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Hi everyone. I managed to get my hands on a beautiful blue I9505, had some issues while SIM unlocking it, but that's done and I am enjoying the phone very much.
Now, I do have a problem with it. The thing is, it simply will NOT go to deep sleep. Constantly hovering on 384 MHz with msm_hsic_host using a massive 90+ percent of awake time. It is driving me nuts. Our colleagues and friends over at Nexus 4 forums had an identical issue, and I read 57 pages of posts and used all their tips and tricks. Nothing helped.
Attached to this post you can see:
- the original Nexus 4 forum topic - [Q] msm_hsic_host - Nexus 4 forums
- The Google Code page where people complained about this - Google Code - Issue 41855 - "msm_hsic_wakelock" process on Nexus 4 causes severe battery drain
- my battery usage and BBS stats - attached to this post
- Qualcomm's fix for the issue - link 1 and link 2 at Code Aurora
I can't make heads or tails of any of this. The only thing that remains to do today (which I will do) is to flash a custom ROM and kernel for my I9505.
Thanks to anyone who will chime in to this discussion.
Bump - nobody else has this problem? Can you at least share your configurations so I can experiment a bit?
robogo1982 said:
Bump - nobody else has this problem? Can you at least share your configurations so I can experiment a bit?
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99% chance that some app you installed is causing the wakelock. Install BetterBatteryStatts to determine wich app causes deep sleep/wakelock issues.
gee2012 said:
99% chance that some app you installed is causing the wakelock. Install BetterBatteryStatts to determine wich app causes deep sleep/wakelock issues.
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I do have BBS as can be seen on the screenshots. I can't find the culprit since I believe it's the system itself.
I had this problem and it turned out to be avg pro app keeping it awake
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steveharris87 said:
I had this problem and it turned out to be avg pro app keeping it awake
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I don't have such an app. Wakelock detector reports no odd stuff.
robogo1982 said:
I don't have such an app. Wakelock detector reports no odd stuff.
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Wakelock couldnt find anything on mine either I just had a feeling it was that app so I removed it and it started going in to deepsleep I also had a problem with maps keeping my phone awake.
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robogo1982 said:
I don't have such an app. Wakelock detector reports no odd stuff.
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clear dalvik cache and see again if it does enter Deep sleep or not, as everyone said its an application if not it must be a setting like sync, scan, or even that damn old wifi advanced settings that kept usual phones awake... reconfigure.
Insomnia
My phone won't sleep, won't time out and tapping the power button won't shut off the display. This happened just after deleting bootsamsung.qng, samsungloop.qng and shutdown.qng.
I'd replace the three deleted files, but they just grew and replaced themselves minus the carrier logo. The Baseband version now says: unknown. I stopped and installed google maps, that didn't help.
The good news is, those pink blocks are gone. The bad, I did a factory reset and noticed my cell network connectivity is gone. Maybe that's the sloppy work cutting down the SIM, or maybe something else? I've reinserted that sucker a dozen times and no joy. Do you know if the phone will stay awake without cell service? Putting it in airplane mode doesn't help.
Any suggestions? Thanks for your consideration.
Build number: JDQ39.I9505XXUAMDC
REVERSiN said:
clear dalvik cache and see again if it does enter Deep sleep or not, as everyone said its an application if not it must be a setting like sync, scan, or even that damn old wifi advanced settings that kept usual phones awake... reconfigure.
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Cleared Dalvik, will keep an eye out (though I don't know how can it help)...
Wiping Dalvik did not help. I will try a factory reset later this afternoon and let the phone be for an hour or so without any apps installed.
robogo1982 said:
Wiping Dalvik did not help. I will try a factory reset later this afternoon and let the phone be for an hour or so without any apps installed.
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Same problem here, my msm_hsic_host accounts for ~99% of the wakelocks according to BBS, even when the phone is in airplane mode and Wifi is off.
I'm running stock MDC firmware & kernel, rooted though.
fizzefazze said:
Same problem here, my msm_hsic_host accounts for ~99% of the wakelocks according to BBS, even when the phone is in airplane mode and Wifi is off.
I'm running stock MDC firmware & kernel, rooted though.
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Read this about the wakelock, has to do with bad/lower 3g connections:
http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j...3jjunrjohBvz3zaNvrYSO5g&bvm=bv.46751780,d.d2k
Thanks for the link.
This seems to be a logical explanation, but I've disabled 3G, and it still happens.
Plus it happens when in airplane mode, without any (cell) activity. I'm pretty sure that the kernel isn't configured properly.
Is there a known kernel / stock firmware version where this problem is fixed?
It appears that I have solved my problem.
I reset the device to factory settings and then restored apps, 5 by 5 in 30 min intervals. I still haven't restored all my apps, but so far I restored some 80%, here is the current state of things.
Very interesting.
Please keep us posted once you find out which app caused the problems, or if the factory reset fixed it.
Did you freeze or uninstall any apps?
Did you remove the T-Mobile bloatware?
fizzefazze said:
Very interesting.
Please keep us posted once you find out which app caused the problems, or if the factory reset fixed it.
Did you freeze or uninstall any apps?
Did you remove the T-Mobile bloatware?
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I froze the same apps I had frozen before. If I find the app that caused the problems, I will report back. So far it's all good, 6h of use and I'm at 87% battery, wifi and 3G always on
P.S. I have Wanam's 1.0 installed
EDIT: 22h30 min, 2h4min screen on time, 48% battery.
I'd say that's an okay result.
robogo1982 said:
I froze the same apps I had frozen before. If I find the app that caused the problems, I will report back. So far it's all good, 6h of use and I'm at 87% battery, wifi and 3G always on
P.S. I have Wanam's 1.0 installed
EDIT: 22h30 min, 2h4min screen on time, 48% battery.
I'd say that's an okay result.
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What app was the problem?
I have a problem with this wakelock, use about 10-25% of battery time
Napalm Candy said:
What app was the problem?
I have a problem with this wakelock, use about 10-25% of battery time
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You know what, I can't really say. Since the factory reset I restored all my apps and never had the problem since. Really weird issue. 25% can be bad. I had 99.4%
robogo1982 said:
You know what, I can't really say. Since the factory reset I restored all my apps and never had the problem since. Really weird issue. 25% can be bad. I had 99.4%
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So, if I give you my app list, can you identificate what you used before wipe?
Maybe can will know what apps are potentially to reproduce the problem
In the past few days out of nowhere I've noticed a massive amount of battery life attributed to Google Services. I checked on better battery stats and the wakelocks are coming from process: NLPWakeLock.
I've searched on the net and several forums, and I'm getting very mixed info. The majority of the info points to Google Now as being the culprit, and that it's somehow related to 4.3. I actually really like Google Now and would hate to disable it. It's odd because I've had the phone a few weeks and Google Now was always enabled, but only now these wakelocks are starting to show up.
Does anyone have any further info on this? Could it be something else? I've already frozen so many things in TiBu I'm losing track!
TIA!
I'd like to just confirm in case anyone else was having this issue - it was in fact Google now.
siciliano777 said:
I'd like to just confirm in case anyone else was having this issue - it was in fact Google now.
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So did you just freeze Now? I'm having the exact same issue -- was working fine until just recently (I think 3 days or so ago) when I started getting many wakelocks from NLPCollectorWakeLock and NLPWakeLock. I also like using Now and don't want to disable it if I can avoid it. I did find a thread in the G2 forums with a possible solution: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2453850
Basically, he deleted GooglePlayServices using Titanium, then reinstalled directly from the market and found that fixed his issue. So I just deleted it (phone auto rebooted after doing so), then got a notification saying Maps request an update of Play Services which I got from the market. Rebooting now, will keep an eye on the wakelocks and let you know how it goes.
I didn't freeze it, I just turned it off within Google now settings. I'd like to keep it on too, but it def helped battery life.
Let me know if that method you used works.
Thanks!
So, I've been having some battery issues lately and I can't really tell why. I haven't been doing anything too extreme, but my battery is almost dead within 12 hours of a charge, and the highest usage is mostly the Kernel and/or OS. I know next to nothing about that side of things, so I exported reports from GSam, and I'm hoping someone will be able to translate them for me if there's an obvious problem. Thanks in advance!
(I've also uninstalled Boxer, I only had it because Pro was free yesterday.)
greycobalt said:
So, I've been having some battery issues lately and I can't really tell why. I haven't been doing anything too extreme, but my battery is almost dead within 12 hours of a charge, and the highest usage is mostly the Kernel and/or OS. I know next to nothing about that side of things, so I exported reports from GSam, and I'm hoping someone will be able to translate them for me if there's an obvious problem. Thanks in advance!
(I've also uninstalled Boxer, I only had it because Pro was free yesterday.)
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Keep the location enabled.
Are you using any of the smart stay/air view etc. controls?
If not turn them ALL off.
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Keep the location enabled.
Are you using any of the smart stay/air view etc. controls?
If not turn them ALL off.
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As far as I know, location is always turned on (meaning I never turn it off myself). One of the first things I did was turn off all the smart crap, and turn off every piece of bloatware I could in the settings (I'm not rooted).
When was the last time that your phone was restarted?
mirror3d said:
When was the last time that your phone was restarted?
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I usually restart it every other day, give or take. It's gone a couple days without it before. I don't usually have it off for more than a couple minutes at a time though.
greycobalt said:
I usually restart it every other day, give or take. It's gone a couple days without it before. I don't usually have it off for more than a couple minutes at a time though.
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This is beginning to sound much more complicated.
Did you install any apps recently?
How old is the phone?
Also do you have data/wifi on all the time?
mirror3d said:
This is beginning to sound much more complicated.
Did you install any apps recently?
How old is the phone?
Also do you have data/wifi on all the time?
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That's not good. :-/
I install apps often, but I just as often uninstall them...I guess that's not much help. If it was one of them though, wouldn't it show up under the battery log?
It's approaching a year old, I got it last November I believe.
Yes, I keep my Wifi and data on all the time.
Bad network will drain your battery. Check how the signal is.
Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
ShadowLea said:
Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
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Stated in reply post that the phone is not rooted.
My advice will be to uninstall apps one at time to find the one causing the drain.
ddogishere said:
Stated in reply post that the phone is not rooted.
My advice will be to uninstall apps one at time to find the one causing the drain.
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And neither is mine. Wakelock detector still works in the tab that shows Deep Sleep vs Awake. As I said by 'Everything else requires root, but that still works'.
Cundis said:
Bad network will drain your battery. Check how the signal is.
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That varies. At home, I have great signal (full-signal 4G, router is never more than 20 feet away). Some places in town, I can drop to 3G, especially my grandparents (although my grandma does have a router I'm connected to). There's a weird (unrelated?) bug where if I drop to 3G, I either have to turn airplane mode on or wait several hours until it reverts back to 4G, even though I'll be back in a verified 4G area.
ShadowLea said:
Android OS and Kernel are normal between 12-25% on 4.4.2. It's an issue with the battery reporting.
It looks like you've got a wakelock. 12% per hour means it's not going into deep sleep.
Check Wakelock Detector to see if it's going into deep sleep or not. (It needs root for everything else, but that still works.)
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I will definitely check that out and use it tonight. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll get back to you on what it says. What generally causes the wakelocks, specific apps? Or just poorly set-up preferences?
greycobalt said:
I will definitely check that out and use it tonight. Thanks for the suggestion. I'll get back to you on what it says. What generally causes the wakelocks, specific apps? Or just poorly set-up preferences?
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Usually apps. Facebook, Skype, some games. Although Mediascanner(Android process) is also known to be responsible for it quite often.
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ShadowLea said:
Usually apps. Facebook, Skype, some games. Although Mediascanner(Android process) is also known to be responsible for it quite often.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2
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It looks like PayPal was one of the culprits? For some reason?
I did find out I could root extremely easily, so did so and downloaded Greenify, so I'm hoping I can tweak enough to get my battery life back.
greycobalt said:
It looks like PayPal was one of the culprits? For some reason?
I did find out I could root extremely easily, so did so and downloaded Greenify, so I'm hoping I can tweak enough to get my battery life back.
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That does seem to be the case... Either uninstall paypal or drop it in the Greenify list.
Google Search is probably either the widget or you're using Google Now.
ShadowLea said:
That does seem to be the case... Either uninstall paypal or drop it in the Greenify list.
Google Search is probably either the widget or you're using Google Now.
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By widget, do you mean the search bar? I use Nova, and I've removed that, so it must be Google Now. I don't use it often, but it does leave me weather cards and shipping info, so would that be it?
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By widget, do you mean the search bar? I use Nova, and I've removed that, so it must be Google Now. I don't use it often, but it does leave me weather cards and shipping info, so would that be it?
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I don't think they're related, but I can't be a hundred percent sure. You can try disabling both Google Search ones under apps -> all, see what that does to the info updates. If it scrambles them, just turn them back on.
(There's two Google Search, one is the search bar, the other is the app related to it.)
With that and Paypal dealt with, battery life should improve significantly.
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I don't think they're related, but I can't be a hundred percent sure. You can try disabling both Google Search ones under apps -> all, see what that does to the info updates. If it scrambles them, just turn them back on.
(There's two Google Search, one is the search bar, the other is the app related to it.)
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Awesome! I'll try it out today, and then get back to you again. Thanks for all your help, it's much appreciated!
greycobalt said:
Awesome! I'll try it out today, and then get back to you again. Thanks for all your help, it's much appreciated!
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Happy to help Let's hope that solves it! Also don't forget to greenify Paypal (Or uninstall it if you don't need it), as that seems to be the main culprit.
Hey, I am testing stock EU 6.0 battery life, for now not so good, DOZE doesn't do anything for me, same %/h as on lollipop, but questions is another. On Amplify I noticed "ICING" wakelock. It stands for Google Play Services and have some business with SMS. I cant find what causes to start this wakelock, but on stock 5.1.1 this wakelock had smaller wakeup time. Maybe someone can explain me? Why does this shows up?
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Hey, I am testing stock EU 6.0 battery life, for now not so good, DOZE doesn't do anything for me, same %/h as on lollipop, but questions is another. On Amplify I noticed "ICING" wakelock. It stands for Google Play Services and have some business with SMS. I cant find what causes to start this wakelock, but on stock 5.1.1 this wakelock had smaller wakeup time. Maybe someone can explain me? Why does this shows up?
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I always wondered this also. Amplify shows a lot of wakelocks but don't know enough about how to use app properly other than limiting the safe to limit wakelocks maybe change default 240 seconds to a greater number. Wonder what ill effects this has. I know I tried screwing with the alarms wakelocks and had issues.
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I always wondered this also. Amplify shows a lot of wakelocks but don't know enough about how to use app properly other than limiting the safe to limit wakelocks maybe change default 240 seconds to a greater number. Wonder what ill effects this has. I know I tried screwing with the alarms wakelocks and had issues.
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You can limit icing wakelock (I did) I set like 14240 seconds
I could never do anything to stop com.android.gms wakelocks but I finally managed too. I had over 800 wakelocks on full battery today I had 11
Don't worry about it. Icing barely effects battery.
slicetwo said:
Don't worry about it. Icing barely effects battery.
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I am not sure, but will agree with you, but I cant figure out what does this wakelock to appear, why on lollipop I havent this issue?
Hello, there is a problem with the phone, the idle battery drain is too high, something is keeping it awake.
I've attached the screenshots of battery stats.
My mother is using the phone, so I don't have it with me all the time.
Any help is much appreciated!
adsubzero said:
Hello, there is a problem with the phone, the idle battery drain is too high, something is keeping it awake.
I've attached the screenshots of battery stats.
My mother is using the phone, so I don't have it with me all the time.
Any help is much appreciated!
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Well Android system has lots of packages, check what packages are activated that includes ones in notification bar, GPS, NFC, Backup, Bluetooth, etc. They all absorb power at some point if they are always on it can drain the battery power. Also go to Settings / Autostart and check what packages are enabled to autostart.
hwandroid said:
Well Android system has lots of packages, check what packages are activated that includes ones in notification bar, GPS, NFC, Backup, Bluetooth, etc. They all absorb power at some point if they are always on it can drain the battery power. Also go to Settings / Autostart and check what packages are enabled to autostart.
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This was with mobile data mostly disabled, and gps was not used heavily, as you can see from the screenshot.
I'll get back when I get more info.
Btw what I forgot to mention, the phone is brand new, like it was freshly set up a couple of days ago, and the baterry was bad since the first day.
She doesn't have a lot of apps, so it's really weird to see this battery drain.
What should I be looking for in the autostart settings?
adsubzero said:
This was with mobile data mostly disabled, and gps was not used heavily, as you can see from the screenshot.
I'll get back when I get more info.
Btw what I forgot to mention, the phone is brand new, like it was freshly set up a couple of days ago, and the baterry was bad since the first day.
She doesn't have a lot of apps, so it's really weird to see this battery drain.
What should I be looking for in the autostart settings?
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It says Android system 34% that is too much, if you click on Android system it will list you the services and more info on power drain. For example on my device Android system does not go higher 15% usually, I have disabled autostart for the apps and services I don't really need to be running in background.
You can debloat the ROM by using xiaomi adb tools, no root needed. Then I believe battery will be much better. Search the thread in the forum
it's here, the second post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/debloating-mi-9t-t3958145
Also turn sync apps off automaticly.
hwandroid said:
It says Android system 34% that is too much, if you click on Android system it will list you the services and more info on power drain. For example on my device Android system does not go higher 15% usually, I have disabled autostart for the apps and services I don't really need to be running in background.
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Yes, I've seen that it lists all the processes under Android system, but that didn't mean much, because there's a lot of them and it doesn't specify what drains the battery the most or any other details.
SUMMERBREEZE said:
You can debloat the ROM by using xiaomi adb tools, no root needed. Then I believe battery will be much better. Search the thread in the forum
it's here, the second post
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-9t/how-to/debloating-mi-9t-t3958145
Also turn sync apps off automaticly.
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Perhaps the sync is on, and that might be what's causing the drain, I'll look into it.
Speaking of debloating, is there a fail safe of some kind? If something goes wrong, would a factory reset bring back the disabled/removed modules?
Thanks to both of you for the help.
I'll see if any of that fixes the issue.
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Perhaps the sync is on, and that might be what's causing the drain, I'll look into it.
Speaking of debloating, is there a fail safe of some kind? If something goes wrong, would a factory reset bring back the disabled/removed modules?
Thanks to both of you for the help.
I'll see if any of that fixes the issue.
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I think the program list only the apps that are safe to debloat and also it just disable so choose the one you don't like and leave the ones you are not sure about and if you want to know about them Google is you best friend
i have this issue as well and i think it appeared when i started using chinese vendor
adsubzero said:
Perhaps the sync is on, and that might be what's causing the drain, I'll look into it.
Speaking of debloating, is there a fail safe of some kind? If something goes wrong, would a factory reset bring back the disabled/removed modules?
Thanks to both of you for the help.
I'll see if any of that fixes the issue.
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Factory reset would bring everything back of course but not necessary. The debloat app will bring everything back if you need. You can read many people wrote that it fixed their battery drain issue.
SUMMERBREEZE said:
Factory reset would bring everything back of course but not necessary. The debloat app will bring everything back if you need. You can read many people wrote that it fixed their battery drain issue.
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Indeed, I believe that debloating fixed, or at least alleviated the issue.
Thanks to everyone for the help.
I haven't updated my Xiaomi Mi 9T yet to MIUI 11. And I don't have any problem with the battery on MIUI 10. Should I wait until this bug is patched to get the update ?
Hussein912 said:
I haven't updated my Xiaomi Mi 9T yet to MIUI 11. And I don't have any problem with the battery on MIUI 10. Should I wait until this bug is patched to get the update ?
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It's hardly a bug you just have to manually configure the apps that you want to autostart in background.
Hussein912 said:
I haven't updated my Xiaomi Mi 9T yet to MIUI 11. And I don't have any problem with the battery on MIUI 10. Should I wait until this bug is patched to get the update ?
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I would definately wait. Since MIUI 11 both my wifes and my own phone have massive drain issues. They work fine for days and all of a sudden they fully drain within a few hours without noticing any app really doing anything.
Mine is more or less fully debloated and my wifes is not but has only a few apps.
I think there is really something wrong with the update.
hwandroid said:
It's hardly a bug you just have to manually configure the apps that you want to autostart in background.
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You know nothing. Is a major bug. Was present in miui 10 and is worse in miui 11.
So is debloat necessary again after updating to MIUI 11 (I disabled the apps, didn't remove them)?
Same finding here
(And maybe an ongoing solution)
hwandroid said:
It's hardly a bug you just have to manually configure the apps that you want to autostart in background.
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How do I know which apps need to be autostart and which not? Example, I have sharing of my location set up with someone. How do I know if google maps needs to be autostarted, or it's handeled by some api?
It's a huge problem for me. It keeps happening and reappearing every few days.
d.a.v.o.r said:
How do I know which apps need to be autostart and which not? Example, I have sharing of my location set up with someone. How do I know if google maps needs to be autostarted, or it's handeled by some api?
It's a huge problem for me. It keeps happening and reappearing every few days.
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Turn all off, its the same, wont break anything.
Any solutions? Happened for the first time for me too.