Related
Whoever can show their lag on the clip. This would help me and others. I'm now curious since I've been on my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 for a while now that I'm so used to lag that I dont even notice it.
SysAdmNj said:
Whoever can show their lag on the clip. This would help me and others. I'm now curious since I've been on my Nexus 4 with 4.2.2 for a while now that I'm so used to lag that I dont even notice it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here is mine. The lag is not bad, but pretty much everywhere. Obviously an issue with 4.2.2. I don't know. When it doesn't lag the phone is super smooth. I hope they fix this soon.
Samsung obviously didn't optimize their software to run properly on 4.2.2. Makes me miss how fluid the UI was on the Note 2.
Not the best quality, but still good enough to see.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPiHs2yacs8&feature=youtu.be
Why would you clear your ram...
With 2 gb theres no need to. Plus its fluid when you leave it alone. Thats like using a task manager from the play store.
j510 said:
Why would you clear your ram...
With 2 gb theres no need to. Plus its fluid when you leave it alone. Thats like using a task manager from the play store.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For tests like this, it's best to clear ram so you're starting with an empty plate. Just like if you were benchmarking, running browser speed tests, etc.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
I dont see a whole lot of lag in that video.
I wouldn't say it looks laggy. It's more sluggish. But its pretty minor.
It's not as fluid as I want it to be. I might get annoyed.
EDIT:
I heard if you turn off all those gimikey features. IE eye detections ect. it should fix the lag a bit.
Since that video I've performed a factory reset. Gonna do another video soon.
new video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHZ8cTxXrqM&feature=youtu.be
MattMJB0188 said:
Since that video I've performed a factory reset. Gonna do another video soon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you do one after the reset. And another one with ALL the gimick features off? Thanks.
Noticed exactly the same on my mates gs3 - it was unusable, up to 3 seconds till home launcher and frequent redraws.
Samsung completely kills androids performance, and for that price and hardware its a shame.
Thats why many people prefer apple - my iPod Touch with 200 apps still runned better than my mates gs3 for almost the double price with 50 apps. Android is getting very, very slow after some use. Calls, sms, apps, after every month you'll loose lets say 10% of performance, related to how you use your phone, more performance loss in the beginning, less after some use.
And touchwiz makes everything sloooww :/
You only notice, when you install 300 apps on iPhone and gs4. Gs4 will lag, I can gurantee.
Especially 4.2.2 was a kind of downgrade, lots things are "tasty" things, you may like or not.
IF Google could bring beak Gingerbreads performance and ram managment + project butter and some new features on android 5.0, I would marry them
I just did this video about 10 minutes ago and would like to get some input on it. I will try to do when in more depth video when I have time.
MattMJB0188 said:
I just did this video about 10 minutes ago and would like to get some input on it. I will try to do when in more depth video when I have time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
on your second video i notice the sluggishness start around 55 seconds.
What settings did you turn on? S beam, NFC, Air Gesture... ETC ???
Is your Model made in China or Korea?
hyghonryce said:
on your second video i notice the sluggishness start around 55 seconds.
What settings did you turn on? S beam, NFC, Air Gesture... ETC ???
Is your Model made in China or Korea?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
All of those were off and my model was made in Korea.
MattMJB0188 said:
All of those were off and my model was made in Korea.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well based on the polls. They said the korean one has lag but it's minimal. and it appears to be quite minimal on your phone. so it's "normal".
As the topic title says, i'm looking for a new phone to replace my boring xperia s (bootloader loocked...) and the maximum i wanna spend is 400€. So,for this money the oppo find 5 is the best option? The feature that i most apreciate is taking photos, and my xperia s do it very well...
Sent from my LT26i using xda app-developers app
The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5
Exactly the switch I made XS->Find5. I thought about getting the HTC One or the S4, but since I planned on running a custom ROM, I didn't want to pay for features I wouldn't use anyway.
Regrets? No. The Find5 has a Sony Sensor as camera, AFAIK the same as in the XZ. On stock ROM, the cam is pretty good, not so much on custom ROMs, though, usual closed source binary blob problems.
vitorugo-8 said:
As the topic title says, i'm looking for a new phone to replace my boring xperia s (bootloader loocked...) and the maximum i wanna spend is 400€. So,for this money the oppo find 5 is the best option? The feature that i most apreciate is taking photos, and my xperia s do it very well...
Sent from my LT26i using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi!
If you are looking a brand new one, maybe this is the one with best camera for this price (I dont know anything about Nokia and WP) you can buy for that amount.
If you dont mind, maybe you can take a Xperia Z (same sensor, but better app) in the second market.
P.S: Yes, this is my first post in about 3 years LOL! (I prefer reading)
Regards from sPAIN
kinghu said:
The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
at the beggining i was thinking about xperia z (i'm a huge fan of the xperia line) or htc one (i don't like the samsung plastic), but i reconsidered that ... 550€ or more for a phone? i think it´s to much, so i stablished the 400€ limit, and for that money, and new phones (not used) i'm in between nexus 4 or the oppo find 5 ( i believe they are the only with superb specs and not so expensive phones ). But the nexus 4 is 4.7 inch screen, and an 8mp camera ( but i guess the 8mp i just a number).
3 things that i consider in a phone : camera; battery; development.
So, what you guys say?
If camera is a priority then you may be better looking elsewhere.
The Find 5 camera is OK in good light but struggles otherwise. My wife has a Nexus 4 and I don't rate that camera either.
-- From my Find 5
I agree the Oppo is nothing to get mad excited about. The camera is very noisy. Actually in HDR mode my pictures on the Nexus 4 turned out way better!
CodeX86 said:
I agree the Oppo is nothing to get mad excited about. The camera is very noisy. Actually in HDR mode my pictures on the Nexus 4 turned out way better!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so the camera is worst than an xperia s?
vitorugo-8 said:
so the camera is worst than an xperia s?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Never had the chance to compare to a Xperia S.
But for the claims made by their commercial it doesn't live up to the promise.
Gesendet von meinem Find 5 mit Tapatalk 4 Beta
kinghu said:
The camera is OK but nothing amazing in my experience which is fine for me and Faux kernel has done wonders my battery life (+30-40%). Not sure the camera can compare to the Xperia.
Despite those niggles, I'd recommend the F5 above others to friends if asked but it depends on your needs. I certainly prefer it over the Note 2 and Nexus 4. For me is the sweet spot between size, screen, performance and design.
What else is on your short list?
-- From my Find 5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.
Elwood_It said:
I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well you can forget the Stock firmware even with fauxes Kernel it will suck you dry. The best experience as far as battery life i had so far was with Cyanogenmod. Even so it is not running an optimized Kernel it seems to handle power mangement way better!
5-6 hours screen on is way over what you will be able to achieve with normal day 2 day use. For sure you will max out at the moment at 4 hours screen on time.
If you are looking for a new phone with lot's of battery life i would hold of another 1-2 month and see what others have to offer because Oppo didn't even release 4.2 yet but they are planning on in early August. Until then don't bother!
so, in conclusion, despite the problems with the camera ( which i think it's a software problem, not hardware ) for 400€, and with a custom rom, the oppo it's the best phone on the market?
CodeX86 said:
Well you can forget the Stock firmware even with fauxes Kernel it will suck you dry. The best experience as far as battery life i had so far was with Cyanogenmod. Even so it is not running an optimized Kernel it seems to handle power mangement way better!
5-6 hours screen on is way over what you will be able to achieve with normal day 2 day use. For sure you will max out at the moment at 4 hours screen on time.
If you are looking for a new phone with lot's of battery life i would hold of another 1-2 month and see what others have to offer because Oppo didn't even release 4.2 yet but they are planning on in early August. Until then don't bother!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thank you very much for the answer!
camera is far from bad.. not the best in low light and yes noise can be a problem but i walked out in garden snapped some pics
nothing wrong with it IMO, i actually think its quite good! a lot better than my s2 was.
grudas said:
camera is far from bad.. not the best in low light and yes noise can be a problem but i walked out in garden snapped some pics
nothing wrong with it IMO, i actually think its quite good! a lot better than my s2 was.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
uou those pictures are amazing ... i'm not any expert, but i think the picture quality are far from bad ... are you using any tweak or something? or it's the stock camera app?
vitorugo-8 said:
uou those pictures are amazing ... i'm not any expert, but i think the picture quality are far from bad ... are you using any tweak or something? or it's the stock camera app?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
stock camera and stock rom only thing i've done is root and kill the stock launcher, thats it no editing on those either straight out of the phone in full res.
Elwood_It said:
I too am interested in this phone, one of my main concerns is battery life.
When you say you have about 30-40% more battery life, how many screen on time are you talking about? 5-6 hours?
Thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry just saw this... I've tried most of the stock/beta ROMs and as a light to moderate user, it lasts me about 24-36 hours. Without faux kernel I would get around 3 to 3.5 hours screen on (email, twitter, browser, Tapatalk, watching a TV show, taking pics/video and a few calls).
With faux setup for battery life, I can get 4.5 to 5 hours doing the same stuff and there isn't really a performance hit as I'm not doing much needing the phone to run at full speed for long.
It was really the idle drain that was killing it at around ~1.5%-2% per hour rather than ~0.8% with faux. Usually, I'm on wifi and have GPS on and leave them on when sleeping so it was overnight that saw a big improvement.
grudas said:
stock camera and stock rom only thing i've done is root and kill the stock launcher, thats it no editing on those either straight out of the phone in full res.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I used Stock to for a while and when you do close ups the camera makes some pretty nice pictures. But as soon as contrasts aren't really there anymore it gets potentially noisy.
I mean how much can you really expect from a smartphone camera sensor without any optics to adjust depth.
Your pictures are nice. I made some nice ones myself but they don't measure up to HTC One's Ultrapixel contrast and light condition abilities.
Funny part about all of this is probably that drivers neither on Stock or Custom are really optimized.
I do though still think the state the phone is in right now it is not worth it. Neither Stock Software nor Custom give you a really great experience with the device right now.
CodeX86 said:
I do though still think the state the phone is in right now it is not worth it. Neither Stock Software nor Custom give you a really great experience with the device right now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
After trying numerous stock and custom ROM/kernel combinations, I have to disagree. Last week's Chinese Firefly is, IMO, very usable in terms of performance, battery life, and reliability.
I posted some findings here:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/project-firefly-v1-0-0_3186b.2016/page-19#post-53441
kinghu said:
After trying numerous stock and custom ROM/kernel combinations, I have to disagree. Last week's Chinese Firefly is, IMO, very usable in terms of performance, battery life, and reliability.
I posted some findings here:
http://www.oppoforums.com/threads/project-firefly-v1-0-0_3186b.2016/page-19#post-53441
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah and you will have to lay a little more weight on chinese open beta...
hi guys, first of all i dont have the note 4 but planning on getting one in about half a year, but there is a video i saw on youtube and the note 4 lags in switching between apps just like any other samsung its slower than the G3 and iphone ( no surprise here )....is this lag real?? because if it really have that lag maybe i should buy something else....that you think....??
hajyihia said:
hi guys, first of all i dont have the note 4 but planning on getting one in about half a year, but there is a video i saw on youtube and the note 4 lags in switching between apps just like any other samsung its slower than the G3 and iphone ( no surprise here )....is this lag real?? because if it really have that lag maybe i should buy something else....that you think....??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The recent button delay is true. It's there and I haven't seen a way to fix it yet but this is the only one. The phone should perform outstanding in every way.
There's even a speed test video of the exynos version against the iphone 6+ and the note is right up there even with ultra heavy TW.
---------- Post added at 12:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:06 PM ----------
If you are planning on buying it in only 6 months, you'll have plenty of time to research, go to the store check it for yourself, play with your friend's device and there will be tons of videos comparing the note with other phones.
gabrielgon said:
The recent button delay is true. It's there and I haven't seen a way to fix it yet but this is the only one. The phone should perform outstanding in every way.
There's even a speed test video of the exynos version against the iphone 6+ and the note is right up there even with ultra heavy TW.
---------- Post added at 12:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:06 PM ----------
If you are planning on buying it in only 6 months, you'll have plenty of time to research, go to the store check it for yourself, play with your friend's device and there will be tons of videos comparing the note with other phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
the thing is i had galaxy S2 for about 20 months, now i have S4 for a year, the note 4 doesnt look that better in the day to day performance...its the same TW...i checked htc one m8 but the camera is really bad, xperia z3...its ui looks outdated, G3...they say it lags and the battery not that good, thats the problem there is really no complete phone....note 4 is the best all around...but that lag when switching between apps kills it just like my S4....
dont buy it.
you sound like the type of person that finds faults with everything.
This is what custom roms are for, the phone itself is a powerhouse but Samsung insists that it keeps using its laggy TW on everything, put stock android on it and i bet the thing would fly.
As stated above, it seems like you do find fault in every single thing. But yes, the Note 4 lags because well touchwiz lags. I went to multiple bestbuy to try it out and it is the same touchwiz lag. But of course, upon placing other launchers and some tweaks (assuming you are going to root) all should be well.
I understand you man, I want the perfect phone too! But sadly, they are not computers which you can choose every single component of it. So you need to research and you'll find the one that best suits your needs. The note 4 will be FAR better than your s4. Faster, bigger battery, better camera, insane ppi, bigger screen.... You can flash a new rom, use a different launcher, apply tweaks or wait for the next nexus which will be huge and pure android. There are tons of options out there
mgbotoe said:
As stated above, it seems like you do find fault in every single thing. But yes, the Note 4 lags because well touchwiz lags. I went to multiple bestbuy to try it out and it is the same touchwiz lag. But of course, upon placing other launchers and some tweaks (assuming you are going to root) all should be well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, im using Nova and customised my Note 4 for a bit, and now for me it's great~
---------- Post added at 09:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:09 AM ----------
hajyihia said:
the thing is i had galaxy S2 for about 20 months, now i have S4 for a year, the note 4 doesnt look that better in the day to day performance...its the same TW...i checked htc one m8 but the camera is really bad, xperia z3...its ui looks outdated, G3...they say it lags and the battery not that good, thats the problem there is really no complete phone....note 4 is the best all around...but that lag when switching between apps kills it just like my S4....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is android... u can modify or customise it at all time. Once u did, u will tell the difference. There is no perfect hardware and neither software, but Android gives u a freedom platform to configure your own phone. This is the reason why people choose Android.
wase4711 said:
dont buy it.
you sound like the type of person that finds faults with everything.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
^^^^^^
This.
Good Lord, the phone's not even in many people's hands yet. Phones on the floor of a super-store like Best Buy are horrible examples to go by. My BB has them all running in demo mode which tells you nothing but, assuming other BB's have them running in "real" mode, who knows what kind of crap's been loaded on them and how many people have screwed with the settings. According to people on its forum my Note 3 lags horribly. News to me and I've had it for a year with 152 apps running on it.
As for the G3, please. It never should have been released with S-801/QHD, it throttles to save battery, and still gets absolutely awful battery life anyway. I can't see how the Note 4 (or any S-805 and up phone) could possibly do worse.
thanks for the help....i do hope samsung fix the lag because thats the only reason many people wont buy it....i still have about 6 months to research...so ill wait
Try disabling svoice
It's called Turbo Lag. :silly:
hajyihia said:
hi guys, first of all i dont have the note 4 but planning on getting one in about half a year, but there is a video i saw on youtube and the note 4 lags in switching between apps just like any other samsung its slower than the G3 and iphone ( no surprise here )....is this lag real?? because if it really have that lag maybe i should buy something else....that you think....??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If that lag you speak of happens when you "long press" the home button
(recent apps) then it's not really a lag at all, it only seems like it due to the
fact that the home button needs a long press to bring up the recent apps.
The solution for this is to get rid of the default touchwiz launcher and
get a launcher which has the option of re-assigning the home/back/menu
keys so after the "recent apps" are assigned to use the "menu softkey" or
the "back softkey" using a single click then you will find no more lags in
bringing up the "recent apps" or switching tasks.
Good luck!
hajyihia said:
thanks for the help....i do hope samsung fix the lag because thats the only reason many people wont buy it....i still have about 6 months to research...so ill wait
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
By then you will be in an s6 thread nitpicking something else. Good luck...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
BigJPNut said:
By the you will be in an s6 thread nitpicking something else. Good luck...
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
listen if you dont have something helpful to say then dont say anything...i have S4 and i know and everybody know what i am talking about when i say lag...maybe i should say stuttering...every TW user knows that...and i am not nitpicking anything...just hoping that samsung fix there only problem....
hajyihia said:
listen if you dont have something helpful to say then dont say anything...i have S4 and i know and everybody know what i am talking about when i say lag...maybe i should say stuttering...every TW user knows that...and i am not nitpicking anything...just hoping that samsung fix there only problem....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
First your not even buying a phone for half a year lol. Its been said dozens of times, if not hundreds that this version of TW is cleaned up and smoother then ever...geez! Just read.This is arguably the most powerful and fastest phone to date. Every phone has some sort of lag somewhere in the UI..get a grip. Like i said, im sure ill see you in the s6 thread crying about something else long before you reach in your pocket to finally upgrade...good luck
Sent from my SM-G900P using Tapatalk
hajyihia said:
listen if you dont have something helpful to say then dont say anything...i have S4 and i know and everybody know what i am talking about when i say lag...maybe i should say stuttering...every TW user knows that...and i am not nitpicking anything...just hoping that samsung fix there only problem....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not every TW user. I have a Note 2 that I am fairly happy with, and don't really notice lag. Its a matter of if you focus on it, you will notice it.
Maybe Samsung isn't for you if your not happy with it. There are other options.
I'm sure if you take a close look at the note4 you can see it has a back,home and recents button. sorry about that just though i should correct that. It doesn't use home button long press. That said, I saw android authority review of it and did not see any lag that Op speaks of.
Misterjunky said:
If that lag you speak of happens when you "long press" the home button
(recent apps) then it's not really a lag at all, it only seems like it due to the
fact that the home button needs a long press to bring up the recent apps.
The solution for this is to get rid of the default touchwiz launcher and
get a launcher which has the option of re-assigning the home/back/menu
keys so after the "recent apps" are assigned to use the "menu softkey" or
the "back softkey" using a single click then you will find no more lags in
bringing up the "recent apps" or switching tasks.
Good luck!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
BarryH_GEG said:
^^^^^^
This.
Good Lord, the phone's not even in many people's hands yet. Phones on the floor of a super-store like Best Buy are horrible examples to go by. My BB has them all running in demo mode which tells you nothing but, assuming other BB's have them running in "real" mode, who knows what kind of crap's been loaded on them and how many people have screwed with the settings. According to people on its forum my Note 3 lags horribly. News to me and I've had it for a year with 152 apps running on it.
As for the G3, please. It never should have been released with S-801/QHD, it throttles to save battery, and still gets absolutely awful battery life anyway. I can't see how the Note 4 (or any S-805 and up phone) could possibly do worse.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Totally agree with you!
hajyihia said:
thanks for the help....i do hope samsung fix the lag because thats the only reason many people wont buy it....i still have about 6 months to research...so ill wait
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i think u are the only one who wouldnt buy it..
I don't have a good first impression of my S6.
The stock rom eats 8G of the internal storage.
It has a terrible lag, and jitters all over the place. Even just scrolling up and down in the settings screen is laggy. The lag in Chrome gets very frustrating very quickly
Too much bloatware. A whole microsoft suite (among other things) that I will never use and cannot uninstall
Touchwiz launcher, its not really great
On the plus side
the finger scanner is good.
The screen is really nice, but I suppose rendering all those pixels is whats causing it to lag like crazy.
Pleased that samsung made a theme chooser. At last we can remove the awful default turquoise colours.
But I immediately know I'm going to have to root and put a custom rom on here to get it working to my satisfaction .... is there any ROM recommendations to remove all lags, stutters and bloatware?
Is it just me? I am surprised I don't see a ton of people complaining about this
Im on xtrestolite deo mod and have no of the problem i had with stock u could always get titanium backup and freeze all that bloat might help. I know that when i ran stock it would often run out of ram. Now i have betwewn 1 and 1.4gb free.
Wait for the Marshmallow update and judge it again then. Samsung redesigned the whole TouchWiz thing launcher, icons, performance everything. From what I read from the beta is really promising and fast.
Never saw any lag, stock or otherwise. I did occasionally have some low ram redraws on stock, but on roms those are long gone. Maybe take a look in your application manager at what's running and see if there's any unnecessary junk running that's eating your ram. Did it start or persist from any old software, or show up from new software ie updates?
benjmiester said:
Never saw any lag, stock or otherwise. I did occasionally have some low ram redraws on stock, but on roms those are long gone. Maybe take a look in your application manager at what's running and see if there's any unnecessary junk running that's eating your ram. Did it start or persist from any old software, or show up from new software ie updates?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Me too, no lag at all, with stock BUT... if you run MM BETA and then go back to 5.1.1 you will see a very "slow device"
This phone does lag like hell, I had one about 7 months a go and that wasn't too bad.
Picked one up last week and the difference is shocking now, have tried different launchers and no difference.
Makes me laugh how Samsung can't seem to make a phone that is smooth. I have even swapped this out for another one.
All this guff about no more lag in the press conference.
Never had any issues even before I rooted and put a stock modified rom, only thing I would have liked better is battery life, but I get a days use out of it atleast
No offense, but anyone saying the S6 doesn't lag or stutter must either not know what we're talking about or have low fps eyes ?. This phone is an absolute lagfest on stock firmware.
Try scrolling in Google+ or even Tapatalk and you'll see dropped frames all over the place.
Just about the only thing that helps is flashing a custom kernel and enabling enforced mode (try Unikernel for size). That makes a world of difference.
yes I have the s6 since 4 months now. before I had a oneplus one. this was fast. but the s6 is very Laggy. however it has the best benchmarks but the Ui it's definitely Laggy on every edge. so I had a lot of other devices before. for me the most qualcom devices are running smoother. but there are some other positive aspects on the s6
Gesendet von meinem SM-G920F mit Tapatalk
st0kes said:
I don't have a good first impression of my S6.
...
It has a terrible lag, and jitters all over the place. Even just scrolling up and down in the settings screen is laggy. The lag in Chrome gets very frustrating very quickly
...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lag?? U sure, mate? I'm using the S6 for more than a few months now and there is no lag in the UI. Maybe some minor frame drops occasionally (I'm sensitive to those , most people don't notice them), but no lag. It's not normal.
Mine is stock with some native apps disabled. Also I jave turned off the smart manager protection. And I can compare it with Nexus 5. I'v had many Android devices and I know what I'm talking about.
st0kes said:
I don't have a good first impression of my S6.
The stock rom eats 8G of the internal storage.
It has a terrible lag, and jitters all over the place. Even just scrolling up and down in the settings screen is laggy. The lag in Chrome gets very frustrating very quickly
Too much bloatware. A whole microsoft suite (among other things) that I will never use and cannot uninstall
Touchwiz launcher, its not really great
On the plus side
the finger scanner is good.
The screen is really nice, but I suppose rendering all those pixels is whats causing it to lag like crazy.
Pleased that samsung made a theme chooser. At last we can remove the awful default turquoise colours.
But I immediately know I'm going to have to root and put a custom rom on here to get it working to my satisfaction .... is there any ROM recommendations to remove all lags, stutters and bloatware?
Is it just me? I am surprised I don't see a ton of people complaining about this
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
buy another phone. it's that simple.
Sent from my SM-N920C using Tapatalk
e34v8 said:
Lag?? U sure, mate? I'm using the S6 for more than a few months now and there is no lag in the UI. Maybe some minor frame drops occasionally (I'm sensitive to those , most people don't notice them), but no lag. It's not normal.
Mine is stock with some native apps disabled. Also I jave turned off the smart manager protection. And I can compare it with Nexus 5. I'v had many Android devices and I know what I'm talking about.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I've also owned countless Android devices (including Nexus). Most recently I came from an OPO and a Z3C before the S6. GUI lag/stutter is a pet peeve of mine with Android, and while the OPO was almost perfect after some optimization and the Z3C turned out OK, the S6 is frankly a joke in comparison. Especially considering its theoretically superior performance.
innit said:
buy another phone. it's that simple.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you always give up so easily?
I think I'll try the Samsung marshmallow firmware, cheers for the tip @Riardon ... if its just the same I'll try some custom roms.
I'm kinda glad others confirm the lag/stuttering and its not just me.
For comparison, the phone I am replacing is a S5 running Exodus rom, there is absolutely zero lag or frames dropped in any scrolling or animations. It really makes the S6 look bad. Not what I expected as the S5 is like 18 months old now.
Here is a quick video I made for the non-believers out there. S6 is on the left. It doesn't matter that the video is not in focus (because of my finger getting in the way), the point I am trying to make is scrolling should be smooth on a new, expensive Android phone, I am astonished at how bad it is on the S6. Other places in the phone are also bad, Chrome is the worst though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKos5oFPyo
Keep in mind, however, if you do root you will most likely trip the knox counter on your device. This could cause some problems with warranty, and you would not be able to use Samsung pay on the device. If these things don't matter to you. Rooting is okay.
st0kes said:
Here is a quick video I made for the non-believers out there. S6 is on the left. It doesn't matter that the video is not in focus (because of my finger getting in the way), the point I am trying to make is scrolling should be smooth on a new, expensive Android phone, I am astonished at how bad it is on the S6. Other places in the phone are also bad, Chrome is the worst though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKos5oFPyo
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't access your video for some reason...
M..N said:
Keep in mind, however, if you do root you will most likely trip the knox counter on your device. This could cause some problems with warranty, and you would not be able to use Samsung pay on the device. If these things don't matter to you. Rooting is okay.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooting/flashing ROMs/kernels can be done without tripping knox by using the engineering bootloader. You'll find great tutorials here on xda.
My S6 has never lagged, not even on stock. I found it to be smooth in generally and I am someone who looks at framedrops and any other possible slowdowns.
Also guys don't forget to check your apps. It may sound weird but some well known apps causing some extra lag on top of what TouchWiz has. For example I found out that SwiftKey on my devices creates some extra lag and it's slower than other keyboards. Some apps are just not optimized well and this the reason some guys see worse lags and stutters than others. This one is tricky to determine those apps but you have to experiment. TouchWiz as it is now yes it's laggy but not worse than older TouchWin on S5 for example. Still needs work but Marshmallow is promising. Wait until then guys you may surprised pleasantly. Unfortunately some apps on Android running like sh***t and we blame the phone sometimes. And remember to always keep your phone at minimal. Disable all extra stuff you don't use and use only the apps you actually use often or truly need. This is for all phones not only for this one.
Fruktsallad said:
Can't access your video for some reason...
Rooting/flashing ROMs/kernels can be done without tripping knox by using the engineering bootloader. You'll find great tutorials here on xda.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If I understand correctly using the engineering bootloader results in the loss of use of the fingerprint scanner.
M..N said:
If I understand correctly using the engineering bootloader results in the loss of use of the fingerprint scanner.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct. So worth it imho though.
Hello everyone, recently i picked up mi 9t. What a phone...
I can say that i am more than satisfied with how phone performs and what i got for 300 bucks. I decided to make a short video review and give my opinions about it. I am decent user which means that i am usually using my phone to browse around the web, instagram, watch youtube and some movies. I would be more than happy if you can give me your opinions and if you have any question do not hesitate to ask me. Also, i will make some ROOT/TWRP/ROM review videos so support is more than appreciated. Have a great day everyone!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR8Bu48UZis&t=178s
Any thoughts?
Sent from my Mi 9T using Tapatalk
KiaTheKing said:
Any thoughts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I really think the Mi 9T is a great phone with the latest Urnyx Gcam without unlock the device. This phone takes beautiful night photos and using astrophotography setting compared to Miui's camera. It has been about 7 days that i own the Mi 9T. With certain reviews i have seen about how Miui's bloatware (and google) crippled the battery life can perform and by using this phone in real time. I think the phone can truly shine with custom rom or by using Miui EU Rom's. I have the 6GB version and this phone is running very smooth. Messenger can be hit or miss when answering, the front camera tends to not pop up at time. (So far 3-2 ratio of the camera popping up verus not) I jave not try gaming because i use my Mi Max 3 for that and also to keep the integrity of the Amoled display. As far as youtube goes, few videos take full potential of the whole display ratio and some not. When it does, the display is amazing.
That is my opinion about this phone. Tomm. i will be able to unlock and use the Xiami EU finally and can go further on what can this phone do.
For Xiomi.EU to work.. just format data and then enter "yes". If not force encryption will stay on and the phone will be rebooted back to TWRP Recovery. Also don't mount system when installing magisk.
Wmateria said:
I really think the Mi 9T is a great phone with the latest Urnyx Gcam without unlock the device. This phone takes beautiful night photos and using astrophotography setting compared to Miui's camera. It has been about 7 days that i own the Mi 9T. With certain reviews i have seen about how Miui's bloatware (and google) crippled the battery life can perform and by using this phone in real time. I think the phone can truly shine with custom rom or by using Miui EU Rom's. I have the 6GB version and this phone is running very smooth. Messenger can be hit or miss when answering, the front camera tends to not pop up at time. (So far 3-2 ratio of the camera popping up verus not) I jave not try gaming because i use my Mi Max 3 for that and also to keep the integrity of the Amoled display. As far as youtube goes, few videos take full potential of the whole display ratio and some not. When it does, the display is amazing.
That is my opinion about this phone. Tomm. i will be able to unlock and use the Xiami EU finally and can go further on what can this phone do.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, indeed.
I am also very curious how Roms are working and what can mods improve in terms of speed and battery. I cant say its not good but i think that this phone can do atleast a bit better in those terms. I applied for bootloader unlock 2 days ago, i will need to wait 5 more so i can unlock my phone and get my hands on rooting, installing twrp and so on. Ty for ur opinions.
Sent from my Mi 9T using Tapatalk
KiaTheKing said:
Yeah, indeed.
I am also very curious how Roms are working and what can mods improve in terms of speed and battery. I cant say its not good but i think that this phone can do atleast a bit better in those terms. I applied for bootloader unlock 2 days ago, i will need to wait 5 more so i can unlock my phone and get my hands on rooting, installing twrp and so on. Ty for ur opinions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well i am going to use Xiaomi.EU first. I don't like the custom roms only because the gestures have lines appearing at the bottom and the bottom sides of the screen. Can only make the side arrow gestures dissappear only, on that note, i swtich to Xiaomi.EU for full finger gesture w/o them white lines appearing.
I would recommened Extended Ui Rom if you want to go in that direction.
Wmateria said:
Well i am going to use Xiaomi.EU first. I don't like the custom roms only because the gestures have lines appearing at the bottom and the bottom sides of the screen. Can only make the side arrow gestures dissappear only, on that note, i swtich to Xiaomi.EU for full finger gesture w/o them white lines appearing.
I would recommened Extended Ui Rom if you want to go in that direction.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I would agree with your ROM choice from reading on XDA, but what about full screen gestures (I think it's called) in magisk modules? Doesn't that remove the lines at the bottom and make it MIUI like?
Windroid-user said:
Yes I would agree with your ROM choice from reading on XDA, but what about full screen gestures (I think it's called) in magisk modules? Doesn't that remove the lines at the bottom and make it MIUI like?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have not tried any magisk modules except for YouTube Vanced Black. I found the module, i guess i can try it out once i switch to a custom Rom.
Yes, the full screen gesture works.
Can confirm i really prefer the device.
Owned couple of flagships like the oneplus 6, but i like the mi 9t a lot more. The full screen is amazing and everything just works and is fast enough... Even the battery outperforms every device i owned. The phone is a bit on the thicc side... But that isn't a bad thing.
For the price, you get more for the money.
I had one screen failure, that resulted in sending it back and received a new one after the same weekend. Suffered from "ghost touches" in the area where the statusbar sits... After a couple of days it resulted in screen failure considering the top area unusable. Now i got the new one running no problems, even the fingerprint is faster.
I have been rooting around, runned HavocOS 2.9. i really liked the rom but i preferred stock due to slightly less battery drain. The downside of rooting this device is that there is a lot of stuff scattered around xda and the rest of Internet with not the best description about for which version its made for (redmi or mi 9t) or what it modifies or does... Which resulted in flashing a stock rom that made my phone think it was a Redmi K20 instead of a Mi 9T... It did boot tho.
Now i don't do much anymore with toying and flashing around like i used to. i just use audio enhancements, certain themes and adblockers. I mainly use the phone for whatsapp, youtube, android auto and music.
its the peanut said:
Can confirm i really prefer the device.
Owned couple of flagships like the oneplus 6, but i like the mi 9t a lot more. The full screen is amazing and everything just works and is fast enough... Even the battery outperforms every device i owned. The phone is a bit on the thicc side... But that isn't a bad thing.
For the price, you get more for the money.
I had one screen failure, that resulted in sending it back and received a new one after the same weekend. Suffered from "ghost touches" in the area where the statusbar sits... After a couple of days it resulted in screen failure considering the top area unusable. Now i got the new one running no problems, even the fingerprint is faster.
I have been rooting around, runned HavocOS 2.9. i really liked the rom but i preferred stock due to slightly less battery drain. The downside of rooting this device is that there is a lot of stuff scattered around xda and the rest of Internet with not the best description about for which version its made for (redmi or mi 9t) or what it modifies or does... Which resulted in flashing a stock rom that made my phone think it was a Redmi K20 instead of a Mi 9T... It did boot tho.
Now i don't do much anymore with toying and flashing around like i used to. i just use audio enhancements, certain themes and adblockers. I mainly use the phone for whatsapp, youtube, android auto and music.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
After I saw notch of OnePlus 6 I understood :laugh:
Thought it was tear drop notch but more like iPhone, but still.... Pretty impressed to hear that!
Looks like good customer service too, I haven't even unlocked it, it's fine for me and will personalise more when I unlock it like to icon, nothing too major cause like you I prefer stock. Better battery life is all it take for me, if the ROM is not a trash experience of course.
For me it was manageable to navigate through the threads and see what's up.
Oh and also about the description I believe it is meant to run on both, and Dev decides it to be named K20 or Mi 9T depending on their device... I'm pretty sure if you asked them to change to your device's model name they would be more than happy to help out.
Windroid-user said:
After I saw notch of OnePlus 6 I understood :laugh:
Thought it was tear drop notch but more like iPhone, but still.... Pretty impressed to hear that!
Looks like good customer service too, I haven't even unlocked it, it's fine for me and will personalise more when I unlock it like to icon, nothing too major cause like you I prefer stock. Better battery life is all it take for me, if the ROM is not a trash experience of course.
For me it was manageable to navigate through the threads and see what's up.
Oh and also about the description I believe it is meant to run on both, and Dev decides it to be named K20 or Mi 9T depending on their device... I'm pretty sure if you asked them to change to your device's model name they would be more than happy to help out.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The notch on the oneplus 6 was not even that bad, i liked that phone but battery life was not good enough, and i go to a lot of festivals so battery is important, and sound recording quality which also sucked.
The Mi 9T on the other hand succeeded in everything i want on a phone. Android auto works, music is good, wireless audio also, battery is very good, recording quality in both sound and video is good enough (seems cheaper devices can record more bass ).
I am not going to bother with the devs, staying stock with a few magisk mods which is enough
Btw for people trying to flash stuff on this phone, make sure to read on about encryption because it can screw you over when flashing goes wrong. And maybe use a USB OTG (or something similar) so when you soft brick your device you can still flash stuff in that way... If you're usb drive isn't encrypted
By the specs one might think that this is a great phone. Actually its the worst xiaomi phone i ever had (and i had a few). I am really disappointed by it, mainly because of the software. Many people have issues with battery drain. Mine is randomly crashing, no idea why. Sometimes it suddenly drains the battery completely within 1 hour, randomly, without any announcement. My girlfriend told me once that she tried to phone me but it woas not possible. I did not believe her first. I had no notifications about missed calls. A few weeks later i got a SMS from my mailbox service - 13 people failed to phone me.
It could be a great phone but you cannot rely on it. So it's basically useless.
leboef said:
By the specs one might think that this is a great phone. Actually its the worst xiaomi phone i ever had (and i had a few). I am really disappointed by it, mainly because of the software. Many people have issues with battery drain. Mine is randomly crashing, no idea why. Sometimes it suddenly drains the battery completely within 1 hour, randomly, without any announcement. My girlfriend told me once that she tried to phone me but it woas not possible. I did not believe her first. I had no notifications about missed calls. A few weeks later i got a SMS from my mailbox service - 13 people failed to phone me.
It could be a great phone but you cannot rely on it. So it's basically useless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't know if you are on stock software... But maybe try to reset or re-flash its stock firmware those problems can go away. I have no battery drain, no problems with calls either, maybe you got a faulty device like i did.
I have no problems with my device, besides returning it for screen failure once and it got replaced within a few days.
leboef said:
By the specs one might think that this is a great phone. Actually its the worst xiaomi phone i ever had (and i had a few). I am really disappointed by it, mainly because of the software. Many people have issues with battery drain. Mine is randomly crashing, no idea why. Sometimes it suddenly drains the battery completely within 1 hour, randomly, without any announcement. My girlfriend told me once that she tried to phone me but it woas not possible. I did not believe her first. I had no notifications about missed calls. A few weeks later i got a SMS from my mailbox service - 13 people failed to phone me.
It could be a great phone but you cannot rely on it. So it's basically useless.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree, i actually miss my Note 5 Pro (6 GB version). The camera on the Mi9t has GREAT specs but it don't take too much better pics than the Note 5 (both without GCAM). Not to mention that most cameras are useless, only 2x zoom is not good enough and the other cameras are too much of a low resolution that make the pics even worse (so the cams are useless). The popup camera sound as a dream, but it isn't. It already gave problems to me (and many others) and the ONLY fix is to re flash the persist partition, where we lose DRM for Netflix. The popup also make the phone too heavy and thick for my taste. MIUI actually run smoother on the Note 5 than on the Mi9t, the community also is bigger still on the Note 5 so we have MUCH more ROMs and mods... This device has still buggy TWRP on backup and restore plus decryption error on TWRP. The amoled screen also has terrible color calibration. Oh and the fingerprint sensor is the WORSE i ever had
I'm not too happy with it. One thing i learned with the mi9t is to NEVER buy a smartphone with moving parts, either popup cameras or folding phone. It is asking for middle term problems.
---------- Post added at 15:38 ---------- Previous post was at 15:35 ----------
its the peanut said:
I have no problems with my device, besides returning it for screen failure once and it got replaced within a few days.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That isn't a small problem, though.
Also about flashing, i see many people who brick the device for no reason
Well, had it for 2 months and sold it, and got a used Mi8 instead. I couldn't stand fingerprint scanner which is really not so good, and battery life was ok but not good enough for a 4000mAh capacity. Even with debloating, dark mode etc. there was always some drainage. Mi8 is a lot more optimized in my opinion.
Recently I dropped my Mi8 and broke the screen, and decided to skip Xiaomi for the time being due to Miui 11, which looks nice but it's animations are overkill, and they are really annoying.
Got Huawei Nova 5t instead (although I hate Huawei), but it's the one of very few devices that still has physical fps scanner, and can easily get up to 10 hrs of sot.
mejgs said:
Well, had it for 2 months and sold it, and got a used Mi8 instead. I couldn't stand fingerprint scanner which is really not so good, and battery life was ok but not good enough for a 4000mAh capacity. Even with debloating, dark mode etc. there was always some drainage. Mi8 is a lot more optimized in my opinion.
Recently I dropped my Mi8 and broke the screen, and decided to skip Xiaomi for the time being due to Miui 11, which looks nice but it's animations are overkill, and they are really annoying.
Got Huawei Nova 5t instead (although I hate Huawei), but it's the one of very few devices that still has physical fps scanner, and can easily get up to 10 hrs of sot.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
After the Mi9t (that i don't plan to keep for long) i think i'll go with a 1+
Pupet_Master said:
After the Mi9t (that i don't plan to keep for long) i think i'll go with a 1+
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good choice. Sadly, perfect device doesn't exist. I would prefer Samsung with snapdragon (in my opinion OneUI is the best skin right now), but they are too expensive. I've been checking out the new S10 Lite, seems good, probably fps sensor is cr*p as in all Sammy phones, but who knows...
The only two downsides I can think of is camera crashing in pro mode and screen which got scratched with a fingernail
What can I say about this device is that I have some mixed feelings about it... The phone it's amazingly fast, I can do anything in a few seconds, but I have a big drain on the battery... I tried every ROM possible, any battery tips, nothing seems to help me, I can barely get 4h SOT with mi band 4 constantly connected, wifi/mobile data always on, location on... Other people are getting 7-8h SOT and I can't get more than 4h SOT... I'm somehow disappointed at this chapter but I really enjoy the smoothness of this phone, the amazing photos taken by the gcam, and the support of the community. Overall it's a great phone but a great downside it's the battery life if you put the phone at work
robi10101298 said:
What can I say about this device is that I have some mixed feelings about it... The phone it's amazingly fast, I can do anything in a few seconds, but I have a big drain on the battery... I tried every ROM possible, any battery tips, nothing seems to help me, I can barely get 4h SOT with mi band 4 constantly connected, wifi/mobile data always on, location on... Other people are getting 7-8h SOT and I can't get more than 4h SOT... I'm somehow disappointed at this chapter but I really enjoy the smoothness of this phone, the amazing photos taken by the gcam, and the support of the community. Overall it's a great phone but a great downside it's the battery life if you put the phone at work
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's MIUI 11 Android 10 biggest weakness... more battery drain...
Micdu70 said:
That's MIUI 11 Android 10 biggest weakness... more battery drain...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, unfortunately yes, and they're not doing something about this... ?