SM-T560NU speaker mod? - Samsung Galaxy Tab E Questions & Answers

Hi all.
I bought this tab after misplacing my much loved 2013 Nexus 7 tablet on a sunwing flight on a family trip to Cuba. Held out for a while before buying it, hoping the airline would find it and give it back to me. (The did eventually get it back to me one month after I bought the Tab E)
Have to say,at s I was shocked as he'll to see how bad the speaker is! It's unimaginable that samsung would make something so terrible! Funny thing, I don't see anybody talking about this anywhere.
My question is has anybody ever upgraded their speaker to improve the sound?

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This can be closed. The sound is pretty sweet under lineage 15.1
With stock it was awful. Tried everything but was horrible.

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Return my atrix for an sii?

Hi guys! Thanks in advance for any responses to this.
I recently bought a Motorola Atrix from AT&T and I'm still within my 30 day return period for another week. With the Galaxy sii being announced for at&t tomorrow, I am considering returning my atrix for it. I know the specs are better and I've read a million reviews, but I have some questions that I think will be better answered by experienced and technical sii users (you guys!). If anyone wants to comment on my thoughts here or if you have anything positive/negative to add about your experience with the sii, I would really appreciate the info.
-I love the qHD resolution on my Atrix screen. I hate the thought of losing that, but I keep hearing great things about that SAMOLED display...
-The GPS in my atrix works surprisingly well. My previous phone was an iPhone 3gs and the GPS was VERY hit or miss. It seems to work every time with the atrix. How is it in the samsung?
-Crappy internal speakers are a pet peeve of mine. The only thing I'm worried about with the speaker is whether or not it is loud/clear enough for the speakerphone. It drives me CRAZY when the internal speakers are just a little too quiet and it makes the speakerphone worthless (say, in a car with background road noise).
-How is the call quality on the sii?
-Does hdmi mirroring work well? That's the one feature of the atrix that drives me insane. It has an hdmi out, but no mirroring. I just don't understand that.
I think I'm going to have a hard time deciding this week and any comments you guys can provide will be appreciated!
acaseyb said:
Hi guys! Thanks in advance for any responses to this.
I recently bought a Motorola Atrix from AT&T and I'm still within my 30 day return period for another week. With the Galaxy sii being announced for at&t tomorrow, I am considering returning my atrix for it. I know the specs are better and I've read a million reviews, but I have some questions that I think will be better answered by experienced and technical sii users (you guys!). If anyone wants to comment on my thoughts here or if you have anything positive/negative to add about your experience with the sii, I would really appreciate the info.
-I love the qHD resolution on my Atrix screen. I hate the thought of losing that, but I keep hearing great things about that SAMOLED display...
-The GPS in my atrix works surprisingly well. My previous phone was an iPhone 3gs and the GPS was VERY hit or miss. It seems to work every time with the atrix. How is it in the samsung?
-I see that you guys are commenting on the speaker. The only thing I'm worried about with the speaker is whether or not it is loud/clear enough for the speakerphone. It drives me CRAZY when the internal speakers are just a little too quiet and it makes the speakerphone worthless (say, in a car with background road noise).
-How is the call quality on the sii?
-Does hdmi mirroring work well? That's the one feature of the atrix that drives me insane. It has an hdmi out, but no mirroring. I just don't understand that.
I think I'm going to have a hard time deciding this week and any comments you guys can provide will be appreciated!
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I would honestly go with the SGS2 but I'm biased.
screen is crazy good, I mean crazy good.
speaker is good but i tend to use a BT headset.
call quality is awesome. It's seems louder than my old Craptivate & Inspire.
can't comment on hdmi mirroring since I don't have the HDMI adapter
I was going to get the Atrix till i saw the video below.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGyJk2luvv4
I would definitely go for the SGS II (especially since there are rumors that it might come out with LTE). I actually bought an Atrix and sold it to help pay for my unlocked SGS II when it came out.
Came from an atrix, great phone but it just cant beat the sgs2. Return it.
Oh, and the screen is much better on the sgs2
I sold my Atrix for a Galaxy S II after having it for 2 weeks. The screen on the Atrix, while having a slightly higher resolution, has such terrible color the Galaxy S II blows it away. The other major thing that bothered me was the locked bootloader and lacking mod community at the time. The SII actually performs like a dual core smartphone where as the Atrix lagged when using live wallpapers. The only thing I actually miss from the Atrix is the notification LED.
Atrix is a horrible, slow, buggy phone. Galaxy S2 is the smoothest android phone i've ever used
I sold my Atrix for an SGSII and have no regrets
it's faster
better looking
has a better GUI
Better camera
the only thing I miss is the fingerprint reader
Also from an Atrix. Never looking back
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+1. Sold my Atrix. GPS was the only thing better. But sgs2 is fine.
SGS2 is much better.
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Been an Atrix user for 4 months then made the switch to SGS2. I miss the qhd resolution, battery life and gps on the Atrix. Never really tried the finger print reader. But i heard 2.3.4 made the atrix a lot better..
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Thanks for all the input guys. Just out of curiosity, did most of the people who had an atrix have froyo or gingerbread? bimmerboi, are you happy you made the switch regardless of the things you miss?
Atrix and gs2 are comparable phones. I don't regret atrix at all.
I voided my warranty and your mum.
Once this replacement battery & cover is available it should add a nice boost to the battery life on our SGS2's. From the pics it looks like Samsung did it right and made a quality upgrade without taking away from the elegant design of the phone (unlike the hideous aftermarket high capacity batteries currently available).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239719
acaseyb said:
Thanks for all the input guys. Just out of curiosity, did most of the people who had an atrix have froyo or gingerbread? bimmerboi, are you happy you made the switch regardless of the things you miss?
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Yes i am happy and no regrets. Those 3 things are what i really miss though.. Other than that the SGS2 is better in every aspect. If u can still return your Atrix then do it. You probably wont miss it since you only had it for a short time.
Edit: I forgot to mention the thing i miss the most.. The notification led!
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I sold mine to my friend (his first Android) for $400 and paid the difference. All I can say is, totally worth it. Only downside is occasional wakes in the pocket compared to the Atrix but honestly everything is better.
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Thanks again to anyone who posted (I reached my daily limit of 'thanks,' so I can't dole any more of those out). Assuming the price is reasonable when it gets announced tonight, I'll be returning my atrix pretty soon.
I was running 2.3.4
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I've sold my Atrix and bought a GS2 and I couldn't be happier. The screen is absolutely mind blowing (I watch a lot of videos when I travel), the processor feels REALLY faster than the Atrixs' and the camera quality is among the best I've seen in sell phones. Amazing phone that I won't be getting rid of so soon. You cannot go wrong with this change.

[Q] Disappointed.

Hi guys,
I was a (very) happy Galaxy S2 user and wanted to do the bump with the S4. I've got it with a very expensive price plan from Vodafone (yeah, blame me on that) and now I'm having a hard lifetime concerning payments and all that nasty stuff nobody wants to know about. I'm just explaining this to add for the disappointment I'm having with this new phone.
First it was the poor audio quality (yeah, I do really think S2 sounded better even if it had a poorer DAC), then it was the greyish LCD look of the screen (AMOLED, right?), the purple smearing & the slow response of pixel drawing... So, Today I've received the MEA OTA update and the phone got worse: faster battery draining, 1s camera lag, Adapt Sound (ace utility if you ask me) stopped working and never came back, some UI mistakes... issues well long and discussed in here.
Thing is, this phone is brand new, just got it for 6 days and I was also thinking of buying HTC ONE at first because audio DAC quality and, why not, to taste another Android flavour.
So my question would be: Would you recommend to exchange/switch it with somebody else for the HTC ONE on secondhand market? Or is it just a matter of lazy samsung devs? Will it get better (ie issues resolved) in some time? I'm just asking for oppinions, certainly nobody can give us those answers for real, but for the sake of wellness...
Cheers,
Slit.
slit said:
Hi guys,
I was a (very) happy Galaxy S2 user and wanted to do the bump with the S4. I've got it with a very expensive price plan from Vodafone (yeah, blame me on that) and now I'm having a hard lifetime concerning payments and all that nasty stuff nobody wants to know about. I'm just explaining this to add for the disappointment I'm having with this new phone.
First it was the poor audio quality (yeah, I do really think S2 sounded better even if it had a poorer DAC), then it was the greyish LCD look of the screen (AMOLED, right?), the purple smearing & the slow response of pixel drawing... So, Today I've received the MEA OTA update and the phone got worse: faster battery draining, 1s camera lag, Adapt Sound (ace utility if you ask me) stopped working and never came back, some UI mistakes... issues well long and discussed in here.
Thing is, this phone is brand new, just got it for 6 days and I was also thinking of buying HTC ONE at first because audio DAC quality and, why not, to taste another Android flavour.
So my question would be: Would you recommend to exchange/switch it with somebody else for the HTC ONE on secondhand market? Or is it just a matter of lazy samsung devs? Will it get better (ie issues resolved) in some time? I'm just asking for oppinions, certainly nobody can give us those answers for real, but for the sake of wellness...
Cheers,
Slit.
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I am also one of the guys who upgraded from s2..so far i am very happy with it..if u r talking abt the music playback audio quality then its way better than s2..so either u got a faulty device or u should factory reset and then apply the update again..no lags here..
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thanks for your thoughts guitarmafia.
about sound quality: yeah, it appears so, and I do believe this Qualcomm DAC is way better than the Yamaha one in S2, although I do really hear it worse. Sounds more nasal, more resonant than the S2 was. Maybe I need to get used to it?
lag: I do have lag now, sunday night I was making pictures with Zero Lag alright (very impressed coming from an S2) and today, after the OTA update, I've got the camera firmware update and started to have shutter lag. My girlfriend's S3 does pics almost instantly, way faster than this.
Perhaps you should do what everbody does, and root it with a good Romsuch as Cyanogenmod or a good touchwiz one and you'll appreciate it.
I'm also disappointed since i feel my S2 was just as fast and as good.
S2 with NeatROM 4.8 was just as fast and as good as this S4, indeed. I do appreciate the FullHD screen compared to these 480x800, but instead we've got a greyish screen... and I do expect a quality product when I buy the flagship of Samsung, tbh.
Try a MF8 rom. Might fix some issues. Using it and have no problems. Smooth and fast. Dont know about cam lag because I dont have a reference point.
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thanks for your thoughts guitarmafia.
about sound quality: yeah, it appears so, and I do believe this Qualcomm DAC is way better than the Yamaha one in S2, although I do really hear it worse. Sounds more nasal, more resonant than the S2 was. Maybe I need to get used to it?
lag: I do have lag now, sunday night I was making pictures with Zero Lag alright (very impressed coming from an S2) and today, after the OTA update, I've got the camera firmware update and started to have shutter lag. My girlfriend's S3 does pics almost instantly, way faster than this.
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My apolozies..i did not realize that u were talking about the sd600 version..i own an octa core version so my experience does not apply here..
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guitarmafia said:
My apolozies..i did not realize that u were talking about the sd600 version..i own an octa core version so my experience does not apply here..
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Oh, I see. Don't worry. I'm more confident with this screen and its response, although this isn't the phone I was expecting... and getting a i9500 is out of the question.
About MF8 rom, well, changelog doesn't look more promising than this MEA I have now.
Thanks for your thoughts, though.
Had s2 and s3 now have s4 for playing music its way better than the previous phones, more warmth and bass and more equalizer room to tweak through for ex with poweramp
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jody2k said:
Had s2 and s3 now have s4 for playing music its way better than the previous phones, more warmth and bass and more equalizer room to tweak through for ex with poweramp
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I see that you have the i9505, are you an audiophile by any means? Not asking rudely, just wondering about a fellow music addict and i9505 audio quality compared with HTC One

GoodBye Nexus, you were overhyped

So my Nexus 6 is gone. My new HTC 10 arrives today. My experiences with this thing for the last 2 years....
- Gets WAY hot. Always has. This is a replacement as the first one died immediately.
- Headphone jack is USELESS.... Phone worked great for a few months. Just long enough to have to deal with hoops to get it warranty replaced. Now the headphone jack is nothing but a swirling mess of feedback, distortion and noise.
- Audio works great, for about 10 minutes. It then fades to nothing but static and low volume noise. Unless your using Bluetooth, forget it.
-Updates... Yeah, I get updates like once every three months. these render the phone unstable for the next 72 hours and must be rebooted constantly.
-Battery....Don't get me started..... Gets hotter then hell if plugged in. If you try to use it when plugged in, the sound quality is horrible and the mic volume is low. Unplug it, and you get maybe 30 minutes of talk time. It used to be really good. Now it seems the battery is just crap.
This phone has lived its life in a nice armor case. Never dropped and has not a mark on it. Current trade in value... $96. amount owed, $167. Yeah, the hype over having a Nexus is just that.... Hype. I had a nexus 6 that I unlocked and rooted. Why? Because I could. I miss the days of flashing roms and tweaking on my HTC EVO 4G. This Nexus, in all honesty, is not half the phone that device was. It was old, it was slow, but it was a freaking reliable beast. I'm chalking these problems up to my phone just being a lemon. Just like the one I had right before it that I returned for this one. 2 for 2, real quality stuff there Motorola.
So as I activate my HTC 10, I will look back on my first Nexus experience as hopefully my last, and I hope my HTC 10 is everything my EVO 4G was.
I can never figure out why people post crap like this on XDA; obviously 1000's of folks have had none of the bad experiences that you claim to have had, and, the most important thing is why do you feel the need to post something like this here?
no one cares that you have left this phone, you've had a whopping FIVE thanks since you have been here, so obviously you have done nothing to contribute to XDA in any way, shape, or form, so why would you think this post adds ANYTHING to the community ?
Geez...
Good riddance. I've had two Nexus 6 (64GB Cloud white and 32GB Blue) and had literally no issues you experienced. In fact the exact opposite. With V4A (and now A.R.I.S.E. audio) with the Audiophile profiles it's been the best audio quality device I have ever owned. Never had issues with audio either via the headphone jack or via bluetooth paired to all kinds of stuff (Anker bluetooth speaker, my Toyota car, Klipsch sound bar, etc...). I love getting monthly security patches for 3 years and guaranteed updates for 2 for the next OS (good luck on your HTC 10 in terms of security patches and system updates). Also with it being a Nexus there should be developers supporting it much longer than the intended lifecycle- look at the Nexus 4 still getting up to date Marshmallow ROMs compiled for it.
What do you expect trading it in to a carrier? Seriously??? Sell it on swappa.com where the average selling price is around $220/$270 for the 32GB/64GB variants respectively. Carrier trade in has nothing to do with the value of the device.
I don't disbelief you had the issues. That sucks, getting two "lemons" in a row. I wouldn't completely write off the Nexus line though, who knows what the rumored HTC Nexus is gonna be like. Hopefully awesome and similar/better to the HTC 10 but with full open source software released by Google. I'm in the exact opposite camp as you. I will never not buy a Nexus device because of the timely updates, full open source releases from Google, and arguably the best developer community among any devices released. It's also nice that when buying from Google they are unlocked for all 4 major carrier networks now, so you can switch at any time and not be locked in to your current carrier.
I have had the exact opposite experience with my N6. I can now Edge-Up and I won't because there is no other phone that offers more than the N6. Here are my likes and dislikes about the N6
Pro:
Size is perfect for me. I can't stand the old 5" screens.
Mine does not run hot.
Huge amount of development support.
Fast
Battery lasts over 24 hours with heavy use 16 hours a day.
Pure Android experience. No annoying manufacturer crap.
Easy to unlock/root/change ROMS
Because I use a non stock ROM, I get monthly updates for security patches
Fast charging and wireless charging.
Cons:
Camera leaves something to be desired.
Must have a Fast charger if you are a heavy user.
Does not support wireless fast charging.
No micro SD slot
Until Google releases their next 6" phone, I'm sticking with my N6.
scothern99 said:
So my Nexus 6 is gone. My new HTC 10 arrives today. My experiences with this thing for the last 2 years....
- Gets WAY hot. Always has. This is a replacement as the first one died immediately.
- Headphone jack is USELESS.... Phone worked great for a few months. Just long enough to have to deal with hoops to get it warranty replaced. Now the headphone jack is nothing but a swirling mess of feedback, distortion and noise.
- Audio works great, for about 10 minutes. It then fades to nothing but static and low volume noise. Unless your using Bluetooth, forget it.
-Updates... Yeah, I get updates like once every three months. these render the phone unstable for the next 72 hours and must be rebooted constantly.
-Battery....Don't get me started..... Gets hotter then hell if plugged in. If you try to use it when plugged in, the sound quality is horrible and the mic volume is low. Unplug it, and you get maybe 30 minutes of talk time. It used to be really good. Now it seems the battery is just crap.
This phone has lived its life in a nice armor case. Never dropped and has not a mark on it. Current trade in value... $96. amount owed, $167. Yeah, the hype over having a Nexus is just that.... Hype. I had a nexus 6 that I unlocked and rooted. Why? Because I could. I miss the days of flashing roms and tweaking on my HTC EVO 4G. This Nexus, in all honesty, is not half the phone that device was. It was old, it was slow, but it was a freaking reliable beast. I'm chalking these problems up to my phone just being a lemon. Just like the one I had right before it that I returned for this one. 2 for 2, real quality stuff there Motorola.
So as I activate my HTC 10, I will look back on my first Nexus experience as hopefully my last, and I hope my HTC 10 is everything my EVO 4G was.
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Just wanted to say before this gets locked that if you think you Nexus 6 got hot. Wait till you start working with a metal phone. It will feel even hotter.
Also, why trade in for pennies on the dollar when you could have sold it on Swappa or Ebay. Going in the +$200 range.
@scothern99
Too long didn't read.
Glad you'll be able to go back to using Facebook exclusively for your feelings. No place for it here.
raptoro07 said:
Just wanted to say before this gets locked that if you think you Nexus 6 got hot. Wait till you start working with a metal phone. It will feel even hotter.
Also, why trade in for pennies on the dollar when you could have sold it on Swappa or Ebay. Going in the +$200 range.
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I didn't say I did. Thats just the trade in value. Kind of pathetic. A 2 year old phone with three times the horsepower (on paper) sells for less then a 3 year old iPhone. Its pathetic.
I seriously had high hopes for the Nexus 6. The 6p might be better as it was not glued together by Motorola. But this phone has been nothing but problems.
Have fun with your Touchwiz or IOS
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Have fun with your Touchwiz or IOS
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WOW!!
Sorry I'm not one of the "Cool kids".
I hope you all have much better experiences with your Nexus then I did. As for this Asshat here.... Moron.....
HTC = SENSE
Samsung = Touchwiz
Apple= iOS
Sence I said I was getting an HTC, your obvious attempt to attack me failed, and only showed that you sir are an IDIOT!
Why the defensiveness people? I was merely pointing out my experiences with my particular Nexus 6. I'm glad you like yours, I wanted to love mine. I guess I should learn to keep my opinions to myself. Wouldn't want to be different than anyone else...
Why not just get a new Nexus 6?
posts like this are part of the reason why I do not frequent this forum much anymore. the nexus 6 is a solid device, I have no real complaints about mine. it's not perfect, but it is far from terrible.
He seriously got a "thanks" for his OP? GJ
Have fun with Sense then. geez. but seriously if this isn't intended to be a troll post, then you just got sold a lemon. I've owned mine for well over a year now, nor is there anything going out on it. nothing really stands out for an upgrade at this point, and most likely won't until the new nexus devices get dropped. The biggest problem I have with this phone is the lack of an SD card, if it had that I wouldn't upgrade for a long time. I bought it at a new retail price, and honestly I think its worth every penny i spent on it, though I'm kinda angry how low it's dropped lol
But hey if you want to deal with the HTC 10, by all means have fun. you should read the most recent post on the XDA portal about it.
1. Sell the phone on Swappa. Phones sell for much higher there.
2. Your experience is atypical. Most nexus 6 users are very happy.
3. I've been on android phones, rooting and modding since 2007. Having a non nexus phone will be disastrous for getting security updates and upgrades to newer android versions. That alone will overcome any gimmick touchwiz or sense has.
4. Similarly spec'd HTC phones will always lag pure android devices by definition since they have to run a skin on top of the pure android software. It might look similar but it's not close. I'm not going to a non nexus device after having had 18 HTC and Samsung devices in the family.
5. HTC makes the most beautiful industrial design phones but the fragmentation caused by HTC etc having to catch up their overlays to android version upgrades is not trivial. This will be a move you will regret.
6. The nexus 6 has it's own problems but on balance a nexus > a non nexus
7. No android phone will ever match an iPhone in low depreciation rates. Android by definition is too fractured and fragmented to get the cult following iPhones do. Believe me your HTC will also collapse in value very soon.
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Either OP got a defective device or he can`t handle a smartphone, got a Nokia 1611 laying around somewhere if you`re interested
I've been using the phone for 14 months straight without a single issue. As a matter of fact, the Nexus 6 is so good, I decided not to upgrade to the 6p. Everyone else who posted here is absolutely correct. Not every phone is going to be peachy keen all the time. Sometimes you will have to do a little homework and figure out what's going wrong and how to fix it. Your HTC 10 will have its own set of issues. What will you do then? Will you just give up and move on to the next phone, or will you try and do something about it?
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So my Nexus 6 is gone. My new HTC 10 arrives today. My experiences with this thing for the last 2 years....
- Gets WAY hot. Always has. This is a replacement as the first one died immediately.
- Headphone jack is USELESS.... Phone worked great for a few months. Just long enough to have to deal with hoops to get it warranty replaced. Now the headphone jack is nothing but a swirling mess of feedback, distortion and noise.
- Audio works great, for about 10 minutes. It then fades to nothing but static and low volume noise. Unless your using Bluetooth, forget it.
-Updates... Yeah, I get updates like once every three months. these render the phone unstable for the next 72 hours and must be rebooted constantly.
-Battery....Don't get me started..... Gets hotter then hell if plugged in. If you try to use it when plugged in, the sound quality is horrible and the mic volume is low. Unplug it, and you get maybe 30 minutes of talk time. It used to be really good. Now it seems the battery is just crap.
This phone has lived its life in a nice armor case. Never dropped and has not a mark on it. Current trade in value... $96. amount owed, $167. Yeah, the hype over having a Nexus is just that.... Hype. I had a nexus 6 that I unlocked and rooted. Why? Because I could. I miss the days of flashing roms and tweaking on my HTC EVO 4G. This Nexus, in all honesty, is not half the phone that device was. It was old, it was slow, but it was a freaking reliable beast. I'm chalking these problems up to my phone just being a lemon. Just like the one I had right before it that I returned for this one. 2 for 2, real quality stuff there Motorola.
So as I activate my HTC 10, I will look back on my first Nexus experience as hopefully my last, and I hope my HTC 10 is everything my EVO 4G was.
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good bye, enjoy, and dont let the door hit you in the ass on the way out :silly:
Can the HTC 10 be rooted and have a custom recovery installed for a US phone?
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Can the HTC 10 be rooted and have a custom recovery installed for a US phone?
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Yup, flash TWRP after you unlocked the bootloader and after that flash the superSU.zip in recovery. S-Off is available too as i read somewhere.
He should get a warn minimum for this spammy post. I have gotten some in the past for less.

Well, I jumped ship to the S8.......What I've come to realize

The S8 has tempted me for the last month.... I was in Best Buy this week, and they had a special (free wireless $50 charger and $100 gift card), plus AKG earbuds and an entertainment package with more earbuds and some other "entertainment" things ($170 deal)....So I did the deal (At&t next plan).
I almost immediately regretted it! But now, I'm stuck with the S8 (and paying for it), so I might as well use it and sell my Axon 7 to recoup some money I'll be spending the next 2 years.
Axon 7 Pros:
- Speakers.....This was an immediate miss!
- Less bloat, especially since my A7 was running custom ROMs
- Just as smooth and fast
- Newer version of Android, not that it makes that much difference in the end or performance
- Better battery
- Custom ROMs
- Feels more solidly built
- No SD card issues (S8 has SD card issues, it's a big issue)
- Did I mention I REALLY miss the speakers!
- Fingerprint scanner placement
Galaxy S8 pros:
- Screen is just amazing
- Camera is really, really, good
- Less bluetooth connection errors and stays connected from a longer distance
- The in-call sound of the other caller sounds like they are actually on the other side of the phone! I haven't heard a phone call this good, loud, and clear since my land-line
- More case selections
- Battery isn't as good as the A7, but still not bad. Even though it's not QC 3.0, it's still pretty darn fast at charging (I have not complaints). Went from 61% to 100% in less than 30 minutes in my car (while using bluetooth to stream music).
- Lighter, slightly narrower
- Microphone is better/more sensitive and speech to text is more accurate because of this - also captures live music (in videos) better.
If I would have tried the S8 for a few days first.... I would not have bought it and kept my A7...But now that I have, there are things I really like about the S8, but there are more things I miss about my A7.
I've disabled all I can in my S8 and some features I don't want to, even though they're gimmicky. I really like the always on display too and the pressure sensitive "home" button to turn on the screen.
I know some warned me...But it's not as bad as everyone said and no end-of-time catastrophic events happened because I sold out.
I'll miss this community and may be back someday with the A8 or A9.
Thanks for everything and from everyone that worked their tails off to get us custom ROMs!
How about the headphone audio, does S8 have noise like my S6 does?
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How about the headphone audio, does S8 have noise like my S6 does?
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Sorry for the delay in replying.... I didn't notice it at first, since I used bluetooth....So I plugged directly into the aux port...... So, if you are charging your phone and plug in directly into the aux input, it is very noisy. You can change a setting to get rid of that noise on the music, but it's till there when using Google Assistant or maps. But when connected via bluetooth, there is no noise.
Since you're using AT&T and seem to be post-paid with them, the call quality jump could be a switch to using VoLTE. The S8 would be supported by them since they currently only allow it on A&T branded devices (and soon on Cricket).
I jumped ship from the Axon 7 having previously had the s7 edge. I jumped from the s7e to the A7 to the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x and now the LG G6. I've also gone through the moto G4 at some point too.
The s7e was awesome but waay too fragile and after dropping it I just couldn't settle. I really liked the A7 but the camera just wasn't doing it for me so I bought the redmi note 4 as a stop gap. I have to say, for the money, the xiaomi was amazing. With a bit of patience even the camera was good. I held off on the LG G6 for the Oneplus 5 but caved when the price dropped and, I hate to say it, but I'm not thrilled by it. Is it three times as good as the Note 4x? No. I'm thinking of selling it on after just a few hours and waiting for the OnePlus 5 or going back to the Axon 7.
Question though, has the camera improved since January?
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I jumped ship from the Axon 7 having previously had the s7 edge. I jumped from the s7e to the A7 to the Xiaomi Redmi Note 4x and now the LG G6. I've also gone through the moto G4 at some point too.
The s7e was awesome but waay too fragile and after dropping it I just couldn't settle. I really liked the A7 but the camera just wasn't doing it for me so I bought the redmi note 4 as a stop gap. I have to say, for the money, the xiaomi was amazing. With a bit of patience even the camera was good. I held off on the LG G6 for the Oneplus 5 but caved when the price dropped and, I hate to say it, but I'm not thrilled by it. Is it three times as good as the Note 4x? No. I'm thinking of selling it on after just a few hours and waiting for the OnePlus 5 or going back to the Axon 7.
Question though, has the camera improved since January?
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Hi Willy what software were you on before you got rid off the Axon 7? There are definite improvements in Nougat but whether there are enough for you, I'm not sure.
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I think it was B13 when I left. I've looked over my pictures at the time and they weren't good.
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The S8 has tempted me for the last month.... I was in Best Buy this week, and they had a special (free wireless $50 charger and $100 gift card), plus AKG earbuds and an entertainment package with more earbuds and some other "entertainment" things ($170 deal)....So I did the deal (At&t next plan).
I almost immediately regretted it! But now, I'm stuck with the S8 (and paying for it), so I might as well use it and sell my Axon 7 to recoup some money I'll be spending the next 2 years.
Axon 7 Pros:
- Speakers.....This was an immediate miss!
- Less bloat, especially since my A7 was running custom ROMs
- Just as smooth and fast
- Newer version of Android, not that it makes that much difference in the end or performance
- Better battery
- Custom ROMs
- Feels more solidly built
- No SD card issues (S8 has SD card issues, it's a big issue)
- Did I mention I REALLY miss the speakers!
- Fingerprint scanner placement
Galaxy S8 pros:
- Screen is just amazing
- Camera is really, really, good
- Less bluetooth connection errors and stays connected from a longer distance
- The in-call sound of the other caller sounds like they are actually on the other side of the phone! I haven't heard a phone call this good, loud, and clear since my land-line
- More case selections
- Battery isn't as good as the A7, but still not bad. Even though it's not QC 3.0, it's still pretty darn fast at charging (I have not complaints). Went from 61% to 100% in less than 30 minutes in my car (while using bluetooth to stream music).
- Lighter, slightly narrower
- Microphone is better/more sensitive and speech to text is more accurate because of this - also captures live music (in videos) better.
If I would have tried the S8 for a few days first.... I would not have bought it and kept my A7...But now that I have, there are things I really like about the S8, but there are more things I miss about my A7.
I've disabled all I can in my S8 and some features I don't want to, even though they're gimmicky. I really like the always on display too and the pressure sensitive "home" button to turn on the screen.
I know some warned me...But it's not as bad as everyone said and no end-of-time catastrophic events happened because I sold out.
I'll miss this community and may be back someday with the A8 or A9.
Thanks for everything and from everyone that worked their tails off to get us custom ROMs!
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Me too jump first to s8 for 2 weeks and now to s8 plus witch I'm keeping.
With majority of the observation I agree 100%.
My only disagreement is that battery life it's identical between S8 and Axon 7(I was getting 4.5-5 hours SOT per day) with extensive use.
In more light use I was getting with both phones 1.5-2 days battery life.
As for the S8 plus that I'm having it for 1 week now I'm getting 1 hour more SOT with intensive use of much easily reaching 2 full days with light to medium use.
As for the SD issue for S8/S8 plus their being addressed with latest May firmware upgrade.
One thing missing from Axon 7 is double tap to wake screen but with AOD on I can wake up the screen at s8 by double tap the home button witch is cool and nice.
I'm planning to keep both phone at first period and then will see what gone happen.
Honestly I'd take an S8 plus over my Axon 7, if it where not for the headphone audio output. Samsung hasn't really cared to compete in that department.
Maybe the Note 8 will tempt me, but I'd keep the Axon 7 for audio as I use two phones anyway. Or maybe it will be the LG V30 that will be my next phone. Time will tell

This is why I am returning my HTC U11

HI guys.
Just wanted to share some of my frustrations with this device. Please note that I am compering it to my old galaxy s8 and it is only a matter of personal opinion. Please let me know if you experienced any of these issues.
1. Strange auto brightness incidents. When I open the phone or move to different apps (such as camera, google photos gallery or chrome) the brightness changes. I was really surprised since I don't have an option for auto brightness.
2. AT&T reception issues. Calls are connected really slow and I get spotty coverage (in Chicago). It is worse then the galaxy s8.
3. Boom sound is not booming at all. The galaxy s8 has a very similar volume but looks like they tweaked it for higher highs so it sounds crisper. The upper speaker on the U11 is really not necessary and effects the overall quality of the sound . If I have a stereo speaker, why one side have to be worse?
4. I cannot do it without the headphone jack. I tried to walk around with the converter and I agree it gives amazing sound but I just can't do it.
5. Cumbersome system menus that are different from the stock android we all got to love. Its so hard to find the NFC and there is no shortcut for it.
6. call speaker clarity= its not clear.
7. The squeezing does not work for me. I set it up for medium strength (which was hard since its its not calibrated for medium power) and the phone kept on turning my camera in my pocket. So dies that mean I cannot wear skinny jeans anymore?
8. Tap to wake is not consistent, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
9. Also I noticed a strange behavior with the home button (I don't use fingerprint): sometimes I can tap it to wake the phone, sometimes I need to tap it twice and sometimes I cannot unlock the phone by tapping on it. When the phone is awake the home button works perfectly.
10. Bluetooth connectivity lost at random times in my car.
11. I got a strange "do not disturb" toggle (on and off) when I make a call.
12. The camera is not noticeably better the the galaxy s8. The shutter speed is the same, the light exposure is the same. Not sure it is worth the upgrade. In addition the edge sense works really bad here since squeezing the sides of the phone to take a pic creates a tremor because of the awkward way you need to hold the phone up.
Selfie camera is sub par.
13. The galaxy s8 has a better sun visibility since its brightness can be cranked up even higher. I tested it side by side. WTF HTC, you have an lcd panel.
14. The size.... OMG the size. I know that HTC made a great looking phone but one you go infinity edge, impossible to go back.
15. Red glow. Comparing the galaxy to the U, it is notably reddish, even after making the screen "cooler" in the options it is still red looking to me.
16. HTC phone migrate tool is not working on the Galaxy and it crashes (not a big deal but its annoying).
17. Earphones drain battery (wtf?!?).
18. HTC horrible call center.
19. Muffled car Bluetooth sound quality . More then one call sounds fed horrible comparing g to the s8.
***PHONE RETURNED ***
Overall I prefer the S8 but was chucking you call it "old": still fairly new IMHO! ?
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Ok............
Old s8? The thing didn't drop a dollar yet
As for the rest this is typical feedback for anyone coming from s8, just like few reviews, some of comments hold true like s8 sun brightness due to over drive (I dare to use it like that extensively)
But other like the boom and audio is completely non sense
Remaining few bugs here and there which are being addressed in the imminent update
Speed, response and fluidity however completely slaughters your s8
As for camera, unless you zoom and crop you will not appreciate this mobile camera bomb
Red glow as opposed to pink tint on the s8? Extended display color options are coming in the imminent update
Size and ergonomics I fully agree there, however some tips which has massively improved my experience, Nova launcher for swipe up and didn't action, simple controls to add quick access to have buttons, I now rarely touch the back button, a slim or the inbox case is recommended to save ergonomics, or naked if you have the heart for it...naked it this is the most comfortable phablet you can find, let's remember that its a phablet after all, same size as pixel XL, ah yes let's remember kids the s8 is not really bigger screen than this phablet not even close
Peace, go back to your tiny s8 :laugh:
The boom sound is not that great. The Galaxy sound as crisp. Plus the two mods it provides is another headache. Theater mode is muffled and music mode is just not good.
BTW . The Galaxy S8 is my wife's , I will get the plus .
Yes, the Galaxy S8 has a smaller screen only if you watch videos all day
The sound quality is exactly the same! And the camera is not a lot greater. BTW, I can notice the different approaches this manufacturers took .
On zoom the u11 is sharper but pixelated . The Galaxy is less sharp but smoother .
3.5 Jack and and a higher screen ratio would have make this phone perfect . Too bed it's far from it.
I bought this phone becuase it wasn't an S8
As someone who has owned a number of devices I wanted some things that people call "old" such as the home button back. I could get by without it on my Z3 compact but there were apps that blew up so bad I had no choice than to restart the phone because the software home button wouldn't show up, but after holding down the power button the restart option would show up and respond.
I have seen the S8 and as someone that owned the S2-4 I really didn't like it. The S5 is the last Samsung phone that I really liked. Though I went with the Z3 compact because it was smaller and cheaper.
I agree that the lack of a headphone jack is disappointing but on nearly every other point listed I disagree. My screen has nearly zero tint to it, my Z3 compact and Samsung's had strong blue tints to them. My Moto phone had a greenish tint to it.
The speed of the S8 is frankly so shameful it isn't even funny. I bought the Galaxy S phones back when they had speed. Now with all of the junk useless crap on the S8 it seems like a $300 phone not 700-800.
Also any phone that isn't 16:9 needs to be thrown into the trash. Don't like it or care for it and want the trend to drop dead ASAP. Though if we could get a flagship device with a removable battery I guess then I would suck it up and deal with an odd ball screen.
This phone's reception on AT&T is really good as the voice quality couldn't get much better to me.
I almost bought a Sony XZ premium, but wanted to try a HTC phone and save some money so here I am. Overall the Sony XZ premium is likely the best flagship device out now but I wanted to pay a bit less and get the home button back so that's why HTC got my money this time.
I didn't think the phone was that great either, but most of your points are bull****.
1. You can turn auto brightness off
2. These reception issues probably has nothing to do with HTC, it is completely compatible with AT&T
3. boom sound is still better than most phones lol
4. if you can't do without the headphone jack, why did you buy this phone in the first place?
5. i'll give you that one
7. lol
The rest are pretty unfortunate for you to have, I kinda agree with you on 15 though. The screen was warmer compared to my other phones
1. My phone doesn't do that. It only changes brightness in camera or when there more light hitting the sensor
3. Boomsound is kind of weird. Doesn't work too well in landscape since it's unbalanced. Treble can be boosted a bit of you install Viper4Android. I don't think the snapdragon S8 has root to install sound mods.
4. I use Bluetooth, so this isn't a problem for me.
5. Isn't this exactly like stock Android? It's under more where it's always been. You can also search it.
7. I have the issue where edge sense didn't always activate when I squeezed the phone.
8. Don't know about this one, always use fingerprint.
10. Bluetooth connection to car is broken for me too. I think it's due to bugs in 7.1.1
11. That's weird
12. only squeeze with one hand, easier to take pic.
13. Wish it could do iPhone levels too but not dissatisfied
What i really love about this phone is how smooth it is. Night and day coming from my S7 edge. Using Google maps, browsing while downloading anything, experience is so much better.
+ We have an unlocked bootloader and can root
i have the s8 right here on my table didnt turn it on for two weeeks, the whole S8 sounds just as good argument is just absurd, its terrible, super low volume and dont make me start on the joke that is audio recording and voice messages, even when using the speakerphone i have to raise the phone to my ear
you would have won a decent objective argument if it wasnt for that absurd audio comment
s8 audio is good only in certain tones, ideal for certain ringtones that is i guess this is what you call crisp, you want to see how bad the audio is on your s8? just revert back to the stock song ringtone....just laughable
4ktvs said:
The speed of the S8 is frankly so shameful it isn't even funny. I bought the Galaxy S phones back when they had speed. Now with all of the junk useless crap on the S8 it seems like a $300 phone not 700-800.
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this! why people walk passed this as if its not important, the S8 speed is hilarious, in gaming its a mid range and its even much slower and hotter in the worldwide exynos version
you want to pay 800$ for a phone operating like an iPhone 5 in terms of speed, fluidity and response be my guest, just leave us out of it
Galaxy S8 lovers (lets admit we all love it) it should be in your favor to bash Samsung for the incredible bad performance and lying reviews in order for them to fix this in the future and HTC deserves to awarded for doing this beast of a phone
Samsung Note 4 user here. Can't defend the S8 or Samsung of late since they bent the screen and locked all snapdragon bootloaders and blamed it on Google and Qualcomm. Fragile hot mess there! No thanks.
I'm remotely considering this phone but keeping options open.
I'm inclined to agree that updates may smooth some OP complaints but the first thing I would try is take phone out of battery saver mode and give performance a good try. That may be causing the inconsistency with brightness, cell signal and edge squeeze?
There are other battery saving methods to try. I never trust factory battery saving modes. That especially applies to Samsung. Please stop trying to optimize my phone; you're inducing lag and really need to learn how to manage RAM, Samsung. Try again just doesn't seem to be working for you.
Ultimately, Android and third party apps may do a better job. But HTC Boost+ is an app I use on my Note 4. LOL; I know that's an HTC app with ad sponsorship. Maybe HTC users get a free ride regarding the ads?
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Boomsound is crap? And your S8 sounds better? Really?
And from when did Samsung phones had stock android experience?
This writing of yours is more suitable in the S8 section. It would make many happy though it mostly doesn't make sense.
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Boomsound is crap? S8 sounds the same ?
Holy ****balls he just went full retard.
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I guess he never had a U11 in his hands, because (almost) every point is just nonsense.
And some people are so much addicted to Samsung that they just can't see the advantages in other devices.
I myself am addicted to HTC: Legend, Desire, One S, M7, M8, 10, U11.
There is one Samsung device i had a longer time and that was the Galaxy S2. Later i tried the S6 and S7, but both phones were greatly disappointing my expectations. All the UI and ROM just didn't feel like a flagship. Slow and unstable. I even experienced reboots with S7 when opening MAPS. Sound crappy, internal AND external. And so on. Only good thing was the camera and Amoled.
So if you really think your Samsung is better, then go with it and try to be happy.
HTC's systems menu is very close to stock. Samsung has the a** backwards system menu. Get out of here you skinny jean wearing troll.
borisb said:
HI guys.
Just wanted to share some of my frustrations with this device. Please note that I am compering it to my old galaxy s8 and it is only a matter of personal opinion. Please let me know if you experienced any of these issues.
14. The size.... OMG the size. I know that HTC made a great looking phone but one you go infinity edge, impossible to go back.
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that sounded wrong...
you love that big black samsung phone dont you l:laugh:
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that sounded wrong...
you love that big black samsung phone dont you l:laugh:
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No I don't . But I don't have anything else.
If the U11 had a 3.5 jack I would have kept it. Yesterday I wanted to play music at my friends back yard, so he handed me a 3.5 mm cable; you should have seen his face when he realized I have no way of connecting it (he is an owner of an iphone 5s).
On the other hand if the galaxy 8 had no "edges" and has a normal resolution it will be the perfect phone right now.
Maybe the note 8 could be a better choice for me or the Oneplus 5. Money is not an issue, I am willing to spend 600-850 on a new phone but it has to be used properly and not just look great.
Besides, the U11 has a serious issue with lighting.
Samsung fans try so hard to hate HTC, they would be very disappointed if they couldn't find anything wrong. It's so bad that I have even been seeing Sammy fans buying this device, (or pretending to) just so they can show proof why this phone sucks Lol. Then they threaten to return it :laugh: It is killing them that this great phone just might be better than their Holy Samsung :crying: LMAO!
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No I don't . But I don't have anything else.
If the U11 had a 3.5 jack I would have kept it. Yesterday I wanted to play music at my friends back yard, so he handed me a 3.5 mm cable; you should have seen his face when he realized I have no way of connecting it (he is an owner of an iphone 5s).
On the other hand if the galaxy 8 had no "edges" and has a normal resolution it will be the perfect phone right now.
Maybe the note 8 could be a better choice for me or the Oneplus 5. Money is not an issue, I am willing to spend 600-850 on a new phone but it has to be used properly and not just look great.
Besides, the U11 has a serious issue with lighting.
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If you want a 3.5 headphone jack then get the Sony XZ premium because you can pick one up for under $800 USD though clove UK. It's better than the S8 in every way other than maybe the camera.
@borisb and why did you ignore the included 3.5 adapter?
anyway i dont see a point of a thread like "why i am returning" these threads are always controversial
besides no one asked you :laugh:
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If you want a 3.5 headphone jack then get the Sony XZ premium because you can pick one up for under $800 USD though clove UK. It's better than the S8 in every way other than maybe the camera.
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but but but the bezel, i would sell my soul for that bezel :laugh:
@borisb serious issues with lighting: simply switch to touch auto exposure from the camera settings but hey you are not here for solutions
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besides no one asked you :laugh:
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But, he....then you...ugh....dag....
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