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Any chance of a vanilla rom?, no Samsung software, no themes, just plain old regular Google Android?. I dont care if its 2.1 or 2.2, I had a very nice vanilla rom on my Droid X, and I miss that. As it is I hate this phone intensely due to the lack of finding a Vanilla rom.
Does vanilla exist?
no the rom is not functional yet, but why don't you just apply the aosp theme
Super Clean, adw, asop theme. About as close as you'll get at the moment. It works well and looks stock.
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Jt's super clean and aosp theme by retro kid is what I use.
The feeling I've gotten is that it takes a ton of work to make AOSP (vanilla) run on this device, making sure drivers work etc. There's not a whole lot of reason for them to make all that effort when 2.2 is around the corner. Once 2.2 and its source are released I think we will see an AOSP rom, but not likely before. As the others suggest try a rom like blackhole and go with an aosp like theme.
Actually, there are a lot of really cool functions that you lose if everything was aosp
Should not be in the development forum.
As far as vanilla android, its being worked on but right now there are no developments. Samsung hacked together the RIL used to communicate with the cell radio from a 1.5 device to work with our device, not easy to work with
If the new update is not out, well the sad truth is we will not see 2.2 for a long time. Ive swapped my phone out so many times Verizon has given me the choice of choosing a different phone.
I might have to move on myself...ive given android enough time to tickle my fancy. And im just sad the developers just dont want to make decent apps. Its so weird that a phone with such great specs as the galaxy s just isnt supported by devs, the carriers or even samsung. There has to be much more of a problem with the phone than we actually know about.
It is supported by developers. Very much so. However they cannot work with the garbage code,and this 1.5 ril bull****.
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Edit: noticeit says sent from my ADR6300? Tired of waiting.
I wasnt really talkin about the Hacking Community Devs. I meant Market Devs, carriers and manufacturers. Hacking community can only do so much!
BTW off topic did anyone see how Microsoft is workign together with HACKING DEVS? Smart move , good for them.
Did you see that the big hack was for a whopping custom ringtone? Damn. Go Microsoft. Hack in a song that plays when someone called. I've only had that functionality for the past 5+ years.
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The windows phone 7 unlocker was pulled because Microsoft is supposedly going to and the option of enabling homebrew on windows phones. Supposedly of course.
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The windows phone 7 unlocker was pulled because Microsoft is supposedly going to and the option of enabling homebrew on windows phones. Supposedly of course.
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Far from. Microsoft is in no way supporting hackers they just aren't taking an Apple stand against it. Go google the article they basically tell you if you mess up your device you're on your own. Same story different wording. Microsoft will never enable homebrew. Think about their history.
Actually they jailbroke wp7 then microsoft got together to work with them on opening restrictions.... very cool move!!!
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BTW if you use custom roms and root your android phone.........your on your own also!!! Warrenty is dead!!
Noone gives you warrenty when you alter the software. NOONE! But i think its a great move by microsoft.
I personally have alot of respect for microsoft. I think that windows phone 7 is a great product.
BTW we are way off topic haha.
[anyDEV] can anyone develop the sense ui for this device ?
I think you could find a sense launcher and sense clock somewhere in these forums or in google play try search google by term sense launcher.apk and sense clock.apk
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Unlikely because Sense is HTC proprietary and requires a special kernel, frame work , and libraries.
Also , questions go in the Q&A section and put more information in the title so people know what you are posting about.
Mohamedselim said:
I think you could find a sense launcher and sense clock somewhere in these forums or in google play try search google by term sense launcher.apk and sense clock.apk
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will try that tonight and check it ..thanks man
DigitalMD said:
Unlikely because Sense is HTC proprietary and requires a special kernel, frame work , and libraries.
Also , questions go in the Q&A section and put more information in the title so people know what you are posting about.
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Sorry abt not posting this in the right section....but bro i do believe that someone out there is working on or trying to port it to the device
There have been countless attempts to port Sense, TouchWiz, and Blur to devices that don't ship with said interfaces. I have never seen a fully working ROM ever ported. They get to a certain point in functionality, then progress stops as the only way to fix the remaining issues is to get new binaries compiled which only HTC/Samsung/Moto have the ability to do. Feel free to try it yourself, but I doubt anyone is going to accomplish this. Also, why would you want Sense? It is probably the most bloated of all the OEM Skins out there.
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There have been countless attempts to port Sense, TouchWiz, and Blur to devices that don't ship with said interfaces. I have never seen a fully working ROM ever ported. They get to a certain point in functionality, then progress stops as the only way to fix the remaining issues is to get new binaries compiled which only HTC/Samsung/Moto have the ability to do. Feel free to try it yourself, but I doubt anyone is going to accomplish this. Also, why would you want Sense? It is probably the most bloated of all the OEM Skins out there.
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Bloated?, yeah, but I think sense has a better personality.....
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Install a rom that has a theme chooser, download sense aokp/cm theme from market, HTC icons, APW widgets and Nova launcher. That will get you pretty close.
*edit, nevermind. Sense theme chooser theme doesn't work, at least with the cm10 with tablet mod I am using.
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Is there any way to use the Ink Effect from Galaxy Note II (also used on GSIII) on the Nexus 10? A port or something would be possible? I'm sure many of us would love this, I guess answer will be no, but I don't lose anything by asking it. Thanks.
Noone has any clue?
Noone really?
Most people probably have no idea what you even mean by "ink effect"
And besides, if you want proprietary things that a certain phone has, buy that phone.
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Most people probably have no idea what you even mean by "ink effect"
And besides, if you want proprietary things that a certain phone has, buy that phone.
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That's ink effect: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NBUL46wvr4
And im saying if anyone knows if it's possible to port. Sounds good what you say, so if an app for example does not work in my device, you are telling me to buy another device to make it work, yea sounds pretty good.
If it was that way there wouldn't be many roms that actually exist, thanks to other phones, that they can be ported from.
If you are going to comment, atleast get some argumments and make a point.
He is right if you want the feature you should get the device that has the feature. Also the internals of the Nexus 10 and the Note II are completely different so porting would be extremely difficult if not impossible. Also to software is completely different. The Note II runs Samsung proprietary software and the Nexus is ASOP. Software like HTC and Samsung use one their devices are almost complete rewrites of ICS. Or Jellybean and have very little in common with ASOP.
Firstly, I'm NOT a Developer - I want to make that very clear
I have been trying to get data/info about what ever happened to the Original Samsung Galaxy S4 'TouchWiz'
Camera feature/ability to be able to 'Simultaneously' record videos (not talking about taking pictures here)
with both the front and back cameras on the phone.
This question has been asked before by a very very very small number of people on the net including in XDA
developers forums, However these questions only have been asked on forums relating to NEXUS phones/devices.
When i originally bought my S4 (second hand) i used the recording feature, i absolutely love it, i think it it brilliant,
it is one of the reasons why the S4 has such appeal for me.
I later upgraded to CyanogenMod, because of privacy concerns relating to Samsungs Involvement with the NSA over
their KNOX security.
The OS seemed fine to me, but this security concern was the basis of WHY i moved over to CyanogenMod.
Then i found out, that CyanogenMod does NOT Support the Dual Camera feature.
I contacted Samsung, and they told me that the Camera app was not really an app at all, but was in fact part of the OS itself.
But remember, the Genuine Samsung Galaxy is actually model number GT-i9500, which uses the Exynos Chip, unlike the Samsung Galaxy S4
variant known as the S4 LTE GT-i9505, which uses the Qualcom Chipset.
It has also been said by some XDA developers, that Samsungs 'TouchWiz' is not Open Source, it is Closed Source.
Well belonging to the company, this is no surprise, I'll also bet that it is probably Patented as well.
I say, so what ?, CyanogenMod does NOT need the original samsung 'TouchWiz' code, it only needs to know the HardwareSpecs of the Qualcom
Chip, then programming/developing can begin.
The S4 is already Superceeded by the S5 (and any possible variant(s) of that), i feel that the GT-i9505 is getting left out of the picture.
Are there any answers to this mystery ???
The7Suggester said:
Firstly, I'm NOT a Developer - I want to make that very clear
I have been trying to get data/info about what ever happened to the Original Samsung Galaxy S4 'TouchWiz'
Camera feature/ability to be able to 'Simultaneously' record videos (not talking about taking pictures here)
with both the front and back cameras on the phone.
This question has been asked before by a very very very small number of people on the net including in XDA
developers forums, However these questions only have been asked on forums relating to NEXUS phones/devices.
When i originally bought my S4 (second hand) i used the recording feature, i absolutely love it, i think it it brilliant,
it is one of the reasons why the S4 has such appeal for me.
I later upgraded to CyanogenMod, because of privacy concerns relating to Samsungs Involvement with the NSA over
their KNOX security.
The OS seemed fine to me, but this security concern was the basis of WHY i moved over to CyanogenMod.
Then i found out, that CyanogenMod does NOT Support the Dual Camera feature.
I contacted Samsung, and they told me that the Camera app was not really an app at all, but was in fact part of the OS itself.
But remember, the Genuine Samsung Galaxy is actually model number GT-i9500, which uses the Exynos Chip, unlike the Samsung Galaxy S4
variant known as the S4 LTE GT-i9505, which uses the Qualcom Chipset.
It has also been said by some XDA developers, that Samsungs 'TouchWiz' is not Open Source, it is Closed Source.
Well belonging to the company, this is no surprise, I'll also bet that it is probably Patented as well.
I say, so what ?, CyanogenMod does NOT need the original samsung 'TouchWiz' code, it only needs to know the HardwareSpecs of the Qualcom
Chip, then programming/developing can begin.
The S4 is already Superceeded by the S5 (and any possible variant(s) of that), i feel that the GT-i9505 is getting left out of the picture.
Are there any answers to this mystery ???
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What mystery? That Cyanogen doesn't offer the ability to record with the front and back cameras at the same time?
That's not a mystery. It's that only 1 person out of a million would ever want to do that so no one is devoting their development time to integrating that feature.
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Skipjacks said:
What mystery? That Cyanogen doesn't offer the ability to record with the front and back cameras at the same time?
That's not a mystery. It's that only 1 person out of a million would ever want to do that so no one is devoting their development time to integrating that feature.
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I'm afraid I'm not completely sure i know what you mean?
Do you mean that there would only be 1 Developer out of a million who would use this feature, and therefore no support would be actioned for this ?
OR do you mean that in your opinion there are hardly any people who would own a phone like the S4 that would want to use this feature.
Why would anyone *NOT* want to do this. It's fun for one thing.
Maybe I've made a mistake but, i thought that one of the things that XDA devs were all about, was trying to fix or patch areas on OS's
where the mainstream had overlooked, and especially about importing and bringing new features about to free OS's such as CyanogenMod.
Could you please clarify i bit more carefully about, this.
Skipjacks said:
What mystery? That Cyanogen doesn't offer the ability to record with the front and back cameras at the same time?
That's not a mystery. It's that only 1 person out of a million would ever want to do that so no one is devoting their development time to integrating that feature.
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You are pretty close minded even though I don't use that feature myself.
V-bloggers love using that feature.
But I do agree with you. AOSP is suppose to provide a clean experience
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Thank you for backing me up on this issue
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You are pretty close minded even though I don't use that feature myself.
V-bloggers love using that feature.
But I do agree with you. AOSP is suppose to provide a clean experience
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The insults aren't needed.
I stated a fact. There is not enough desire for this feature for developers to devote time to coding it instead of coding something else that is more heavily requested.
If there were a strong desire for it developers would be looking to fill that need.
But there are alternate methods to getting this feature...like using touchwiz. So there aren't many devs who want to spend time coding a little used feature that is already available elsewhere. Especially one they don't intend to use themselves, and not when there are more popular mods that people are asking for in droves like gps fixes and updated kernels and theme manager fixes.
Keep insulting me if you like for telling it like it is. But this is the simple reason why this feature hasnt been widely developed.
If the OP really wants to do this on an AOSP rom, he can learn how to develop. Many many many people here learned how to code specifically to create a feature they wanted.
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The insults aren't needed.
I stated a fact. There is not enough desire for this feature for developers to devote time to coding it instead of coding something else that is more heavily requested.
If there were a strong desire for it developers would be looking to fill that need.
But there are alternate methods to getting this feature...like using touchwiz. So there aren't many devs who want to spend time coding a little used feature that is already available elsewhere. Especially one they don't intend to use themselves, and not when there are more popular mods that people are asking for in droves like gps fixes and updated kernels and theme manager fixes.
Keep insulting me if you like for telling it like it is. But this is the simple reason why this feature hasnt been widely developed.
If the OP really wants to do this on an AOSP rom, he can learn how to develop. Many many many people here learned how to code specifically to create a feature they wanted.
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I didn't really back him up or said you were an insult.
I said that AOSP rooms should be free of non Google modifications.
But I am just telling you again that there are probably more than a million in one desiring for that feature because some people like to v-blog
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The insults aren't needed.
I stated a fact. There is not enough desire for this feature for developers to devote time to coding it instead of coding something else that is more heavily requested.
If there were a strong desire for it developers would be looking to fill that need.
But there are alternate methods to getting this feature...like using touchwiz. So there aren't many devs who want to spend time coding a little used feature that is already available elsewhere. Especially one they don't intend to use themselves, and not when there are more popular mods that people are asking for in droves like gps fixes and updated kernels and theme manager fixes.
Keep insulting me if you like for telling it like it is. But this is the simple reason why this feature hasnt been widely developed.
If the OP really wants to do this on an AOSP rom, he can learn how to develop. Many many many people here learned how to code specifically to create a feature they wanted.
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OK, Fine your point is now made.
But just remember, at least on the Samsung series of phones, the S1, S2, and S3 did NOT have this feature, the S4 was the first phone by Samsung to have this feature, and the S5 is now officially the 'Flag Ship' phone for Samsung.
As with continued development of multi-media standards, i.e. 4K for a start now available on the Sony Experia Z2 phone for one,
the demand for ever increasing video recording features and abilities will continue to increase, so it would not really surprise me, if later
on this feature were to start appearing in later makes & models of phones down the line.
You really have to consider what % of people will even know or find out about free AOSP OS's like CyanogenMod, for one thing,
and even then what % of those people will even upgrade to such OS's.
The demand for Dual Camera Video Recording will probably go up and up amongst the general populace of phone users.
Right now the demands are other things, things like theme development, bug fixes, etc.
Having ones 'foot-in-the-door-now' so to speak, could be a worth while investment for later on.
Sure the demand NOW is very little, but if devs wait till later on to do this, then when the demands get bigger (presumably with newer
models of phones), devs will be flooded with all sorts of bugs to have to sort out on all the different OS types and versions,
- while the demand is great -, thats a lot of pressure on devs, which would also slow down development in other areas.
I think now, i have made my point. While this does sound purely like an argument just so i can gain something for myself - it's for ALL other people. I dont and cannot claim to represent what people in the world who own phones want. But logic sais that if i want this, then there are lots of people in the world who want this, just because XDA devs have not heard of such people, does not mean that they dont exist.
Besides I'm talking about being able to record video with 2 cameras at the same time, is that really such a grand feat ?,
Hell the XPrivacy program i use that XDA devs made was a Major Feat, Dual Camera support cant be THAT difficult to implement.
As for your other comments:
"But there are alternate methods to getting this feature...like using touchwiz." - well i think i already explained why i went to CyanogenMod in
the first place.
"If the OP really wants to do this on an AOSP rom, he can learn how to develop. Many many many people here learned how to code specifically to create a feature they wanted.[/QUOTE]" - Actually when i was a kid i programmed BASIC, but i have brain damage due to seizures affecting
my long and short term memory, so sorry, your claim that any OP can program is incorrect.
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Your point made? I still don't even know what your point is.
Look, I get that this feature is important to you. But that does not mean that it's important to a large percentage of everyone else.
The Samsung AirView features are far more requested to be ported to AOSP roms but even then the demand is so small compared to the demand for things like floating windows, hover notifications, theming fixes, Knox workarounds, etc. No devs even want to tackle the AirView features, which get asked about at least once a week on the various S4 forums, because there isn't enough demand. And there's even less demand for simultaneous duel camera use.
In the years I've been here this is the first time I've ever heard of a request for simultaneous duel camera use. And I read nearly every post here nearly every day. So while I appreciate that this feature is something that's really important to you, it's just not in high demand.
And there is zero incentive to develop it now before it becomes high demand later. There's no money to be made in rom modding. If people suddenly want this feature down the road it'll get developed then. There is no early investment incentive in this. Phone modding is a hobby. Like fishing or model trains. We do it for fun, not for money.
As for the difficulty of simultaneous duel camera use...yes, it could be THAT hard to develop. It's not just an app. Something like this that controls 2 pieces of hardware at once would have to be coded into the kernel. And while kernel tweaking is fairly common, completely new kernel features are scarce because it's a very limited number of people who can do it. (And the stock kernel is closed source so it's not like the code can just be lifted from the Samsung version)
Second, once you had the ability to do it in the kernel you'd need an app that could take advantage of the support. You couldn't use the stock camera. You'd need something new. So that's a second layer of development. So this isn't a quick 1 hour project. It's a lot of hours that someone would have to put into it, for something that isn't being asked for very much.
This is the reason it's not being done yet. Don't be mad at me for giving you the honest answer.
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Your point made? I still don't even know what your point is.
Look, I get that this feature is important to you. But that does not mean that it's important to a large percentage of everyone else.
The Samsung AirView features are far more requested to be ported to AOSP roms but even then the demand is so small compared to the demand for things like floating windows, hover notifications, theming fixes, Knox workarounds, etc. No devs even want to tackle the AirView features, which get asked about at least once a week on the various S4 forums, because there isn't enough demand. And there's even less demand for simultaneous duel camera use.
In the years I've been here this is the first time I've ever heard of a request for simultaneous duel camera use. And I read nearly every post here nearly every day. So while I appreciate that this feature is something that's really important to you, it's just not in high demand.
And there is zero incentive to develop it now before it becomes high demand later. There's no money to be made in rom modding. If people suddenly want this feature down the road it'll get developed then. There is no early investment incentive in this. Phone modding is a hobby. Like fishing or model trains. We do it for fun, not for money.
As for the difficulty of simultaneous duel camera use...yes, it could be THAT hard to develop. It's not just an app. Something like this that controls 2 pieces of hardware at once would have to be coded into the kernel. And while kernel tweaking is fairly common, completely new kernel features are scarce because it's a very limited number of people who can do it. (And the stock kernel is closed source so it's not like the code can just be lifted from the Samsung version)
Second, once you had the ability to do it in the kernel you'd need an app that could take advantage of the support. You couldn't use the stock camera. You'd need something new. So that's a second layer of development. So this isn't a quick 1 hour project. It's a lot of hours that someone would have to put into it, for something that isn't being asked for very much.
This is the reason it's not being done yet. Don't be mad at me for giving you the honest answer.
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"And there is zero incentive to develop it now before it becomes high demand later. There's no money to be made in rom modding. If people suddenly want this feature down the road it'll get developed then. There is no early investment incentive in this. Phone modding is a hobby. Like fishing or model trains. We do it for fun, not for money."
Well i think that everything i said above are _VALID POINTS_ points i would have though would have been important enough for XDA devs to consider.
It seems to me that there simply is TOO MUCH demand on the XDA devs in general.
"There's no money to be made in rom modding."
As for 'INVESTMENTS' - I did _NOT_ mention business or money making at all - I meant your investment in coding/programming, your time put into work.
"There is no early investment incentive in this. Phone modding is a hobby. Like fishing or model trains. We do it for fun, not for money."
Well, i guess i will have to turn to people i CAN pay money to, to make it more 'worthwhile' for minority's such as myself, if not a dev.
Ben.
The7Suggester said:
Well, i guess i will have to turn to people i CAN pay money to, to make it more 'worthwhile' for minority's such as myself, if not a dev.
Ben.
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Nothing wrong with that! Try to find a group of likeminded people who want this on AOSP and put a bounty together to offer to a developer.
is there a quick, plug and play way to root my phone? like, plug it in, run a program, and phone is done. or can someone point me to the thread that has the easiest way to do it? with custom recovery? I have rooted a phone before. HTC EVO 4g. im so sick of TW. I have tried different launchers, and while some are good, (nova), its just a laggy overlay. I would like to get a general google play edition. 4.4. I have even debated on swapping my phone for a LG, or even HTC M8.
Thanks a ton..
try going to the dev section, then searching