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Another Verizon rant (because we need one)

My battery literally went from 100% to 5% between 8 AM and 1 PM today.
I sent and received a bunch of texts, got a few push notifications from GroupMe, and I have my MBW-200 connected via bluetooth. Thats it.
Ever since 2.3.4 its been crap, now my office here is a bit of a cell dead zone, and usually my battery only lasts till about 3-4PM, but thats almost always with more use. On 2.3.3 if I rarely used it it would last well into the evening.
This problem was nowhere near as bad with 2.3.3 .
I've been sticking it out with 2.3.4 hoping for the PS store to finally have some games. I'm very tempted to just flash this crap back and freeze mobile care.
You suck verizon.

Rogue Leader said:
My battery literally went from 100% to 5% between 8 AM and 1 PM today.
I sent and received a bunch of texts, got a few push notifications from GroupMe, and I have my MBW-200 connected via bluetooth. Thats it.
Ever since 2.3.4 its been crap, now my office here is a bit of a cell dead zone, and usually my battery only lasts till about 3-4PM, but thats almost always with more use. On 2.3.3 if I rarely used it it would last well into the evening.
This problem was nowhere near as bad with 2.3.3 .
I've been sticking it out with 2.3.4 hoping for the PS store to finally have some games. I'm very tempted to just flash this crap back and freeze mobile care.
You suck verizon.
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If you got an unlocked bootloader I'd say flash cm7 if you want gb, or cm9 if you want ics.. They have pretty good battery life now (which imo is suprising) if it's not unlocked you can use an app called android booster which is pretty sick

Sounds like good 'ol Android to me!
Sent from my R800x using XDA

agraceful said:
If you got an unlocked bootloader I'd say flash cm7 if you want gb, or cm9 if you want ics.. They have pretty good battery life now (which imo is suprising) if it's not unlocked you can use an app called android booster which is pretty sick
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I believe he is already an unlocked user, but is trying to prove a point that Verizon released a broken ROM.
Sent from R800x

Leraeniesh said:
I believe he is already an unlocked user, but is trying to prove a point that Verizon released a broken ROM.
Sent from R800x
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Exactly, I am locked actually, but my point was the ROM from Verizon is junk. If they were releasing it to get people off their backs they failed miserably.

Rogue Leader said:
Exactly, I am locked actually, but my point was the ROM from Verizon is junk. If they were releasing it to get people off their backs they failed miserably.
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Try undervolting it and install Go Launcher. It has a handy little RAM manager add-on that tells you how long you have left before the battery dies. Also, try buying RAM Manager off the Play Store.
All the above fixed my battery problems

I called Vz today to see if there was any progress on a working 2.3.4, As usual the tech I spoke to had no idea of these problems ( No google sync, No gtalk, ect..) After arguing/debating the tech on common causes, they finally agreed to call Sony. About ten minutes later the Tech came back and said the "Sony claims the 2.3.4 update for the R800x has been cancelled, and that the update would not instal on the device"
Can anyone else confirm the update no longer works as far as it not downloading? I still find it downloadable on my end...And I still find that it is still broke on my end.
Between Verizon and Sony.. were getting no support !

My battery on ICS is abysmal. I run down to 14 % after 7 hours of light use (unplug at 7:30 am, plug in at 2:30 pm). I'm going to end up having to get an extended battery. Signal is low at work, though.

216Monster said:
I called Vz today to see if there was any progress on a working 2.3.4, As usual the tech I spoke to had no idea of these problems ( No google sync, No gtalk, ect..) After arguing/debating the tech on common causes, they finally agreed to call Sony. About ten minutes later the Tech came back and said the "Sony claims the 2.3.4 update for the R800x has been cancelled, and that the update would not instal on the device"
Can anyone else confirm the update no longer works as far as it not downloading? I still find it downloadable on my end...And I still find that it is still broke on my end.
Between Verizon and Sony.. were getting no support !
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If this is really true then it has reaffirmed the fact that I am done with VZ after my contract, and has even opened me to being done with Sony as well. Way to burn your early adopters....

216Monster said:
I called Vz today to see if there was any progress on a working 2.3.4, As usual the tech I spoke to had no idea of these problems ( No google sync, No gtalk, ect..) After arguing/debating the tech on common causes, they finally agreed to call Sony. About ten minutes later the Tech came back and said the "Sony claims the 2.3.4 update for the R800x has been cancelled, and that the update would not instal on the device"
Can anyone else confirm the update no longer works as far as it not downloading? I still find it downloadable on my end...And I still find that it is still broke on my end.
Between Verizon and Sony.. were getting no support !
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It still installs 2.3.4. I had to go back to stock from CM9 because the volume is too low for my bass playing caused, hearing impaired ears and stock has plenty of volume. But 2.3.4 sucks. It's definitely broken. If someone has a method for increasing the volume on CM9 or CM7, I'd go back in a hearbeat.

If you use Cyanogenmod you can crank up the volume in the equalizer (DSP). That's what I did.

The point is that we need to root and unlock to get the battery life back to what it should be...
Sent from my R800x using Tapatalk 2

I got moderated on their Support Forum. There is a TON of posts about the 2.3.4 issue, yet the only post Verizon tech support replied to recently is 2 posts about downloading and playing music on the phone.
So I replied:
Hey how about one of you guys respond to the 30 or so threads before this about how the OTA 2.3.4 update is broken and what Verizon is doing to fix it.
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They apparently didn't like that.

Rogue Leader said:
I got moderated on their Support Forum. There is a TON of posts about the 2.3.4 issue, yet the only post Verizon tech support replied to recently is 2 posts about downloading and playing music on the phone.
So I replied:
They apparently didn't like that.
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Figures right! Every time I call VZ about, each rep and tech claims there's no record of these problems and blame it on the applications themselves. One tech even tried to tell me the service bars don't turn green... shows how much they know!
Sent from my R800x using xda premium

I have overheard conversations that the issues with the latest Verizon build were due to a late Verizon encryption requirement that broke Google applications. The issue is being mediated between Verizon and Google to root cause the problem and determine whether Google or Sony will need to issue a patch.

Kit Kat OTA users...

Hello All,
I've lurked for a fairly long time, however I have come forward from the darkness to share some problems brought to light from the KK OTA update.
It Sucks.
There is no way around this. It's laggy in every menu. When im typing anything out, whether its a text, or an email or even into a search bar Its always chopping and lagging behind a couple seconds. Its a pain to hit the home button to back out of apps or just go get out of something that stopped responding for no apparent reason.
Also, as a small business owner, It is imperative that i stay in communication with my employees and family at all time should anything arise.
The KK OTA has failed miserably in this function. I have had it happen almost everyday for the last month since i downloaded it and installed it on my device that there are periods of time in between me receiving messages and sync data(email, push notifications, etc) that can be quite long. I have noticed that sometimes i just plain don't get my text messages for hours at a time. I'm a hard-working, geeky, IT guy 100% of the time, but Im a father first. Its not okay for me to not hear back from people regardless of what the situation is, and then I step out for air at night and go for a cruise, and then all of my texts and push data suddenly hit my phone all at once, sometimes anywhere from 3-6 Hours later!!!!
Its not my reception. I have a full 5 bars at my residence and at least 4 everywhere else in town, and average speeds of 45 Down and 30Up. My brother and girlfriend also have Note 3s and experience the same and even some different issues. My girlfriend's note 3 cant stay charged longer than 6 hours. even with the phone having all the apps closed and RAM cleared and the phone in complete Airplane mode. Its gotten to the point where she always has her charger with her! We feel like iPhone users! We've gone as far as to buy 3 extended batteries and everybody gets to keep one as a spare. Often times i have 2 spares in my backpack and I swap batteries once a day. My brother has had issues with his keyboard failing to work at all and requiring an actual reboot of the device and yesterday he called me to tell me that his speaker stopped working and after 3 reboots the speaker was functioning normally again. What causes this?
To sum it up, I knew there was only one way to remedy this situation and I was dreading it. I had to call Verizon. I had to tell them that the OTA update had made my phone worthless and unusable. It was an even further long shot, but i had to request and demand a replacement Note 3 with Jellybean on it and NOT KIT KAT.
The phone was overnighted yesterday and it arrived this morning. It came with Jellybean. Flicking through the menus and settings I had forgotten what the speed had felt like. Crisp, concise and without the slightest hesitation. The main purpose of this replacement on JB was so that it could be rooted and the stock apps could be frozen through TiBu and a nice aftermarket ROM could be installed. And that's just what I'll do. I've kept my Sim in my old phone and made sure WiFi stays off on the new one until the old one is backed up and Im ready to root the new one. I cant take anymore chances with these stupid OTAs
Briefly after i had taken the OTA, I had attempted to use Kingo and vRoot(I had been out of the phone mod/root scene for a while) To my surprise it didnt work. Then i realized the boot loaders had changed and were blacklisted and there was no going back.
I've been stalking all of the similar "4.4.2 root method? threads for the last few weeks and all of the responses led me to this obvious conclusion.
Lesson Learned. READ XDA BEFORE TAKING OTAs.

Note 3 junk now.
My Note 3 after OTA:
1 in 30 chance of not seeing "mobile network not available"- and actually making a phone call.
Random reboots
Short battery life
Hot
Crappy visual voicemail trial hard to disable
Overall, my Note 3 which ran perfectly before the update, is junk now.
VZW only has one answer- refurb.
How's about a fix!

I with you. Was so excited about the update until i got it. Phone havent been the same since. I have to hit airplane mode about 10 times a day to get 4g back. The phone button just hangs and take forever to respone. The whole phone now is very slow. I calling verizon when i get a day off. Really thinking about ditching samsung altogether. Their not what they use to be
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droidfreak02 said:
I with you. Was so excited about the update until i got it. Phone havent been the same since. I have to hit airplane mode about 10 times a day to get 4g back. The phone button just hangs and take forever to respone. The whole phone now is very slow. I calling verizon when i get a day off. Really thinking about ditching samsung altogether. Their not what they use to be
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I know Samsung can do better than what they're doing right now. But the simple fact that Verizon was 2 months late to the KitKat party with a ****ty OTA to boot makes my blood boil. Currently running Hyperdrive Rom and I have not regrets.
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So any suggestions? Really don't want a refurb if possible for their screw up but i need a phone that works. The guy at the vzw store did tell me a fix was in the works Just wait?

charge1 said:
So any suggestions? Really don't want a refurb if possible for their screw up but i need a phone that works. The guy at the vzw store did tell me a fix was in the works Just wait?
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Hey guys, I experienced many of these issues as well but have since resolved them.
First, any auto killers that you are running will lag the system big time! I dont know the technicals of why this happens but I experimented on my phone and it happens. SO AVOID AUTO KILLER APPS.
Second, this is in addition to the above suggestion. If you still have problems, a clean re-install might solve it. You can simply use kies or the verizon upgrade app which you can download with a little google search. Repair the installation or install clean (even better) to clear these issues up.
Again, I don't know the technicals but this worked for me after a good amount of experimentation and it's working fine until a root is available.
Best of luck!

Yotaphone 2 new firmware released - LRX21M.5.0.0-RU1.1.134

My Chinese Yotaphone 2, which I flashed with RU firmware 124 last week, is currently downloading a new firmware. The version number is 134 and here is what's new. Information taken from the update screen.
- Yotahelp
Discover your YOTAPHONE - you can find detailed information about system updates, tips and tutorials here
- Maximum Power Save
Power saving mode, which gives access to both displays and basic functions to the phone
- App optimization
Make the battery last longer by disabling background apps that drain it
- Smile for the camera update
Create your own camers shutters and use them during shooting; viewfinder on the always-on display added
- Notification widget
Keep up with the latest happenings by checking new notifications on the always-on display
- Fast contacts
Quick access to your favorite messengers in Contacts widget on the always-on display
- Application switcher
Quick switching between two most recently used apps by tapping recent apps button twice
What else
Now you can set up events' notfications on the always-on display in Events widget settings
The system update includes the Android Security Patch of September 2016

I am currently on the fence about buying one of these. Efox currently have the white version for £108 to the UK.
Only thing putting me off is reports of very bad battery drains. Plus I would love to know if anyone has actually got contactless payments to work with NFC. I read that id did support Android pay but an update killed it. I would use it with Barclays tap and pay if I could.
I have no issues with it being stuck on lollipop at all but would like it to last me all day with light usage and payments work etc.

waj1234 said:
I am currently on the fence about buying one of these. Efox currently have the white version for £108 to the UK.
Only thing putting me off is reports of very bad battery drains. Plus I would love to know if anyone has actually got contactless payments to work with NFC. I read that id did support Android pay but an update killed it. I would use it with Barclays tap and pay if I could.
I have no issues with it being stuck on lollipop at all but would like it to last me all day with light usage and payments work etc.
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I use the Yotaphone (RU firmware 124) as my second phone so I mostly use the second screen and haven't had any issues with the battery life. Easily lasting two days. Can't help you with your contacless payments question as I don't use that.

waj1234 said:
I am currently on the fence about buying one of these. Efox currently have the white version for £108 to the UK.
Only thing putting me off is reports of very bad battery drains. Plus I would love to know if anyone has actually got contactless payments to work with NFC. I read that id did support Android pay but an update killed it. I would use it with Barclays tap and pay if I could.
I have no issues with it being stuck on lollipop at all but would like it to last me all day with light usage and payments work etc.
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I bought mine from Efox and received it last week. Using it a week now, I can recommend it, but with some sidenotes.
When you think of using the phone for two days without charging, that's hardly real life. Android keeps on draining the battery, even when you don't use it.
It does so on all Android-devices by the way, only Apple seems to have that covered waaay better. In one noght my battery level went from 30% to 8, without any usage of the screen.
Also this device sometimes gets really hot when using it. I have high hopes for the firmware it is downloading just as I'm typing this...
The EPD is very cool and a headturner, so if that's what you are looking for, BUY IT!

j0p3y said:
I bought mine from Efox and received it last week. Using it a week now, I can recommend it, but with some sidenotes.
When you think of using the phone for two days without charging, that's hardly real life. Android keeps on draining the battery, even when you don't use it.
It does so on all Android-devices by the way, only Apple seems to have that covered waaay better. In one noght my battery level went from 30% to 8, without any usage of the screen.
Also this device sometimes gets really hot when using it. I have high hopes for the firmware it is downloading just as I'm typing this...
The EPD is very cool and a headturner, so if that's what you are looking for, BUY IT!
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I never expect a phone to last more than a day as always charge when I go to bed. But would be nice if it lasted a day with light to normal use.
It will not bother me if it stops getting support but would be good if the get it running smooth with no heating issues and decent battery before they dump it etc. Will see what the update does to it.
If anyone in UK could test either android pay or barclays banking apps built in tap to pay I would appreciate it.

waj1234 said:
I am currently on the fence about buying one of these. Efox currently have the white version for £108 to the UK.
Only thing putting me off is reports of very bad battery drains. Plus I would love to know if anyone has actually got contactless payments to work with NFC. I read that id did support Android pay but an update killed it. I would use it with Barclays tap and pay if I could.
I have no issues with it being stuck on lollipop at all but would like it to last me all day with light usage and payments work etc.
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I ordered mine from tinydeal EU/DE warehouse (~144€) on saturday, just got tracking notification it's waiting me at the post office
I think NFC (payment) is disabled only when you're using power saving mode.

kbal said:
I ordered mine from tinydeal EU/DE warehouse (~144€) on saturday, just got tracking notification it's waiting me at the post office
I think NFC (payment) is disabled only when you're using power saving mode.
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I was tempted to get it from efox eu as its 154 euro delivered to UK or its £103 from Hong Kong for white version. Its £129 from tinydeal to UK since exchange rate is so poor currently.
Just got to decide if I want it quick from Germany or slow from Hong Kong now plus which colour looks best.

i can't get the update installed , it's donwloading then reboot in TWRP but not update.
Any idea ? ^^

waj1234 said:
I was tempted to get it from efox eu as its 154 euro delivered to UK or its £103 from Hong Kong for white version. Its £129 from tinydeal to UK since exchange rate is so poor currently.
Just got to decide if I want it quick from Germany or slow from Hong Kong now plus which colour looks best.
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Don't you have to pay taxes it it's from outside of EU?
And good luck getting a white one, they are rarer than [insert rare thing].

kbal said:
Don't you have to pay taxes it it's from outside of EU?
And good luck getting a white one, they are rarer than [insert rare thing].
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Never paid taxes from china/hong kong to uk especially on low value such as this. All they have is white in hong kong currently and its the international YD201 version where I think the tinydeal one is YD206?
http://en.efox-shop.com/yotaphone-2...dschirm-android-44-4g-l-g-297740?currency=GBP

satsuki_yatoshi said:
i can't get the update installed , it's donwloading then reboot in TWRP but not update.
Any idea ? ^^
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Having soms problems myself as well. My phone tried downloading the update several times today, very slowly (20 kb/s), and cancelled the download every time. Now it's saying there is no new download. while still on version 124.

VirtuaLeech said:
Having soms problems myself as well. My phone tried downloading the update several times today, very slowly (20 kb/s), and cancelled the download every time. Now it's saying there is no new download. while still on version 124.
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Same here, my phone says that system is already updated

Excuse me, i have one question, i have yotaphone 2 and the latest firmware is android 4.4 , maybe because is the international version, how can i upgrade? Please help me

Benja99932 said:
Excuse me, i have one question, i have yotaphone 2 and the latest firmware is android 4.4 , maybe because is the international version, how can i upgrade? Please help me
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If you read through this post you should be able to upgrade to the latest firmware. http://forum.xda-developers.com/yotaphone-one/help/yotaphone-2-yd-206-china-flash-firmware-t3306797

The update finally downloaded and installed and everything looks fine so far. Especially Yotahelp is eh... helpfull in explaning the new options. The new widgets look cool and overall it seems like a nice update.

Benja99932 said:
Excuse me, i have one question, i have yotaphone 2 and the latest firmware is android 4.4 , maybe because is the international version, how can i upgrade? Please help me
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waj1234 said:
I never expect a phone to last more than a day as always charge when I go to bed. But would be nice if it lasted a day with light to normal use.
It will not bother me if it stops getting support but would be good if the get it running smooth with no heating issues and decent battery before they dump it etc. Will see what the update does to it.
If anyone in UK could test either android pay or barclays banking apps built in tap to pay I would appreciate it.
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In the New Power Safe mode in firmware version 134 there is an option to put NFC wallet in Power Safe mode or not. This would suggesties that the NFC wallet is still in there.

Updated after a new try without any bug so far... let's wait and see ^^

The update is about 182MB. So far so good

VirtuaLeech said:
I use the Yotaphone (RU firmware 124) as my second phone so I mostly use the second screen and haven't had any issues with the battery life. Easily lasting two days. Can't help you with your contacless payments question as I don't use that.
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I am on EU 124 and likewise don't have a problem with battery life. Only undertook one test which was not touching the phone 14 hours, the battery deceased by 9 percent.
I haven't actually tried a contactless payment but I have been able to add a credit card to android pay which has been the problem point with other phones I have tried. Also the Barclay's app works perfectly which is a pretty good test of a phones security posture.
I am not sure whether to install RU 134 because everything is working so well and I believe, though I could be wrong, that I did have a problem with android pay on RU 124.

VirtuaLeech said:
Having soms problems myself as well. My phone tried downloading the update several times today, very slowly (20 kb/s), and cancelled the download every time. Now it's saying there is no new download. while still on version 124.
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Downloads are really slow, servers are doing overtime in Russia I guess
I managed to download and install the update yesterday, it has added some more functionality I have briefly tried a bit.
Nice to see there's stil development going on.
Would be a great surprise when they would present us an Android 6.0 update.... but I'm afraid that's really wishful thinking.
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Since updating yesterday, I'm on LRX21M.5.0.0-RU1.1.134 now.
Battery life still isn't great.
At YotaEnergy, there's an extra option called App optimisation. It kills apps when they aren't used for the last 3-5-7-14 days (selectable).
I enabled that option, but I'm not sure if it is on when YotaEnergy is Off. The 'App Optimisation'-option derives a level below YotaEnergy, so disabling YotaEnergy might as well disable every sub-option on lower level.....
Enabling YotaEnergy does put the phone in batterysaving mode (top and low bar in orange), even when I setup the rule that it only might be activated on battery level (Power save mode only when batterylevel is below 15%).
A bit strange behaviour in my opinion.

LG V20 H990DS Firmware Update V10b-Nov-25-2016

Hi,
i just received an OTA update:
V10b-Nov-25-2016
Changelog just stated that usability and functionality of the smartphone has been improved.
Has anybody else already received this? Did anybody notice changes?
Kind regards,
BrowsingMan

received, but nothing to report, works exactly as before

Just updated last night. Seems normal

Received it as well last night. There was a bit of instability for the first hour or so. Lagging etc and one automatic reboot, but I'm guessing that was just due to the OS system settling down.
This morning everything seems normal as before.

Any improvement in auto shots with the camera?

Feemy82 said:
Received it as well last night. There was a bit of instability for the first hour or so. Lagging etc and one automatic reboot, but I'm guessing that was just due to the OS system settling down.
This morning everything seems normal as before.
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Same happened to me. I rebooted a few times which didn't fix it which got me worried, but by the morning it was fine.
I don't mean to derail the thread but is there any custom support for this phone model? I'm mainly only seeing support for the H918. I'd love to root once its available and safe but it seems like this is one of those odd models out that no one really cares about.

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Same happened to me. I rebooted a few times which didn't fix it which got me worried, but by the morning it was fine.
I don't mean to derail the thread but is there any custom support for this phone model? I'm mainly only seeing support for the H918. I'd love to root once its available and safe but it seems like this is one of those odd models out that no one really cares about.
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Can you guys check/time your fast charge using OEM cable and charger? It doesn't seem to work for me, ot at least not prior to the OTA update on every ocassion. I've had instability issues when the phone gets a little hot/warm, if left in direct sunlight for 15 minutes, etc. I'm going to thoroughly test this out before posting anjy reviews. So far, not impressed with the loudspeaker.
I also don't want to update the phone yet incase the "impending" root solution, if one comes about, happens to be software-version-specific, since we are dealing with a phone on a locked bootloader.
RoOSTA

something i have noticed since the update is a huge improvement in reception... now almost all the time it's 4-5 bars for each sim, on lte and 3g, whereas before i used to pick up my phone and see only 1-2 bars... especially at home.
i must specify that i never had a problem calling or browsing even with 1-2 bars, never lost connection during a call, cristal clear voice. so maybe before it was simply showing less bars than it really was? anyway, just my feedback
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roosta said:
Can you guys check/time your fast charge using OEM cable and charger? It doesn't seem to work for me, ot at least not prior to the OTA update on every ocassion. I've had instability issues when the phone gets a little hot/warm, if left in direct sunlight for 15 minutes, etc. I'm going to thoroughly test this out before posting anjy reviews. So far, not impressed with the loudspeaker.
I also don't want to update the phone yet incase the "impending" root solution, if one comes about, happens to be software-version-specific, since we are dealing with a phone on a locked bootloader.
RoOSTA
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from 5% to 100% it takes about 1 hour and a quarter

Yep , received the update yesterday. No comment on the update work just like normal. ?

Hey guys.
I installed the LG PC Bridge and, among other things, I decided to check for a software update. It informed me one was available, which seemed odd, because I had checked yesterday O.T.A. and had found nothing.
Anyway, I disconnected the phone and checked again and true enough the 10b update was available (still found it weird that it said Nov. 25 though) at approx. 730MB, but I decided to reconnect and use Bridge to update.
I began the process and it said the download size was 2.9GB! That's a huge difference. O.T.A. still shows the update at 730MB. Does anyone know if there any differences??

DL1138 said:
Hey guys.
I installed the LG PC Bridge and, among other things, I decided to check for a software update. It informed me one was available, which seemed odd, because I had checked yesterday O.T.A. and had found nothing.
Anyway, I disconnected the phone and checked again and true enough the 10b update was available (still found it weird that it said Nov. 25 though) at approx. 730MB, but I decided to reconnect and use Bridge to update.
I began the process and it said the download size was 2.9GB! That's a huge difference. O.T.A. still shows the update at 730MB. Does anyone know if there any differences??
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i guess bridge is offering you the full package instead of the incremental update, but the outcome should be the same

Does anyone notice any difference?
Mine works great before and after update....
Everything looks really good...I think that the problem with keyboard is a little improved....I'm talking about next word suggestion...

Mine has just been updated to 10b as well. So far everything is working great but I've only just starting using the phone so I can't comment on what was fixed over the last release.

Phone is getting warm and battery drops quicker for me. Anyone has the same problem?
Also, please check your Data usage for Google Docs, Slides and Drive. i don't use it but it still has backgroud data running! Do u have same issue?

Just updated to v10d released December 26 Changelog says performance improvement and improvement to home. Screen but I haven't noticed any changed neither I'm speed nor in options

Did you receive the update via PC Bridge or OTA?

in SEA region, we're still stuck with V10c

I bought mine in Philippines, and since the middle of December (more or less) I am with the 10e version, and still trying to realize how many other versions LG needs to release for the phone have a good usability.
Same for the LG G5, that is in the first Nougat version and it's in the box (both).

albireox said:
Did you receive the update via PC Bridge or OTA?
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i got it via OTA and i went straight from v10b to v10d i didnt receive any update for v10c

I received the OTA update V10F-IND-xx about a week ago. Talked about performance improvement. Post the update the battery performance has gone to hell. It would easily pump out about 6 hours SOT which has now dropped to about 4 hours. Also, have noticed slight to medium heating under the power key when using apps that access data over wifi.Unrooted. Anyone know if it's possible to roll back the update without rooting? OR any quick fix to this problem.
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Buy now recommended?

I bought essential phone couple of months ago and was thoroughly disappointed because of several reasons, battery drain, call quality issues and very bland software too bare for my liking also it was well overpriced.
Now that price has dropped and have an opportunity for buying for far less. However I would like to ask current buyers if the same issues I mentioned above are still prevalent? Would you recommend buying this over other similar priced phones around £420
Thanks for your help

riz157 said:
I bought essential phone couple of months ago and was thoroughly disappointed because of several reasons, battery drain, call quality issues and very bland software too bare for my liking also it was well overpriced.
Now that price has dropped and have an opportunity for buying for far less. However I would like to ask current buyers if the same issues I mentioned above are still prevalent? Would you recommend buying this over other similar priced phones around £420
Thanks for your help
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I bought mine during the black friday promotion (phone + free camera) for $157 including paid off lease and purchase option from Sprint. I also got a free 360 camera delivered last week. I sideloaded the Oreo beta 2 firmware from Essential website and I can tell you that it is much...much better than before. Try it yourself and find out!

If you're complaining about bland software then you should probably skip it.
It is still essentially stock Android.
(Which is why I bought it)
But everything else is working great for me. Cell reception is equal to my Op5, haven't had any complaints about call quality and battery life is incredible

This battery life is best of any Android I've had
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I bought mine 3 weeks ago, went straight to Oreo beta, and update via OTA to beta 2. Even within those 3 weeks, huge improvements were made. I am absolutely happy with this phone, and I am coming from a Oneplus One (which was my favorite phone ever).

Caltinpla said:
I bought mine during the black friday promotion (phone + free camera) for $157 including paid off lease and purchase option from Sprint. I also got a free 360 camera delivered last week. I sideloaded the Oreo beta 2 firmware from Essential website and I can tell you that it is much...much better than before. Try it yourself and find out!
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Does the signal strength still fluctuate a lot and gets lower reception on Oreo Beta 2?

Charkatak said:
Does the signal strength still fluctuate a lot and gets lower reception on Oreo Beta 2?
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I've never encountered those problems, but I believe the Oreo beta fixed those that were Nougat problems. Also on T-Mobile, and it's signal is easily as good if not better than my Oneplus One.

reverenddak said:
I've never encountered those problems, but I believe the Oreo beta fixed those that were Nougat problems. Also on T-Mobile, and it's signal is easily as good if not better than my Oneplus One.
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The signal seemed just lower than few of my phone that I compared it with. In a good area there are no issues, in an area with not ideal reception, Essential gets even lower signal. I am thinking about Oreo Beta, but if Essential releases it within a week, then there is no point in getting the beta.

I am VERY happy with my phone.

Call quality has been pretty good on Oreo beta 2. Haven't had any dropped calls or other issues. Battery has improved on Oreo. I can easily go all day and get 5-6 hrs SoT. The software is pretty much the same stock Android experience. It's not for everyone but I usually go for phones with stock or near stock Android (Moto X Pure, Nexus 6, 5x, 6P, OP3T). I've really enjoyed the PH-1 but it still might not be the right phone for you.

Charkatak said:
The signal seemed just lower than few of my phone that I compared it with. In a good area there are no issues, in an area with not ideal reception, Essential gets even lower signal. I am thinking about Oreo Beta, but if Essential releases it within a week, then there is no point in getting the beta.
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Did you mean the official Oreo releases within a week? Where did you get that info?
The Oreo beta 2 has been great and stable...no problems at all.

Caltinpla said:
Did you mean the official Oreo releases within a week? Where did you get that info?
The Oreo beta 2 has been great and stable...no problems at all.
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I think he's just guessing. Although Essential did give. January time frame if I'm not mistaken.
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Caltinpla said:
Did you mean the official Oreo releases within a week? Where did you get that info?
The Oreo beta 2 has been great and stable...no problems at all.
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I meant official release. I also wrote "If" essential" releases Oreo to the public soon enough, then there would be no point for me to sideload beta.

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I meant official release. I also wrote "If" essential" releases Oreo to the public soon enough, then there would be no point for me to sideload beta.
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I would side load it. I took the plunge with beta 2 and happy I did just runs smoother and battery life is good. I did have to do a factory reset because of weird issues I was having with my brightness slider and quick settings but the reset fixed everything and u enjoy the UI changes and the fact I can theme my phone without having to root the phone.
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dandan2980 said:
I would side load it. I took the plunge with beta 2 and happy I did just runs smoother and battery life is good. I did have to do a factory reset because of weird issues I was having with my brightness slider and quick settings but the reset fixed everything and u enjoy the UI changes and the fact I can theme my phone without having to root the phone.
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Is it true that you would need to sideload the first beta and then do OTA to get the 2nd?

Charkatak said:
Is it true that you would need to sideload the first beta and then do OTA to get the 2nd?
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I went straight to beta 2 from Nougat
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dandan2980 said:
I went straight to beta 2 from Nougat
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Interesting...good to know.
I have also read many threads where users report that factory reset fixed glitches which were a result of Oreo beta sideload. Do you know which issues could occur from Oreo beta?

riz157 said:
I bought essential phone couple of months ago and was thoroughly disappointed because of several reasons, battery drain, call quality issues and very bland software too bare for my liking also it was well overpriced.
Now that price has dropped and have an opportunity for buying for far less. However I would like to ask current buyers if the same issues I mentioned above are still prevalent? Would you recommend buying this over other similar priced phones around £420
Thanks for your help
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Most of us who chose this phone did so for the stock experience. (bland software) as you put it.
Being thoroughly disappointed and getting it again is like remarrying your ex lol.
I do not have any issues with call quality or battery drain and I paid about 150US. for a new sprint unlocked version.
Knowing this, paying 420 might still make it seem too expensive for you in the end.
Ebay and swappa here in the US are selling these things cheap not sure about the UK though.
With all the sprint phones out there the value on resale will be minimal.

Charkatak said:
Interesting...good to know.
I have also read many threads where users report that factory reset fixed glitches which were a result of Oreo beta sideload. Do you know which issues could occur from Oreo beta?
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I was just experiencing issues where I could not swipe my brightness slider and then trying to touch on the side of it would activate one if my quick settings, also my phone's visual voicemail wasn't working but everything was back to normal and haven't had any problems since I factory reset the phone
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dandan2980 said:
I was just experiencing issues where I could not swipe my brightness slider and then trying to touch on the side of it would activate one if my quick settings, also my phone's visual voicemail wasn't working but everything was back to normal and haven't had any problems since I factory reset the phone
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I just sideloaded Oreo 2 beta and when it finished, the phone booted properly. I started to play with it, but after about 10 min, phone rebooted and was in that reboot state(spinning dots) for about 5 min, then booted properly. There is no indication what has caused that, but for now the phone seems normal. I have Pebble app running and notification shade shows "Pebble is running in the background" and I am trying to remove that notification, but haven't found a way to do that just yet.