Sony XAV-AX200 Tips, Quirks, Etc. - Android Head-Units

I installed the Sony XAV-AX200 system in my vehicle a few days ago. Coming from a very traditional car stereo that was not smart in any way, that only did CD, radio, and mp3, this is a very different experience. I've been learning the quirks of this system, and I thought that perhaps if I organized my observations here, it might benefit someone thinking of this system. Feel free to add, answer questions, etc. I intend to update/add as I observe more.
This was installed in a 2004 vehicle with no "smart" anything, no steering wheel controls, nada. My unit has been flashed to the firmware version 1.01, published May 10, 2018, available at the Sony support page.
The Good:
Sounds great
Works well with factory Pioneer amp/speakers/subwoofer.
Decent radio reception
Plays FLAC and mp3 files from usb flash drive
Works with both Android Auto and Car Play
Real volume knob and forward/back buttons
The Quirks:
There is no power button. There is no way to turn this system off. Has anyone ever wired a switch into the power line, to give them a way to actually turn these "smart" stereos off? I'm considering it.
If you do not manually go into a menu, then select to turn off current source, before you turn off the ignition, whatever you had playing last time will auto play when you start the car. There seems to be no way to disable this obnoxious behavior. You just get blasted with whatever, when you turn on the key.
Mp3 and flac files only play from your phone or from a usb flash drive. They will not play from a CD-R disc. This is truly bizarre.
Tips:
Works with a USB 3.0 hub, with a few caveats. I have a small Targus USB 3 hub plugged into the port on the back of the unit, and then two dash ports plugged into the hub. Either a flash drive (full of FLAC files so far) or my Android phone will work if plugged into either dash-mounted port.
However, if you have a flash drive that is hooked up through the hub, playing music, and then you also plug in your Android phone through the hub, Android Auto takes over.
While the music you have already playing from the flash drive will keep playing in the background, and indeed further music files in the folder keep playing (if you don't start playing something from your phone), you lose all access to control the music.
The USB icon disappears from the home screen as long as your Android phone is plugged in.
While the music from the flash drive will keep playing indefinitely (if you don't play media from your phone) when you unplug your phone, the music from the flash drive will stop until you tap the "USB" icon on your home screen, and it will not resume from where it was, but will start at the beginning of the drive, alphabetically.
Album art does work, but you must turn it on in the settings on the unit. Album art displays as a background image while music is playing from a usb drive.
At least on the FLAC files I've been playing, album art only seems to work if it is 400x400 pixels in size or smaller, and is embedded into the file's tags. folder.jpg files in the album folders are ignored, and larger embedded images are also not displayed on the unit.
I had some albums in FLAC format that would not play. This turned to be due to the way they were saved. I had to open them in an audio editing app and export them as 96 kHz, 24 bits files, which is the max this unit can play.

XAV-AX200 and Android 9 Pie
EDIT: This only fixed it on the first call. On subsequent calls, it doesn't help.
FYI, in case someone else experiences this: After my phone (Essential Ph-1) updated to Android 9, Pie, the next time I connected to my XAV-AX200 via Bluetooth, while talking on the phone, there was horrible roar of feedback every time the phone call was routed through the stereo by Bluetooth. I solved this problem by turning the microphone gain from medium to low on the stereo. Hope this helps someone else.

Hi, thank you for sharing, but you better search for the Sony XAV-100 and XAV-200 threads in the android Auto forums and specifically for posts of Superdavex who made all kind of improvements. See also his github repository: https://github.com/superdavex/Sony-XAV-AX100
I guess you find more owners and info there.

To power off the unit, long press (a second or two) on the top left button.

admrusty said:
To power off the unit, long press (a second or two) on the top left button.
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That does not work on the XAV-AX200. It does work on the XAV-AX100.

celticchrys said:
Mp3 and flac files only play from your phone or from a usb flash drive. They will not play from a CD-R disc. This is truly bizarre.
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Not really strange, if you think of this unit as a tablet stuck to the front of a basic CD player.
The CD player plays CD audio, the tablet has no access to the disc, it just changes the audio input when needed.

Yes, it is very strange. My last several very cheap car stereos could do this simple task. If Sony was capable of playing mp3 cdr discs for the last 20 years, they should still be able to do so.

thanks for your tips and information about it.

Help with XAV-AX200 please. Keeps rebooting when connect phone.
I bought is on eBay and updated the firmware to the latest. EVERY TIME I hook up my phone to the USB, it keeps rebooting the unit. I have tried Note 8, Note 4, and iPhone 6. Any ideas short of returning it? I have the unit out on a table to test it using a power supply at 12v. Works fine until connect a phone to the short usb in the back. I have the red/yellow on 12v and the black grounded to the unit.
Todd

admrusty said:
To power off the unit, long press (a second or two) on the top left button.
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I have XAV-AX200C2 and the power off function as is stated here works for me.

Related

random play music player problem.

i only use two music apps, one is the standard htc one because of the lock screen widget, and the other is 3 (cubed) for the home widget and the beautifulness of the app.
but the both seem to suffer the same problem when playing songs in random mode..
its rubbish. some songs get repeated over and over again, the standard htc app is worse i think. it has even played the same track right after! its a nightmare skipping through tracks to find the tune you want on random, you can be skipping for ages, the song you want wont come up, but it will repeat other songs over and over again! i only have about 20 songs in the playlist!
i dont want to fiddle around with it too much while im driving its dangerous..
htc music app is poor they need to fix it.
cubed is still beta and i already like it better than the htc one.
but they need to fix this..
has anybody found this on other music apps too?
anyone?????
Hey
I might had a similar problem with my Desire. When I plugged in the earphones, the music would start to randomly start playing, skipping songs and just act totally random. You dont specify if this happens only when you plugged them into your phone or not, but I will just think it is.
If you have the same problem as me, the little headphone icon in the top screen, will show that you also have a mic connected. It might not show immediately when you plug it into your phone, but when it starts skipping songs etc check if that icon is there with the mic. So it would look like the sensors sensoring if it has a mic etc is a bit "sketchy".
I found this thread on this other forum with people getting the same problems, and this one guy came with several possible solutions.
SOLUTIONS
1. Break in the 3.5mm jack in the Desire. I found that after I'd plugged and unplugged various 3.5mm cables from the Desire about 100 times, the problem mostly went away. I now only have 1 PC connector cable that will regularly show the headset – all of my other 3.5mm headphones and cables now work every time.
2. Get a different cable. If your goal is to hook up to a car stereo or dock via line in, just try some different 3.5mm male-male cables. I had 4. Two worked from the get-go and two failed (thanks auMouth for the idea to try different ones), but now (after break-in) a third one works consistently and the fourth is about 50/50 (so obviously I just won't use that one). The first 2 cables worked 100% of the time so obviously I can just use those for my desire and save the others for PCs.
3. If you LOVE your headphones and they still fail: theoretically you could solve this with an extension cable or a male/female adapter or Y splitter which the phone likes. The issue is the 3.5mm connector itself making the Desire unhappy – so if you can find an extension cable or adapter that shows as headphones when stuck in your Desire, you could hook your headphones to that and they will work. You don't even need the headphones to test whether the cable or adapter is good before you buy, just plug the cable or adapter in a few times and if you get headphones icon every time with no headsets you should be golden.
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His first solution worked for me, after I had plugged and unplugged the cable like 20-30 times (guess it depends on how many times you've plugged it in before) it worked. I've not had a problem with it skipping since and it has never shown the icon with a mic again. Hope this helps.
supasye said:
i only use two music apps, one is the standard htc one because of the lock screen widget, and the other is 3 (cubed) for the home widget and the beautifulness of the app.
but the both seem to suffer the same problem when playing songs in random mode..
its rubbish. some songs get repeated over and over again, the standard htc app is worse i think. it has even played the same track right after! its a nightmare skipping through tracks to find the tune you want on random, you can be skipping for ages, the song you want wont come up, but it will repeat other songs over and over again! i only have about 20 songs in the playlist!
i dont want to fiddle around with it too much while im driving its dangerous..
htc music app is poor they need to fix it.
cubed is still beta and i already like it better than the htc one.
but they need to fix this..
has anybody found this on other music apps too?
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I TOTALLY agree! I am dead tired of listening to the same tracks again and again and again! I use 3 cubed player, but the only reason I use it is that it has the lockscreen widget. Haven't found a solution to it yet. I need the lockscreen widget, so I can't even use any other player. It is quite frustrating to say the least.
Weird.
Two things:
1. My Desire stock player has controls on the lock screen.
2. Its a strange criticism to say that it doesn't play the specific song you want, when chosen the play mode as random - maybe don't use random if you want a particular track??? The randomisation is pretty poor though, I'll grant you that.
NZtechfreak said:
Weird.
Two things:
1. My Desire stock player has controls on the lock screen.
2. Its a strange criticism to say that it doesn't play the specific song you want, when chosen the play mode as random - maybe don't use random if you want a particular track??? The randomisation is pretty poor though, I'll grant you that.
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The two things you have mentioned are fine. The Desire stock player does have controls on the screen, and nobody's looking for the player to play a specific song when in the shuffle mode. It is just that the shuffle of the player is really pathetic. It keeps playing the same sets of songs over and over again. And that is the cause of irritation.
same here with my legend.in shuffle playing same songs.
Do all players have the same poor shuffle problem or is it just 3 and htc stock?
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I think basically we're discussing here two problems:
1) The problem with non-htc earphones and "random" skipping of tracks. Some people even thought they have "shake to shuffle" (from iphone) on their desire.
2) The "random" Algorithm of Android is very very bad implemented. Or the Algorithm wich gives random numbers is very very bad.
This problem is seen in nearly every htc phone (never had another android phone in hands, so i don't know), i had it with hero and desire.
The problem is, that if you skip often in random tracks your tracks don't feel as been played random because some tracks are just repeated after 5 songs again and again.
For example:
-track you listen to- -> -rt1- -> -rt2- -> -rt3- -> -rt1- -> -rt4- -> -rt5- -> -rt1- -> -rt7- -> -rt8- -> -rt1- -> -rt2- -> and so on.
-> means a "skip"-operation
-rt1- means random track 1 (see it as a variable for ex.)
That happens when you skip very often in random mode.
And i think that this one was ment by the autor of the first post.
I had this problem with hero and desire and every firmware and i hate it.
I really want a solution for this.
Could someone test if the nexus does also show this behaviour?
For example i have about 300-400 mp3s. This behaviour is not "random". You shouldn't see a song repeated after 5 tracks again. And this happens often!
Sry for my english, i am not a native speaker.
Best Regards
U explained in perfectly in number 2.. it is really bad.. cnt remember it happening on my touch hd though.
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Going a little bit OT here, but how do you guys get a random mode in cubed, do you just put all the artists in the plaing queue or is there a 'play all' button, because i've been looking for cubed's play all button for a long time.
Just press play on a song it will play all. Random is between play and skip track on the top of the app.
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sync currently playing song with cloud to device messaging

Picture this: you're out and about listening to a song on your phone, and when you return to your computer you hit a button and playback continues on your computer right from where you left off. Or the reverse where you're listening to a song on your computer and shift it to your phone as you head out the door.
I doubt this currently exists but it seems like something that could be implemented with the new cloud messaging service in 2.2. It seems like you would need a plugin for the music player on your computer, but basically I'm imagining a system where the touch of a button pauses playback on the current device, transmits the file name and position to the corresponding device, and then starts playback.
Am I dreaming too big here?

Let's talk about music streaming from the cloud (i.e. box.com)

So, I followed suit with alot of you and got my 50gb of storage from box.com....which is freaking awesome because I use box to share study guides and old tests with my pharmacy school colleagues anyway...
And now I'm trying to make the best use of it. The 100mb limit or whatever basically limits me to music, which is FINE. When I'm driving or studying THAT'S when I want to stream my techno/trance/electronic music, BUT
1) the stupid xperia car dock. everytime I plug in my phone to my car charger it thinks its in a dock, which is probably the most annoying thing on the planet. Especially because its so obnoxious it stays LOCKED like that forever afterwards
2) ok BESIDES the car dock issue, the 3G streaming for box: HOW do you keep the music playing/buffering/loading AFTER your screen turns off? I know this is an elusive question from doing alot of googling but does anyone have a fix?
its so weird because the FIRST time I stream off the box: I load up song, it begins, I put phone down, screen turns off 30 sec later, song keeps playing
but after that first time, everything goes to crap: I load up song, it begins, as soon as screen turns off it plays whatever few seconds it had buffered then STOPS. if i turn screen back on it BACKS out of the music player and back to ES media player (is this what you guys are using to stream off the box?)
so is the only real solution to the crappy functionality of box.com media streaming to FORCE the screen to STAY on and then I guess plug in charger so your phone doesn't hemorrhage itself to death?
I'm working on getting a Tversity media server all set up and that will be nice, but even for the times my computer isn't set up with my router and such, it'd be nice to have a solid 50GB in the cloud to stream some music for those long car rides...

Why does my media volume keep going on mute?

Several months ago I purchased a car with bluetooth and Android Auto, never had either before, which may or may not actual be related., but it seems like since them I have had my media volume muted all the time.
Every time I go to play a Youtube video or play or stream a song in an app, my media volume is muted. I have to press Vol Up once, then the volume is instantly restored to it's previous level.
Anyway to get around this? It seems related to the car because when I get in it and it synchs with BT, I can see the media volume bar pop-up and it's muted but I am not sure if it's getting muted at that point or already is but it seems odd that would pop up every time I would sync to the car. Or is this just normal behaviour?
The car is a 2018 Hyundai Sonata if that matters, and my phone is a bone stock Moto G5+ 4/64 model.
Nobody? Hmm... Must just be something weird on my end then.
acejavelin said:
Several months ago I purchased a car with bluetooth and Android Auto, never had either before, which may or may not actual be related., but it seems like since them I have had my media volume muted all the time.
Every time I go to play a Youtube video or play or stream a song in an app, my media volume is muted. I have to press Vol Up once, then the volume is instantly restored to it's previous level.
Anyway to get around this? It seems related to the car because when I get in it and it synchs with BT, I can see the media volume bar pop-up and it's muted but I am not sure if it's getting muted at that point or already is but it seems odd that would pop up every time I would sync to the car. Or is this just normal behaviour?
The car is a 2018 Hyundai Sonata if that matters, and my phone is a bone stock Moto G5+ 4/64 model.
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Have you tried checking the car's system? Pretty sure it's something to with the car and not your phone as you mentioned it only happens when your phone syncs with the car. Maybe you missed a setting somewhere in the car that has to do with the sync or connection and the events that follow. Just a suggestion. I don't have a car with Bluetooth or Android Auto though

A2DP Mode?

I have an Atoto S8 G2 and I use a lot of bluetooth streaming from my phone for things like podcasts.
I used to have a more basic touchscreen bluetooth head unit that showed the name of the track, artist, etc, all while sitting on a home screen with the clock and a moving line that showed the playback position in the track/file/song/etc, as well as minute/second marker. This was useful because I could press-and-hold ff or rew to move along inside whatever I'm listening to, much like an old school CD player.
I'm a little bit disappointed at how my Android unit handles bluetooth streaming. The screen just shows the track name and artist name, and then a HUGE MOVING DISTRACTING OSCILLOSCOPE STYLE DANCING BARS. I'm including a picture to illustrate. It's ugly and annoying, and there is no indication of where I'm up to in the track/title, nor is there a way to move the position around with buttons or any other methods. If I don't like looking at that dancing line of audio levels, I can press home but then it doesn't show me anything at all. I'd like to glance at which part of a lecture or book series etc I'm in before I shut off the car. It's silly the way it looks, there must be a better way! Is this how all Android head units handle Bluetooth A2DP / streaming, or just Atoto?
Also, if I use Android Auto (plug in, etc) and then disconnect it, it doesn't go back to Bluetooth mode. I understand if I switch sources to radio or something else, it shouldn't go back. But if I plugged in my phone, then next time I get in my car and decide I don't need AA, but I'm wondering why there's no sound coming out... it's because I'm still in AA mode!! Is there a way to automatically go back to the last mode when AA / Carplay finishes a session, much like a phone call would go back?

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