Hello,
It's been a long time since I rooted a device.So please be patient.
I want to root the tablet because I need open vpn connectivity and I don't need a custom ROM because I am mainly using it as a media consumption device.
Does rooting automatically mean flashing a custom recovery(CWM) Is it possible to root without flashing one(I feel stupid asking this I remember flashing CWM every time I root a Android device.)
I have heard that there are some bugs in CWM for Nexus 10.
Thanks
siddardhab said:
Hello,
It's been a long time since I rooted a device.So please be patient.
I want to root the tablet because I need open vpn connectivity and I don't need a custom ROM because I am mainly using it as a media consumption device.
Does rooting automatically mean flashing a custom recovery(CWM) Is it possible to root without flashing one(I feel stupid asking this I remember flashing CWM every time I root a Android device.)
I have heard that there are some bugs in CWM for Nexus 10.
Thanks
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Well I like to think Android is Linux; which it basically is. It gives you access to system files and delve deeper than what you can normally access. superuser access more or less. You can install custom ROMs AFTER you are rooted. That's pretty much it. Also, no rooting doesn't automatically flashing a custom recovery.
A custom recovery is just a custom recovery that you can flash through fastboot..for a plethora of different functions which cannot be done easily with the stock recovery. Which is..another method of customizing and accessing your phone...since this can go on for a long time I'm just going to stop and add that you're better off reading and learning stuff before trying to do any of it though.
Good luck!
I've never quite got an answer to this: does rooting automatically ends warranty? What is Samsung's official take? Does unrooting work and can I cover traces? I only want rooting for adblocking and USB OTG, but now risking warranty.
I don't think rooting a device voids any warranty. You can always lock the bootloader and reflash the stock image and it's as if nothing ever happened.
If it were to void the warranty, Google wouldn't have made it easy to unlock the bootloader and root. If you tamper with with hardware in the device then yes it will void your warranty.
So basically, what is the point of rooting the device?
realyweely said:
So basically, what is the point of rooting the device?
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Personally I'd do that fro adblocking and external storage mounting, if it doesn't require messing with the ROM which I'd prefer not to.
what kind of adblocking just out of interest? is it possible to get something like adfender for portable devices?
AdAway is a popular app, dunno of compatible with the N10 just yet.
Rooting allows you to freeze apps that you don't want to keep them form wasting resources, freeze & hide apps you do not want the kids to use, back up apps & data plus entire system just in case you accidentally do something stupid. Then there is AdFree to block ads. Plus, if you get bored in the future you can jump into ROM flashing.
siddardhab said:
I want to root the tablet because I need open vpn connectivity and I don't need a custom ROM because I am mainly using it as a media consumption device.
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'OpenVPN for Android' (by Arne Schwabe) does not need root (btw I do not own a nexus 10 to check if it works on it)
Hello,
I've was forced to create a post about that because there is almost nothing of use that can be found about that phone in the internet.
I need to know how to check the bootloader status on this device so i can safely root it, and if there are any working ROMs. I've found out that it is possible to install 9505 roms on that phone, however the touch and other crucial features do not work while using them.
Cheers, Paweł.
Thanks in advance, i appreciate Your help!
Go into download mode and if you see Knox warranty void you have new bootloader.this has nothing hover to do with safe root or not.you can still however root the device.but counter will be tripped if flashing custom recovery and kernel.
LastStandingDroid said:
Go into download mode and if you see Knox warranty void you have new bootloader.this has nothing hover to do with safe root or not.you can still however root the device.but counter will be tripped if flashing custom recovery and kernel.
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Oh thanks! :good: I will do so. But about that safe root. I wanted to use the CF Auto Root for that and it was said there that if the device has a locked bootloader it will brick if i'll try to unlock the root access.
Should i try another way to root my device or give it a try and see what happens if i'll root it using cf auto root. I know that almost none or all ways to root the device are not safe, but following some of them have higher chances of success than others that's what i meant by safe root.
Zebbro said:
Oh thanks! :good: I will do so. But about that safe root. I wanted to use the CF Auto Root for that and it was said there that if the device has a locked bootloader it will brick if i'll try to unlock the root access.
Should i try another way to root my device or give it a try and see what happens if i'll root it using cf auto root. I know that almost none or all ways to root the device are not safe, but following some of them have higher chances of success than others that's what i meant by safe root.
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All the info, rooting recoveries, roms available so far for i9515
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/i9515-value-edition-roms-development-t3002535
Zebbro said:
Oh thanks! :good: I will do so. But about that safe root. I wanted to use the CF Auto Root for that and it was said there that if the device has a locked bootloader it will brick if i'll try to unlock the root access.
Should i try another way to root my device or give it a try and see what happens if i'll root it using cf auto root. I know that almost none or all ways to root the device are not safe, but following some of them have higher chances of success than others that's what i meant by safe root.
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I think you have misunderstood or misread.or users haven't understand that root is still possible. It isn't locked in any way. The bootloader still let's you flash custom kernels etc.
Rooting with cf root shouldn't and has never bricked your phone on newer recoveries. The bootloader isn't locked in the way of flashing in Odin you can still flash custom kernels and recoveries but it will trip the Knox counter.
However: tripping Knox will cause you being unable to use Knox apps from Samsung and might void your warranty.
Users have told different reports about them being tripped and got warranty and some haven't. I'm not sure if this lies in 3rd party repair centers repairing the phone even if it's tripped. I'm sure Samsung service center is against it.
I'd be 100% sure that my phone carrier would repair it no matter the status since it doesn't go trough Samsung service at first.
However to gain root you should try towelroot it's a one click apk and it won't trip Knox unless you flash a custom kernel or recovery.
I just need some help. I have been using a guide which was working perfectly at first but then it failed due to a faulty battery. Got a new battery and its still not rooting properly. If anyone is will to share some guidance I would really appreciate it.
MICONA14 said:
I just need some help. I have been using a guide which was working perfectly at first but then it failed due to a faulty battery. Got a new battery and its still not rooting properly. If anyone is will to share some guidance I would really appreciate it.
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Why would root fail due to a flauty battery?
Install a custom recovery first then flash SuperSU. Use Odin. Check YouTube. Flash twrp. Then flash SuperSU. You have a custom recovery and root. If you want only root try alps like kingroot.
The faulty battery didn't have enough power to turn the phone back on after the root made it reboot. It just kept putting it into a bootloop.
The guide I was using said to use Kingroot to temproot it (it rooted once and then got stuck in the bootloop, which is were the phone is currently now) and then SuperSU to perm root it but now I can't even get more than 55% with Kingroot before it shuts itself down.
I thought the bootloop was my fault from ****ing with it so I flashed twrp onto it and it now has a little broken lock that says custom over it but the twrp commands don't come up so I still can't put the ROM on it.
If your on 5.1.1 better use kingoroot for a high success rate and after that you NEED to unlock bootloader first and then flash twrp. If you dont unlock bootloader you cant flash twrp.
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rodynares said:
If your on 5.1.1 better use kingoroot for a high success rate and after that you NEED to unlock bootloader first and then flash twrp. If you dont unlock bootloader you cant flash twrp.
Sorry I am new to this ****, I don't know how to unlock bootloader?
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rodynares said:
If your on 5.1.1 better use kingoroot for a high success rate and after that you NEED to unlock bootloader first and then flash twrp. If you dont unlock bootloader you cant flash twrp.
Sorry I am new to this ****, I don't know how to unlock bootloader?
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Why would you use Kingroot or Kingoroot if not to unlock the bootloader? Neither will give you a stable root and both have the potential of calling home to China with your personal data.
If you need to unlock your bootloader there are threads in this subforum that will tell you how to do it. However, I'd strongly suggest that you do some serious study into what you're doing and why before you attempt it.
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Why would you use Kingroot or Kingoroot if not to unlock the bootloader? Neither will give you a stable root and both have the potential of calling home to China with your personal data.
If you need to unlock your bootloader there are threads in this subforum that will tell you how to do it. However, I'd strongly suggest that you do some serious study into what you're doing and why before you attempt it.[/QUOTE]
My roommate from college was telling me to do this and was helping me but he did a half as way of explaining this stuff so thats why I came here. The Kingroot and Kingoroot is to unlock bootloader? I thought they were for a temproot? Not to be a pest but would you be so kind to explain?
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Why would you use Kingroot or Kingoroot if not to unlock the bootloader? Neither will give you a stable root and both have the potential of calling home to China with your personal data.
If you need to unlock your bootloader there are threads in this subforum that will tell you how to do it. However, I'd strongly suggest that you do some serious study into what you're doing and why before you attempt it.
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My roommate from college was telling me to do this and was helping me but he did a half as way of explaining this stuff so thats why I came here. The Kingroot and Kingoroot is to unlock bootloader? I thought they were for a temproot? Not to be a pest but would you be so kind to explain?[/QUOTE]
You need temporary root at which time you can deploy the exploit that will unlock the bootloader and give you full root. That's what Kingroot or Kingoroot do for you. What they may or may not do for you is give your phone cooties and call home to China with your personal information.
Can I hold your hand and walk you through rooting your phone? Yeah, I could, but I won't. The guys that developed the exploit think it's a good idea for someone to have at least a clue as to what they're doing. I happen to agree with that. Rooting is fairly safe for your phone so long as you're willing and able to follow directions exactly.
Read up on the process of rooting. There are three or four threads in the general section that tell you how. If you think you're up for it, do it.
Hey I believe many people have questions around the KNOX and warranty void if you root/install custom recovery.
So I woud like to know:
Is there any software besided KingOroot (doesn't work in A5 510M) or Kingroot (I'm not installing that thing because plenty of people says it steal your data or are impossible to remove) which can root without messing with partitions / custom recovery, meaning it won't trigger the knox counter?
Has anyone confirmed that by only having the KNOX counter triggered samsung has denied to give warranty? Even if the phone is unroot?
Is there any method that roots the device without KNOX tripping?
Thanks
if you are on a 5.1.x device, you might wanna give systemless root a try, i think they ported it to 5.1.x as it was a Marshmallow solution initially.
aside of that, nope.
also, a few regions, like Europe, do not accept root, and especially knox triggering as a warranty void.
and my personal two cents, trigger it, no worth at all, if your device ends up unbootable, there is no way they are going to bother reading through your chip of what you have done, most of the time you'll win the procedures if you need warranty
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if you are on a 5.1.x device, you might wanna give systemless root a try, i think they ported it to 5.1.x as it was a Marshmallow solution initially.
aside of that, nope.
also, a few regions, like Europe, do not accept root, and especially knox triggering as a warranty void.
and my personal two cents, trigger it, no worth at all, if your device ends up unbootable, there is no way they are going to bother reading through your chip of what you have done, most of the time you'll win the procedures if you need warranty
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thanks pal! I believe samsung has made it very easy for support to check whether the knox is triggered or not, otherwise how would it help anything with them fixing less phones?
In germany (its in europe,lol) knox counter on 1 is not a problem when in warranty,just look my thread in q/a section.
The only way they would know that is through going in Download Mode... So, this is just a crazy thought, but I always planned that if something went so wrong that I couldn't fix it myself (I mean if I can go to Download I can probably still fix whatever is wrong unless the device is bricked), I would just break the volume buttons, so that they can't get to Download Mode either. I know, a rash decision, but just food for thought.
Kingroot is easily removed. Don't believe all the silly scare mongering.
It's the most successful root exploit available without tripping knox.
ashyx said:
Kingroot is easily removed. Don't believe all the silly scare mongering.
It's the most successful root exploit available without tripping knox.
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I have read plenty of cases of the thing working like a virus, sending data to china, making it impossible to remove. I will not put that in my phone. I have tried kinOroot and it didn't work. But sent stuff outside anyways...
fscussel said:
I have read plenty of cases of the thing working like a virus, sending data to china, making it impossible to remove. I will not put that in my phone. I have tried kinOroot and it didn't work. But sent stuff outside anyways...
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So you just go from what read rather than try it yourself and you think KingOroot is different? It does contact servers in China, that's how it works.
It's easily removed by simply uninstalling or using SuperSume.
Millions of people have used it and I don't know of one documented case of someone being hacked after using it lol.
KingRoot contacts servers in China because it takes little-to-no space. A version of it that doesn't have to contact any server, and still grant you root access... Well, such an app would be over 3GB big, and would be of the same size, even after it finishes the job and gets you root access. It would be extremely inefficient, and that is an understatement. The servers in China contain the exploits that can be used to grant access to root without using a custom recovery (as a custom recovery would trip KNOX). There are thousands and thousands of files in those servers. As I said, it would be possible to make a one-click-root app that can root thousands of devices and that doesn't make contact with any server, but you would have to include all those thousands of files in the app, in order for it to work. No one is crazy enough to do such a thing.
ashyx said:
So you just go from what read rather than try it yourself and you think KingOroot is different? It does contact servers in China, that's how it works.
It's easily removed by simply uninstalling or using SuperSume.
Millions of people have used it and I don't know of one documented case of someone being hacked after using it lol.
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King-V said:
KingRoot contacts servers in China because it takes little-to-no space. A version of it that doesn't have to contact any server, and still grant you root access... Well, such an app would be over 3GB big, and would be of the same size, even after it finishes the job and gets you root access. It would be extremely inefficient, and that is an understatement. The servers in China contain the exploits that can be used to grant access to root without using a custom recovery (as a custom recovery would trip KNOX). There are thousands and thousands of files in those servers. As I said, it would be possible to make a one-click-root app that can root thousands of devices and that doesn't make contact with any server, but you would have to include all those thousands of files in the app, in order for it to work. No one is crazy enough to do such a thing.
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I have read that if you try to remove it you can in fact brick your cell...
fscussel said:
I have read that if you try to remove it you can in fact brick your cell...
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Holy smokes...is this serious? :sly:
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Holy smokes...is this serious? :sly:
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why so funny? Reson is simple:
After people install kingroot it add many unwanted programs, and also refuses to be uninstalled. People then try to use SuperSU ME to remove it and leave just supersu, and in this process many have got a bricked device. They say this happens because of the kingroot's code to fight anything that tries to remove it.
Now, are you some sort of associate of kingroot?
PlutoDelic said:
if you are on a 5.1.x device, you might wanna give systemless root a try, i think they ported it to 5.1.x as it was a Marshmallow solution initially.
aside of that, nope.
also, a few regions, like Europe, do not accept root, and especially knox triggering as a warranty void.
and my personal two cents, trigger it, no worth at all, if your device ends up unbootable, there is no way they are going to bother reading through your chip of what you have done, most of the time you'll win the procedures if you need warranty
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systemless root needs custom recovery installed as far as I can tell. So knox counter already 0x1 because of custom recovery.
Also I would like to know, if I install custom recovery, and the an OTA update comes, for 6.0, I would have to first remove TWRP, as so to use the OTA, after that, reinstall TWRP, would that trigger the knox again?
0x2 ??
fscussel said:
why so funny? Reson is simple:
After people install kingroot it add many unwanted programs, and also refuses to be uninstalled. People then try to use SuperSU ME to remove it and leave just supersu, and in this process many have got a bricked device. They say this happens because of the kingroot's code to fight anything that tries to remove it.
Now, are you some sort of associate of kingroot?
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They say, he says, she says, do you actually have a clue what you are talking about?
I'm pretty sure I do.
It can be removed like any other app.
If you actually knew what you were talking about you'd know that.
It wont allow another root exploit to easily replace it, this is down to some silliness between Chainfire and King team. It is a pain but it can still be removed or replaced no problem. I wrote a whole guide how to do it.
Literally millions have achieved root with KingRoot and for many is the only way they can.
I dont advocate it nor am I against it.
Dont judge something until you've tried it.
I'll say no more on the matter now as I'm getting dizzy.
ashyx said:
They say, he says, she says, do you actually have a clue what you are talking about?
I'm pretty sure I do.
It can be removed like any other app.
If you actually knew what you were talking about you'd know that.
It wont allow another root exploit to easily replace it, this is down to some silliness between Chainfire and King team. It is a pain but it can still be removed or replaced no problem. I wrote a whole guide how to do it.
Literally millions have achieved root with KingRoot and for many is the only way they can.
I dont advocate it nor am I against it.
Dont judge something until you've tried it.
I'll say no more on the matter now as I'm getting dizzy.
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1) I don't know if it works in my A5 2016 510M, can't find a compatible list or a report.
2) I have read reports of problems uninstalling it.
3) I have read reports of problems uninstalling it with SuperSU Me, including bricking.
4) I find you very arrogant.
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1) I don't know if it works in my A5 2016 510M, can't find a compatible list or a report.
2) I have read reports of problems uninstalling it.
3) I have read reports of problems uninstalling it with SuperSU Me, including bricking.
4) I find you very arrogant.
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You are obviously learning what you know from other misinformed users.
1. Just try it if it doesn't work it doesn't work just uninstall it.
2. As I have said, no such issue.
3. There's a reason why replacing it with SuperSU bricks some devices and it has absolutely nothing to do with kingroot.
If you attempt to replace it with SuperSU on anything above 5.0.2 on a Samsung device it's likely to soft brick it and cause a boot loop.
This is due to Samsungs root restriction policy in the kernel. The same goes for Android 6.0 devices.
To root with supersu on these devices you need a patched boot.img to remove the selinux restriction.
4. I find you very misinformed.
ashyx said:
You are obviously learning what you know from other misinformed users.
1. Just try it if it doesn't work it doesn't work just uninstall it.
2. As I have said, no such issue.
3. There's a reason why replacing it with SuperSU bricks some devices and it has absolutely nothing to do with kingroot.
If you attempt to replace it with SuperSU on anything above 5.0.2 on a Samsung device it's likely to soft brick it.
This is due to Samsungs root restriction policy in the kernel. The same goes for Android 6.0 devices.
To root with supersu on these devices you need a patched boot.img to remove the selinux restriction.
4. I find you very misinformed.
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very misinformed but I have just saved my device from brick, because if you did your work your would see it's android 5.1.1 and it's samsung.
Now let me know if it works with a samsung 5.1.1 with KNOX and perhaps I will try it.
Also let me know how to remove it and install SuperSU over it.
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very misinformed but I have just saved my device from brick, because if you did your work your would see it's android 5.1.1 and it's samsung.
Now let me know if it works with a samsung 5.1.1 with KNOX and perhaps I will try it.
Also let me know how to remove it and install SuperSU over it.
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Kingroot won't brick your device, replacing it with supersu will. Not sure where in this discussion I said anything to the contrary? :what:
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Kingroot won't brick your device, replacing it with supersu will. Not sure where in this discussion I said anything to the contrary? :what:
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very non-productive answer... please check again
Hi
I want to know is there any way to root without using pc. My bootloader is unlocked. Need to flash twrp.
mapbond said:
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I want to know is there any way to root without using pc. My bootloader is unlocked. Need to flash twrp.
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Don't think so, no. Not without root anyway.
Kingroot might work but it's a horrible app that isn't worth the trouble it creates. If Kingroot works on this phone then you can probably install a custom recovery via something like Flashify or the TWRP app. The problem with Kingroot is that it's basically malware. It installs adware on your phone and won't give root access to anything that interferes with its functioning like Adaway or an alternate root app. It also sends God only knows what data from your phone to China. You are honestly better off not being rooted at all than using Kingroot. There are instructions for rooting with Kingroot and then switching root to SU but unless the instructions are extremely up to date they will not work. Kingroot is updated with the specific purpose of preventing you from being able to do anything that reduces the power Kingroot has over your phone. It can be uninstalled but the app makes certain you completely lose root functions before that happens.
no support
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Kingroot might work but it's a horrible app that isn't worth the trouble it creates. If Kingroot works on this phone then you can probably install a custom recovery via something like Flashify or the TWRP app. The problem with Kingroot is that it's basically malware. It installs adware on your phone and won't give root access to anything that interferes with its functioning like Adaway or an alternate root app. It also sends God only knows what data from your phone to China. You are honestly better off not being rooted at all than using Kingroot. There are instructions for rooting with Kingroot and then switching root to SU but unless the instructions are extremely up to date they will not work. Kingroot is updated with the specific purpose of preventing you from being able to do anything that reduces the power Kingroot has over your phone. It can be uninstalled but the app makes certain you completely lose root functions before that happens.
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i tried kingroot there is no support from there end. so i uninstalled it.
You can't. You need to unlock the bootloader if this phone and this requires a PC