Nexus 6P to Essential PH-1....is the camera better on the PH-1? - Essential Phone Questions & Answers

Hello XDA (it's been awhile)
While I've been INCREDIBLY happy with my rooted Nexus 6P, it's battery capacity has faded (61% degradation) and with the PH-1 now going for $280 I find my track pad hovering above the "add to cart" on amazon but I haven't yet....partially because I want to hold out until a Pixel 3XL
Using 'Camer NX' has given me a modded version of the Google camera and has taken stunning pictures, the only fear I have is that the camera in the PH-1 is a step below what I'm currently using can anyone put my fears to ease about that?
Thanks in advance!

USFguy said:
Hello XDA (it's been awhile)
While I've been INCREDIBLY happy with my rooted Nexus 6P, it's battery capacity has faded (61% degradation) and with the PH-1 now going for $280 I find my track pad hovering above the "add to cart" on amazon but I haven't yet....partially because I want to hold out until a Pixel 3XL
Using 'Camer NX' has given me a modded version of the Google camera and has taken stunning pictures, the only fear I have is that the camera in the PH-1 is a step below what I'm currently using can anyone put my fears to ease about that?
Thanks in advance!
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Hold out for the pixel 3. The camera on ph1 is average. And most of us use the Gmod cam for better pictures.

USFguy said:
Hello XDA (it's been awhile)
While I've been INCREDIBLY happy with my rooted Nexus 6P, it's battery capacity has faded (61% degradation) and with the PH-1 now going for $280 I find my track pad hovering above the "add to cart" on amazon but I haven't yet....partially because I want to hold out until a Pixel 3XL
Using 'Camer NX' has given me a modded version of the Google camera and has taken stunning pictures, the only fear I have is that the camera in the PH-1 is a step below what I'm currently using can anyone put my fears to ease about that?
Thanks in advance!
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The phone is a great phone and right now you can get the gray on Amazon for under $300. It's a no brain upgrade the 6P.

ceelos218 said:
Hold out for the pixel 3. The camera on ph1 is average. And most of us use the Gmod cam for better pictures.
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I'm also considering grabbing the PH-1 now...and seeing what the Pixel 3 looks like around the holidays....and then gifting the PH-1
tech_head said:
The phone is a great phone and right now you can get the gray on Amazon for under $300. It's a no brain upgrade the 6P.
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That's the temptation that's sitting before me.....I just don't want to take too much of a step back in camera quality

Just order the ph-1 from my aging nexus 6(replaced the stock battery a few mo this ago... Cant wait for it to arrive Tuesday at 280 usd its a no Brainerd.
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I just ordered an Essential Phone today ($223 on Amazon.com!!) and am coming from a 6P right now as well (early shutdown at 15-20%). I'm not looking forward to a degradation in camera quality, but the 6P is unbearably slow after 2 years, so it's time for an upgrade.
The harder decision seems to be finding a decent case/screen protector.

USFguy said:
Hello XDA (it's been awhile)
Using 'Camer NX' has given me a modded version of the Google camera and has taken stunning pictures, the only fear I have is that the camera in the PH-1 is a step below what I'm currently using can anyone put my fears to ease about that?
Thanks in advance!
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I've never used a 6P so I can't speak to a comparison but: using GCam (I'm currently running Toylan's, there's a thread with settings) this camera has achieved good enough status. The stock cam in mono is good too. Are there better? Yes of course, but the price difference outweighs camera improvements IMO.

Depends what you're doing and what you expect.
I find the PH1 stock app on par with the 6P (and even the PXL except in poor conditions). The app is significantly improved, you can always use a gcam port, and it's a great phone that rivals the PXL2 (I've had all of these phones and a number of others in the same lifespan as your 6P)

kboya said:
Depends what you're doing and what you expect.
I find the PH1 stock app on par with the 6P (and even the PXL except in poor conditions). The app is significantly improved, you can always use a gcam port, and it's a great phone that rivals the PXL2 (I've had all of these phones and a number of others in the same lifespan as your 6P)
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Rivals the pixel 2 in photo quality?? LOL I really hope that isn't what you mean.
That is about the most bs I've ever heard.

Nope, it's a great phone that rivals the PXL2.

kboya said:
Nope, it's a great phone that rivals the PXL2.
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Aside from the touchscreen sensitivity, jitter, reception and camera, I would agree. Build quality wise it is way better imo. I moved to a pixel 2 recently, and aside from those things (and amoled screen, I did miss these blacks), I would say it was on par otherwise. It is a good phone, and for the price, a real steal.
It had a few showstoppers for me and getting a pixel 2 for free sealed the deal, otherwise I would have kept it for a long time. I still had to debate which to keep honestly.

Seen many youtube videos saying the cam is much improved in 9.0...also called amazon and they match the difference of 56 dollars on my ph-1 [emoji123]... The camera isn't the reason I'm getting the phone... Community support and 3 years of software updates from the company... It's the only other device besides the pixel line to be running 9.0 on day 1. The ph-one is now 335 on amazon [emoji16].
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crixley said:
Aside from the touchscreen sensitivity, jitter, reception and camera, I would agree. Build quality wise it is way better imo. I moved to a pixel 2 recently, and aside from those things (and amoled screen, I did miss these blacks), I would say it was on par otherwise. It is a good phone, and for the price, a real steal.
It had a few showstoppers for me and getting a pixel 2 for free sealed the deal, otherwise I would have kept it for a long time. I still had to debate which to keep honestly.
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I slept on it overnight...and the price dropped even FARTHER to $224 but now is back up to $335 :crying:

Arnovas 8.2 Google camera pixel2 mod... Turns avg camera to above average... For the price, this phone is an easy sell

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(Video) Speed/RAM comparison against Nexus 6p

I made video on how the Pixel XL compares against the Nexus 6p in terms of speed and multi-tasking. From what I see so far, the Pixel is much faster overall, but the Nexus 6p still puts up a good fight!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dolIFwuKPu0
Yep! Loving my Nexus 6p especially with preview 7.1.1. I as the phone really flies with better battery manager and now better camera shutter response thanks to updated Google camera all.
I returned Pixel XL as the changes were incremental and not worth the price IMHO.
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markwebb said:
Yep! Loving my Nexus 6p especially with preview 7.1.1. I as the phone really flies with better battery manager and now better camera shutter response thanks to updated Google camera all.
I returned Pixel XL as the changes were incremental and not worth the price IMHO.
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Yeah, the price was really tough to swallow for me. However, when you eat, sleep, and breath phones, like I do... you gotta dish it out. I actually would not recommend to most people that people upgrade from a 6p.
Nexus 6p is a great device but pixel beat it, which wasn't surprising. But the pixel looks better in every way. I'm happy with my purchase.
gregk232 said:
Yeah, the price was really tough to swallow for me. However, when you eat, sleep, and breath phones, like I do... you gotta dish it out. I actually would not recommend to most people that people upgrade from a 6p.
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Dam addictions !!!!????

Anyone Else Switching from Pixel to OP5?

I'm scheduled to get my new OP5 on Friday, 6/23. I'm very excited. I'm itching to get a new phone and hope it is better than my Pixel XL.
Anyone else in the same shoes? Any concerns?
For me is the camera. I can care less about the video issues but I do need a solid camera.
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I didnt switch per se, i still have my Pixel and plan to keep it as my main Android device, but the OP5 been really solid for me so im almost at the point of switching it over to being my main. This is from someone that hated OP2, 3 and 3T. This phone is pretty damn good!
serialtoon said:
I didnt switch per se, i still have my Pixel and plan to keep it as my main Android device, but the OP5 been really solid for me so im almost at the point of switching it over to being my main. This is from someone that hated OP2, 3 and 3T. This phone is pretty damn good!
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This is great news!
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Same, I'm not switching but I'm going to try it as my daily driver for a couple weeks and see how much I like it. I'm hoping it's the phone that breaks me away from my Pixel XL, the LG G6 and the S8/S8+ couldn't do it. I love my Pixel but should have known better than to get the 32gb model. Hopefully I'll love the OP5 as much!
I have an XL - interesting to see so many of us here.
My biggest concern is downgrading to 1080p. Luckily my contact lenses make my near sightedness slightly less sharp, so hopefully I don't notice the difference. I pretty much guarantee the camera is not going to touch the Pixel. Maybe get close in very bright conditions in terms of detail, but probably not HDR or low light. It also sucks that there's no 4K video stabilization. I expect the OP5 to perform even better than the Pixel does as far as using the phone goes, and it'll be nice to have capacitive keys to get some more screen real estate and not have to worry about burn in as much. Dash charge is also amazing. I'll be pissed if they don't crank out Android O in a hurry though.
serialtoon said:
I didnt switch per se, i still have my Pixel and plan to keep it as my main Android device, but the OP5 been really solid for me so im almost at the point of switching it over to being my main. This is from someone that hated OP2, 3 and 3T. This phone is pretty damn good!
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Why did you hate the 3 and the 3t?
I do love my Pixel XL too. Yup, S8 did not cut it for me. After 7 days, I returned my S8.
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I have a Pixel XL too thinking of picking a 5 up loved my OP3. OP5 seems an upgrade in every area :good:
Been playing with the OP5 for a few hours. It's a tough call. The display on the Pixel XL is noticeably better in terms of sharpness. The camera on the Pixel is somewhat better too - not dramatically if you use the correct modes on the OP5, plus the OP5 has the zoom lens and portrait mode. UI fluidity is actually a bit better on the Pixel, but it's a splitting hair's difference. The OP5 might need some more RAM management optimization, because it wasn't keeping every single app in memory like I expected it to - performed about as well as the Pixel did when swapping between apps (not games) on the phone. Dash charge is something to love though, as are the built-in OS features, and the insanely fast fingerprint reader.
Only real issue I'm having is the display seems poorly tuned. My eyes are noticing a jello/wave effect when scrolling icons and text whereas my S8+, Pixel XL, and every other device I've used recently have not done that.
Overall feels more like a sidegrade than anything.
Nitemare3219 said:
Been playing with the OP5 for a few hours. It's a tough call. The display on the Pixel XL is noticeably better in terms of sharpness. The camera on the Pixel is somewhat better too - not dramatically if you use the correct modes on the OP5, plus the OP5 has the zoom lens and portrait mode. UI fluidity is actually a bit better on the Pixel, but it's a splitting hair's difference. The OP5 might need some more RAM management optimization, because it wasn't keeping every single app in memory like I expected it to - performed about as well as the Pixel did when swapping between apps (not games) on the phone. Dash charge is something to love though, as are the built-in OS features, and the insanely fast fingerprint reader.
Only real issue I'm having is the display seems poorly tuned. My eyes are noticing a jello/wave effect when scrolling icons and text whereas my S8+, Pixel XL, and every other device I've used recently have not done that.
Overall feels more like a sidegrade than anything.
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Thanks for the excellent comments. Software optimizations may take a few updates. I guess we all have 15 days to return the OP5 so tough decisions ahead. ?
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martinezma99 said:
Thanks for the excellent comments. Software optimizations may take a few updates. I guess we all have 15 days to return the OP5 so tough decisions ahead. ?
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Returning it isn't ideal - 15% restocking fee. If I don't end up keeping it, I'll just resell it. I really want to like this phone, but the biggest complaint I'm having right now is the damn screen scrolling. I haven't seen anyone else complain about this, so either I'm hyper-sensitive to it, or something is up with mine.
Nitemare3219 said:
Returning it isn't ideal - 15% restocking fee. If I don't end up keeping it, I'll just resell it. I really want to like this phone, but the biggest complaint I'm having right now is the damn screen scrolling. I haven't seen anyone else complain about this, so either I'm hyper-sensitive to it, or something is up with mine.
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There is no 15% restocking fee if you ordered though One Plus. You only pay for shipping if done within 15 days.
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martinezma99 said:
There is no 15% restocking fee if you ordered though One Plus. You only pay for shipping if done within 15 days.
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Are you sure? There's one page that mentions a full refund, and another that mentions partial refunds at 85%.
Nitemare3219 said:
Are you sure? There's one page that mentions a full refund, and another that mentions partial refunds at 85%.
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There is not even shipping fee...I returned OnePlus 3 and 3T at no cost..they provide the shipping label and 100% return as well...
It's the 835 which is the big improvement on the OP5 over the pixel. The rest of the hardware (screen, camera etc) are going to be better on the Pixel. You'll also have up to date android on the pixel for a couple years at least. OP forget about their old phones pretty quickly.
I wouldn't upgrade a pixel to a OP5. In fact if they were the same price I would have bought a Pixel.
martinezma99 said:
I do love my Pixel XL too. Yup, S8 did not cut it for me. After 7 days, I returned my S8.
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Could you explain why you returned?
aygul12345 said:
Could you explain why you returned?
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At the end of the day, I preferred my Pixel over S8. The curved screen was annoying to me and so was fingerprint scanner placement. I also prefer stock Android over TouchWiz. Pixel is hands down a smoother experience.
Again, all preference. Nothing really wrong with S8.
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I have switched from HTC 10. I didn't like the camera on HTC 10. However it is better than OnePlus 5. Didn't notice any performance difference as compare to HTC 10. I am missing Audio capabilities of HTC 10. I would like to take my statement back, after oxygen 4.5.2 update, phone is running really smoothly. I would say it is crazy fast.. Super duper fast far better than HTC 10. Truly amazing.
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Anyone else on the fence?
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Who is satisfied with the Oneplus 5 ?

in regard to the "Who is returning their OnePlus 5?" thread. lets try it the other way around
Who is keeping their Op5 and why ?
Hastaloego said:
in regard to the "Who is returning their OnePlus 5?" thread. lets try it the other way around
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with this much bugs , specially in very basic aspects of the phone , even i am not , and i didn't buy the phone yet ...
I'm very happy coming from Pixel XL.
Hastaloego said:
in regard to the "Who is returning their OnePlus 5?" thread. lets try it the other way around
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xD. You cracked me up dude. But I won't return it. And if a better phones comes I can just sell it with the same price. I've done that with the Oneplus 2 and Oneplus 3t.
fracman said:
I'm very happy coming from Pixel XL.
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What's wrong with Pixel XL?
ram4ufriends said:
What's wrong with Pixel XL?
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Overpriced and design is horrible. Bezels killed the phone. Got the op5. Performance on par. Do t care about camera. As far as looks and feels. Op5 hands down better. Pixel was $1000 plus for.me on launch. Op5 $500 and change and couldn't be happier.
I'm still on the fence whether to stick with Pixel XL or OP5. Camera is a big deal for me. I have kids and take lots of pictures.
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martinezma99 said:
I'm still on the fence whether to stick with Pixel XL or OP5. Camera is a big deal for me. I have kids and take lots of pictures.
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OIS wont help you with with moving targets, but improved EIS from patch to patch might.
I'm satisfied. Love it
I'm in love with this phone. I have the 8Gb version and it's so damn snappy. I'm new to oxygen os, but love all the features available, even without root (although I'm rooted). My favorite thing about the phone is how easy it was to root and of course the awesome battery life. First phone ever that I've not had to charge every day.
Very nice
I'm quite satisfied. I keep trying to find the stuff that seems to drive a lot of you crazy but I can't replicate it with my own device. Came from a OnePlus 3 which I almost regretted handing down as I really came to like it.
If I can get the hang of this camera pro mode thing I think I'll be satisfied for the rest of the year.
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I'm still on the fence whether to stick with Pixel XL or OP5. Camera is a big deal for me. I have kids and take lots of pictures.
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Then by all means stick with the Pixel XL. I have the OP3T and love its camera for shooting everything EXCEPT moving objetcs. Seems like the OP5 is no different. Uses shutter speed of 1/17 for most moving subjetcs.
It's awesome
fracman said:
I'm very happy coming from Pixel XL.
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I currently have an XL and ordered the 5 just today. Is there anything you miss from the XL? Or are you fully happy moving to the 5?
fracman said:
Overpriced and design is horrible. Bezels killed the phone. Got the op5. Performance on par. Do t care about camera. As far as looks and feels. Op5 hands down better. Pixel was $1000 plus for.me on launch. Op5 $500 and change and couldn't be happier.
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Is OnePlus 5 really as smooth as Pixel?
ram4ufriends said:
Is OnePlus 5 really as smooth as Pixel?
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If you slap the same software on them (say LineageOS) as to eliminate any results manipulation due to software optimization, the OnePlus 5 should be faster and smoother due to the better specs.
All in all, I believe it's a great phone. But I don't have it yet, so I'm speaking just from research.
If you want the latest specs at a good price and great development support, the OnePlus 5 may be the best choice.
Don't care about OIS or EIS, nor about waterproofing (OnePlus did say it is somewhat water proof) since I'm not planning on bathing with the phone.
It all comes down what you're looking in a phone.
Coming from a Nexus 6, it's definitely an upgrade. Overall very satisfied.
The only things I'm disappointed about are the lack of wireless charging and the speaker placement. I've been spoiled by the N6's dual front speakers. Now I have to use headphones while playing rhythm games because otherwise my hand keeps blocking the speaker.
yaarnamiley said:
Very nice
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Why are you just spamming these threads? Is it to get your post count up so it doesn't look suspicious when you spam your referral link? You've replied to a dozen threads here just saying "very nice" or "solid".
ReyTheBoss said:
with this much bugs , specially in very basic aspects of the phone , even i am not , and i didn't buy the phone yet ...
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Which bugs?

Returned my Pixel 2 for this phone, am i crazy?

I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
mackentosh said:
I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.
DanDroidOS said:
I have the the Pixel 2 and the PH-1 right now for that reason, I have been bugging Andy Rubin and Essential on Twitter to update to 8.0. When the PH-1 gets 8.0 it will be the best device out in my opinion.
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Your not crazy.
Honestly, the camera just stinks. Its gonna take Essential to really work on firmware and software to solve it. Yes, you can use the Google Camera Mod/Port, but that comes with its own set of headaches and it not perfect.
I would like Oreo and them to really show us they can take the LG G6 camera hardware and make them work like the LG G6 cameras.
If they can do that, I think it will show the industry that they mean business. If they just let it slide till Essential Phone 2, and don't show that they can deliver software and firmware, it will really show just how shallow and normal their company really is. Meaning, oh well... let them just buy our new one because its better for our bottom line.
I am REALLY in hopes that they want to prove and show that they are above the other trolling companies that just shovel out new devices. That would set them apart from the pack of the massive flood of phones by a sea of Android OEM's.
Show us your better than the norm Essential.
mackentosh said:
I returned my Pixel 2 for the essential phone specially for that $499 price tag and to my surprise I don't miss the pixel 2. The only thing I miss is 8.0 but I have faith that 8.0 is coming to this phone soon. For those of you who haven't played with 8.0 yet trust me... It's nice!
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This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp
LordLugard said:
This is going to sting a bit.
Price just dropped further down to $449 at BestBuy.
http://bit.ly/2y4iQfp
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The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now
mackentosh said:
The Pixel 2 prices should've been lower, after having the phone for 8 days I realised that it's not worth 8 and $900+. No wireless charging, no head phone jack and the build quality is sub par. The squeeze feature is useless and you can't remap it. 8.0 is the only thing that sets the pixel apart for now
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Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.
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Pixel 2 128gb is only $750. And you can remap the squeeze function easily with Flar2's button remapper and a simple ADB command.
Also, I can't agree with you about 8.0 being the only thing that sets it apart as the camera is arguably the best on the market right now.
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Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.
spotmark said:
Yeah, but the 2 is ugly with those huge bezels, and the way too expensive 2 XL is looking too buggy.
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Well, true those bezels kinda suck. The 2 XL just had screen quality issues. I returned mine.
Ok cool I'm glad I'm not the only who made the switch
I hardly ever take pictures, so the pixel 2 has nothing I want.
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Its not easy to justify the price of the pixel but you do get a few things the essential phone doesnt have: IP67, stereo speakers, much faster updates, and an incredible camera. Is it worth it? Idk
I have my ph-1 coming today. I'm rocking a pixel 2 XL 128. I wouldn't even consider the smaller pixel for the dinky screen so I think the bigger pixel is more comparable. These 2 phones, both at 128gb are $529 difference out the door. Camera , waterproofing and speakers are advantages over the ph-1. I just don't think it's worth over five hundred bucks. Plus the screen is not the highest quality and I haven't heard anyone say this but the pixel fingerprint sensor is not the best. If you have the slightest moisture on your finger ,even sweat, it won't register. I just feel like at a grand, a phone better be near perfect. The only deal breaker to me would be if the ph-1 has connectivity issues. I'm also really into a smoother software experience which is unmatched by the pixel line it sounds. I DO kind of like the underdog company who seems willing to listen and try to make consistent updates to improve things. I think I'll be content knowing tthat those updates are coming and it gives you hope and something to look forward to... especially Oreo. Looking at that beautiful screen while waiting may very well be worth it!

Upgrade P2XL to P5....Pointless?

Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
Since our security updates will end this month, I plan to upgrade for those and take advantage of the strong T-Mobile 5G signal in my area.
amandeepparmar said:
Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
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My thoughts?
If you only now just saw the specs you haven't been following the news. You likely also do not understand why Google didn't go with the 865/865+ in the two devices.
For me, it boils down to which features I consider more important. Right now I'm leaning towards the P5 simply because of the aluminum body, but the 4A 5G and its headphone jack is compelling. I think in the end, it's going to boil down to "do I want to pay the extra $200 or not?"
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Coming from the 2XL... The 5 is an upgrade. As far as the ppi... https://www.androidauthority.com/chasing-pixels-810926/ this article from AA is very good and I'm sure I won't notice it much. But I am going to wait for reviews and actually see it side by side
In case you missed topjohnwu's tweets:
https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1311370798267990016
Ive never been one of the sheeple, the people who buy into aspirational technology (people who aspire to own somehting because its new and everyone else has one), so its not even a decision for me. Im a fucntional user, if a device performs the functions i need it to, im happy. The only reason i ever upgrade devices is when one is dead, or very much close to being....
I do not get the "new device every 6 months" buyers...i just dont, i think thats insanity
Personally i look at the lines of sheeple at Apple Stores on every release and weep for humanity, and the planet which gets raped to bring people ovepriced (thanks to Apple - they are the root of all evil, not least because they overprice their products, thereby forcing everyone in the market to follow suit, because to do anythign less is to be seen as inferior, so blame Apple, i do, asshat comapny) devices they dont really need
Pretty much the forumula is: new phone = new camera that takes pictures of an even more distant galaxy, hmm very useful in every day life
Some people in some countries have way too much spare money if theyre buying new phones all the time
Im sticking with what works for me, not a corporations bottom line, thanks
Also this:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4a-5g-pixel-5-great-value-in-us/
I loved the Pixel 5. I think Google made a small decision to stick with full hd resolution simply because you don't notice as such if the panel is good. It's easy on the battery. It will be easy on the chipset and provide consistent performance.
Pixel 5 does not lack anything as such. The only thing i was a bit disappointed was ufs 2.1 storage. Other than that I'm loving the Pixel 5. I'll get it maybe this Christmas or so!
The more I think about it, the more the 4a5g is looking like the better deal. Only differences between it and the five are two less gigabytes of RAM, no 90hz refresh, and a smaller battery, but the battery is still bigger than the 2xl, so battery life should still be an improvement. I've not yet owned a phone that had a 90hz refresh rate, so that's not really a huge deal to me yet.
The big draw toward the 4a5g for me personally is that the screen is bigger, which would make it feel like more of an upgrade compared to the 2XL.
The materials used are also different, but I've never really been a huge fan of glass backs. Plastic was always all right with me, so the 4a5g won't bother me in that regard. It supposedly feels pretty good in the hand even though its materials are "lesser than” the materials used for the 5 back.
Forgot about wireless charging too, but personally I've never owned a phone that had wireless charging, so again, not a big deal for me yet.
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sharkie405 said:
The more I think about it, the more the 4a5g is looking like the better deal. Only differences between it and the five are two less gigabytes of RAM, no 90hz refresh, and a smaller battery, but the battery is still bigger than the 2xl, so battery life should still be an improvement. I've not yet owned a phone that had a 90hz refresh rate, so that's not really a huge deal to me yet.
The big draw toward the 4a5g for me personally is that the screen is bigger, which would make it feel like more of an upgrade compared to the 2XL.
The materials used are also different, but I've never really been a huge fan of glass backs. Plastic was always all right with me, so the 4a5g won't bother me in that regard. It supposedly feels pretty good in the hand even though its materials are "lesser than” the materials used for the 5 back.
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I second your thoughts here. 4a5 is certainly a better handset and not much hard hitting on the pocket too!
So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
ZombieUsr said:
So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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I kind of agree with you here, except that I am seriously looking at going the OnePlus 8T route.
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ZombieUsr said:
So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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I kind of agree with you here, except that I am seriously looking at going the OnePlus 8T route.
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I am changing my mind to OnePlus 8 Pro too, I can go to swappa.com and get for less price than P5 with taxes. I am seriously considering going back to iPhone. Google has been using the same camera sensor hardware since the Pixel 2 came out. That means if Google ported the sofware algorithms to the Pixel 2 it would take pictures the same if not damn close to being the same.
after being a 4 year pixel 2 xl owner... the pixel 5 feels like a natural successor. Jut my opinion though
i currently use a pixel 3 because i prefer the size but im pretty much done with the pixel series. the cost is far too high and the features are less and less. the 4 had no fingerprint reader..... so i was thinking of getting a Zenfone 7. great size, great amount of ram........ EXPANDABLE STORAGE!!! but after seeing the OnePlus Nord N10, i might change my mind. ill have to see after the first reviews but it has what i want/need in a phone. google is just too obsessed with trying to either win the apple crowd, or become like apple.
maybe if they ever add features like expandable storage ill buy another pixel but the odds of that happening are not good. knowing google, theyll probably give up on the pixel line after the pixel 7 so i plan on holding on to my Panda Pixel indefinitely.
Okay i changed my decision probably.
I don't think i'll be getting Pixel 5 solely because of outdated hardware. Only if they had upgraded the camera sensors i'd have gone for it. The current sensor is at the end of its life.
I can't decide if I want to get a OP8T, OP8 Pro, or Pixel 5.
I prefer the flat screen of the 5 and 8t, the rear fingerprint sensor on the 5, and the telephoto on the 8 pro.
Get rid of P2-XL?
amandeepparmar said:
Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
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Depends on your battery. After October, no more OTA's from Google.
If your battery is good, between updates from Google Play Store and LineageOS, I think the phone
would be plenty secure. I plan to keep using mine for awhile. running LineageOS
YoshiFan501 said:
I can't decide if I want to get a OP8T, OP8 Pro, or Pixel 5.
I prefer the flat screen of the 5 and 8t, the rear fingerprint sensor on the 5, and the telephoto on the 8 pro.
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lol Flat screen is such a bliss. My next phone will be a flat screen. I am tired of this curved look and miss touches due to the curve
I went from. The p2xl to the 5, it's definitely an upgrade for me. I love how smooth it feels with the extra ram and 90hs screen, the SD765g has no trouble giving me a great experience on the couple games I do play, (pubg and genshin impact) the battery life for me is about double what the 2xl was and I'm happy to know I'll be getting monthly security updates for the next three years. There are still a couple things I don't like. The top behind the screen speaker is just so-so, far inferior to the 2xl's stereo front firing speakers. However I don't watch or listen to much without headphones or a bt speaker anyways and it does fine for calls. they removed a feature I did actually like.. active edge, I miss sweezing to activate assistant rather than saying hey Google or swiping the corner but still not really a deal breaker for me just so thing to get used to.
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