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LG G5 Confirmed for February 21 Launch

LG G5 launch date confirmed for February 21. It may feature a unique and interesting modular battery design.
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with locked bootloader and MM fully securised.........for sure !!!!! :laugh:
and no possibility to unlock it for some looooooong time !!!!!! maybe NEVER ! :laugh:
no development are possible ! nothing !!!!! ........completely useless for XDA !!! this forum don't have to spend energy to create a section ..........pffffff !!!!!!!!
And with bad reputation of LG G4 with it's fragile hardware ,with all these bootloop and other .......... i think that too many people will change for others manufacturers ......

Yes and they supposedly move the buttons on the side.....
This is one good reason to jump in another OEM's wagon. For me back volume rocker was the first reason that pushed me to buy G2. And i was kinda disappointed with G4 when i got the hardware problems after 1 month.
Got to consider my next buy.

Loulou-13 said:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
with locked bootloader and MM fully securised.........for sure !!!!! :laugh:
and no possibility to unlock it for some looooooong time !!!!!! maybe NEVER ! :laugh:
no development are possible ! nothing !!!!! ........completely useless for XDA !!! this forum don't have to spend energy to create a section ..........pffffff !!!!!!!!
And with bad reputation of LG G4 with it's fragile hardware ,with all these bootloop and other .......... i think that too many people will change for others manufacturers ......
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U are right , bootloader will lose their minority buyer but i think they don't give the sh*t either ...

venom_tan said:
U are right , bootloader will lose their minority buyer but i think they don't give the sh*t either ...
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yes it's sure ..... users like ours are really a "minority" ...but there are much more users who "fiddle" their phone (who search for root,xposed,tweaks,customs.....) than we think .
and this future G5 will be the same as an Apple iphone and others Android manufacturers who will eventualy follow this full securities and locks .

The reason I bought the G4 was that I assumed it would be able to root, bootloader unlock and get a custom recovery for Custom Roms. Unfortunately I have the Verizon VS986 variant which only allows root. LG has been pretty stable and fast, maybe not as fast as the Motorola X Pure Edition which has the same specs but overall I am satisfied.
My contract extension isn't until 2017 so I'm pretty much stuck with the phone until then. I have alot of time to monitor and see who really is looking out for people like us that want full control of the phone and the Rom that is within the device.
..Sent from an XDA modified LG G4 on Verizon..

There's no point in buying a phone, if it's not possible to root and mod it. Period

s7 has rumours of a SD card if so back to sammy for me, root don't worry me my banking and a few other apps I need will not run on rooted device.
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Not bad. But seeing how the G4 is as simple as a phone can get and had quite a bit of issues. I can easily see the G5 being filled with even more with a design like that. Stacking the locked bootloader situation and security on top, probably a no go for me.
Sony is really looking like a good option for the future seeing how they're very developer friendly and provide some nice options for the type of phone you'll want. (Premium, compact, that other third one)

Hopefully HTC this year will make us a surprise for the flagship phone then I will jump back to HTC .

venom_tan said:
Hopefully HTC this year will make us a surprise for the flagship phone then I will jump back to HTC .
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*100 Out of all the manufacturers I think HTC has had the right idea for a couple years. They just can't seem to get the camera right for some odd reason. But if the camera is only marginally better than the M9 there's no question where I'll be headed. G4 dev support is almost non existent and if I can't tinker than its no use to me.

An HTC with a very good camera, why not 12mpx Ultrapixels..., or a Sony with an Amoled screen and finally a good camera which can shoot in Raw. I like my G4, but screen touch problem is not professional at all and I don't have time to send it and get it back 20 days later... Not serious at all about what LG did. Imagine Apple with this kind of problem... And the G4 don't have fingerprint sensor, a big shame, but like I said, it's still a good phone.

Well, then the show is open for some devices with good dev-support. I'm ready to hear, because neither the new Nexus 6P nor Nexus 5X have that amount of development. And those are phones without any problem.
At the moment, there isn't any new "beloved by developers" phone, is it?

MickyFoley said:
Well, then the show is open for some devices with good dev-support. I'm ready to hear, because neither the new Nexus 6P nor Nexus 5X have that amount of development. And those are phones without any problem.
At the moment, there isn't any new "beloved by developers" phone, is it?
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Umm let's head over to the S6, Note 5, even the dreaded M9 has way more dev support. And I'm pretty sure the S7, Note 6 and M10 will have more dev support. There is no one "beloved by developers" phone but it seems like we have a good candidate for most "hated by developers" phone. The G4 gets my vote.

klbjr said:
*100 Out of all the manufacturers I think HTC has had the right idea for a couple years. They just can't seem to get the camera right for some odd reason. But if the camera is only marginally better than the M9 there's no question where I'll be headed. G4 dev support is almost non existent and if I can't tinker than its no use to me.
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HTC has amazing devices but has vastly ignored the camera which is a shame. The M9 is a beast and the only reason that made me not buy the phone was the lackluster camera. I just wish there was a way to confirm root, bootloader unlock and Rom compatibility at the time of a phone release but it's a gamble ultimately.
We will all see in a few weeks at Mobile World Congress 2016 Barcelona.
.: sent from my 'Android til I die' phone or tablet

I'm entitled to a new phone July 2017, so roughly 1,5 years to watch the scene. The G4 has amazing potential, I kinda believe what we encounter is mostly software related issues. LG, still, is a very professional company and I doubt they'd pick suppliers who don't double check their hardware. But: After that, LG is dead. I don't understand why you'd wanna lock out developers. I mean, half the stuff of today's Android was made up by developers and hands down, there is some and I doubt it's only a small minority, who don't wanna wait forever till they receive a bloated update or even worse who have to hope and pray that their device will be supplied with updates in the future.

Loulou-13 said:
with locked bootloader and MM fully securised.........for sure !!!!!
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do you have a source for locked bootloader or is this only your assumption?

paratox said:
do you have a source for locked bootloader or is this only your assumption?
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It's sure at 99.9% that the LG politic about security will not changed at all... it's getting worse ...
Phones are more and more highly encrypted,blocked securised ........because of very bad terribles hackers who want to steal all android users (datas...) ,that's known ...

Loulou-13 said:
It's sure at 99.9% that the LG politic about security will not changed at all... it's getting worse ...
Phones are more and more highly encrypted,blocked securised ........because of very bad terribles hackers who want to steal all android users (datas...) ,that's known ...
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EU H815 is unlockable. if G5 EU version is also unlockable i`m more then happy.
locked down provider phones on us market is another story but this is not a LG (only) problem. rate with your provider decision and / or buy free phones on the market!

paratox said:
EU H815 is unlockable. if G5 EU version is also unlockable i`m more then happy.
locked down provider phones on us market is another story but this is not a LG (only) problem. rate with your provider decision and / or buy free phones on the market!
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yes ... all manufacturers will follow in this way ......
and "geeks" like ours will have less and less choice of phone ( otherwise we are forced to conform and and sacrifice by buying a phone like others standard users, never without root ,customs ,xposed ... but just the stock firmware )
The only way will be to buy a old second hand phone with developments........or pray that NEXUS will continue to be easy to hack and unlock .
the begining of the end ??? wait and see ...

Is ZTE developer friendly?

Hey folks,
what are the experiences with developing custom roms/kernels for ZTE?
Does ZTE release any helpfull sources, or are they as "closed sourced" as Samsung is?
Currenty OnePlus are releasing all sources they have and developers need, and as a result just 2 weeks after the launch there are already ALL imporant customs roms are available for the OP3. Can we expect any neraly simmilar from ZTE?
Regards,
Mika

They are not friendly at all. Some of the Axon series can't even be rooted so yea.

for the moment we're all waiting anxiously with the hope that ZTE releases unlocking bootloader and sources?

Sounds not very promising or motivating to buy the Axon 7. I really don't get it why companies are trying to prevent million of android enthusiast to buy their devices ...

they probably see stuff like sources as intellectual property which could be copied by their competitors or lead to more exploits.

3mel said:
they probably see stuff like sources as intellectual property which could be copied by their competitors or lead to more exploits.
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Kernelsources fall under GPl though. So if they dont comply with the Licence you could just sue them for it.

I was thinking of things like drivers for proprietary stuff like the speakers, DAC, HDMI etc, anything that they've made themselves or licensed from a third party.

Axon 7 is from specs side way better than 1+3 in my opinion and it costs only €50 more...but...the thing about hard or impossible to root and lack of custom ROMs holds me from buying it.
I am unsure about ZTE to deliver long-term updates...usually....I can only rely on custom ROMs for updates.
At the moment, I still haven't decided which one to get. I am torn between community support (1+3) vs better balanced specs (Axon7).

I agree the ZTE Axon 7 looks really good. I am a bit concerned with its lack of root. Without root no Custom O/S or software will be developed. I have pre ordered the phone but may cancel due to lack of root. I will decide soon what to do.
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An Android smartphone without root possibility and custom ROMs, as long as the manufacturer keeps delivering updates...let say for at least 2 years... you do not have a huge problem.
The problem is...if you do not have root, do not have custom ROMs and the manufacturer does not deliver updates at all....the phone is so good as a piece of junk

Apparently some of the chinese ones are getting google play and other google apps on them, that isn't usually just as easy as installing the apk file so how are they getting these apps on?
Any chinese phone I've bought generally refuses to let you install google apps as they want system access.

aaa said:
Axon 7 is from specs side way better than 1+3 in my opinion and it costs only €50 more...but...the thing about hard or impossible to root and lack of custom ROMs holds me from buying it.
I am unsure about ZTE to deliver long-term updates...usually....I can only rely on custom ROMs for updates.
At the moment, I still haven't decided which one to get. I am torn between community support (1+3) vs better balanced specs (Axon7).
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I completely agree on this. I'm split between those two and consider a third one which hasn't been released yet the Asus Zenfone 3 deluxe.
I guess we will wait somewhat longer for more information to come out.

@celoxocis
Zenfone 3 deluxe, the variant with Snap 821+6GB RAM+256GB memory is too expensive.
The 820, 4GB RAM and 64GB memory version is interesting too...but...nobody knows when this will come to Europe.

aaa said:
@celoxocis
Zenfone 3 deluxe, the variant with Snap 821+6GB RAM+256GB memory is too expensive.
The 820, 4GB RAM and 64GB memory version is interesting too...but...nobody knows when this will come to Europe.
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For Europe it will be launched after "IFA 2016" which is 04.-09. September 2016.
The good thing is the older Zenfone Series is already supported by CM.
And i know some CM devs are looking forward to add support for the Zenfone 3 deluxe once out.
I will definitely wait. For me it comes down which one of the three gets the best dev support.
For now:
1+3 is leading (except for their Dash(Vooc) Charger sources. which is why i still hold back)
ZTE Axon 7. Who knows if it ever be unlock-able. The forum post might just have been another PR gag.
Zenfone 3 deluxe. Waiting patiently...

Almost complete pre-order but decided against it due to its uncertain rootability. I still own Oneplus One and love it but want slight upgrade and thought Axon 7 would be the perfect upgrade progression. I will wait and see.

sonnyt said:
Almost complete pre-order but decided against it due to its uncertain rootability. I still own Oneplus One and love it but want slight upgrade and thought Axon 7 would be the perfect upgrade progression. I will wait and see.
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I like how you said "slight upgrade"! I love my OPO too, it is as fast as ever and plenty powerful, but the front facing speakers of the Axon 7 are very intriguing and I'm also considering it unless ZTE is awful with pushing out updates and if the bootloader will stay locked with no root. Then the only option is OP3.

Another One owner here looking to "upgrade". The battery on my phone is getting bad. I'm sure a new battery would breath life into this phone but after my wife's new Moto G (125$) camera bested my One's, I knew it was time. Bring on the front face speakers and Daydream support, as long as the bootloader is unlocked! Better have double tap to wake!

runderekrun said:
Another One owner here looking to "upgrade". The battery on my phone is getting bad. I'm sure a new battery would breath life into this phone but after my wife's new Moto G (125$) camera bested my One's, I knew it was time. Bring on the front face speakers and Daydream support, as long as the bootloader is unlocked! Better have double tap to wake!
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It has double tap to wake. Very useful.

Word going around is that ZTE said in a community webinar tonight that it's a matter of when NOT if the bootloader is going to be unlocked. Doesn't sound like it's launching with an unlocked bootloader but it will be unlocked "later". Kinda lame.

I can confirm that on the webinar it was stated its a matter of "when" not "if"
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I request EVERY ONE SIGN THIS PETITION NOW!!!

First they sold a old hardware and software
Second they failed to fix any bugs and errors
Third they did not give a system upgrade to any market except china
Fourth Very poor after sales support
Fifth Still selling this device and fooling consumers in Asian and European markets.
Only a few people know how to switch to other ROMs, but what about the majority rest of people.
React now.
Sign this petition.
https://www.change.org/p/yuanqing-y...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
if anyone knows lenovo businesses heads, CEO, MD, mail and social accounts, PM me their addresses...
and dont forget, please share this link on your twitter accounts.

prax31 said:
Im tired of switching between these unstable and unreliable custom roms...
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That's a punch in every devs face!
There are so many people including me that are happier with custom roms then the stock cos 12.1 which.
Thank Mr.Coldbird for marshmallow and his fp gestures, thanks to @acuicultor and @OrdenKrieger for the great kernel and device trees and all others for the variety of custom roms.
Those people who are buying this device nowadays don't care about updates or Android versions, otherwise they wouldn't buy a device which comes with Android 5.
Everybody who is aware of the Android update policy knows that every manufacturer makes their own update plan and those who want fast updates going to buy nexus or pixel phones or an iPhone

I have 2 zuk1's, both fully stock and both working as expected with only one bug. Both are suffering from the "waking up" syndrome.
The oldest zuk has been produced in Nov 2015 and since more than a year my daily driver...the second one is produced in March 2016 and in my possession since a couple of months.
I don't see any reason to complain as I knew I was buying "old" software and lets be honest, the hardware still still fairly up to date considering the price range the phone is being sold in. What you guys want is a phone with the specs of a Samsung S7 for less than 200€ new?! Do you really think that Lenovo is going to invest its time and resources in a phone which is no longer in production?
The phone's still on sale currently are NOT sold be Lenovo but people/company's who are trying to get rid of old stock...

Paid 239€ in a Electronic store. Fair price
Jau the lack of 64bit possibility worries me but otherwise it's fine.
Thanks to the great devs here it also makes me more happy than a Redmi note 2 I owned (just not the Mi5 I'm coming from) But enough OT from me
Just don't buy a Phone you don't like, there is also the web to inform yourself about possible OS updates from the Manufacturer or not etc.
But to be fair, Europe support of Lenovo/Zuk seems to be 0

[rant] Starting to hate Moto/Lenovo :(

They release new phones quicker than they release updates. Reading about the Oreo update on GSMAarena, just made my blood boil ... "That said, the Moto Z Play is unlikely to receive another update for some time (or ever)".
Yes, maybe GSMArena is wrong and we will get security fixes after the Oreo update. But so far, Moto/Lenovo has disappointed me with their slow and sparse OTAs.
Seeing how they are going to release the Moto Z3 Play soon just makes me angry. The performance increase is minimal, the battery will most likely be as small as the one in the Moto Z2 Play, or smaller.
Am I stupid to think that a new model of anything should be improved so much that owners of the current model might want to upgrade? At least after the third generation? The Z2 and Z3 series are aimed at new customers, not at owners of a Z1.
@Moto/Lenovo: Slow the f**k down! Support your cr*p with regular updates! And release new phones when technology (CPU, battery, camera ...) has improved significantly to make the next generation of phones interesting to your current customers!

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They release new phones quicker than they release updates. Reading about the Oreo update on GSMAarena, just made my blood boil ... "That said, the Moto Z Play is unlikely to receive another update for some time (or ever)".
Yes, maybe GSMArena is wrong and we will get security fixes after the Oreo update. But so far, Moto/Lenovo has disappointed me with their slow and sparse OTAs.
Seeing how they are going to release the Moto Z3 Play soon just makes me angry. The performance increase is minimal, the battery will most likely be as small as the one in the Moto Z2 Play, or smaller.
Am I stupid to think that a new model of anything should be improved so much that owners of the current model might want to upgrade? At least after the third generation? The Z2 and Z3 series are aimed at new customers, not at owners of a Z1.
@Moto/Lenovo: Slow the f**k down! Support your cr*p with regular updates! And release new phones when technology (CPU, battery, camera ...) has improved significantly to make the next generation of phones interesting to your current customers!
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Yeah the Z2 play was a dud. Take the main selling point of this phone and nerf it... the battery.
I'd be very happy though with an incremental upgrade, maybe some more RAM and a 636 CPU... but make it IP68 waterproof! So far though looks like the Z3 Play is also a dud with a 3000mah battery.
The Galaxy A7 is basically the kind of phone I'd like, but without all the Samsung bloat. Bigger battery than the Z Play and waterproof. Maybe 4GB+ of RAM would be nice though.

That's why i will not waiting for z3play and buy honor view 10. It's sad that Motorola phones not appeal anymore and hope they will make intresting phone so people again look at them.

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Yeah the Z2 play was a dud. Take the main selling point of this phone and nerf it... the battery.
I'd be very happy though with an incremental upgrade, maybe some more RAM and a 636 CPU... but make it IP68 waterproof! So far though looks like the Z3 Play is also a dud with a 3000mah battery.
The Galaxy A7 is basically the kind of phone I'd like, but without all the Samsung bloat. Bigger battery than the Z Play and waterproof. Maybe 4GB+ of RAM would be nice though.
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Exactly, battery and headphone plug
I could imaging that Moto (and others!) simply want to have the newest CPU in their phones, so that they "rank better" ... on price comparison sites ... or to give salesmen a simple reason to sell "this phone over that one".
Apart from that, it doesn't make sense at all. We have Apple and Samsung as the big players. The others come up with something different every now and then. Due to their "always the newest hardware strategy", they either produce the same products as everyone else, or they kill their darlings by dropping them like a hot, half-arsed potato. In the end, only the price tag determines which phone will sell. And Moto has no way to compete against "true Chinese brands" in that respect.
Even worse, some of those "crappy Chinese brands" actually do offer more regular updates and longer support...
It's a shame that no one in the business has balls (or a uterus) and does something extraordinary and stand out from the crowd.

We got 2 OS updates on on this phone and security patches also have been coming through, what is the rant about?.... Google itself promises 2 years of updates, so we are at par with that philosophy, not behind... Infact even after releasing so many new phones after the z play, they have not forgotten it, is commendable no?

vivebatu said:
We got 2 OS updates on on this phone and security patches also have been coming through, what is the rant about?.... Google itself promises 2 years of updates, so we are at par with that philosophy, not behind... Infact even after releasing so many new phones after the z play, they have not forgotten it, is commendable no?
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Exactly.
It got the same amount of updates as a flagship. What else do you want? Do you think Samsung is going to give Android P to Galaxy S7 users or what? You're also up to date with security patches. I can't see another big brand updating their mid-range as long as Motorola did.
OS updates end here but they will continue to provide security patches if they want. Most people upgrade after 2 years anyway.

Sorry, that is pure whataboutism. The notion that other companies don't support their products doesn't make it acceptable in any way.
I am not concerned about not getting Android P, but I would like to have Oreo supported with security fixes.
Apart from that, you really are satisfied with two years of support?! You are any phone manufacturers dream customer!
I bought my MZP in 2017, when it was still a decent phone. Therefore I got only 1 year of support. Not very impressive in my opinion.

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Sorry, that is pure whataboutism. The notion that other companies don't support their products doesn't make it acceptable in any way.
I am not concerned about not getting Android P, but I would like to have Oreo supported with security fixes.
Apart from that, you really are satisfied with two years of support?! You are any phone manufacturers dream customer!
I bought my MZP in 2017, when it was still a decent phone. Therefore I got only 1 year of support. Not very impressive in my opinion.
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This is another good point. We compare to other manufacturers who have super short support spans and think Motorola is doing great. None of them provide much support because they want us to buy new devices. The whole system is designed to keep people paying for new phones and stuck in expensive plans (at least in Canada it's that way). We're so happy they throw us a few crumbs we forget they're sitting at a feast, for an analogy.
Not meaning to be too negative, the phone we have works great I think. Looking at the big picture though, we're just consumers to them in the end.
I hope treble changes things up, there's hope.

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This is another good point. We compare to other manufacturers who have super short support spans and think Motorola is doing great. None of them provide much support because they want us to buy new devices. The whole system is designed to keep people paying for new phones and stuck in expensive plans (at least in Canada it's that way). We're so happy they throw us a few crumbs we forget they're sitting at a feast, for an analogy.
Not meaning to be too negative, the phone we have works great I think. Looking at the big picture though, we're just consumers to them in the end.
I hope treble changes things up, there's hope.
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Well let's see
1) whataboutism ; while it was alluded to and I don't endorse bringing others down but peers are the natural reference point , apples to apples right !
2) 1 year support and the 2 year debate: this one is a totally different discussion. I guess the topic is a rant against Motorola , so we are debating if Motorola did good or not. But the 2 year update issue is a different issue. From Google itself there is an ownership deficit with andoid, they don't feel responsible enough for it, like say apple does for iOS. In the name of open source, they have gotten away with a lot of accountability. If today Google owns up and pushes OEMs, things can change drastically, but they won't because they are happy spreading the Google ecosystem everywhere.
3) buying new phones ; this is a value debate ie did you get enough value for the money you paid, I would say a resounding yes for this phone. Well pixels and iphones have 3 yr or 5 yrs support but the damage accordingly is nuclear to the pocket

<rant>The Moto Z Play now has the April 2018 security patch along with Oreo. Motorola has not said there will be no more updates to it. It was just the musings of some blogger who happened to make assertions without any evidence. I for one enjoy the battery life of the Z Play but prefer the Z2 Play because the carrier version has an FM radio and has more built-in storage and RAM. It also has WiFi calling for T-Mobile.
I buy the Z phones primarily because of the MODS. That is what makes these phones special. Try adding battery on any other phone as elegantly? Not possible. Perhaps they will be releasing a Hi-Fi DAC mod for the Z3 Play which could give better performance than you can get inside the phone. At least with the MOD system that is possible. If they make it 64-Bit then it will probably be a part of the Android Enterprise Recommended program which the Z2 Force is a part of, and that allows for Android security updates within 90 days of release from Google, for a minimum of two years.
I would rather all the people who don't see the value of the mods buy some other phone because any manufacturer can put a bigger battery on a phone, but no one else has created a platform that allows for elegant extensions and upgrades. You can slap on a mod and get 5G service. How many other phones out here now can be 5G ready so easily? If you read about the mod documentation you will see that they are innovating in the hardware area.</rant>

@kingstu, very well stated and totally agree, love the mods and the elegant implementation, true value add

[poll] Xiaomi A2 Future, is it dead or promising

So i bought this phone since it released in my country, i bought the 6Gb ram version and i was too excited about, Android one phone with great specs according to the price, but i am a lil bit disappointed right now,
The update releases is a bit confusing as we can see what's happening with pie updates.
The development is too slow as there no working twrp and related stuff.
Forgive my ignorance as coming from HTC M8 with its big development from its early stages , this phone disappointed me, but dont get me wrong i am happy with the phone regarding its battery life what annoying me a bit but the fast charger make it up to me.
So based on ur experience guys what do u expect guys and is the fourms going to be on fire soon or is it going to be like that all along ?

its going to be alive for sure, but you won't get first-class support, also for sure. this phone is good for people who are on a budget yet want to have a fairly up-to-date software (including security updates) and don't expect pixel-level support. If you are one of these people, A2 is probably one of the best phones you can get. But if you expect a pixel-level support then you should probably go buy pixel

It will get better, but don't expect anywhere near the support your old phone had, that was a flagship and a very successful one, I don't I've tried a quarter of the roms that were available for my m7

Yu are being given more than just descent specs for a more than descent price but no updates should be fast like google pixel ... well not gonna happen
Software r&d is not cheap as yu can see many here on xda develop on in there spare time and with donations and i dont think even though xiaomi have great revenue and sales they are yet ready to speed up the process (FOR ME UPDATES ARE ALREADY FAST ENOUGH EVEN NOW BETTER THAN MY SAMSUNG GALAXY S7 THAT WAS WORTH 49999 rs)
Moral of the story is = just because yu are given good hardware at a fine price dont expect them to give yu fast software support too ( only if yu have a pixel )
Otherwise apple phones get ios for really long time( enjoy there new emoji in every damn update )

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its going to be alive for sure, but you won't get first-class support, also for sure. this phone is good for people who are on a budget yet want to have a fairly up-to-date software (including security updates) and don't expect pixel-level support. If you are one of these people, A2 is probably one of the best phones you can get. But if you expect a pixel-level support then you should probably go buy pixel
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It will get better, but don't expect anywhere near the support your old phone had, that was a flagship and a very successful one, I don't I've tried a quarter of the roms that were available for my m7
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Yu are being given more than just descent specs for a more than descent price but no updates should be fast like google pixel ... well not gonna happen
Software r&d is not cheap as yu can see many here on xda develop on in there spare time and with donations and i dont think even though xiaomi have great revenue and sales they are yet ready to speed up the process (FOR ME UPDATES ARE ALREADY FAST ENOUGH EVEN NOW BETTER THAN MY SAMSUNG GALAXY S7 THAT WAS WORTH 49999 rs)
Moral of the story is = just because yu are given good hardware at a fine price dont expect them to give yu fast software support too ( only if yu have a pixel )
Otherwise apple phones get ios for really long time( enjoy there new emoji in every damn update )
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Mates i didn't expect pixel level of support at all, it just i didnt think Android One phone would get low development and update like that,
I can run Android pie on my M8 which pretty old phone now, but u cant run it on my 2018 Android one device, does that make any sense to you mates ??
On the other hand pocophone got it's official TWRP and keep being updated while the price difference is t that much though.

Brachogan said:
Mates i didn't expect pixel level of support at all, it just i didnt think Android One phone would get low development and update like that,
I can run Android pie on my M8 which pretty old phone now, but u cant run it on my 2018 Android one device, does that make any sense to you mates
On the other hand pocophone got it's official TWRP and keep being updated while the price difference is t that much though.
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Why the hell are yu guys quoting me when i am making the exact same point that yu made
This is a budget phone not pixel lile ( COMPARED TO MY S7 JUST TO MAKE A POINT and even if my s7 is a flagship it gets security patches at end of each month whereas this MI A2 Gets updated on start of each month and that too sometimes more than one update )

I used to use an OPO which had and to a certain extent still has a lively developer scene (It's been a few months since the first Pie popped in the forums for it).
I don't neither expect nor foresee that sort of activity over here. This is a mid-range budget phone.
Then again, at least, bootloader unlock is hassle free.

0firuz said:
I used to use an OPO which had and to a certain extent still has a lively developer scene (It's been a few months since the first Pie popped in the forums for it).
I don't neither expect nor foresee that sort of activity over here. This is a mid-range budget phone.
Then again, at least, bootloader unlock is hassle free.
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I came from an OPO myself. And kind of disappointed with lack of development for now. It's a new phone and hopefully it'll pick up. It's a good phone don't get me but it's a "meh" or "alright" phone after a few weeks. Definitely a forgettable phone. Feel like I should've gone pocophone fone (1)