Since most of today's phones have a notch, why not this one too?
Imo, it would look better using the secondary display as a part of the main display.
Only the notification icons would need to be shifted a little more to the right.
Like, is it even possible to disable the hardware keys, enable a navbar and on the navbar modify HTC's immersive mode button to not only hide the navbar, but the secondary screen too?
And, like on any other HTC, when you's swipe up from the bottom of the screen it would show the navbar again, but this time also the secondary screen.
Myrmeko said:
Since most of today's phones have a notch, why not this one too?
Imo, it would look better using the secondary display as a part of the main display.
Only the notification icons would need to be shifted a little more to the right.
Like, is it even possible to disable the hardware keys, enable a navbar and on the navbar modify HTC's immersive mode button to not only hide the navbar, but the secondary screen too?
And, like on any other HTC, when you's swipe up from the bottom of the screen it would show the navbar again, but this time also the secondary screen.
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Haha. I just need Android P for now. Hope HTC not dead until released Android P. ?
Look at this:
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=3811043&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
Extended screen. Maybe is the way to set icon properly on secend screen.
Przecin said:
Look at this:
https://r.tapatalk.com/shareLink?ur...share_tid=3811043&share_fid=3793&share_type=t
Extended screen. Maybe is the way to set icon properly on secend screen.
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That's dope. I guess it just needs a little bit more tinkering to show stuff properly the right way up.
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Hey guys,
I've had my Nexus for just over a month now and apart from a few minor issues I'm really enjoying my experience with my Nexus.
BUT: One thing that really p*sses me off is the total waste of screen real estate being the "on screen buttons". I can sort of understand the device having as few as possible buttons is pretty cool but when it starts invading your screen size that is NOT COOL.
I have a few questions for google: Why oh why did you make the background for the navigation buttons black?? Why not transparent? Or transparent with a blur effect? Personally I would prefer just transparent with faint white back, home and app switcher buttons. It would make more of the screen available to see.
If I were to root my device, are these things that i could schange in the System or Framework RES folders? Or would it be much more complicated than that (i.e. changing color hex's in .xml files?)?
Search for how to enable the tablet UI. I had to enlarge the font to make things a bit more comfortable for me, but I really do like the true tablet UI.
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Hey guys,
I've had my Nexus for just over a month now and apart from a few minor issues I'm really enjoying my experience with my Nexus.
BUT: One thing that really p*sses me off is the total waste of screen real estate being the "on screen buttons". I can sort of understand the device having as few as possible buttons is pretty cool but when it starts invading your screen size that is NOT COOL.
I have a few questions for google: Why oh why did you make the background for the navigation buttons black?? Why not transparent? Or transparent with a blur effect? Personally I would prefer just transparent with faint white back, home and app switcher buttons. It would make more of the screen available to see.
If I were to root my device, are these things that i could schange in the System or Framework RES folders? Or would it be much more complicated than that (i.e. changing color hex's in .xml files?)?
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You can make it smaller.
Here's a guide.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1844878
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Hmm, nearly, but I still don't understand why the navbar background color has to be black, I just really don't get what the advantage is. It would just make so much more sense if it were see through.
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Hmm, nearly, but I still don't understand why the navbar background color has to be black, I just really don't get what the advantage is. It would just make so much more sense if it were see through.
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Maybe it was carried over from the gnex.
It's black on the gnex to take advantage of the AMOLED screen.
Beamed from Maguro
Hi
sikodemon said:
Hmm, nearly, but I still don't understand why the navbar background color has to be black, I just really don't get what the advantage is. It would just make so much more sense if it were see through.
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Presumably it is because it is dead space. Applications don't/can't expand into that area as it is protected. For example if you had an application open to the maximum behind translucent soft buttons, and that application required you to press something towards its bottom edge, you can't as it is now behind the menu buttons.
Ideally the buttons would be below the display and printed onto the touch screen as they are with my HTC One X, presumably they are not for either cost reasons or flexibility of the design.
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Phil
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Hmm, nearly, but I still don't understand why the navbar background color has to be black, I just really don't get what the advantage is. It would just make so much more sense if it were see through.
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I'd guess that it doesn't make sense for it to be transparent because there is nothing under the navbar. Its a part of the screen that is separate from the application, if you allowed the navbar to be imposed over the application and transparent then the bottom part of the screen would be unusable in the application because touching it would activate the navbar buttons rather than the applications.
That said on the launcher it would be easy to just extend the wallpaper over the navbar and make it transparent and in apps you could colour the navbar with the average colour of the application background etc, though of course Apple has a patent waiting for that http://www.phonearena.com/news/Appl...xed-video_id34472?ratelimit=-10&sort=threaded
Not true because you can hide the nav bar on certain roms and that space it was using up is definitely usable. Hey OP I forgot what it's called but there's a launcher somewhere based on nothing but gestures so you don't even need a nav bar and you can use that extra screen space you seem to desperately need.
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sikodemon said:
Hey guys,
I've had my Nexus for just over a month now and apart from a few minor issues I'm really enjoying my experience with my Nexus.
BUT: One thing that really p*sses me off is the total waste of screen real estate being the "on screen buttons". I can sort of understand the device having as few as possible buttons is pretty cool but when it starts invading your screen size that is NOT COOL.
I have a few questions for google: Why oh why did you make the background for the navigation buttons black?? Why not transparent? Or transparent with a blur effect? Personally I would prefer just transparent with faint white back, home and app switcher buttons. It would make more of the screen available to see.
If I were to root my device, are these things that i could schange in the System or Framework RES folders? Or would it be much more complicated than that (i.e. changing color hex's in .xml files?)?
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I agreed with you. Is there anyone that can port Motorola's Transparent Software Buttons, so it will be better?
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Not true because you can hide the nav bar on certain roms and that space it was using up is definitely usable. Hey OP I forgot what it's called but there's a launcher somewhere based on nothing but gestures so you don't even need a nav bar and you can use that extra screen space you seem to desperately need.
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You're both right and wrong. The launcher you're thinking of is probably the PIE launcher available on many custom ROMs, as well as its app equivalent (which I believe is called LMT). But your reasoning as far as hiding the navbar is incorrect. If you hide the navbar on a ROM (or even the way it's done in many games and the YouTube app), the navbar disappears, i.e. it's no longer protecting the screen space that it's not using. Making it transparent would do no such thing, and even if you forced an app to use the space beneath the navbar, you'd wind up with three floating navigation items that would probably conflict with an app's bottom navigation.
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I agreed with you. Is there anyone that can port Motorola's Transparent Software Buttons, so it will be better?
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If you want to look into custom ROMs, some will allow you to mess around with your navbar icons/actions (the main one I like is the replace Recent Apps with a Last App switcher). Paranoid Android also allows you to change the color (and I believe that includes alpha transparency), including a "chameleon"-style bar that changes color based on the active app's predominant scheme.
Also, to respond to something from earlier: black is better because as a static color, it uses less resources to draw and has the benefit of being power-efficient on AMOLED screens. In addition, while it might look neat, it's pretty well accepted in UI/UX lore that you should keep navigational elements as clearly and visually distinct as possible to make them easier to hit. Shoving white/grey buttons on top of an active-blurred background can create quite a headache.
There's a great example of this in the screenshots of Apple's control center for iOS 7. For some backgrounds, the control center is clearly visible despite the background bleeding through, but on others, you basically can't read the buttons because the blur is too distracting.
The bottom of my N7 screen cracked but the device is still very usable. The bottom half inch will not respond to touch, but everything above that point works just fine! I'm hoping for a way to expand my navigation bar size, or bump it up to leave my screen blank under it.. Any help will be greatly appreciated and I have some $ in PayPal as a thanks. Any help as in a ROM that allows a Nav Bar Resize.. A way to move it to the top of my tablet screen... Some way I can put a google search bar under it or anything to waste that space. Thanks for ideas, hoping to save my N7 and keep it usable without having to rotate it everytime I need that portion of my screen!
Adreneline420 said:
The bottom of my N7 screen cracked but the device is still very usable. The bottom half inch will not respond to touch, but everything above that point works just fine! I'm hoping for a way to expand my navigation bar size, or bump it up to leave my screen blank under it.. Any help will be greatly appreciated and I have some $ in PayPal as a thanks. Any help as in a ROM that allows a Nav Bar Resize.. A way to move it to the top of my tablet screen... Some way I can put a google search bar under it or anything to waste that space. Thanks for ideas, hoping to save my N7 and keep it usable without having to rotate it everytime I need that portion of my screen!
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I could have sworn I've seen navbar mods somewhere. You could always consider using PIE controls, however, if you want to remap them to the left/right screen edges.
Thanks for the quick reply. Pie Controls is a very useful work around for now. The app would be amazing if it let me choose exactly where on the screen I could pull up the navigation bar, but even without that option it is a great help!
I've seen some Mods but all of them seem to shrink the Bar, not enlarge it.
The reason I want to extend the stock navigation bar isn't just to be able to touch the buttons but it also pushes all opened apps, my home screen, etc up past that point that is cracked... So while playing a game or in my options menus I would still be able touch the bottom of my screen, just above the navigation bar (which I can't do now.) Basically, the top of the Bar is the bottom of my touch screen and it isn't high enough for me to use the entire screen =(
Adreneline420 said:
Thanks for the quick reply. Pie Controls is a very useful work around for now. The app would be amazing if it let me choose exactly where on the screen I could pull up the navigation bar, but even without that option it is a great help!
I've seen some Mods but all of them seem to shrink the Bar, not enlarge it.
The reason I want to extend the stock navigation bar isn't just to be able to touch the buttons but it also pushes all opened apps, my home screen, etc up past that point that is cracked... So while playing a game or in my options menus I would still be able touch the bottom of my screen, just above the navigation bar (which I can't do now.) Basically, the top of the Bar is the bottom of my touch screen and it isn't high enough for me to use the entire screen =(
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LMT Launcher is a pie control interface. It allows you to open from anywhere on the left or right and you can setup gestures as well with it to do the navbar functions. Look it up here on xda.
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Anyone know of a tweak or setting to change the gravity of the navbar?
It is driving me crazy that I can't just set it to stay at the phones physical bottom,
That would allow me to rotate the phone to choose if i want it on the right or left side.
Now I have it on the right side no matter what or at the bottom if I choose phablet mode, neither of which suits me.
Guess what I am requesting is a toggle to set standard AOSP navbar behaviour.
Another small issue, choosing custom icons on the navbar doesn't do anything.
And two feature suggestions.
An option to set a navbar toggle for PA's immersive mode when that arrives.
An option to insert navbar toggles anywhere not just at the far right. The problem with the current behaviour is, that you have to redo all the nav buttons, if you want to add an extra button at the left side.
Great work guys!
This is imho by far the best rom! :good:
Hey guys, so I've followed a guide to get immersive mode all the time, just wanna say first of all that is awesome and that I regret not taking a look at it sooner, finally the 6.2" are actually 6.2 (I just thought it would have worked like ****); I was wondering if it's possible to extend immersive mode to when the keyboard is open, it works perfectly everywhere BUT when the keyboard is open.
Thank you!
I don't even know what immersive mode is? haha Where is the setting for that and what does it do?
Blaalad12 said:
I don't even know what immersive mode is? haha Where is the setting for that and what does it do?
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That would be the ability to hide the status bar as well as the navbar so that you can get the full size of the screen with nothing wasted. What I really liked is that you can choose either navbar or status bar or both although I ended up choosing both but still it's good to have the choice
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That would be the ability to hide the status bar as well as the navbar so that you can get the full size of the screen with nothing wasted. What I really liked is that you can choose either navbar or status bar or both although I ended up choosing both but still it's good to have the choice
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Where can this be toggled on? and if the navbar is invisible then how do you go back the homescreen/ back to the previous page?
Blaalad12 said:
Where can this be toggled on? and if the navbar is invisible then how do you go back the homescreen/ back to the previous page?
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You can see it by swiping up from the bottom and you can see the status bar by swiping down from the top. This is the guide I followed
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...re-screen-real-estate-no-root-needed-0177297/
JohnPyn said:
You can see it by swiping up from the bottom and you can see the status bar by swiping down from the top. This is the guide I followed
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...re-screen-real-estate-no-root-needed-0177297/
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Not quite the same thing, but if you want more screen real estate and don't want to full-on hide the status and / or nav bars, you can come close to "immersive" (and increase viewing area) by tweaking dpi in Developer Options, changing font / zoom in Display, and working with keyboard sizing--some discussion here https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/how-to/view-content-screen-t3594320 .
I tried the adb - immersive, and it works fine. Issue I had was that a couple of apps that I regularly use have their own app-specific nav bars at the bottom of their window, and swiping up to get the system nav bar with my fat fingers invariably interacted with the app's nav bar. Now, I use the higher dpi setting which yields a nicely larger viewing screen with much smaller status and nav bars.
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Issue I had has that a couple of apps that I regularly use have their own app-specific nav bars at the bottom of their window, and swiping up to get the system nav bar with my fat fingers invariably interacted with the app's nav bar. Now, I use the higher dpi setting which yields a nicely larger viewing screen with much smaller status and nav bars.
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I have (fortunately) none of these apps since I'm really loving this immersive mode, the dpi trick can work indeed, I had 560 ish set as min width, I still kept that even though I'm in immersive mode now but I'm really glad everything is working properly
Hey friends
I really don't like the navbar which is reducing the screen to much, so I decided to install J Touch app from playstore.
Loaded a nice looking home button jpeg picture from the web. Give the button a one hit back function, a long press home function and a swipe up for recents.
Please see attached pictures navigating is nice and I whish I could even eliminate the navbar on the homescreen
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Hey friends
I really don't like the navbar which is reducing the screen to much, so I decided to install J Touch app from playstore.
Loaded a nice looking home button jpeg picture from the web. Give the button a one hit back function, a long press home function and a swipe up for recents.
Please see attached pictures navigating is nice and I whish I could even eliminate the navbar on the homescreen
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Keeping one icon appear on the screen all the time may cause burn in I'd be worried about that
big_b0sss said:
Keeping one icon appear on the screen all the time may cause burn in I'd be worried about that
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No I don't think so. There is transparency setted, the button is popping if hitted and it is shifting up on home screen. You could be as scared or even more about a status bar burn in...
and look how much time is needed:
"Test Results
The iPhone X displayed burn-ins before the Galaxy Note 8 at 17 hours. However, it took 510 hours for the images to become permanently etched on its display which also marked the end of the test.
Compared to that, the Note 8 took 62 hours to show first signs of display burn-in, which is impressive. However, it had permanent marks way before the end of the test. The Galaxy S7 Edge showed signs of burn-in sooner than the iPhone X, however, it showed permanent burn-ins much later than the Note 8 and almost at iPhone X’s 510 hour mark."
From page:
https://propakistani.pk/2018/01/05/iphone-xs-screen-shows-burn-marks-just-17-hours-test/
Ok so would you recommend the app over navigation gesture? The gesture is not polished at the moment I'll give the app a go
big_b0sss said:
Ok so would you recommend the app over navigation gesture? The gesture is not polished at the moment I'll give the app a go
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I think so, you can also activate temporary move, which is helpful is s.th. is hided by the button. So you can move the button away for two seconds. You can hide button always in landscape, it is hiding when you are keyboard typing... it is perfect for 18:9 displays.
If navbar would have a one button control too, I wouldn't use J Touch.
You can also give it an iPhone look but ok I guess everybody is hating apple .
Edit: Ah ok you mean gesture. Sorry I didn't have this option until now.... don't know what is better
Looks like a nice app. I prefer LMT Launcher though as you can set it to do almost any task and only comes on the screen when you activate it so creates a really clean look with extra functionality.
Or you could try Gesture Control from Conena.. I'm very happy with the way the gestures work
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Looks like a nice app. I prefer LMT Launcher though as you can set it to do almost any task and only comes on the screen when you activate it so creates a really clean look with extra functionality.
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Have you been able to use lmt with stock os? If so, I'd like to know the secret for getting rid of the nav bar
Not sure. Not really a fan of stock. From other forum members, it's possible to disable it with the joneplustool app. Both that and LMT require root.
I've been using Swipe Navigation. It even has long press functionality. Loving it so far.
That looks bat **** ugly, why don't you just download https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.suphi.swipenavigation&hl=en ?
In my kg g6 its eating battery like elephant ??
Xposed Edge anyone?