Overall love - Huawei Mate 20 X Real Life Review

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Huawei Mate 20 X, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Huawei Mate 20 X is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

a unique and amazing phone.

Best big phone ever!

Happy I have gone big. Never going back - until I drop it or have it stolen probably... !

Great phone.
Love the screen - size and quality.
Speakers are loud and clear.
I'm getting used to the gestures, but I miss the lower arrow down to drop the notification tray. There is no gesture to easily get the notification tray to expand.
Absolutely loving the M-Pen. I hate that it's a free-standing device though. Really needs to be built-in or at least have cases that hold it.
Love that it works on AT&T perfectly.
The camera and the camera AI have been a joy to use.
Very happy with this phone.

Love the size, speakers and many other things including the always on display. Miss the notification light though. I know it is because of the teardrop notch. Overall great phone.

Best phone of 2018. Get the international version which is available in Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore and Thailand.

Very disappointed.
Pros :
large screen
Good speakers
Snappy
Cons:
Any finger will unlock
Screen seems grainy
Nanomemory
No led notification
No pattern unlock
Can only wake up by power button
Lack of support and accessories
M pen worthless
Expensive
Somewhat unstable
Comming from the note 8 the only advantage is the screen size.

Coming from Samsung Galaxy S6 edge plus I can say fantastic phone, no lags, awesome battery life, beautiful pictures, purchased from Wondamobile, very satisfied, only concern is the security updates, still on October.

berkel said:
Pros :
large screen
Good speakers
Snappy
Cons:
Any finger will unlock
Screen seems grainy
Nanomemory
No led notification
No pattern unlock
Can only wake up by power button
Lack of support and accessories
M pen worthless
Expensive
Somewhat unstable
Comming from the note 8 the only advantage is the screen size.
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Most of those cons are just stupid shouldnt have got one if these pathetic reasons upset you,they ain't even cons I mean pattern unlock hahaha led and no tap to wake wow
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frankieboy1233 said:
Coming from Samsung Galaxy S6 edge plus I can say fantastic phone, no lags, awesome battery life, beautiful pictures, purchased from Wondamobile, very satisfied, only concern is the security updates, still on October.
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Hi how long did it take to deliver are you in the UK?I've also just got it from wondamobile

I have received it within a week, ordered on Saturday, arrived in Thursday.

Mate 20 X
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I have received it within a week, ordered on Saturday, arrived in Thursday.
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Ordered last night. Hoping to use it for note-taking in projects and working with MS Office files, relieving me of carrying both my Note 8 and my PC (travel PC currently Surface GO LTE), as well as my Samsung Tab S3 for note-taking.
My hopes are high!
Ron

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I have received it within a week, ordered on Saturday, arrived in Thursday.
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Cool thanks for the reply I ordered Sunday just gone,was yours shipped from Hong Kong but the l29 international version?

Yes, the international version.

frankieboy1233 said:
Yes, the international version.
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Hi Frankie, did you receive a Factory Sealed BOX ?

As I remember, I didn't, if you read the thread, Wondamobile opens it to install Google apps, but it wasn't a problem for me.

Received the L29 and been using it in US for 3 weeks. Exceeded my expectation.
Biggest pros:
Astounding battery life!
The size is perfect for note-taking in projects.
All of the Android functions work (including pattern unlock).
Found a case that holds the M-Pen and fits in my suit and blazer pocket.
Case turns on screen by opening.
Feels much zippier than my Note 8.
Cons:
Non-standard memory card (expensive, slow delivery).
Lingering concerns about sharing info with Chinese government.
So far, overall love!

ronr9286t said:
Received the L29 and been using it in US for 3 weeks. Exceeded my expectation.
Biggest pros:
Astounding battery life!
The size is perfect for note-taking in projects.
All of the Android functions work (including pattern unlock).
Found a case that holds the M-Pen and fits in my suit and blazer pocket.
Case turns on screen by opening.
Feels much zippier than my Note 8.
Cons:
Non-standard memory card (expensive, slow delivery).
Lingering concerns about sharing info with Chinese government.
So far, overall love!
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Worry if you only the stupid Trump ?

what do you mean by "any finger will unlock"?
berkel said:
Pros :
large screen
Good speakers
Snappy
Cons:
Any finger will unlock
Screen seems grainy
Nanomemory
No led notification
No pattern unlock
Can only wake up by power button
Lack of support and accessories
M pen worthless
Expensive
Somewhat unstable
Comming from the note 8 the only advantage is the screen size
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What do you mean by "any finger will unlock"?

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Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S9, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S9 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
jerry
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy S9, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy S9 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Samsung Galaxy S9 is a new experience
Just had a chance to use review unit of s9 . Camera and sound has some improvement but really disappointed that battery is still same size and has not changed since s7 ... S7 edge camera is still very much capable and if u just want to upgrade from s7 or s8 for camera then its not worth it in my opinion
Rajaasim1980 said:
Just had a chance to use review unit of s9 . Camera and sound has some improvement but really disappointed that battery is still same size and has not changed since s7 ... S7 edge camera is still very much capable and if u just want to upgrade from s7 or s8 for camera then its not worth it in my opinion
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Well, the cpu efficiency has changed... more ram is added, so 3500 could actually work out definitely better than s8 plus... which isnt bad on battery,
The Galaxy S9 is my first Android Phone and I switched from an iPhone 7 to it.
This Mobile is absolutely Genius. I just love it. The Dual Sim Option was the reson for the switch but after 2 days I can say I love all the features the Galaxy S9 has. I can recommend a switch to everyone.
Dual SIM? is it the regular device?
Muc_Tim said:
The Galaxy S9 is my first Android Phone and I switched from an iPhone 7 to it.
This Mobile is absolutely Genius. I just love it. The Dual Sim Option was the reson for the switch but after 2 days I can say I love all the features the Galaxy S9 has. I can recommend a switch to everyone.
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ate you using the standrd version?
is dual sim option available for all versions?
ronitbi said:
ate you using the standrd version?
is dual sim option available for all versions?
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Dual sim is a special version of the unlocked model (or maybe the standard version of the unlocked one, I haven't checked this year). You are able to slot a second sim in place of the SD card if you want to.
After 2 days, I can say I am really impressed with everything except the battery life, and I know that will get better as it stabilizes and I am not tweaking it constantly. I am especially impressed with the new speakers and the Atmos surround - the best movie sound I have heard on a phone yet!
I got the mobile from my carrier and they said they only have dual sim phones.
Love it!
Switched over from an iPhone 6S. I borrowed a Pixel (original) and then a very old Droid Maxx (painful!)
First 48 hours with the S9 Snapdragon have been really good, I think I actually prefer TouchWiz over vanilla Android Oreo on the Pixel.
Hardware quality is outstanding. I'm in love with the screen. AOD sounded like it would waste a lot of battery but doesn't seem to. It's really useful and keeps me from turning my phone on all the time to see if there are messages.
Bixby isn't awful, but I wish it worked with Signal for messaging. I will have to see if there's some way to make the two work together.
My biggest gripe is that annoying `high volume` warning that can't be disabled. I'm streaming to my car, the signal is supposed to be set to 100%.
Yes it is love, it is possible to love a phone you attached full day and night
It's soooo gooood! I came from an S6 so the improvements are nuts. I was asking myself if loving a phone was possible just yesterday
beekir said:
My biggest gripe is that annoying `high volume` warning that can't be disabled. I'm streaming to my car, the signal is supposed to be set to 100%.
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That right there is a loss of sale for SAMSUNG from me. To this day, it is my most annoying feature on my current phone. I want to punch the idiot who put this feature on the phones with no option of disabling.
kendoka15 said:
It's soooo gooood! I came from an S6 so the improvements are nuts. I was asking myself if loving a phone was possible just yesterday
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Coming from an S7, and the phone is a whole other thing, from design, speed, Infinity screen, etc. Really liking it so far!
Coming from phones like the HTC m8 and lg g5, I'm loving the Samsung rom. I do a few things to my phone such as get rid of the stock keyboard for the Google one, trash the stock launchers and do something like Nova or evie.
Things I find to be improvement over the phones I had before are the screen, sound, cameras, vibration feel, look of the phone, the water resistant rating, and the list could go on.
Battery life for me so far has been great. I know coming from an s7-8 might not feel like a large jump but compared to other phones it's a great choice.
One thing I don't like so far is knox. Every other phone I had has been fine to root and keeping features no problem.
Got the s9 last week. First Samsung phone. Kept away because of the infamous lag of touchwiz until a friend told me lag has gone after oreo update on his 8+.
Had a fully customized 6p before. I can't believe how good this phone feels. Nothing wanting and I no longer have the urge to unlock and root, something I've always done straight after getting a new phone.
There's also a promotional 2 year warranty period. Amazing. Tried the plus but don't get the affinity I have for this one.
tl;dr loving my S9
Finally pulled the trigger last week monday and got myself an S9 unlocked. Also helped that my local Best Buy was tossing in the Gear 360 for free with purchase. I also purchased a Speck Presidio Clear case for the phone but the coral blue is really nice when the back isn't smudged to the point that I'm running the phone naked: the only case I'm using for it atm is a microfiber sunglasses sack which I slide the phone into when pocketing it and place the phone on top of when setting it down on something like a table or countertop. Helps keep the glass decently clean and pretty much minimizes potential foreign particulates in my pockets scratching the glass.
That being said, this is the first phone I've had where the honeymoon period for me went by as fast as the end of the 2nd day of having the device.
TerrySanchez said:
Yes it is love, it is possible to love a phone you attached full day and night
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Definitely! If you use your phone a lot it can be one of your best friends. Good camera, great design, right usability. I believe there is a million reasons why you can love your phone.
It's not love, it's attachment
You cannot love an inanimate object, you can however become so attached and reliant on one that you cannot imagine being without it, but it is not love
If you really 'love' your phone, you need locking up
I "loved" my S7, but the second I got my S9 I sold my S7, if I really loved it, I would still have it, I would still use it, I would carry it with me everywhere, I would think about it constantly, there would be no way I could allow a stranger to own it
Not love, attachment, which instantly dies when it is upgraded to a better model
Hi all,
I've upgraded from an S6 to the S9. The current trade-in promotion got me convinced, I've got a recycling discount on the S6 and a carrier discount so that smoothed the deal.
I was positively surprised by the lack of bloat on the device, it even let me choose which apps to install during the setup. I disabled all the Samsung apps. The usual bloat like Onedrive, Word, Facebook, Dropbox remained.
Its an EU device, so Exynos and ISOCELL, but I'm quite satisfied.
My S6 served me 2 years and should've been able to serve longer if it'd stop overheating, hence the upgrade. Looking forward to having the S9 for at least the same lifespan.
Like the phone and everything about it, EXCEPT that the battery sux bigtime.. I'm coming from a Huawei with a much larger battery and the S9 isn't lasting one day at all..

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Huawei P20, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Huawei P20 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I like so many things about P20 and few don't, P20 pro is not worth the money even if it 3 cam or highest rated on DxO , I got Sony A7 full frame mirrorless which no future phone can match at least for next five years
Good: Dual SIM as standard with most UK retailer
Design, front fingerprint reader
8.1 out of box
Huawei's customer service
Dolby Atmos
Reasonable price and even better with £320 Bose headphones
4 GB ram is not flagship class but acceptable
Bad: poor IP rating
No autofocus front cam with wasted megapixel (24 MP) what's the point ?
No FM radio
No infrared
Screen resolution is ok but screen quality is not on par with Sony, Samsung, LG or HTC
main snapper is too good on paper but in actual test I found not much visible improvement compared with last year's model
Given the size of battery , the battery life will dafinatly not better than P20 pro, Mate 10 pro, OnePlus 5, or Galaxy S9
Given the scenario I will go with Huawei mate 10 pro
onlinejobwork said:
I like so many things about P20 and few don't, P20 pro is not worth the money even if it 3 cam or highest rated on DxO , I got Sony A7 full frame mirrorless which no future phone can match at least for next five years
Good: Dual SIM as standard with most UK retailer
Design, front fingerprint reader
8.1 out of box
Huawei's customer service
Dolby Atmos
Reasonable price and even better with £320 Bose headphones
4 GB ram is not flagship class but acceptable
Bad: poor IP rating
No autofocus front cam with wasted megapixel (24 MP) what's the point ?
No FM radio
No infrared
Screen resolution is ok but screen quality is not on par with Sony, Samsung, LG or HTC
main snapper is too good on paper but in actual test I found not much visible improvement compared with last year's model
Given the size of battery , the battery life will dafinatly not better than P20 pro, Mate 10 pro, OnePlus 5, or Galaxy S9
Given the scenario I will go with Huawei mate 10 pro
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Full Huawei range
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https://www.anandtech.com/show/12195/hisilicon-kirin-970-power-performance-overview
onlinejobwork said:
Full Huawei range
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Just found out that device sold by retailer like Voda, EE, cpw does have micro SD slot and NOT have dual SIM
onlinejobwork said:
Just found out that device sold by retailer like Voda, EE, cpw does have micro SD slot and NOT have dual SIM
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is this confirmed somewhere? Does anybody sell it dualsim in the UK?
I preordered mine from cpw and will surely return it if it's not dualsim as it's a dealbreaker for me.
varignet said:
is this confirmed somewhere? Does anybody sell it dualsim in the UK?
I preordered mine from cpw and will surely return it if it's not dualsim as it's a dealbreaker for me.
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Same here, Carphonewarehouse one is NOT dual SIM , big disappointment
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varignet said:
is this confirmed somewhere? Does anybody sell it dualsim in the UK?
I preordered mine from cpw and will surely return it if it's not dualsim as it's a dealbreaker for me.
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I can confined , I got mine yesterday and it's not dual SIM
Anyone else having serious lag in Google maps?
Previously: Huawei messed something up in the past on P10 and map on satellite mode worked like s**t but they fixed on Emui 8.
However now on my P20 everything is slow and freezes in Google Maps, will check logcat for anything strange.
paul678 said:
Anyone else having serious lag in Google maps?
Previously: Huawei messed something up in the past on P10 and map on satellite mode worked like s**t but they fixed on Emui 8.
However now on my P20 everything is slow and freezes in Google Maps, will check logcat for anything strange.
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I don't have any issues with Maps on my P20 paul678, Satellite view does however take 2-3 seconds to load but is fine after that.
paulrod said:
I don't have any issues with Maps on my P20 paul678, Satellite view does however take 2-3 seconds to load but is fine after that.
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For me the map itself is ok, scroll/pan/zoom works pretty well.
The problems appear when pressing the top search..that takes some time to react and a similar problem when doing a long press to drop a pin and then try to open the bottom sheet that contains details.
Can you check to see if you have problems with the above mentioned scenarios?
Love this handset overall. Battery life is great, camera is great, screen is great, sound is great (which was a big bone of contention with me coming from LG V20!).
Please add section on real-life review for Audio Quality! Both speaker and headphones (wired and wireless!).
P20 Lcd Problem(yellow screen where the navigation buttons are)
Hi Xda
First of all i want to say that the lcd screen looks great BUT i replaced my device for a third time but still no luck... The screen on the virtualbuttons is yellowish then the rest of the screen... Its the screen just above the touchbutton or on the virtual navigation buttons... Does someone has this also please comment, thank you!
Ieozt38 said:
Hi Xda
First of all i want to say that the lcd screen looks great BUT i replaced my device for a third time but still no luck... The screen on the virtualbuttons is yellowish then the rest of the screen... Its the screen just above the touchbutton or on the virtual navigation buttons... Does someone has this also please comment, thank you!
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Hi, I deactivated the on screen buttons a while ago, find more convenient using the multifunctional home button. I had the impression of yellow on the buttons bar also before, more a software issue to me.
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bolof2 said:
Hi, I deactivated the on screen buttons
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Its still yellow without the screenbuttons i just wanted to explain where the yellowish area is located. Received 3rd device still problem occurs, im switching to iphone x
I replaced my Zuk Z2 Pro with the P20. French n°1 telecom company made a price mistake and sold it for 249€ for about 15 minutes. It was the perfect occasion to change my phone.
Pros :
- Screen. Quality is just under the Z2 Pro AMOLED, but it's nice, big, reactive.
- Battery. It lasts way longer than what became the Z2 Pro battery
- Power. Obviously, nowadays, every phone allows you to do everything quickly when you're not into gaming
- Quality. The phone looks like it's perfectly build.
- Huawei offers, in France, the Freebuds with the phone (12 weeks to receive them, so I don't know if they are good)
- Bundle is nice : silicon case and noise reduction earphones (I don't like them, but
Cons :
- EMUI. I've been on custom ROMs over the last 5 years, and, OMG, it's very hard to be on a OEM ROM with so many limitation. Simply expand notification on the lockscreen or skipping a track with Vol+ or - is impossible. It induces erratic behaviour in some apps (no notifications from Telegram, even if all parameters are the same than Whatsapp), etc...
- Locked bootloader. I missed the news of Huawei preventing unlocking after the 25th of July. I hope there will be a solution soon for that.
- The charger. Every other charger than a SuperCharge one will charge the phone veeeeeeeeery slowly. My car charger, 2,1A, can't even charge the phone when Waze is on... My QC3 power bank becomes almost useless. As soon as the battery of the P20 will last less than a day, I will be annoyed. I hope it will never happen.
- Size : it's 4mm higher than the Zuk Z2 Pro, and it's 4mm too much. To fit in my pocket, the perfect size is 145mm.
- Phone Clone did not work with my Zuk Z2 Pro, it was a pain to import all the datas
- No SD card : risk of losing everything if the telephone is lost or whatever. To retrieve datas from one phone to another, SD Card is the most practicle
I'm waiting for the Mi 8 SE to be released in France with the right LTE frequencies, or an equivalent phone. I'll then sell my P20.
Excelente!
paul678 said:
For me the map itself is ok, scroll/pan/zoom works pretty well.
The problems appear when pressing the top search..that takes some time to react and a similar problem when doing a long press to drop a pin and then try to open the bottom sheet that contains details.
Can you check to see if you have problems with the above mentioned scenarios?
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I have exactly same problems as you describe, but to be noted: I did not update the phone since I first started it so... that might be the problem because it is urging me to update like every day (and the fix might be in some later build)....
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I have exactly same problems as you describe, but to be noted: I did not update the phone since I first started it so... that might be the problem because it is urging me to update like every day (and the fix might be in some later build)....
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Lol should probably update
I never thought of this as a "flagship" phone and honestly it isn't. It's an expensive mid-range device.
As far as rating from 1 (worst) to 5 (best)
1. Screen - 5 Sharp and colorful. I like this display, I think Huawei phones with LCDs are top notch screens, their Amoled screens they use are not so much.
2. form/size/ - 4 Perfect size for those who aren't looking for a large device- People coming from Samsung Note, and Pluses, iPhone pluses- look elswhere, this phone will feel significantly smaller. Still not 5 though. The aspect ratio is just kinda weird. I actually wish if was wider a bit, because using it landscape mode in navigation, half the screen is gone with the GPS GUI with the map is only 1/3, same issue with lots of other apps. This problem isn't only this phone specific, many other phones narrowing down their display size, like its some sort of a trend now, I'm not very happy about it.
3. Operating system - 2 While it has improved over the last couple of years, EMUI is still laggy. I can't pinpoint the real issue, since I'm not a developer but it seems like touch /sensitivy issues. I saw some complains regarding dead areas/less sensitive spots on some Huawei devices, and it seems like a recurring problem on more than just one model. There is also that sense of lacking fluidity. Anyone who used pure Google Android or near stock, or iOS or even Touchwiz will notice a sense of disconnect between touch input and reaction time in EMUI, and sometimes hang ups and delays, other times it's reacting too fast . It's hard to demonstrate, because even if someone would make a video, it's more of a feeling kinda thing, while using the device, a video wouldn't really show the issue.
There is also a sense of incompatibility while using even popular apps, whether they lag at some point or the app has to be restarted or even crash. Or have the app work as intended and then suspended in memory, return and the app would lag or just hang up, forcing me to quit and restart.
This happened to me more than once, and not only on the P20, but on an older Honor device. I have to blame EMUI because Chinese phones running near stock Android but similar hardware (or even weaker chipset) does not exhibit the same behavior.
4. Camera (rear) - 4.5 Can't give 5, because after a month of using this phone, there are time when the camera also lags, gets frozen or behaves erratically. To be on the positive note, this happens rarely, but it happens I'd say 1 out of 30 times the camera is launched. This might be a combination of apps loaded in the background while the camera is launched /re-launched or the phone is putting apps to sleep and just can't react quickly to user input, I don't know. Otherwise when it works, it makes remarkable shots, very "Instagram worthy" ones, although some people will probably turn off the AI to produce more realistic shots instead of Lord of the Rings style fantasy scenery. Jokes aside, the camera on this can be easily match the top flagships of 2018 phones, although personally I still prefer Samsung phone cameras work . And just for reference, I don't like iPhone _____cameras either (insert any iPhone since 2010), with their yellow/brownish tint applied on everything and under or over exposed shots and no control over anything user unfriendliness.
5. Camera (front)- 3. I don't really use it much, but the few times I tried it, it's made for selfie maniacs with all beauty modes, even with the beauty mode off, it still looks like it applies something. Blonde hair can show up as reddish for some reason, other times people I took selfies with noticed, that their eyebrows were missing. Funny as it sounds, the phone tries to Photoshop you aggressively without your consent, depending on the lighting conditions, but otherwise the selfie camera I'd rate it average, because it's more of a trend, even the newest iphones produce selifes, that are love it or hate it, depending on what the user is looking for.
6. Battery: - 4. By 2018 standards, it's average to very good. I see some people complain about 4-5 hours of screen on time, others report up to 8. I personally got about 5-6hrs and standby time is amazing. I'm sure EMUI has an aggressive power management, which may save plenty of battery life, but I suspect it may be also the culprit some of the issues regarding system performance and app management.
6. Overall : - 3.75 out of 5. After using several phones in 2018, including cheap budget phones to the iPhone X and back to mid range, this phone is no way and no how a flagship phone. It's a an expensive top-mid-range device. It's neither anything special, nor mediocre. Recommended for people coming from Apple and have absolutely zero skill using an Android. I also think, it's overpriced, especially right now (2019 January).
* Extra note: The vibrator. Very 2013-ish. Huawei needs to learn to implement a better taptic engine. iPhones are unbeatable in it, probably their best feature. The buzzing feel just don't cut it anymore. As I heard Pixels have them well, and some of the newer Motorola phones have it well done and they are cheaper. It gives a whole new dimension to the device to have a good haptic feedback. This phone buzzer/vibrator just feels kinda cheap and obsolete.
I agree with dollarpapa, P20 is a decent phone but nothing remarkable really. I bought it 6 months ago for a beefy price tag of 545 euros, it costs around 450 euros now. The main reason I picked p20 at that time was the camera, it was the 2nd best rated camera according to dxomark and bunch of youtubers.
My thoughts in brief:
1. Camera: Really good at night. Not great during the day.
2. Screen: pretty bright and crisp, however Amoleds are always more appealing.
3. Battery: very good.
4. UI: garbage. Like others have mentioned, there is a minor touch lag that kills the smoothness compared to say og Pixel.
5. Speed: the storage is really fast, that means apps open up really quick. Memory management is horrible, worse than og Pixel.
Overall I'd say don't buy this phone in 2019 unless you want it only for night time pictures. A decent alternative is Galaxy S9 without sacrificing much in terms of camera quality. For performance, I'd go with Pocophone f1,but the camera will be much worse.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Tab S4, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
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Overall this tablet is incredible. The speakers are great, the screen is crisp and not to mention huge. An incredible device priced just a little too high
Not worth the money. I am very disappointed with the rams. My note 9 has 8 GB ram but this tab only comes with 4 GB and no option to increase the ram like the note 9.
This tablet should have had 6 GB then it would have been worth the money.
Right now I got 600mb rams free and if I startup the DeX then I don't know how it will work.
Just haven't had the chance to try DeX yet as I am working non stop for 14 days on 14 hour shifts but after 14 day I'll report back.
SyCoREAPER said:
Overall this tablet is incredible. The speakers are great, the screen is crisp and not to mention huge. An incredible device priced just a little too high
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I've found the speakers very disappointed. Zero bass and not much depth
Zionator said:
Not worth the money. I am very disappointed with the rams. My note 9 has 8 GB ram but this tab only comes with 4 GB and no option to increase the ram like the note 9.
This tablet should have had 6 GB then it would have been worth the money.
Right now I got 600mb rams free and if I startup the DeX then I don't know how it will work.
Just haven't had the chance to try DeX yet as I am working non stop for 14 days on 14 hour shifts but after 14 day I'll report back.
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What are you doing that you need more than 4GB of RAM?
Reuben_skelz92 said:
I've found the speakers very disappointed. Zero bass and not much depth
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I dont mind the speakers. They are loud enough but you're right, they wont win any sound awards.
SyCoREAPER said:
Overall this tablet is incredible. The speakers are great, the screen is crisp and not to mention huge. An incredible device priced just a little too high
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And a little too heavy. Looks like I will be keeping my Tab S 8.4 for reading
Had mine for a week now and have been using it pretty much non-stop. Screen is superb for video. Have the keyboard cover too and it has been useful for doing some work emails and stuff. Used Dex for a few days until the novelty wore off. Having said that will use it occasionally when docked to a bigger screen. Yes it's heavy and yes it's expensive.....but I still love it.
I do love it overall. Big and beautiful as a tablet, while cute and compact as a partial laptop. But i am also disappointed like many people that it did not have more ram. I had apps crashed and hanged on DeX before
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And a little too heavy. Looks like I will be keeping my Tab S 8.4 for reading
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I do love my S4 and S 8.4 which I was planning to sell or gift. Decided to keep it for reading and quick browsing. Phone 6.2", two sizes of tablets 8.4" and 10.5" and laptop 13.3"=device for every occasion :victory:
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I do love my S4 and S 8.4 which I was planning to sell or gift. Decided to keep it for reading and quick browsing. Phone 6.2", two sizes of tablets 8.4" and 10.5" and laptop 13.3"=device for every occasion :victory:
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apart from size, how clear is text on S4 compared to S 8.4"? I have a S 8.4" and use it 95% of the time for reading kindle and google books, and wonder whether that with 25% fewer pixels per inch, clarity of text might be reduced on the S4 compared to the S 8.4".
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apart from size, how clear is text on S4 compared to S 8.4"? I have a S 8.4" and use it 95% of the time for reading kindle and google books, and wonder whether that with 25% fewer pixels per inch, clarity of text might be reduced on the S4 compared to the S 8.4".
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Even though the screen has lower ppi it's still an awesome display. At first I was noticing lower ppi here and there. I guess I was looking for it as I don't notice it any more. Text is really nice and sharp, you shouldn't be disappointed. The reason I've kept S 8.4 is it's size, it's an easy one hand device unlike S4.
S4 is awesome!
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I think it is a mixed bag. I moved from an S2 to an S4, and there are multiple things I miss
Pros: processor, internal memory, video resolution, pie, battery life, speakers at all corners
Cons: Screen aspect ratio (too tall for books in portrait mode) , not enough ram for dex, no thumbprint sensor, no wireless dex, mirroring sucks
Yeah, the aspect ratio is better for movies, but I mostly cast video. Likewise the speaker location is much better, but I mostly cast or use head phones.
I won't be going back to the S2, but I miss it sometimes.
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Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Samsung Galaxy Tab S4, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Samsung Galaxy Tab S4 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
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I'm with you on that!
Just got my S4. Unicorn edition straight from Samsung South Korea!
6GB RAM / 256GB Storage / LTE / FULLY UNLOCKED! It works as a phone, with the phone and sms apps enabled. ZERO restrictions on this!
Pics up on instagram @RDA1074 will post some videos too!
I'm going without a physical PC for a week to check this out! I'm putting down my XPS 13 QHD i7 2-in-1 (9365) so....let see!
I needed something to replace my Tab E so purchased the Tab S4. I don't think they gave us value for the cost it was to buy it.
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I'm with you on that!
Just got my S4. Unicorn edition straight from Samsung South Korea!
6GB RAM / 256GB Storage / LTE / FULLY UNLOCKED! It works as a phone, with the phone and sms apps enabled. ZERO restrictions on this!
Pics up on instagram @RDA1074 will post some videos too!
I'm going without a physical PC for a week to check this out! I'm putting down my XPS 13 QHD i7 2-in-1 (9365) so....let see!
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How does one look into getting one of these and is there a wifi only version? Thanks!
I am very pleased with it. A family member of mine recently bought a 6th gen iPad and the Tab S4 is way more capable! (but also quite a bit more expensive. I use Dex alot in combination with the Samsung keyboard case. The S Pen is useful, but is too light for my liking.
The verry best of my owneds devices, only one bad point, i'v still no succes on rooting it.
I had both ipad pro (1st gen) 9.7 and 12.9 versions, sold them both and got a used S4 tab. So far really liking it. I used ot have a Note 9 so I'm used to the software. My phone is a P30 pro which is superb but the software sucks ass. Samsung software is on a different level from Huawei, it's not even comparable. I think atm Samsung software is better than apple products. The battery drain is a bit fast for me, but since I live in Korea I can always get the battery replaced at the Samsung service center for around $17 usd.
Comparing Tab S6 and Tab S4:
- S4 has slightly better display, with less backbleeding
- both tablets cannot be authenticated in a modern way, fp / iris / facelock are almost unusable
a) S6 fingerprint is a classic samsung joke since they moved fp reader under display
b) S4 intelligent scan is unsafe as it takes whatever authentication gets processed first.. iris OR face
c) S4 iris or faceunlock don't work in dark, and are in fact much worse than S6 fingerprint
d) S4 won't provide biometrics to apps... you simply enter the era of entering passwords by hand.. this is huuge disappointment
e) so there's another option: Direction Lock. this is a less secure pattern lock unfortunately it's first tier auth (it can't register on top of password), the best model would be strong base auth (password) + medium to strong comfy auth (iris AND faceunlock) but no luck here.. and again, it's not registered as biometrics. i don't know why Android recognizes only fingerprint as biometrics - bad
- both are slow, S4 feels like 10year device with its lags update: got much better when disabled proca why this is not disabled in kernel
- S4 can be rooted much better, no combination of keys needed to boot.. full safe setup twrp, kernel, xposed+xprivacy+xedge, encryption, no boot keys needed
- both have HDR playback, even if brightness is not enough..
- human control is painful:
a) you can't touch buttons when pen is accidentally close to the screen..oh my god..so many mistakes with this
b) the hardware keyboard is withough backlight so it's almost invisible, and the screen brightness won't help.. very painful keyboard.. i threw it away already
c) when using hardware keyboard, there will be accidental touches to screen..dialogs will be cancelled.. really annoying
d) i hate when i cannot dismiss notification menu by touching around it
e) pen doesn't slide on the screen easily.. it's not the same feeling like Note9.. it's almost difficult to move it around (new tip..a Lenovo pen would slide easily)
f) the expensive keyboard cover attracts fingerprint dirt like nothing else. crazy how it gets more dirty than glass!
- wifi reception is poor
- sound is fantastic... i despise all 3D, Vipers and modifications, but 4 speakers with Atmos sound so good in movies.. clear dialogs and atmospheric background sounds go beyond ears
the S4 tablet is good for media, games. Both are nowhere near producitivy and speed of modern mobile phones. Since i hate the keyboard and even stylus, the Samsung benefits are partially gone. I wish it was easier to control, snappier.
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it's what mi9 should have been, in everything except the CPU. It's too bad they used 710 instead of 712 due to the mi9 se. However, the cc9 is still probably the most "well rounded" package from the entire xiaomi line. High quality, great design, great cameras front and back, large battery, light weight, OLED, etc. Just love it. It's something I wanted out of a Mi9 but was let down with that battery. wish there's going to be more community support though, which looks a bit thin right now.
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it's what mi9 should have been, in everything except the CPU. It's too bad they used 710 instead of 712 due to the mi9 se. However, the cc9 is still probably the most "well rounded" package from the entire xiaomi line. High quality, great design, great cameras front and back, large battery, light weight, OLED, etc. Just love it. It's something I wanted out of a Mi9 but was let down with that battery. wish there's going to be more community support though, which looks a bit thin right now.
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Absolutely, completely ditto. The only thing holding this phone back is the lacking developer community behind it. Even so, the only thing that's keeping me from using the excellent Android 10 GSI linked in the guides is the lackluster camera performances. Honestly, that wouldn't have been a problem if I still had my Whyred since that phone's camera was "meh" at best, but not enjoying this camera to the fullest feels like a sin!
I'm liking mine a lot, screen is nice, as is the fingerprint scanner. Photos are fine, now that I've removed the watermark. Seriously, who WANTS to brand their photos with a manufacturer's watermark?
I can even cope with the notch, which did concern me. The IR blaster is a nice thing, but would be a lot better if it had an Xbox media remote profile added.
I've ones minor irritation. And it's really bothering me. There's a chime that sounds every now and then that I can't switch off. It's a descending sequence of beeps, like when a usb stick is unplugged.
No visual notification, but it can happen in quick succession, and even happens when watching something on Netflix over bluetooth headphones.
It usually comes when the screen is switched on.
Any ideas? Is there a system log file for audio?
Sorted it! It was the NFC talking to my debit cards. NFC off, and annoying MIUI chime noise gone.
Now to figure out Google pay.
That's odd. No equaliser when using Bluetooth ear buds.
Any workarounds? I could do with a bit more bass on the t-elf buds.
Or, do I need to get into ROMs? Haven't flashed a phone in years!
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I can even cope with the notch, which did concern me.
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What is ”the notch”? Do you have protective glass? I'm worried that fingerprint scanner won't work well over protective glass... How's MIUI 11? Does Revolut work on this phone?
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iuliusdeblobbis said:
Absolutely, completely ditto. The only thing holding this phone back is the lacking developer community behind it.
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I was considering Redmi Note 8 Pro but gave up that because MTK processor, no drivers which means very small developing community. That's why I choose Mi 9 Lite and now you say that there will not much developing for this phone...
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What is ”the notch”? Do you have protective glass? I'm worried that fingerprint scanner won't work well over protective glass... How's MIUI 11? Does Revolut work on this phone?
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I was considering Redmi Note 8 Pro but gave up that because MTK processor, no drivers which means very small developing community. That's why I choose Mi 9 Lite and now you say that there will not much developing for this phone...
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I'm not saying that there won't be a development community to back this phone. I'm saying that right now this phone doesn't have the support that other Xiaomi devices, like the RN5 or RN7, have.
I'm sure that, as time goes on, the community will get up to speed. In the mean time, @gringo80 has been mantaining a functional and frequently updated build of LineageOS, and even if that isn't your ROM of choice most GSIs works very well.
The notch is the "cut out" for the front facing camera.
I've a glass screen protector on the front, and the fingerprint scanner still works, but I think that is not as good as it was without the protector. I'm not taking it off, mind, as my phones have a hard life.
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The notch is the "cut out" for the front facing camera.
I've a glass screen protector on the front, and the fingerprint scanner still works, but I think that is not as good as it was without the protector. I'm not taking it off, mind, as my phones have a hard life.
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Seems that screen protector is slowing response of scanner a little. However when I had added fingerprints again with protector in place seems fine again. Maybe split-second difference
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I FREAKING LOVE THIS PHONE! period! There is nothing out there for around 200 bucks which can compete!
Battery drain, some bug on MIUI 11
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Battery drain, some bug on MIUI 11
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Im on MIUI 11 currently and i have no problem getting 3 days uptime and 10h SOT, dont think it's too bad for 4000mAh battery.
The phone arrives today.
I was googleing, trying to find way to root phone without unlocking bootloader. can anyone pplease help, post a link to a thread or anything. I will unlock bootloader but getting approved is a process and i want to root in right out of the box.
If rooted and with unlocked bootloader, can anyone confirm that Revolut works or doesn't work?
Wish you all the best in a New Year.
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Im on MIUI 11 currently and i have no problem getting 3 days uptime and 10h SOT, dont think it's too bad for 4000mAh battery.
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Good for you. I'm really disappointed about the battery life.
Hi all,
Coming from Samsung S and Note lines, I decided to move because the flagships are now so expensive.
So I looked for a similar device. My main points were :
- Affordable
- Gorilla glass 5 at least
- Amoled
- Metal frame
- Non mediatek chipset
- Good battery life
- Recent
I had not a large choice according to the availability in the country (Madagascar). Official resellers prices are too high so I had to manage with some unofficial business which have not so much stocks.
A lot of Xiaomi available but not enough for me : mediatek chipset, gorilla 3 one side, plastic frame and back... Until I saw a Mi 9 Lite ad, and after having check the specs, that was what I looked for, matching my needs.
So here I am... Bought the 02/06/2020
Good packaging, but it misses headset.
I loooove it so much
Welcome to Xiaomi family!
I bought a Mi 9 Lite earlier this month when my veteran Oneplus X finally vibrated itself off the kitchen counter and its mortal coil after enduring ~4 years of abuse. As someone who doesn't care about all the bells and whistles and just wants a solid phone that won't break the bank, here is my mini review:
1) Design and build quality: Top notch. If I was handed this phone without any prior knowledge and told it costs 700€, I wouldn't question it for a second. Every single other phone I've found in this price range has an ugly chin bezel and plastic frame/back. The phone industry had pretty much abandoned plastic in favor of more premium materials on all but the cheapest phones, but for some reason plastic became acceptable again early last year. Glad to see Xiaomi sticking to aluminium and glass on its midrangers.
2) The screen is just stunning. It's sharp, color accurate and immersive with relatively tiny bezels. I'd pretty much sworn off LCDs after my first AMOLED phone, and I'm glad I didn't compromise this time either. The advantages are too great compared to the shortcomings of the technology.
3) The hardware: 6GB RAM is pretty hard to find on most midrange phones, let alone those that cost less than 250€. I'm not into mobile gaming so I've never really pushed the CPU and GPU to its limits, but for day to day use the Snapdragon 710 is absolutely powerful enough. Everything from web browsing to scrolling through social media or watching videos feels snappy and stutter-free. The battery is massive and I can easily go 2 days without recharging, and when I do need to recharge the battery fills up pretty fast.
4) The camera. I'm not really a shutterbug, so the camera specs aren't a top priority for me when shopping for a smartphone, but the photos seem sharp enough and color representation is fine. Video stabilization leaves a bit to be desired, however.
5) Last but certainly not least, the software. I can't really say I'm a fan of MIUI. Maybe I'm too accustomed to lighter ROMs like Oxygen OS and Lineage OS, but the MIUI interface just feels like it's trying too hard to be IOS. Thankfully the launcher recieved an update recently that brings back the familiar app drawer. Some of the bloatware can be uninstalled, while most of it can't. Also, the ads. Pretty much every preinstalled app serves you ads (fullscreen and banner). I get that ads are fundamental to Xiaomi's business model, and I appreciate that they can be (somewhat) completely removed, but I cringe when I think of all the less tech savvy people using their Xiaomi phones and getting bombarded with ads every time they want to listen to music or watch a video.
All in all, this is a from me. The Mi 9 Lite isn't perfect, but it's better than any other phone at this price point. The only thing holding it slightly back for me is the software, but that's subjective so not something I'm going to knock a star off over. Besides, there's always custom ROMs ?.

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Rated this 5. Coming from a S9 this is certainly iterative , but I'm really enjoying the larger screen, the flat screen, the improved speed/smoothness, the front fingerprint sensor, and the new factory alert tones.
I also came from an S9, this just seems at least 2 levels up from that phone (and I really liked that phone). I am getting great (2 days plus!) battery life with not much use, also found a 5G cell and got 538mbits down!. Apart from being a little bigger in the hand this phone pretty much nails it from a performance perspective.
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I also came from an S9, this just seems at least 2 levels up from that phone (and I really liked that phone). I am getting great (2 days plus!) battery life with not much use, also found a 5G cell and got 538mbits down!. Apart from being a little bigger in the hand this phone pretty much nails it from a performance perspective.
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The phone is excellent, as far as Samsung support that's a different story. Earlier in October Samsung lunched the October security patch for all s20 series, but it excluded the S20 FE 5g edition. Same goes for the One UI 3 beta, it launched for all S20 series except S20 FE. This doesn't look as appealing if is going to be left out of security updates.
I love more my new S20 FE 5G than I hate my previous S20 Plus Exynos which was heating and eating battery very fast
I would say 4 of 5 stars as fingerprint scanner started to give me some fails but let's see
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The phone is excellent, as far as Samsung support that's a different story. Earlier in October Samsung lunched the October security patch for all s20 series, but it excluded the S20 FE 5g edition. Same goes for the One UI 3 beta, it launched for all S20 series except S20 FE. This doesn't look as appealing if is going to be left out of security updates.
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I got the October security update with OTA.
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I got the October security update with OTA.
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Great. I returned the phone and got an S20+ 5g instead from T mobile.
Average camera and missing features and headset!
Hi XDA's
Just want to give my 2 cents.
I'm coming from a Huawei Mate 20 Pro, as I want to try something new...and 5G. There were a great offer on it and took it.
First time I open the box I realized there were no headset
I have now used the phone for 2 weeks and been taking a lot photos. It is brilliant to take macro pictures, but does a bad job (compared to Mate 20 Pro, 2 year old phone) at capturing good pictures at dawn. Faces are also smoothen and it just looks wrong.
With the feature enabled to lit up the screen when it is lifted, doesn't always work. When it doesn't you have to either push the power button or lift the phone quicker...its just ignoring.
Searching for an app is cumbersome; you swipe up and then you have to move your thumb all the way up to touch the search field for start a search. I'm used to having the keyboard shown when entering the search app. When you then find the app. You cannot long press to move it to the home screen. You have to push Find app to find it in the drawer and then you can move it.
There are no Infrared sensor. Yes I actually use it especially if you rent a summerhouse, visit the hospital or at a meeting room to remote control their tv's. It is not something I use every day, but it's a nice feature.
Then there are Bixby. Something that only works in a foreign language and with no feature to substitute it with Google Assistant. That is just bad
Phone app needs too many clicks to get a call working...and there are no recording feature (not even under the tre dot menu).
Keyboard has half baked smiley feature, not with stickers in the Message app that only works with the keyboard from Samsung, although it also comes with Microsoft's Swift keyboard, which have better smiley feature too. Why come with two keyboards and none of them can be uninstalled?
Why even have it own Phone and Message app, when Google provides it...is it then to have been surveillance over its customers?
There are no leather cover for the phone
Last time I had a Samsung was an S2. It was rooted with Android Vanilla and some great battery life and cpu tunes. Took great pictures at that time, had infrared, came with headset...
This phone... I'm highly considering selling it again...I feels half baked, with a lot of twerks and bloatware. Like they couldn't decide or have learned us customers want to tweak it and want bare minimum of apps. Yes they have learned it a bit with the browser app...do that with every app. Make a real FE phone...or make it possible to be rooted and let the real fans tweak it and built a community...make XDA (you know what I mean) great again like the old days.
My Mate 20 Pro had better integration with Google and Android than this phone...I'm pretty disappointed.
Even Apple are doing a better job
For the price this phone cannot be beat. Looks and works great. I don't care about plastic. I like it better than glass because it is more resilient. It doesn't have all of the "best" but I can't tell much of a difference in performance from my S20 Ultra.
have had the phone for 4 days now and its very good. The cameras are as awesome as they say they are and the battery life is well beyond acceptable. Its been 30+ hours since i charged it and its still at 36%. Several lengthy phone calls and tons of facebooking, youtubing etc etc. Great phone so far!
I did notice the double tap feature is back and for me that is important. I tried multiple launchers but with a samsung theme installed and original launcher seems to respond the best for me. All other features of the phone seem to work well. So i guess i love the phone now that I made some changes that suit me.
My only crit of this device is complete lack of custom roms.
any developers developing it?
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My only crit of this device is complete lack of custom roms.
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any developers developing it?
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any developers developing it?
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Afaik there arent any ROM devs for this device on the XDA forum, but there might be somewhere else on the net. But I tend to only trust mod's, roms, kernals, recoveries etc that are released on this forum.
i would put $25 to any dev who could dev it, you guys should put u a price here too so they see it
im a software engineer, wonder if i could do it as a weekend project
Its a nice gesture, but maybe check with the forum devs of the right way to go about this.
WORST PURCHASE I EVER MADE..
Phone is great but after 3 days (and right after a software update) it's giving me a moisture warning.. and I never put it in water.. It doesn't let me charge and I won't buy a wireless charger. I will ditch it ASAP.

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