**Update** See new note added 2/16/13 at bottom!
Trying to provide a single informational resource on three, typically related issues:
1. My N7 turns off randomly
2. My N7 dies early at ___% battery (you fill in the value)
3. My N7 turned itself off, and won't turn back on
There’s a ton of threads all over the net regarding these issues, some providing unintentionally misleading info, some progress towards actually defining the issue and posing possible solutions. Reports of these issues started back when the N7 was first released and continue to this day. These issues have been reported to Google, but who knows whether or not the Google God will attend to them anytime soon.
What follows is what I’ve learned about these issues, how they affected most users, and how they were resolved for most users. This is not intended to capture every possible exception.
Issue #1:
For some users, their N7 just turns off randomly, regardless of battery level. For them, a loose battery connector is typically the cause. Popping off the back cover, re-seating the connector and possibly putting a tiny piece of tape to keep it secured over time is the fix.
Issue #2:
Many users notice that their N7’s turn off by itself, typically when the battery is at the lower-end of the % scale – anywhere from 40% down to 20% or so. Most users think that their N7 is running out of power "early" – but it seems that the 40% - 20% indication is erroneous - the battery is really at 0%, and is turning off as it should. This appears to be the caused by a software glitch that Google has to address. Doing a Factory Reset and a battery pull appears to remedy this issue for just about everyone. Please note that a corollary to this issue is the observation that once charged, the N7 remains at 100% far longer than it should.
Issue #3:
Taken out of context, having an N7 that won’t start seems like a terrible thing. But in most cases, it’s caused by Issues #1 and #2.
- If Issue #1 caused it: reconnect the loose cable, recharge your battery if needed, and you are good-to-go.
- If #2 caused it, your N7 battery is dead. Plug your N7 into the original power supply, patiently wait a few minutes then patiently hold down the power button up to 30 seconds (actually look at your watch – it’s gotta be “up to 30 seconds”!), for just about everyone reporting, it’ll start up just fine.
- If both of these methods don't work, try powering-down via the bootloader: plug your N7 into the charger, press Volume-Down and Power at the same time, in the bootloader choose "Power-Off Device", unplug your N7 and plug it back in. Do you see the battery meter? If so, you're done.
- While the original power supply should be the best to use in these troubleshooting procedures, if you are not getting a resolution of this issue, some N7 owners have had success with power supplied by USB via PC. Give it a try.
Since these problems are widespread, there are a number of “fixes” offered other than those above, that are somewhat anecdotal – they only “work” in one/couple instances and therefore there’s no real evidence that they are relevant. This group includes:
- Using battery calibration apps to fix the problem
- Dumping battery stats
- Uninstalling a specific " troublesome" app
Some users send their N7’s back to Google, and their new N7’s are deemed "fine". A number of knowledgeable users have speculated that most of these N7’s sent back really only suffered from the fixable issues listed above. To support this notion, some have reported that the replacements have the same “defects” as their first units, and they continue to send them back.
My experience:
My N7 worked perfectly for the first two weeks of ownership. Then it started turning off at 30% and 23%. I also noted that once I charged-up, my N7 would stay at 100% forever, leading me to believe that the battery readings were hosed-up. After these problems started, it would not go below the 30%-20% thresholds. The first time I tried to power it up - it wouldn't - and I thought is had totally borked. I tried eventually figured out that I needed to add power, wait, then hold down the power button. Worked every time.
For me, I wanted to know if I had a loose battery connector - a common problem, even though my N7 was not shutting down randomly, it was always at low battery levels. I figured that I'd just do the two things that research showed would work for sure, and would cover two different issues. I popped the back off, found that the connector as well-seated, but I pulled it off anyway to do the "battery pull". I reconnected and added a bit of electrical tape to keep it secured. I then did a Factory Reset using the option under "Settings/Backup and Reset". My N7 has been absolutely PERFECT since - just as most users report.
There is still the apparent issue of Google fixing the issue that causes the battery indication to be inaccurate.
I hope that this post serves to help others that experience these issues.
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Update 2/16/13
I noticed in the past 2 days that my N7 started staying on 100% for prolonged periods of time. I figured that it once again lost it's ability to provide accurate battery status. Therefore, I projected that when it gets down to 30% or so, it'll turn off. It did.
I did the fixes I outlined in the OP and this time they didn't work. After pulling the battery and doing a factory reset, it still indicated 30% battery left - and I KNOW it's really at/near 0%.
I've been monitoring this issue since I made this thread and I've noticed that a growing number of N7 users were fixing this issue by simply turning off their N7's for a period of time. So I gave that a go.
I plugged my N7 in for about 20 minutes to give it the juice it would need to restart after the period of time being turned off. Then, I unplugged it and turned it off. Waited an hour, and when I restarted it, the battery had been recalibrated to 0%. Awesome!
So where does this leave us? Here are my thoughts:
- Since there are a number of different causes that result in the symptoms listed in the OP, those fixes are still relevant for those specific causes.
- We should add this latest fix to the collection, as it worked perfectly for me today.
- It's possible that our N7's should be periodically turned off - possibly overnight as it charges. I know that I plan to occasionally do this. If you don't have a disconnected/loose battery cable, or some issue with software that is remedied by a Factory Reset, maybe your N7 just needs to be turned off to recalibrate every now and then. Update: As of 5/3013, my N7 has been flawless. It's entirely possible that this is because I shut-down my N7 every week or two to recalibrate.
As always, I hope this keeps N7 users from freaking out, or sending their N7's back - unless it's really necessary.
And as I said in the OP, Google really needs to address this, as there's plenty of evidence that many N7 owners experience these issues. I'll update my report to Google.
Stock 4.1 upgraded to 4.2.1
No Root/unlock
Software or Hardware? Who know's..
I received my N7 on dec 20th 2012, still haven;t gotten to use it more than a day or 2... had battery issues off the hope, shut of at 21% ish... tried turning it on... just got screen flickering. Tried chargin it for hours, still nothing... after submitting an RMA after a couple days of charging with device on or off or with screen flickering ,,,nothing worked. Hung up with support... tried with USB connected to PC... got the device to boot.
I also in between random variations of cables and what not I did the D/C on battery ... didn't do much for me.
Charged device to 100% used down to 60% charged to 75%
Used again for 5 minutes
Device turned off.
Wouldn't boot
Another day of messing around... got it to turn on
Booted, battery was at 0% said it was shutting down
Tried a few more times (without charging) Just shut down cause battery was at 0%
Tried again, Booted said battery was at 85%
Light Use
Plugged in to charge, got home from work next day, device won't turn on
Been 3 days
New device form RMA gets in today.
If it comes with 4.1 I am going to run it for a few days because when i received my first device, it seemed to be working fine for the first 2 hours... got my device setup then decided to do the update to 4.2.1
Immediately my device shut down and gave me a screen flickering issue... did hard reset (held power for like 10 sec) device turned on... then experienced all the crap above.
So if i update after a couple days... and then run into issues... it would tell myself that there could be an issue with the update... but who knows as all the reading I have been doing, every scenario is different.
Google told me to submit a second RMA if it continues.... I'd rather not have the device if I just have to keep returning it.
Blesseld said:
Stock 4.1 upgraded to 4.2.1
No Root/unlock
Software or Hardware? Who know's..
I received my N7 on dec 20th 2012, still haven;t gotten to use it more than a day or 2... had battery issues off the hope, shut of at 21% ish... tried turning it on... just got screen flickering. Tried chargin it for hours, still nothing... after submitting an RMA after a couple days of charging with device on or off or with screen flickering ,,,nothing worked. Hung up with support... tried with USB connected to PC... got the device to boot.
I also in between random variations of cables and what not I did the D/C on battery ... didn't do much for me.
Charged device to 100% used down to 60% charged to 75%
Used again for 5 minutes
Device turned off.
Wouldn't boot
Another day of messing around... got it to turn on
Booted, battery was at 0% said it was shutting down
Tried a few more times (without charging) Just shut down cause battery was at 0%
Tried again, Booted said battery was at 85%
Light Use
Plugged in to charge, got home from work next day, device won't turn on
Been 3 days
New device form RMA gets in today.
If it comes with 4.1 I am going to run it for a few days because when i received my first device, it seemed to be working fine for the first 2 hours... got my device setup then decided to do the update to 4.2.1
Immediately my device shut down and gave me a screen flickering issue... did hard reset (held power for like 10 sec) device turned on... then experienced all the crap above.
So if i update after a couple days... and then run into issues... it would tell myself that there could be an issue with the update... but who knows as all the reading I have been doing, every scenario is different.
Google told me to submit a second RMA if it continues.... I'd rather not have the device if I just have to keep returning it.
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Sorry to hear of this.
Not sure that I read that you did the Factory Reset, as suggested in the OP.
Give that a try.
Pulling the battery and/or doing a full Factory Reset is the fix for the vast majority of N7 users.
You may be an exception to that. Hope not.
Ya I have done the factory reset and battery pull, after the reset it just reset to 4.2.1 it came with 4.1.
Then it shut down on me again, I have my new unit it now. Running solid so far, good battery charge... not taking forever. hasn't shut down yet.
I'm going to run it on 4.1 for a day or 2 then update. Hopefully I don't run into issue after the update... it was probably coincidence but i ran into problems after updating on my first N7 to 4.2.1
Well, then unlike many other N7 owners, since you did both the battery pull and Factory Reset, you can rest assured that you didn't waste your time sending your N7 back - it needed replacement.
Good luck with it!
Just reporting back with a status. The fixes I described above seem to be working perfectly for days now. Check my OP and give those recommendations a shot if you're having any issues. Hope this helps to simplify a potentially confusing landscape and to resolve these issues for other N7 owners.
Two of the ”fixes” that folks anecdotally reported... using a battery calibration app and clearing battery stats are 100% guaranteed not to work. Those who actually ascribe any effect to them are merely using faulty reasoning. Quite simply, the calibration apps are just another method of wiping battery stats. Nothing at all in batterystats.bin has any bearing on battery life or reported charge indication.
This isn't directed at anyone in particular. Rather, I'm just expounding on something from the OP.
Definitely a very useful thread, given what seems to be a not too uncommon issue. As an aside, I've also experienced the problem after flashing a new kernel. Reflashing the previous kernel corrected the issue.
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najaboy said:
Two of the ”fixes” that folks anecdotally reported... using a battery calibration app and clearing battery stats are 100% guaranteed not to work. Those who actually ascribe any effect to them are merely using faulty reasoning. Quite simply, the calibration apps are just another method of wiping battery stats. Nothing at all in batterystats.bin has any bearing on battery life or reported charge indication.
This isn't directed at anyone in particular. Rather, I'm just expounding on something from the OP.
Definitely a very useful thread, given what seems to be a not too uncommon issue. As an aside, I've also experienced the problem after flashing a new kernel. Reflashing the previous kernel corrected the issue.
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najaboy:
Excellent background on those two "fixes", and I agree 100%.
In creating this thread, I didn't want to really slam-dunk any of the "fixes" that other people have offered in other threads. But the research shows that you are exactly right: calibration apps and wiping battery stats will do absolutely nothing - guaranteed.
It's amazing how many misleading threads I had to wade-through to get to the fixes I recommend. No wonder so many people have returned their N7's to get one that "doesn't have the issues".
Crisis averted
billykxda said:
Trying to provide a single informational resource on three, typically related issues:
1. My N7 turns off randomly
2. My N7 dies early at ___% battery (you fill in the value)
3. My N7 turned itself off, and won't turn back on
There’s a ton of threads all over the net regarding these issues, some providing unintentionally misleading info, some progress towards actually defining the issue and posing possible solutions. Reports of these issues started back when the N7 was first released and continue to this day. These issues have been reported to Google, but who knows whether or not the Google God will attend to them anytime soon.
What follows is what I’ve learned about these issues, how they affected most users, and how they were resolved for most users. This is not intended to capture every possible exception.
Issue #1:
For some users, their N7 just turns off randomly, regardless of battery level. For them, a loose battery connector is typically the cause. Popping off the back cover, re-seating the connector and possibly putting a tiny piece of tape to keep it secured over time is the fix.
Issue #2:
Many users notice that their N7’s turn off by itself, typically when the battery is at the lower-end of the % scale – anywhere from 40% down to 20% or so. Most users think that their N7 is running out of power "early" – but it seems that the 40% - 20% indication is erroneous - the battery is really at 0%, and is turning off as it should. This appears to be the caused by a software glitch that Google has to address. Doing a Factory Reset and a battery pull appears to remedy this issue for just about everyone. Please note that a corollary to this issue is the observation that once charged, the N7 remains at 100% far longer than it should.
Issue #3:
Taken out of context, having an N7 that won’t start seems like a terrible thing. But in most cases, it’s caused by Issues #1 and #2.
- If Issue #1 caused it: reconnect the loose cable, recharge your battery if needed, and you are good-to-go.
- If #2 caused it, your N7 battery is dead. Plug your N7 into the original power supply, patiently wait a few minutes then patiently hold down the power button up to 30 seconds (actually look at your watch – it’s gotta be “up to 30 seconds”!), for just about everyone reporting, it’ll start up just fine.
Since these problems are widespread, there are a number of “fixes” offered other than those above, that are somewhat anecdotal – they only “work” in one/couple instances and therefore there’s no real evidence that they are relevant. This group includes:
- Using battery calibration apps to fix the problem
- Dumping battery stats
- Uninstalling a specific " troublesome" app
Some users send their N7’s back to Google, and their new N7’s are deemed "fine". A number of knowledgeable users have speculated that most of these N7’s sent back really only suffered from the fixable issues listed above. To support this notion, some have reported that the replacements have the same “defects” as their first units, and they continue to send them back.
My experience:
My N7 worked perfectly for the first two weeks of ownership. Then it started turning off at 30% and 23%. I also noted that once I charged-up, my N7 would stay at 100% forever, leading me to believe that the battery readings were hosed-up. After these problems started, it would not go below the 30%-20% thresholds. The first time I tried to power it up - it wouldn't - and I thought is had totally borked. I tried eventually figured out that I needed to add power, wait, then hold down the power button. Worked every time.
For me, I wanted to know if I had a loose battery connector - a common problem, even though my N7 was not shutting down randomly, it was always at low battery levels. I figured that I'd just do the two things that research showed would work for sure, and would cover two different issues. I popped the back off, found that the connector as well-seated, but I pulled it off anyway to do the "battery pull". I reconnected and added a bit of electrical tape to keep it secured. I then did a Factory Reset using the option under "Settings/Backup and Reset". My N7 has been absolutely PERFECT since - just as most users report.
There is still the apparent issue of Google fixing the issue that causes the battery indication to be inaccurate.
I hope that this post serves to help others that experience these issues.
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Brand new Nexus 7 purchased today, came with 4.1 and I applied 4.2.1. Difficulties getting it powered on in the first place and lots of reboots and apparent crashes. Factory reset once and found some of those other threads you mentioned, disabled location services and that seemed to help a bit but still getting reboots. More digging and I found your post. Took your advice and pulled off the back of the Nexus 7, pulled the battery up and the connector basically fell out, it obviously wasn't seeded properly. Popped it back in properly and it's working much better now, although I'm going to give it 24 hours to make sure my issues are resolved. I just created an account in here to thank you. Think I'll stick around and see what else I can learn.
got my nexus 7 at September 2012,
got no problem with the abttery at the first charge,
but few weeks later, the battery started to die at 20% , then died at 30%, i didnt notice until i saw the battery history, it just jumped from 30% to 0%,
keep in mind that i'm not using the asus standard charger (dont know if this affect us)
tried charging it with the original charger, look like the problem is fixed, the battery died at 5%.
not sure if this is a coincidence or not
sorry for the bad English
Hazmatilda said:
Brand new Nexus 7 purchased today, came with 4.1 and I applied 4.2.1. Difficulties getting it powered on in the first place and lots of reboots and apparent crashes. Factory reset once and found some of those other threads you mentioned, disabled location services and that seemed to help a bit but still getting reboots. More digging and I found your post. Took your advice and pulled off the back of the Nexus 7, pulled the battery up and the connector basically fell out, it obviously wasn't seeded properly. Popped it back in properly and it's working much better now, although I'm going to give it 24 hours to make sure my issues are resolved. I just created an account in here to thank you. Think I'll stick around and see what else I can learn.
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Congrats!
Go enjoy your new N7!
webslasher said:
got my nexus 7 at September 2012,
got no problem with the abttery at the first charge,
but few weeks later, the battery started to die at 20% , then died at 30%, i didnt notice until i saw the battery history, it just jumped from 30% to 0%,
keep in mind that i'm not using the asus standard charger (dont know if this affect us)
tried charging it with the original charger, look like the problem is fixed, the battery died at 5%.
not sure if this is a coincidence or not
sorry for the bad English
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Have you tried the recommendations in the op?
billykxda said:
Have you tried the recommendations in the op?
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I guess you solved your issue?
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I did have issue #2. I already had fully charged over night. Battery indicator showed 100% for a while, so I figured the problem wasn't solved. What I did was shut down my N7, then hook it up to the charger, boot my N7, unhooked it from charger, played 1 level in Amazing Alex and checked battery indicator again: 99%. I hope this means I solved the problem for now
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Fotogravin said:
I did have issue #2. I already had fully charged over night. Battery indicator showed 100% for a while, so I figured the problem wasn't solved. What I did was shut down my N7, then hook it up to the charger, boot my N7, unhooked it from charger, played 1 level in Amazing Alex and checked battery indicator again: 99%. I hope this means I solved the problem for now
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Interesting. There have been reports of people addressing this problem by just turning off their N7 for a while, booting back up and all is well. Others like you added the plug/unplug charger to the mix and that seemed to work for them.
This issue has been reported to Google as well - there is a thread on Googles defect site that also lists all sorts of "fixes" that people have attributed to this issue.
Still, the only highly-repeatable fixes I've seen in various threads/forums are in the OP. But, who knows? If you can get your N7 past these issues, it's a good thing!
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Hi, you can add me to the list. My N7 often turn off itself when battery level is under 50%. I have tried everything (factory reset, flash stock image...) but problem still persists.
So i have a N7 with half battery capacity most of the time. I hope next update will fix it otherwise i'll send it to Asus.
Edit: mine just switch off at nearly 25%, i'll try to downgrade to 4.1.2 and see if it helps...
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roswell782 said:
Hi, you can add me to the list. My N7 often turn off itself when battery level is under 50%. I have tried everything (factory reset, flash stock image...) but problem still persists.
So i have a N7 with half battery capacity most of the time. I hope next update will fix it otherwise i'll send it to Asus.
Edit: mine just switch off at nearly 25%, i'll try to downgrade to 4.1.2 and see if it helps...
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Hi!
Did you try all of the suggestions in the OP?
-bk
Re: N7 Turns Off/Won't Turn Back On - A Summary...
Hi, i didn't open the battery cover because i don't want to lose my warranty, i prefer to let Asus do it for me.
My history with Asus is finished, bought 3 products from them, 3 have problems...
Btw: of course downgrade to 4.1.2 did nothing
Thanks for your answer and have a good weekend.
Cheers, Ros.
Edit: RMA asked, hope Asus will fix it.
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My N7 is driving me crazy. Bought it last year around October, and it seemed fine at first. Battery would die at around 4-5% which is acceptable. Then it started getting worse over time. At this time it was completely stock - locked and not rooted. It got to the point where it would shut itself off when it reached 40%, so I decided to factory reset, pull battery, unlock, root and install Paranoid Android, hoping this would solve (or help) the issue.
Did all my unlocking and rooting last night, installed PA, set everything up, then started reading on my N7. Device turned off at 65% now. To say that I'm disappointed is an understatement. I'm all out of ideas on what I can do to fix this thing. I charged it overnight and disconnected it from the charger 3 hours ago, and it's still at 100%, even though I've used it quite a bit. Infuriating.
ynrozturk said:
My N7 is driving me crazy. Bought it last year around October, and it seemed fine at first. Battery would die at around 4-5% which is acceptable. Then it started getting worse over time. At this time it was completely stock - locked and not rooted. It got to the point where it would shut itself off when it reached 40%, so I decided to factory reset, pull battery, unlock, root and install Paranoid Android, hoping this would solve (or help) the issue.
Did all my unlocking and rooting last night, installed PA, set everything up, then started reading on my N7. Device turned off at 65% now. To say that I'm disappointed is an understatement. I'm all out of ideas on what I can do to fix this thing. I charged it overnight and disconnected it from the charger 3 hours ago, and it's still at 100%, even though I've used it quite a bit. Infuriating.
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Sorry to hear this. This is what I'd recommend...
Take the N7 back to bone stock to reduce the number of variables. Follow my suggestions in the OP (I know you've already done them - but I'd still "do the drill" again). If this doesn't work, you can try some of the outlier suggestions that others have made that are less substantiated - why not at that point? If it's still a no-go, I'd return it. For your money, you deserve a perfect N7.
It’s been a while that I have a strange problem with my batteries. I used two different batteries, both original, charged with the original charger support for the second battery (sell in bundle with it).
It’s almost two months that my phone started to turn off suddenly when the battery level is around the 30%, with both of them. I thought it was a problem related to the batteries age, since I’m using them in the last 2 years.
I tried anyway to contain the problem. As first option, I did a battery calibration. To do this I needed to discharge all the juice from batteries. I noticed that the residual 30% that I saw before the phone turn off wasn’t a fake value: it was real.
When I turn on the phone in recovery, the battery level is exactly the same that I have when phone turn off itself. Moreover, to reach 0% of battery level I have to wait a while and I can keep the screen on (always in recovery) for about an hour. On the other hand, if I try to restart the system, the phone turns off just after the Samsung logo of starts a non-sense bootloop.
Considering what I ‘ve written above, I think that my problem it’s not an hardware problem.
Does anyone have similar problems? Do you have any suggestion to avoid it?
As supplementary information, I’m running the last Italian official firmware with TWRP and root.
same problem
I am note 4 owner for 1 week now
it is an used phone (rebuy)
original rom 6.0.1 newest updates
on delivery the batterie was on 0%
first time use it shutdown at 35%
without warning
now after multiple charging and calibration
it shutdown at 20%
in 2 days I will get new Batterie and I will check again.
maybe batterie is old
Similar issue in the last week or so with my N4. Original replacement battery, 10 month old, turning off with no warning on reaching between 20-15 % charge mostly if i try to use the camera. I've put back the original battery and seems fine for now. Ordered another battery, Anker this time, just in case
Yeah Samsung carefully crafted these batteries so that they won't work any more after six months of usage of something. Mine is nine months old, the phone itself, brand new, and mine turns off at various battery percentages, sometimes its 5, sometimes its 12, I have stopped caring and I charge whenever I get a chance.
Conclusion Faulty Battery Only
Any battery poerventage is mainly determined with help of its volatage. As battery discharges this voltage also reduces. As battery grow older, we is gradually unable to handle the load as it used to when new one. Also battery life is determined by its charging and discharging cycles. It was all about basic. Now talking about note 4, being andriod fone and requres lot of battery so we usually charge it for 2 times depending on use.
The same problem was faced by me as well for note 4 at 30% it used to reboot all of sudden and thereafter bool loop (in actuality it is not as battery deoesnt handle load and it again starts to boot so no home screen). Replaced the battery with original one a month ago and now issue till date and fone lasts below 5 to 10% with 4G on and doing browsing.
So it is concluded for sure that battery problem.
Weird thing last night i experienced the same issue! And my phone is only 8 month old, i think this issue it's related to Samsung updates.. my phone did shut down in exactly 30% and started to go in bootloop i removed the battery and put it back and still the same i was about to factory reset my device for god sake ? luckily i did connect my charger before i factory reset my phone i gave it one last try and it did boot normally.
So i am not really sure what is going on.. no more updates for me unless it's a major changes
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Happened to me too. I think it's the battery, I tried several batteries, some cause sudden power off some doesn't.
I'm upping my thread after two months to say that I solved my battery problem changing them. I bought a new one from Samsung official store and now I'm able to do more than 4 hours of SOT and charge phone once in two days (Red Dragon Note 7 porting). Before to change, I was not able to use any Sammy ROMs, due to several reboots and disgraceful battery life.
I don't know if the battery is the guilty for everyone's problems, but I really suggest to try to change it. Just, be sure to buy an original one, because there are a lot of genuine clones, especially on e-commerce sites.
For what regards the problem itself, I think that the cause could be the use of a different charger (Samsung, but for an earphone), coupled with the extra battery kit. Unfortunately the original adaptive fast charger stopped to work a month after the phone arrived and I didn't bother about it.
So, I also suggest to use only the original cables to charge the device.
I hope that this testimony will help someone with the same problem and, at same time, I also hope that Samsung will consider to use again removable batteries to give people the opportunity to do what I did.
Hello all,
Recently, since about a week, i've been experiencing sudden random reboots. Often when starting apps (especially the Camera is a real culprit here, but also Google Photo's). When entering pin-code all seems fine again. and sometimes i can just use the camera like normal. But sometimes it keeps rebooting and the only way to stop it is to quickly turn off battery saver (seems a solution till now for a while)
Searching online didn't really help much, as i found a few people with the same issue end of march also on Oreo update, but no solution yet.
Also the battery indicator seems off. it often drains reaallly slow (85% at the end of the day) and then at a random percentage (like 60%) just turns off. When turning it back on it only has 3%. So it could be battery related.
What i tried:
- Let the phone drain completely, then recharge to 100% overnight.
- Remove all apps installed in the last few weeks + all unnecessary apps.
I don't want to do a factory reset, because our IT then has to set up the Authenticator again which is a pain for them (and i already had them do that a few weeks ago :angel: )
Any tips on how to troubleshoot some more or more people seeing this behaviour?
tharealmb said:
Hello all,
Recently, since about a week, i've been experiencing sudden random reboots. Often when starting apps (especially the Camera is a real culprit here, but also Google Photo's). When entering pin-code all seems fine again. and sometimes i can just use the camera like normal. But sometimes it keeps rebooting and the only way to stop it is to quickly turn off battery saver (seems a solution till now for a while)
Searching online didn't really help much, as i found a few people with the same issue end of march also on Oreo update, but no solution yet.
Also the battery indicator seems off. it often drains reaallly slow (85% at the end of the day) and then at a random percentage (like 60%) just turns off. When turning it back on it only has 3%. So it could be battery related.
What i tried:
- Let the phone drain completely, then recharge to 100% overnight.
- Remove all apps installed in the last few weeks + all unnecessary apps.
I don't want to do a factory reset, because our IT then has to set up the Authenticator again which is a pain for them (and i already had them do that a few weeks ago :angel: )
Any tips on how to troubleshoot some more or more people seeing this behaviour?
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That sounds kind of like a battery that's failing.
What's the age of the phone? And did you primarily use Huawei's supercharge brick or other methods / chargers? (I ask the second, because charging at 4.5A can be bad for the battery on a regular basis.)
I'd load up something like Ampere and watch the charge / discharge rates. I'd expect a normal discharge rate around 150-350mA, but it depends a lot on what you're doing. (GPS and moderate graphics will keep it up in the 800mA-1A discharge range, the rear camera with just the viewfinder seems to push 1.2A current draw.)
I'll give Ampère a try. I used both chargers but the phone is just over a year old. Nothing to warrant a bad battery already.
Besides that, recent discoveries lead to believe slow charging could actually cause more heat and be worse for battery. But again: it's a bit soon for something like that I think. I'll try Ampère first. But i doubt that's the issue.
I've noticed my phone gets toasty when fast charging. If it's hooked up to any charger other than Huawei's, it tends to stay cool.
And it happened again. More then 50 percent and then it turned off and only had 3 percent
Dead battery I guess?
tharealmb said:
And it happened again. More then 50 percent and then it turned off and only had 3 percent
Dead battery I guess?
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That's what it looks like to me.
Fortunately, the batteries aren't that expensive to find (Google popped up a bunch for <$20), and actually getting in isn't too difficult either, if you want to swap it yourself.
Just to close this topic properly:
The issue got worse, but i was on holiday. Ordered a new battery with a toolkit to replace the battery for 30 euro's.
When i got back from my holiday i notices the battery had already pushed the screen loose. So getting the screen off was easy. Swapped the battery in just 5 minutes and now everything is working great again. The screen used to have some bright spots and those are gone aswell. I guess it was a giveaway of things to come.
Thanks for the help!