Hi im on stock latest oreo now.
I want to root or install custom rom+kernel without losing samsung pass and private folder.
Is there any way to use Samsung Pass and Secure Folder on root?
I know all other apps are working with root. Magisk Knox Faker Isn't working for only these apps.
I don't think there is any custom rom available with samsung pass but I'm not sure about private folder and besides that knox faker thing 0×0 in magisk is just to keep your heart in real life knox is already 0×1 which means no secure folder no samsung pay no samsung pass and no samsung health even if you flash stock firmware.
Rajinder Singh Bedi said:
I don't think there is any custom rom available with samsung pass but I'm not sure about private folder and besides that knox faker thing 0×0 in magisk is just to keep your heart in real life knox is already 0×1 which means no secure folder no samsung pay no samsung pass and no samsung health even if you flash stock firmware.
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your last sentence is wrong. you can use all apps include samsung health except samsung pass, pay, secure folder.
tosunkaya said:
your last sentence is wrong. you can use all apps include samsung health except samsung pass, pay, secure folder.
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I meant after flashing stock firmware without root even Samsung Health won't work neither would samsung pay or samsung pass and nor would secure folder to make the samsung health work on stock firmware after tripping knox you need to be rooted.
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Greetings,
I've recently bought a Samsung A3 (sm-a300fu) cell phone, without knowing about all the KNOX goodness that lie within-
Since I would like to root it (basically for backup purposes), I was wondering how tripping the KNOX protection would interfere with "normal" everyday usage: I can bare with a triangle notification staying the status bar, but anyone can confir me if there will be other blockable notification (eg. during boot)?
I've checked chainfire's CF-Auto-Root page, but no valid firmware is available (mine is a A300FUITV1AOB3 build): eventually, how can I extract a valid recovery.img without having root permissions?
Thanks everybody!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/q-galaxy-a3-sm-a300m-lollipop-cwm-twrp-t3160165
Hugo Caixeta said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/development/q-galaxy-a3-sm-a300m-lollipop-cwm-twrp-t3160165
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This link did not quite answer my question, but was useful for finding the Lollipop version stock ROM for my phone...
Anyway, in case if anybody needed it, it is possible to root the phone using the KTU84P.A300FUXXU1ANL4 CF-Auto-Root build.
Tripping the KNOX protection doesn't change anything in the UI: no boot alerts (except for a single alert on the boot after root), no tringle-away-style notifications...
OK. I just bought this new thing and am looking for some feedback before I even think about installing custom recoveries, ROMs, APP's, etc.
On GSMArena.com my device is listed as the i9505. Everything matches up except the model version under "About device" where it states it as being the SPH-L720T (Baseband L720TVUJOH2).
Now what I want to know is, is that just carrier branding or is my phone indeed the i9505 and will all of the i9505 stuff work on it? It may seem like a silly question but I just paid $300 for this thing and the last thing I want to do is brick it.
The reason why I am asking all of this is because Samsung seem incapable of releasing a fully functioning or secure ROM (Stage-fright issues, widgets draw crashing on "Touchwiz" UI, etc). The current Android version I am running is "Lollipop" build 5.0.1 (official).
Which brings me to my next question: I noticed that my device has "KNOX" installed. Is there any way to install custom ROMs and/or recoveries without tripping it? I want to try to avoid voiding the warranty if possible.
Also this is an unlocked device so will flashing custom ROMs disable that?
Thanks.
I have an s4 with i9500 on it but i reality its an SPH-720T. You can know for sure in the bootloader
So far I had no problem installing i9505 ROMs like 'Super WizCyan, Albe95 S6, Imperium LL Rom' and i am corrently using Albe95 LolliROM 6.0 and it works fine :good: with the latest SPH-720T carnal (OH1) an the Imperium Karnal works too (v2.6)
It is rooted with CF-Auto-Root for SPH-720 and I have TWRP Recovery instaled
Grumpy Cat said:
OK. I just bought this new thing and am looking for some feedback before I even think about installing custom recoveries, ROMs, APP's, etc.
On GSMArena.com my device is listed as the i9505. Everything matches up except the model version under "About device" where it states it as being the SPH-L720T (Baseband L720TVUJOH2).
Now what I want to know is, is that just carrier branding or is my phone indeed the i9505 and will all of the i9505 stuff work on it? It may seem like a silly question but I just paid $300 for this thing and the last thing I want to do is brick it.
The reason why I am asking all of this is because Samsung seem incapable of releasing a fully functioning or secure ROM (Stage-fright issues, widgets draw crashing on "Touchwiz" UI, etc). The current Android version I am running is "Lollipop" build 5.0.1 (official).
Which brings me to my next question: I noticed that my device has "KNOX" installed. Is there any way to install custom ROMs and/or recoveries without tripping it? I want to try to avoid voiding the warranty if possible.
Also this is an unlocked device so will flashing custom ROMs disable that?
Thanks.
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Boot into download mode. What does it say your model is in download mode?
The SPH-L720T is just carrier branding. It should be an I9505.
Installing a custom recovery will trip knox. You will have to stay stock if you don't want to trip knox. But beware, knox doesn't like root. Meaning that you will have random reboots if you root your phone and knox is installed.
I recommend reading your warranty document to see what kind of damages it covers. I read mine and it concluded that my warranty covers excrements. So I tripped knox after the first month.
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Boot into download mode. What does it say your model is in download mode?
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It says SPH-L720T. But according to GDReaper (and the online specs) it is carrier branding.
GDReaper said:
The SPH-L720T is just carrier branding. It should be an I9505.
Installing a custom recovery will trip knox. You will have to stay stock if you don't want to trip knox. But beware, knox doesn't like root. Meaning that you will have random reboots if you root your phone and knox is installed.
I recommend reading your warranty document to see what kind of damages it covers. I read mine and it concluded that my warranty covers excrements. So I tripped knox after the first month.
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Crap, I might have already tripped it installing SuperSU (through Play Store, and that's all it took to root it). Under download mode it says "Knox warranty void 0x1". Does that mean I tripped it?
That said, no random reboots the only issue I have is that I can't access the widgets app draw on Touchwiz UI without an FC (but I use a Nova Launcher anyway), and i9505 stuff should work with mine, right? I am thinking about installing EchoeROM, provided it doesn't have the problems the "official" one does.
Knox default status is 0x0
Any modifications done to the bootloader will make it 0x1 which means knox has been triggered.
Since it is already tripped, you might as well flash a custom recovery.
The SPH-L720T has the same specs as the normal GT-I9505 S4. You can compare them yourself.
It is just a rebranded I9505.
I get that it is just a rebranded version of the GT-i9505 but I had to make absolutely sure. In other threads some are saying they have issues. And since I have "screwed the pooch" and tripped KNOX (unless Chainfire's "Triangle Away" can reset the counter), I might as well start flashing then.
I was just reading over this article on how to deal with KNOX and it doesn't seem to cause any issues for me since I am already rooted via Super SU. Will I have to remove it anyway or can I just go ahead and flash TWRP via Odin (can you recommend any version?) without any issues? And is CF-Auto-Root really necessary? I have some experience with all of this from rooting and flashing my old S3 MINI, KNOX and CF-Auto-Root are the only two I'm not sure about.
Oddly enough, while it does say that KNOX (and KNOX II) is installed I can't find the shortcut as described in the article. This is a refurbished phone so god knows what has been done to it.
Thanks.
CF-Auto-Root is only needed for rooting. Since you are already rooted, you don't need it.
As far as I know, Knox status 0x1 is permanent. It can't be changed back to 0x0. The flash counter is a different thing. It shows how many times a firmware has been flashed on the device. I'm not sure if stock roms cout towards your flash counter.
If you have no issues with Knox and root then there is no reason to remove knox.
You can simply flash twrp from their site. The variant you're looking for is for the Qualcomm S4. I used Odin 1.85 and 3.09 with success in the past.
Welcome.
Few weeks ago I bought Samsung J7 2017 (SM-J730F).
I need to root my device,because I want to install apps which need root, and uninstall a lot of unussed apps.
Can You send me best guide to root my device?
Please, tell me about Knox. After root warranty will be canceled?
Additionally - I read about Samsung Apps (Samsung Health etc).
After roots Samsung apps not working - it is true?
Sorry for my english...
If you root, Knox will be tripped
you lose Samsung pay,Samsung health, secure folder etc.
warranty becomes void
snoedew said:
If you root, Knox will be tripped
you lose Samsung pay,Samsung health, secure folder etc.
warranty becomes void
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And anyone will care if they lose those things you mentiioned because? :silly:
Hi all....I root on nougat now I have newest Ron and bootloader nougat crgh on don't and when I'm want run Samsung health or Samsung pay show me windows not for root device how I can un root but once I root but is 1 year ago and now still is there please help Cheers..
dziubdziok said:
Hi all....I root on nougat now I have newest Ron and bootloader nougat crgh on don't and when I'm want run Samsung health or Samsung pay show me windows not for root device how I can un root but once I root but is 1 year ago and now still is there please help Cheers..
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What method did you use to root your phone?
You can use an app like rootbeer sample from playstore or APK mirror site to check root status
In regards to Shealth and Samsung pay not working is more likely due to the fact that you have tripped your Knox
dziubdziok said:
Hi all....I root on nougat now I have newest Ron and bootloader nougat crgh on don't and when I'm want run Samsung health or Samsung pay show me windows not for root device how I can un root but once I root but is 1 year ago and now still is there please help Cheers..
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Knox is hardware + software security locking system installed on your phone.
Once you install/flash unofficial firmware-recovery on your phone, the E-FUSE of Knox will be tripped physically.
There is no software bypass to FULLY UNROOT Latest Samsung flagship. The only way is to replace physical board with new Knox module in it. Only samsung service center are eligible to do.
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Introduction
Hi, I was thinking about rooting my S8 after seeing a lot of videos on YouTube and forum posts about the benefits of it and using Magisk Modules, but I'm wondering, is it possible to do it without tripping Knox? I'm a heavy user of the Secure Folder, Galaxy Store, Samsung Cloud, and S-Health app and I don't want to lose that functionality since I heard that after tripping Knox those apps become useless since they won't start at all or give an error that "secure space/ Knox cannot be initialized".
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On Short: I want to know if:
Rooting without tripping Knox works.
If not, is there any way to keep the functionality of S-Health, Samsung Cloud, Secure Folder, Galaxy Store
Are there any workaround for running (for example) Magisk Modules/root apps without the need of root
If all of the above are negative, are there any other apps that keep the same functionality as the ones listed above (not Magisk, the Samsung ones)
Long Explanation:
I would use any other Health App, but S-Health has always kept all my devices up-to-date between one and another without any headache, Secure Folder is the only "secure" workspace app I trust since it has hardware-level security on the S8 because of that Knox thing (or so I heard). I know that they aren't the only ones with the same functionality, but they have official certifications and that matters in my opinion. I'm open to more suggestions.
The reason I want to root my phone is that I like to customize my phone a lot, but not as deep as to changing my ROM.
I will answer any other question if it helps, but if there is a middle ground that lets me use root apps like Magisk and not losing Knox functionality, I'm 100% all ears.
The short answer is no. Also if you try to root anyway make sure of your exact model and current firmware of your phone. Any US S8 with Snapdragon and bootloader above 5 cannot be rooted.
bigalbklyn said:
The short answer is no. Also if you try to root anyway make sure of your exact model and current firmware of your phone. Any US S8 with Snapdragon and bootloader above 5 cannot be rooted.
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I do know what version my S8 (G950F Exynos) is and the firmware (G950FXXS4DSC2/G950FOXM4DSBA/G950FXXU4DSBA)
PROGamer_199 said:
I do know what version my S8 (G950F Exynos) is and the firmware (G950FXXS4DSC2/G950FOXM4DSBA/G950FXXU4DSBA)
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1. Yes you can root your phone
2. Modifying your phone will trip your knox.ie:custom recovery,root,kernels,custom ROMs etc.There is no fix for a tripped Knox.
3. You can not root/modify your phone without tripping Knox.
4. With a tripped Knox you will lose Samsung pay,secure folder S health and other Knox related apps and services.
Note:There is a workaround to get S health running on tripped Knox.
As for alternatives I don't really know as I don't use any of these applications.
5. Things like Galaxy store and cloud storage will still work.
6. You may lose OTA updates and will have to do them manually as they come out.
As to customisation of your phone there are non root methods out there but really depends on what you want to do.
spawnlives said:
1. Yes you can root your phone
2. Modifying your phone will trip your knox.ie:custom recovery,root,kernels,custom ROMs etc.There is no fix for a tripped Knox.
3. You can not root/modify your phone without tripping Knox.
4. With a tripped Knox you will lose Samsung pay,secure folder S health and other Knox related apps and services.
Note:There is a workaround to get S health running on tripped Knox.
As for alternatives I don't really know as I don't use any of these applications.
5. Things like Galaxy store and cloud storage will still work.
6. You may lose OTA updates and will have to do them manually as they come out.
As to customisation of your phone there are non root methods out there but really depends on what you want to do.
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Thanks for the response, this answer is good enough for me to stop from rooting, since I use those apps a bit too much on a daily basis. I will close this thread now since its no good to keep it open for no reason.