is dated and I believe there is a fix but last i checked (once again a few months back haven't been on XDA for a bit) there were some serious fingerprint loss when unlocking the bootloader and then trying to relock or use MSMTool to go back to stock.
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To play devil's advocate on the rooting thing...
I've been doing the android thing since gingerbread (good 7+ years). Back then it was an absolute MUST. These days not so much.
Most of the reasons to root back then was to add features that weren't available in Android stock ROMs at the time.
Let me give you some CONs to rooting before you jump into it...if these don't apply then have at it and have fun. It's fairly easy to do on this phone and once you have TWRP up and running you can pretty much revert any screw up and get your phone back up and running and have fun with tinkering.
1.) Do you enjoy Netflix, Amazon Prime Video, YouTube TV (TV service not YouTube app), or any other app that requires Winevine DRM encryption? OnePlus devices drop from L1 to L3 once you unlock the bootloader (requirement for root). Those apps will now all be at 480P 30FPS instead of 720p/1080p or 60 FPS. Total deal breaker for me watching sports on the road need the 60 FPS.
2.) Do you like to use GPay? It can work but it's a cat/mouse game with Google Play Services.
3.) It's fun theming with Substratum but every time there's an app update you have to hope it doesn't bork the theme. Gotta install an OTA? Disable all your modules, uninstall your themes, flash, and then re-enable. Tedious. Maybe I"m getting older but wife, kids, family stuff I don't want to be messing around with all this?
4.) Want ad-blocking? Blokada works excellent. I have an old rooted tablet (Tab S3) and it uses AdAway. Both effectively block my ads. Also I run a personal VPN at my house with PiHole so I can block that way too by connecting to my home VPN on the road.
5.) Swift Backup will backup most of your apps without root. It'll restore them without data. I've never in the 7 years of messing with Android had a perfect 1:1 restore with TWRP and Titanium Backup.. There's always little things that act up. Not a deal breaker these days missing Titanium Backup. Especially when not root and constantly mucking with the system it's usually pretty rock solid not requiring a constant TWRP/Titanium solution.
6.) Most praise Viper4Android. Great app. Stock it sounds fine for portable use. No phone DAC is going to compete with dedicated equipment so you're basically polishing a turd. There's better equipment out there to get solid audio. Phone isn't one of them.
7.) I haven't looked into rooting this phone for months so my last point is dated and I believe there is a fix but last i checked (once again a few months back haven't been on XDA for a bit) there were some serious fingerprint loss when unlocking the bootloader and then trying to relock or use MSMTool to go back to stock.
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1- L1 remains after rooting
2- Gpay works as it should after rooting
3- Substratum theme dont break anything at least the ones I use
4- best seems Adaway - needs root
5- to save /data TWRP, fastest and easiest. Oneplus backup not bad
6- viper4android, that requires Root makes the sound much better on this phone
7- I never faced the fingerprints loss and anyway there is fix on the threads
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1- L1 remains after rooting
2- Gpay works as it should after rooting
3- Substratum theme dont break anything at least the ones I use
4- best seems Adaway - needs root
5- to save /data TWRP, fastest and easiest. Oneplus backup not bad
6- viper4android, that requires Root makes the sound much better on this phone
7- I never faced the fingerprints loss and anyway there is fix on the threads
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I was literally about to say all of this. +1111111
Spot on.
Weird thing for me these days is not needing twrp, it's always been my safety net, but it's just not needed these days, if they ever get rid of Fastboot then it's game over, I'll be buying an iPhone.
The great thing about OOS and magisk ROMs is it retains the goodness from stock and gives you the tweaks systemlessly. Which is nice and safety net passes.
I agree with all of the above.
But either way @ the OP you do you, I'll do me.
PS: I've been doing the android thing since the G1 which was doughnut I think it was it cupcake?
If something is a risk to you then you haven't looked into it enough, there is always a way back, which is where you learn the most about yourself and your device.
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Nah titanium is safe.
Does rooting help with speed, I would say so yes, I've made a phone run an emulator it had no business running..
Mainly through zram being disabled and having a kernel that allows a higher clock speed, plus the ROM I was running being as light and efficient as possible..
Stock simply cannot compare with that.
Everyone on here wants the fastest phone, the 865 in the 8 pro is the fastest processor there is..it's quicker than the Nvidia shield pro which I have, it can run things that the shield can't..
Performance isn't an issue with way, but yes being rooted opens doors that just don't exist for stock.
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You're making a good case for me to try it. What are the ABC's to get into rooting slowly and notice a difference?
Thanks for your help!
pbman1953 said:
You're making a good case for me to try it. What are the ABC's to get into rooting slowly and notice a difference?
Thanks for your help!
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I've got a root guide in the guides section..then I'd say check out xXx no limits, allows you to add a profile with a load of changes.. ..
Mods in themes section..
Kernels in development.