XDA Navigation Gestures app is silly (Discussion) - Google Pixel 2 XL Guides, News, & Discussion

Don't get me wrong, I love the app and the idea. It's just the description in the Google play store seems stupid to me. Here is what I'm talking about;
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KNOWN LIMITATIONS:
Unfortunately, XDA isn't God. As such, we are limited in what we can and cannot do. Please read this!
- There is no way to make a space for the pill
- We cannot detect the presence of a keyboard
- We cannot directly detect changes in full screen mode
- Screen off and screenshot actions are only possible with root
My problem is with the first two "restrictions" which I feel like there are ways around.
First off the space for the pill....
Instead of disabling the nav bar with this adb command:
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adb she'll am overscan 0,0,0,-202
You could leave it there and disable each individual button on the nav bar. I know this can be done because this is a feature of Custom Navbar app (Screenshots for proof). Then you could display the pill Navbar overtop of the empty space. You can display stuff over the Navbar. Rounded screen corner apps do this. If you did this the keyboard would display above the Navbar, and then you wouldn't have that issue either. It just seems like they don't want to try it....
And what's up with "this app doesn't work on Android P Dev preview? The command I listed earlier works fine when you turn off the gesture Navbar. Have they changed the way overlays work in Android P? I don't think so because all in one gestures still works.
I am honestly thinking of using Tasker scene to create my own pill Navbar above the blank Navbar as a proof of concept.

I tried to use it and these are my openions
It also overlapsthe screen content

Having a pill is pointless, it exists now only as a step to the no pill nav gestures that are going to be in Android Q. Can't alienate casual users by changing too much too fast unless your Apple after all. However that may be there are a half dozen apps on the market that do what they say can't be done; OnePlus gestures for example that costs you a buck fifty. Color me unimpressed with the XDA gestures.

Also got it to ignore that I was on Android P and let me set up the app. Screen shots of it working on Android P

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[APP] Navigation Layer

Thought I'd share this w/ fellow N5 users who may be interested in yet another way to maximize screen real estate...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2659919
Check out my post (#81) if you want to see how I customized the app for my daily use, essentially replacing PIE and Nav Bar while in expanded desktop (not disabling nav bar entirely, but if you set the dimensions correctly, you'll rarely see it unless you need it).
pwrmedia said:
Thought I'd share this w/ fellow N5 users who may be interested in yet another way to maximize screen real estate...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2659919
Check out my post (#81) if you want to see how I customized the app for my daily use, essentially replacing PIE and Nav Bar while in expanded desktop (not disabling nav bar entirely, but if you set the dimensions correctly, you'll rarely see it unless you need it).
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you need to set the dimentions as small as possible because anywhere the nav layer is functional, NOTHING ELSE IS!!! For instance, on my keyboard the 1 and 0 keys (or Q and P keys) do NOT work. Any apps that have controls anywhere the "GLOW" is or would be if enabled, will be affected. Personally I think Nav Layer is more of a hinderance than a help.Nothing works on the edges of my phone where Nav Layer is. Frustrating

[TIP] How to run all apps in 17:9 without black bars

I have literally no idea what Xiaomi was thinking when they had this setting off by default.
Open settings
Navigate to additional settings
Open the buttons tab
Turn ON the first option in the list, "Screen buttons can hide"
This also allows for the homescreen wallpaper to actually take up the entire screen. With regards to app compatibility, I'm surprised that nearly everything supports 17:9 perfectly.
**To clarify: this tweak allows the Mi Mix to render applications/games in its' full 2040x1080 (17:9) resolution. Before this tweak is applied, all apps are rendered in 16:9; the area in which the on screen buttons are present will always be wasted screen real estate. Obviously, this setting doesn't magically adapt content that was natively created for 16:9 (IE Youtube videos) and adapt them to fit the entire screen.
Your title is really misleading. For starters, when you recieve the mix one of the first screens that pops up is exactly this option. Second, even if you hide the Navigation buttons in apps like youtube, you'll still have black bars since youtube doesn't support the 17:9 aspect ratio. I think this thread is good for people that skipped trough this setting or didn't know about it, but i think you should change the title.
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Your title is really misleading. For starters, when you recieve the mix one of the first screens that pops up is exactly this option. Second, even if you hide the Navigation buttons in apps like youtube, you'll still have black bars since youtube doesn't support the 17:9 aspect ratio. I think this thread is good for people that skipped trough this setting or didn't know about it, but i think you should change the title.
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There was a prompt to turn on this setting upon factory reset? I never saw this. As to your second point, my title doesn't say display media content made for 16:9 on 17:9, just run the apps (UI).
This method doesn't give you full 17:9, but it is very easy to do and it's good enough for some, as OP stated, you just need to go to setting and set it. But since Nav bar is basically still there and it's just hidden after you swipe it down, some content could still be in 16:9. To really get your phone to show everything that's possible for 17:9, you should use the Xposed method to remove the Nav bar completely, this way you get the full 17:9 experience. As an example, third party launcher like Nova launcher would not be in 17:9 if you use the OP method, but with Xposed, you can use the Nav Bar space for whatever you want.
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This method doesn't give you full 17:9, but it is very easy to do and it's good enough for some, as OP stated, you just need to go to setting and set it. But since Nav bar is basically still there and it's just hidden after you swipe it down, some content could still be in 16:9. To really get your phone to show everything that's possible for 17:9, you should use the Xposed method to remove the Nav bar completely, this way you get the full 17:9 experience. As an example, third party launcher like Nova launcher would not be in 17:9 if you use the OP method, but with Xposed, you can use the Nav Bar space for whatever you want.
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Which module you have used to hide the navbar?
Tested xMiui, well the navbar is hidden, but the space it leaves is still not usable. A build.prop edit works better fof me. Now the space is usable by TSF launcher and all other apps. I'm using LMT pie instead.
build.prop change
qemu.hw.mainkeys=0
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qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
You could keep a backup to revert the change with TWRP filemanager if needed.
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I just use xMIUI and the space are totally usable after reboot. Meaning icons, widgets docks can be all the way down at the bottom of screen where the usual nav bar was.
wu5262 said:
This method doesn't give you full 17:9, but it is very easy to do and it's good enough for some, as OP stated, you just need to go to setting and set it. But since Nav bar is basically still there and it's just hidden after you swipe it down, some content could still be in 16:9. To really get your phone to show everything that's possible for 17:9, you should use the Xposed method to remove the Nav bar completely, this way you get the full 17:9 experience. As an example, third party launcher like Nova launcher would not be in 17:9 if you use the OP method, but with Xposed, you can use the Nav Bar space for whatever you want.
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I just use xMIUI and the space are totally usable after reboot. Meaning icons, widgets docks can be all the way down at the bottom of screen where the usual nav bar was.
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How is swiping down and hiding the nav bar not running apps in 17:9? Games prior to this setting would render in 1080p with black bars, after this setting they render the entire screen (and the nav bar is transparent). What you're saying literally makes no sense. I've been using Nova launcher and I just tested swiping down on the home screen and the nav bar fully disappears and the dock icons move down right where the nav bar was. They DO move down all the way to the bottom of the screen. I guess if you want to fully remove the nav bar or use the space for "whatever you want" via exposed, one can go that route, but I don't see why anyone would want to remove it. How they hell are you gonna get to your home screen, go back, or view multitasking?
Indeed, if you really want to use the full screen, you need to remove the nav bar not hiding it. Since you are using nova launcher so I will use that as an example. If you have a news widget setup to display in 16:9, when you hide the nav bar by sliding down, the widget stays in 16:9 leaving the bottom space empty.
This is just one of the many examples where content won't automatically convert to 17:9 if you hide nav bar on real time. Besides it has been reported that some of the graphic glitch or system slowness are due to the nav bar hiding and appearing.
The solution I went with is to remove nav bar completely, so everything are shown in 17:9 natively, no switching between 16:9 and 17:9 causing the system to do extra work and have chance to misbehave. I haven't personally run the hiding nav bar method for too long as I knew quite early that's not gonna be good enough for me so I can't really comment more on the stability of it.
As of control, there are many method you can choose, simple control allow you to have exactly the same function as normal nav bar but all would run in 17:9 and it can automatically hide nav bar after some interval. Simple pie brings out overlay for nav control, I am running floating menu which is completely invisible. No overlay and is just a quick swipe to perform your usual back, home recent actions. In a lot of cases, it's faster than bringing up nav bar and click on what you want then swipe down to hide. With floating menu, it's just a single swipe.
Anyway, I am not saying anything that is best, you see what you like and that's best for you. I go with my method because it's the cleanest and has no overlay at all. Going xposed is super easy for me as I am very familiar with it.
Some would find it hard to do, some would not want to do it, some just like to hide and bring up nav bar then rehide it afterwards. Hell, some even like to use the quick ball instead. Try them all and you will see what's best for you.
wu5262 said:
Indeed, if you really want to use the full screen, you need to remove the nav bar not hiding it. Since you are using nova launcher so I will use that as an example. If you have a news widget setup to display in 16:9, when you hide the nav bar by sliding down, the widget stays in 16:9 leaving the bottom space empty.
This is just one of the many examples where content won't automatically convert to 17:9 if you hide nav bar on real time. Besides it has been reported that some of the graphic glitch or system slowness are due to the nav bar hiding and appearing.
The solution I went with is to remove nav bar completely, so everything are shown in 17:9 natively, no switching between 16:9 and 17:9 causing the system to do extra work and have chance to misbehave. I haven't personally run the hiding nav bar method for too long as I knew quite early that's not gonna be good enough for me so I can't really comment more on the stability of it.
As of control, there are many method you can choose, simple control allow you to have exactly the same function as normal nav bar but all would run in 17:9 and it can automatically hide nav bar after some interval. Simple pie brings out overlay for nav control, I am running floating menu which is completely invisible. No overlay and is just a quick swipe to perform your usual back, home recent actions. In a lot of cases, it's faster than bringing up nav bar and click on what you want then swipe down to hide. With floating menu, it's just a single swipe.
Anyway, I am not saying anything that is best, you see what you like and that's best for you. I go with my method because it's the cleanest and has no overlay at all. Going xposed is super easy for me as I am very familiar with it.
Some would find it hard to do, some would not want to do it, some just like to hide and bring up nav bar then rehide it afterwards. Hell, some even like to use the quick ball instead. Try them all and you will see what's best for you.
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Ahhh very thorough response. Thanks for clarifying as you did bring up some good points.
I've disabled navbar with builp.prop edit now. As pie i'm using gravitybox, the only one i've found working in any possible situation! LMT, unique controls etc., these are all requesting overlay permission, means these are not working like a real xposed code swap would work. The problem with implementations like LMT, etc. is, it fails if you're using apps like paypal, that desktivate all overlay apps in start. That means, open paypal, pie dead, no navigation possible. For me unusable. The only working real replacement is gravitybox. If anybody knows another, nicer desugned one....
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I am running floating menu with PayPal, non-issue at all. Liked i mentioned many times already, if you want the cleanest way to maximise everything in 17:9, you won't get anything better than this. It has no overlay and you don't see anything at all. (or if you want, a bit of overlay to help you click and swipe). Otherwise it's totally invisible.
If you want more functions like app shortcut and so on, simple pie would be better.
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I am running floating menu with PayPal, non-issue at all. Liked i mentioned many times already, if you want the cleanest way to maximise everything in 17:9, you won't get anything better than this. It has no overlay and you don't see anything at all. (or if you want, a bit of overlay to help you click and swipe). Otherwise it's totally invisible.
If you want more functions like app shortcut and so on, simple pie would be better.
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Same with gravitybox pie, you see nothing until you swipe up from bottom left, right. Anyway i'll have a look to floating menu, too.
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Difference is with pie, you see the overlay when you swipe up then you need to locate the icon then let go. So ya there is still overlay and it takes a tiny more effort.
With floating menu, you swipe up then that's it. You don't locate and you don't see anything at all, hence it's totally clean. I truly believe it doesn't get any simpler than this.
wu5262 said:
I just use xMIUI and the space are totally usable after reboot. Meaning icons, widgets docks can be all the way down at the bottom of screen where the usual nav bar was.
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What feature do u use exactly in xmiui
wu5262 said:
I just use xMIUI and the space are totally usable after reboot. Meaning icons, widgets docks can be all the way down at the bottom of screen where the usual nav bar was.
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Hi, do you mind sharing how to use xMiui to do that? I can't seems to find that option. And you mentioned abound simple control? Where can I get it? Thanks =)
I am new to miui
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What feature do u use exactly in xmiui
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Well, many I guess, there are a tone of things you can change in XMIUI, you can customise pretty much anything you want
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flywithme said:
Hi, do you mind sharing how to use xMiui to do that? I can't seems to find that option. And you mentioned abound simple control? Where can I get it? Thanks =)
I am new to miui
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It's under HW keys, and scroll all the way down to nav bar and set it to hide.
You can download simple control from App Store. Same developer that created simple pie.
This is my personal preference: Float menu > simple control > simple pie
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Well, many I guess, there are a tone of things you can change in XMIUI, you can customise pretty much anything you want
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It's under HW keys, and scroll all the way down to nav bar and set it to hide.
You can download simple control from App Store. Same developer that created simple pie.
This is my personal preference: Float menu > simple control > simple pie
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Thank you so much
After testing :
Apps now run 17:9 natively.
One issue: simple control get killed by system memory cleaner using the recent button while clearing all task. Will need to wait for about 20s for simple control to work again.
flywithme said:
Thank you so much
After testing :
Apps now run 17:9 natively.
One issue: simple control get killed by system memory cleaner using the recent button while clearing all task. Will need to wait for about 20s for simple control to work again.
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One more argument to use gravitybox pie feature. It is not killed by systems taskmanager! And well, there's only an overlay if you trigger the pie.
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flywithme said:
Thank you so much
After testing :
Apps now run 17:9 natively.
One issue: simple control get killed by system memory cleaner using the recent button while clearing all task. Will need to wait for about 20s for simple control to work again.
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White list it and you won't have this problem. At least not with floating menu, mine is not getting killed even if I press X to clear all.
There is also the exposed method if you really can't get it to work
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White list it and you won't have this problem. At least not with floating menu, mine is not getting killed even if I press X to clear all.
There is also the exposed method if you really can't get it to work
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One more argument to use gravitybox pie feature. It is not killed by systems taskmanager! And well, there's only an overlay if you trigger the pie.
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One thing I like about simple control over the rest is that I can set a delay before it disappears. I can do operation like double back easily to exit some app which require it. The app is also more simple and elegant to use compare to floating menu.
 @wu5262 how do I use the exposed methods?

How to make navigation bar transparent in all apps all the time [ No ROOT ]

There has to be an easy way to make the navigation bar be transparent in all apps. I have used immersive mode in all apps before but I find it annoying having to swipe up all the time plus some of the apps dont behave well having this mod enable.
I have seen many threads going back to 2015 but no concrete answer on how to get a transparent nav bar. Now basically all I want is to archive something like the screenshot I inserted in this post. As you can see in this marshmallow version of android, when opening the app drawer the nav bar is transparent and the icons have a dark shadow in case the background of the app is white.
Is there an easy way to archive this look in Samsung S8? I am aware of xposed app. but is requires root. Is there a way to do this unrooted?
Apparently I cannot submit images since this is my first post. Just copy and paste on browser to see the images I am referring to
h ttp://imgur.com/a/4JkB4
You can achieve that with Nova Launcher. Full version of the app is paid but I believe Dock settings are available even in the regular version.
I've researched this same topic pretty heavily and just like you haven't found a concrete answer. I'm pretty sure root is going to be needed though from what I have read. System ui needs to be modded from what I understand. ADB has come along ways without root permissions so who knows, it may be possible without root. I've tried various ADB commands with no luck so far.
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I did the reverse (sort of). Installed Softkey Edge application and then enabled immersive via adb command and loved it since because I want to maximize screen real estate and the navbar gets in the way

iPhone X gestures

Is there any option to make iPhone X gestures on S8
Which gestures do you mean exactly?
There is no nav bars . Only gestures. When you close an app, only scroll up from bottom of screen. Or when you scroll up half, it shows recently used apps. Like these. By this way , nav bar doesn't fill a place at screen.
You could hide the navbar by pressing the dot in the left.
For the rest, I think it COULD be possible to do that kind of gestures in some custom rom.
That's my first rom without custom rom so I cannot speak for that but in my past phones, most times there was an option for that. You could hide the status bar, the navbar and could save some custom gestures like the one you want.
I highly doubt that anyone will do an iOS-like rom. That's just not a thing the wide community wants. You could also just sell your S8 and buy yourself the iPhone X. That would be the best option.
Why you need them?
You've problems with your nav bar?
We have nav bar and we don't need them
If this is not the case, I would suggest you to sell s8 and purchase a X
I don't like nav bar placing screen. That's all.
Just use navbar hider APK or 0pt navbar apk and download all in one gestures from the playstore or personally my favorite simple control and voila oh and enable all full screen apps to get rid of that stupid white tap her to fill screen bull****.
I'm sure that alternative navbar are coming with an iphoneX-like style
But if you don't want to wait, just use some gestures apps from the play store
When Blackberry 10 came out with these gestures in 2013, it wasn't as popular, but when Apple copies it, it becomes an interesting invention. When first iPhone came out, then others were trying to catch up, but for few years it is the opposite. So we need to look what is ahead and not at the past.
Hide navbar/status bar permanently
https://android.gadgethacks.com/how...re-screen-real-estate-no-root-needed-0177297/
For gestures, download Nova Launcher Prime and assign gesture controls. In fact, get that set up before ditching the nav bar
Solutions
Hello You can use "All in one gestures" for simulete home.
Get iPhone X's gestures on Android
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Is there any option to make iPhone X gestures on S8
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Read this article and comments:
https://www.xda-developers.com/iphone-x-gestures-android-guide/
There are many apps that offer 3rd party gesture based navigation. Among these are a slew of iPhone X gesture clones. Worth noting: iPhone X gestures are not ideal for the S8, as swiping up will cause the navbar to reappear. There is a way of permanently hiding the navbar, but it does not work on Oreo.
Download x home bar:free from the play store.

Hiding The Big Stupid Navbar Android 11

Long story short, Q gestures is absolutely terrible. I use a third party app for navigation. however, EVERY single app I've ever tried seems to be unable to hide the nav bar due Google's screwery. in fact, even Fullscreen Qgestures magisk module does nothing on Ob1.
Does anyone know a definitive way to hide the stupid annoying navbar?
Google have removed the ability to over-scan the display in Android 11 (which is the trick all 3rd party apps used to hide the nav bar); so at the moment there's simply NO WAY to remove it,
I wouldn't mind the built-in gestures so much if there was the ability to turn off the "mini nav bar" which just shows a hide icon every time you use a keyboard. That's the biggest UI issue in my book, it just looks stupid!
Google needs to reverse it back to the way it was...
no updates on this? too bad google removed wm overscan
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no updates on this? too bad google removed wm overscan
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With magisk you can use module called Fullscreen/Immersive Gestures (Q-R).
Works great, no problems with missing toast notifications etc.
can confirm, that magisk module works perfectly. use your volume keys during install to set the settings. https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Repo/HideNavBar
Has anyone done this to get fng working on an OP8 Pro with latest Android 11?
EDIT: Just read the github. Doesn't work with Oxygen OS.
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Google have removed the ability to over-scan the display in Android 11 (which is the trick all 3rd party apps used to hide the nav bar); so at the moment there's simply NO WAY to remove it,
I wouldn't mind the built-in gestures so much if there was the ability to turn off the "mini nav bar" which just shows a hide icon every time you use a keyboard. That's the biggest UI issue in my book, it just looks stupid!
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I absolutely loathe that extra button.
But the slider at the bottom of the screen for gestures I've grown to love.
Knocking it left or right switches apps really quickly and I couldn't be without that now.
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can confirm, that magisk module works perfectly. use your volume keys during install to set the settings. https://github.com/Magisk-Modules-Repo/HideNavBar
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The latest version works.
Nice one for this.
Have to keep the OnePlus launcher installed to retain gestures though
Sliding at the bottom still works
with novalauncher you can hide/recover top and bottombar with a swipe: easy to do
henk-jan.b said:
with novalauncher you can hide/recover top and bottombar with a swipe: easy to do
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And on the keyboard??
dladz said:
And on the keyboard??
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I don't understand what you mean: you can define swipes to hide or to reveal the top and/or bottom bars.
No keyboard necessary.
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I don't understand what you mean: you can define swipes to hide or to reveal the top and/or bottom bars.
No keyboard necessary.
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So on nova yes you can but the keyboard will still have the additional bar underneath it.
Nova can't fix that
Not with me
Now with a screenshot
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Not with me
Now with a screenshot
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Absolutely yes with you mate, what are you talking about lol.
@dliadz: I see what you mean. The space (and not specific the bottom bar) is there. I didn't even notice it because it doesn't bother me.
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@dliadz: I see what you mean. The space (and not specific the bottom bar) is there. I didn't even notice it because it doesn't bother me.
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Haha lol no worries.
Yea now you've noticed it, it'll start to
Personally I hate it, it's really estate I can't use for no reason, it hasn't always existed and I don't like it
Burt Squirtz said:
Long story short, Q gestures is absolutely terrible. I use a third party app for navigation. however, EVERY single app I've ever tried seems to be unable to hide the nav bar due Google's screwery. in fact, even Fullscreen Qgestures magisk module does nothing on Ob1.
Does anyone know a definitive way to hide the stupid annoying navbar?
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Hi,
You can either use fullscreen Gesture magisk module or you can follow this guide below-
How to remove Nav Bar in Android 11
Works perfectly on OP8 Pro with latest Android 11 update. Thanks a lot.
forum.xda-developers.com
In oxygenOS 11 you can hide the bottom space between the keyboard and gesture .... you have that option in your settings under the language and input section.... you can simply search keyboard height adjustment in setting and you'll find it
thank you
Is there a way to auto-hide the nav bar? Ex. On my old phone you could swipe up to show it or tap a dot on the left to stop it from disappearing.
Looks like the only way is to use a different launcher? I tried adding the fullscreen / immersive module but I believe that's just for the keyboard.

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