Hey guys,
my 6+ died, being my companion for 3 years now, had in the past some samsung devices too (note 1 and 3, the latest still going strong) but i always liked Sony design and wanted to try one.
Now budget wise i can afford the XZs (the 5.2" screen and being waterproof is what made me interested in this phone), the problem is that i need a phone that last at least one day.
I dont play games, i might watch a couple of tvshow, listen to music around 2 hours, randomly surfing facebook and other socials for about 4h... from what i read Oreo killed the battery, which for me it's a big turn off.
Here in HK, the phone is still sold with Nougat, and from what i understand this release has no issue, my problem is, does the phone automatically update to Oreo?
I have to buy a new phone by this weekend, i hope you guys can give me some good advices, i usually keep a phone 2 years, and i m being out of the "Andorid smart" world for a long time, i just want a good phone that would last me 1 day with a casual use like mine.
(XZ PREMIUM, i considered it but it's too off my budget)
Xperia will prompt you for update to Oreo, you can choose not to update.
I'm on Oreo now, but no battery problem so far.
CressKH said:
Xperia will prompt you for update to Oreo, you can choose not to update.
I'm on Oreo now, but no battery problem so far.
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But the battery with normal usage can get me through a day (or late evening at least, from 7am to 11pm more or less)?
thx for your feedback btw
From your usage and a brand new phone's battery, shouldn't be a problem
Its worth it, my xz died due water damage and i get the XZs and i feel sure the difference, trully love it
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Kamusta mga HTC One Filipino users!
I got mine from my Aunt working in Taiwan got the 32gb version since she said the 64gb is "rare" to find also mine is white ( YAY )
been using mine for 3 days been checking it very carefully for problems and stuff and from my observation no software problems or hardware problems but BATTERY DRAINS VERY FAST! I am using a 3G sim and my data is always ON average screen time is 2hrs and 58 minutes heavy use and maximum with light use is 3hrs and 45 minutes also Brightness is always FULL
I keep saying to my self the battery is "ADJUSTING" oh for most new phones it is!
Great Screen, Great design, feels nice in the hands and great grip does not fall off hands easily , has this "nice vibe to it" well what do you expect from HTC
So my fellow pinoys would get this great phone? hate or love it?
Or will you be waiting for the Xperia Z, Motorola X or Samsung S4 to come to the Philippines?
The choice is up to you!
Hello.
Only 3 hours screen time? Ang baba yata masyado.
My Note 2 can last 7-8 screen time with 3G always ON.
I am thinking of buying this phone as my secondry device for my smart sim kaso ang hina pala ng battery.
I am still waiting for the reviews of the S4 so I can't really decide yet. It all goes down to battery
Will you be upgrading or staying on your current phone?
and it begins...
already sold my N5 in preparation for this. Couldn't handle the monster size phone they put out last year.
I just keep my old nexus 5 if there is something wrong with my new nexus or i give it to someone else close who needs it
I'm still rocking my launch day(ordered) Nexus 5 with no hardware issues whatsoever. Hoping to get lucky and snag a day one device again this time.
Day 1 N5 owner!
Let the new games begin!
nljelmer said:
I just keep my old nexus 5 if there is something wrong with my new nexus or i give it to someone else close who needs it
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My thoughts too, I will keep mine. Best phone I've ever had, all my expectations have been fulfilled 'til today!
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I'm still rocking my launch day(ordered) Nexus 5 with no hardware issues whatsoever. Hoping to get lucky and snag a day one device again this time.
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bfspider said:
Day 1 N5 owner!
Let the new games begin!
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Same here, another day one owner ...rock 'n' rollin' til today!
Oh, hell. I got a mini heart attack when I saw "Nexus 5X Forums Officially Available!" in my feed-reader. For a few seconds, I was wondering whether Google has officially announced the phones while I was offline. Y u do this xda..!!
Anyway, I hope the new phones have good battery performance. This is my situation with N5 -
1. Keeping the radio at 2G 99% of the time.
2. Location, Sync, Mobile Data, NFC - all are always off unless I need to use some app that needs them.
3. Greenify, Amplify, PowerNap.
4. Turn the screen on as few times as possible.
And yet, the battery drains like nobody's business. WTH...!!
I wish someday I'll have a phone where I won't have to worry about keeping the "Sync" on and the phone can actually be used as a smartphone.
Only got my N5 2013 last October, but I still can't wait to jump on the N5x train.
For me.. I'll use my Nexus 5 till it gives up. Nexus 5 will remain a legend and its legacy will continue with 5X.
Day 1 user here as well...
Quite frankly my only gripe with this phone has been the average/below average battery life... Otherwise been very satisfied... Not complaining about the pics either... Think they come out quite well...
Will be interesting to see what they do with the new cameras...
i use a motox 2014 since december when i trashed my n5 (RiP)
i am satisfied so far but i can not wait to jump the nexus train gain
Day 1 owner of the N5, and looking forward to being a day 1 owner of the N5X.
The N5 has been easily the best phone I've ever owned. Honestly, if the battery life was even average at this point I'd probably put off buying a new phone until next year. The usability of the phone is still top notch.
For you day 1 N5 folks, you should probably look into replacing the battery. It's quite easy and totally worth it. I did and I finally get decent battery life like back in 2013.
I kept my N5 since launch and just grabbed it tonight to tinker. Sold my N6 looking for smaller and went with G4. Very excited to be ordering a 5X soon
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For you day 1 N5 folks, you should probably look into replacing the battery. It's quite easy and totally worth it. I did and I finally get decent battery life like back in 2013.
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Very true. Battery life became really good after putting in a new one in April. Especially after 5.1.1.
However, I sold it in prep for the new N5. Very excited.
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Had the OG Nexus 5 a month after it came out, but ended up giving it to my brother April 2015 after he broke his phone. I now have the Galaxy S6, but man do I miss my Nexus 5. I'm pretty set on buying the Nexus 5X once it comes out.
I bought mine few weeks after launch. Everything is perfect but I am planning to buy a new one because of 2 reasons:
1. Battery life is terrible - a week ago I replaced it and I noticed a small increase in SOT, but nothing extreme... I used to get 2 hours SOT, now with the new battery I get somewhere between 2.5 - 3 hours SOT. I want something that will get me 5-6 SOT and I believe there is something with that amount of SOT on the market... I hope 5X or 6P will be the ones.
2. My screen is a little bit cracked. I dropped it several times, but the last time the screen cracked a tiny bit on the corner. Its unnoticeable unless you really looking, but still it bothers me....
day 1 nexus 5 user here. It's an excellent phone, until one day I slept on it and my elbow put pressure on the screen. Now there are dead spots on the screen, so I can't type "E" anymore unless I go landscape mode. Without this, I might still use the nexus 5 and skip nexus 5x because I'm cheap. That said, I really love my Nexus 5, and I can imagine the Nexus 5x will be even better.
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Day 1 user here as well...
Quite frankly my only gripe with this phone has been the average/below average battery life... Otherwise been very satisfied... Not complaining about the pics either... Think they come out quite well...
Will be interesting to see what they do with the new cameras...
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bagarwa said:
This is my situation with N5 -
1. Keeping the radio at 2G 99% of the time.
2. Location, Sync, Mobile Data, NFC - all are always off unless I need to use some app that needs them.
3. Greenify, Amplify, PowerNap.
4. Turn the screen on as few times as possible.
And yet, the battery drains like nobody's business. WTH...!!
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If you've checked and there's nothing keeping the CPU or radio awake, it might be time to replace your battery. It's been two years since the Nexus 5 2013's release, many of those batteries are wearing out.
I had a Droid Turbo for 1.5 years that got great battery life. I am a power user, and averaged between 4 and 4.5 hrs of SOT in a 16 hour day.
For no good reason, I decided it was time to get a new phone, and I chose the S7e SD 820 model based on the reviews. While the phone is pretty, there were two dealbreakers for me. First, the Edge screen is too sensitive given the way I hold a phone, even when using a case. I'd constantly open apps on the left side of the screen by accident. Or worse, make weird typos in emails. The second, and bigger issue, is mentioned ad nauseum on this forum - the US version has major Android System battery drain that has not been addressed. I spent hours and hours trying to get in touch with someone who could help me at Samsung. I was promised callbacks, fixes, etc.. But when there was no follow through and I'd call back, they acted like nobody had ever reported the problem before. I then tried tweeting Samsung support, and they responded... By telling me that their customer service dept on Twitter has absolutely no way to contact someone who can solve the android system issue. Finally, after calling several times, I got in touch w a US based tier 2 tech support agent, who also told me the issue had never been reported. He had an S7 on hand, picked it up, and noted that there was definitely a problem. He put in a ticket but said it wouldn't be addressed until enough people complained to trip their system. Given the challenges of dealing w Samsung, and my big priority of having a long lasting battery, I finally gave up hope and returned my s7e to Verizon. This is the first time in 20 years of cell phones that I've ever made a return.
I wanted my Droid Turbo back, but unfortunately, I turned that in when I got the S7e. So, I decided to get a DT2. I'd call it a fine phone. Nothing special that differentiated it from the original for me. In fact, battery life for me averaged about 3.5-4 hrs SOT, less than the original. If I'm going to spend $700 on a new phone it has to be significantly better than my previous one in the category that's most important to me, which is battery life. I don't watch much video on my phone, but I definitely use apps intermittently throughout the day, including FB, Instagram, Bumble, TouchDown and Feedly. Since those don't need anything special in terms of graphics, my only goal was to get more device use time than the DT. Since that wasn't happening, I've now purchased a Nexus 6p.
From reading the forums, it sounds like Google is much more responsive to issues because this phone is running stock Android. While the processor is a generation dated from the S7e, I do appreciate that Google will update much faster than Samsung, who barely acknowledged a battery issue affecting 100% of US phones. I've now installed everything on my 6p, and am in the middle of testing it for "normal use" (meaning, how I use the phone, which may or may not reflect the norm). If this phone doesn't get better battery life than the DT, then I'm going to return it, call it a day, and purchase another DT on ebay.
I'm sure for many of you screen pixels, camera and processor speed matter, but I don't watch much video, find almost all cell phone cameras provide pixelated photos, particularly in low light, and I never had any issue opening FB or emails at warp speed on my Turbo. I can't justify getting equal or less battery life for a phone that costs $500 more than the original DT.
Anyway, I'll give an update once I've had a few days with my 6p, but feel free to post your experiences if you've had any of these devices.
You should be able to get at least 6 to 8 hours SOT with the SD820 Edge, just look at this threat and try it. Despite your bad experience so far this S7 should easily obliterate your DT and 6p. It's just a shame 800 bucks doesn't work great straight out of the box like most Exynos do and how it should be. But even Exynos isn't perfect, e.g. my standby drain is slowly creeping upwards from 2% per night on the first day till 4% now, 2 weeks later. Without ever changing a setting. Not complaining though This phone has potential like no other phone in market does at this point in time.
I'd strongly doubt that any phone could average 6+ hrs of SoT unless you're on wifi and using the screen continuously. But again, everyone uses their phones differently. For me, it was the terrible Samsung support that made me throw in the towel. I agree that the phone has potential, but potential is just that. If the people responsible for updating the phone don't pay attention to their customers than the phone will never improve beyond its potential.
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If the people responsible for updating the phone don't pay attention to their customers than the phone will never improve beyond its potential.
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Touche
Seriously, what's wrong with the Z5 compact? the Z3 compact was a longhaul wonder but I had to upgrade, since the back cover piece of "glass" was so fragile, it broke several times without much or any force exposed to it. Exchanging it anyway never got it waterproof again.
But the longer the more updates are coming to the Z5 compact, the less it's battery holds and I only got it since March this year!
I make it barely through the day on one charge with 1h of screen on time max!
As you can see in the attached screenshots today it's down to below 30% at 3 o'clock in the afternoon after disconnecting it from the charger this morning at 8 o'clock and I haven't used it much since... 15 minutes of listening to music, occational web searches and e-mail reading. I'm on the latest official Marshmallow (32.2.A.0.253), no root, no bl unlock, all stock!
what shall I do?
sorry for venting a bit...
cheers
Lyndon
The latest is .305, upgrade, debloat, post results.
Im having similar issues, same version. Checking for updates tells me that my phone is at the latest version
With latest soft . 305 the battery is better than before.
Same here, this phone is melting the battery like butter under the sun.
Impossible to determine which processus is faulty but it wasn't the case some weeks ago.
Update your phone to .305 (flash it completely)
works on my machine
So I factory reset over the weekend, and did not turn device encryption back on (I had it on previously)... and I've noticed hugely improved performance and battery life, and drastically cooler temperatures. On one hand, it could be that the factory reset cleared something that was causing issues; but on the other, device encryption, by definition, requires more CPU cycles, which will heat up a device and cause battery drain and slower performance.
I know that it sucks having to make the trade-off (if device encryption was a contributing factor), but if you have encryption turned on and have problems with the phone getting really hot, performing poorly, or draining battery, consider turning it off.
Perhaps it would be less of an issue with a different processor, but Sony did stick us with the 810, so... lol
Where in the menu is this encryption?
Yep, hard reset cured my z5c too. Something kept it awake and I couldn't find what. It was over 30 proc. battery drain over night, now it's 3 and 3-5 hours screen on time.
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Where in the menu is this encryption?
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It's not turned on by default, so if you didn't turn it on, it's probably not on.
It's under the Security settings. There are buttons to "Encrypt Phone" and "Encrypt SD Card."
Ever since i upgraded to 32.2.a.0.305 which was a mandatory update; my battery drained a lot faster similar to TS. So I have to factory reformat again? I've done this 3x already since I got my phone back in February. I'm so frustrated right now with Android; I don't even know who to blame; google or sony.
My phone was ok before the october updates; the low power mode would kick in and i could see the power graph go more horizontal as time has passed. Now it is a direct slump down from 6pm (full) to 6am (15%) and I was asleep during this time.
reformat? that will take considerable amount of time. I'm a working professional and I have a family with responsibilities. iOS is looking more and more enticing as the days go by as I use this phone.
I was happy that the z5c has a larger battery and can charge 50% faster (with qc 2.0) but it happens to also drains 2x faster.
Even if android is a superior OS than iOS (IMO); it is so very unreliable and unpredictable. I just want to feel relaxed (peace of mind) that my phone will be available when I need it the most. Now every time I go out I have to think about not forgetting to bring a powerbank; so much for a compact android phone. my powerbank + z5c is bigger than the iphone plus.
I've solved the problem, I'm back on Lollipop 5.1.1 with the 32.0.A.4.11-R3B FW.
The difference is really huge whether in terms of battery, reactivity and useful features. Today the phone have used 15% of battery where it would have usually used 45% in the same time on MM.
I'm like Chadie, I don't know who is to blame, Sony or Google, but this MM fw on the Z5C is a shame.
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reformat? that will take considerable amount of time. I'm a working professional and I have a family with responsibilities. iOS is looking more and more enticing as the days go by as I use this phone.
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Even if android is a superior OS than iOS (IMO); it is so very unreliable and unpredictable. I just want to feel relaxed (peace of mind) that my phone will be available when I need it the most. Now every time I go out I have to think about not forgetting to bring a powerbank; so much for a compact android phone. my powerbank + z5c is bigger than the iphone plus.
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If you think iOS doesn't have problems, you're in for a surprise. lol
Yes, it sucks having to factory reset, but I'm a working professional, too, and I found the time to do it on a Sunday morning. It's worth it. Google can restore most of your settings and apps, you'll just have to manually reconnect Bluetooth devices and set up your home screen again.
I was really shocked with the battery life coming from 4.4.2 on my z1c HEAVILY modded/tweaked was getting 2 day battery life and upto 9hrs screen on time (NINE HOURS!).
But yeah I now got the z5c (r.i.p z1c best phone ever) for 60 quid brand new because my mate didn't want it anymore got iPhone instead lol but since I updated to .305 over the past few days the battery has REALLY improved like it's magically calibrated itself or something and I'm getting comfy 1.5days out of it, I don't know how much screen on time as MM doesn't show you anymore but hey I've noticed a massive improvement.
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I don't know how much screen on time as MM doesn't show you anymore but hey I've noticed a massive improvement.
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Download GSam Battery Monitor if you want that functionality back. It'll tell you screen time, as well as all sorts of other usage metrics that impact battery life.
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Yes, it sucks having to factory reset, but I'm a working professional, too, and I found the time to do it on a Sunday morning. It's worth it. Google can restore most of your settings and apps, you'll just have to manually reconnect Bluetooth devices and set up your home screen again.
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I can confirm that factory reset is unfortunately the best solution.
For my work, i had to update a dozen of Xperia M4 aqua, which is famous for poor memory available ( 8gb version).
So i compared reseted and not reseted available memory after update and can tell you there is a big difference.
That's why i now make my best to convince users to factory reset after update.
An updated system will never be as efficient as a clean installed one.
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If you think iOS doesn't have problems, you're in for a surprise. lol
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I know about them; i have both phones but android is my primary one. Better those than having an unreliable charge on my phone.
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I know about them; i have both phones but android is my primary one. Better those than having an unreliable charge on my phone.
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https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7676533?start=0&tstart=0
http://www.iphonehacks.com/2016/10/how-to-fix-iphone-7-battery-life-problems.html
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Just following up... after the reset, the battery life, especially at idle, has been rocking. Here's last night while I was sleeping (note that I do not charge my phones overnight, since it's bad to charge a Li-Ion battery to 100% and I wouldn't be awake to disconnect it before that happened):
This is on build 32.2.A.0.305, and the phone is not rooted (it is completely stock firmware).
Compared to z3c this phone is an epic fail.
I just wanted to share how happy i've been with the Nougat update and share my experience with battery replacement. This phone is 2 years old and man i still think this phone can hang in 2017. It's snappy enough for me. I was getting jealous of my sisters s7e with N running. Now that I have it on my s6 i feel like the phone is brand new. Im a happy camper. Also I wanted to share my experience with changing my battery. I bought a replacement battery of ebay and swapped it when i found out my old one was busting out the back cover (defective) and was dying minutes after fully charging. Just replacing the battery i got more use. SoT is 15 minutes shy of 5 hours compared to my before time of 3 hours. stanby with music and light usage is about 24 hour with 20 percent still left. All i do to try to keep the battery in good condition is never letting it run below 20 percent and using greenify. I don't know if Nougat helped battery life but my phone has felt brand new to me from just replacing battery and updating to N. Let me know your experience with battery and how you are liking Nougat. I just flashed to Nougat on Tmo so i might be late to party ive heard some have been running it for months now.
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I ran stock unrooted nought since the ota came out here. I had no issues until I made that mistake of installing substratum for touchwiz roms. It worked fine for a little while until the themed apps got updated breaking them one by one. Since I was forced to wipe it anyway I rooted and installed golden eagle Rom which I'm really happy with so far. A lot of benefits over stock.
So far my battery hasn't had any issues and hopefully it won't for a while. I don't run it low or use quick charge if I can help it. The phone is almost 2 years old.
S6 is very bad Google pxl is the boss
If I could buy a Google pixel for anywhere near as cheap as the s6 I would. Your comment isn't very helpful. I personally find the s6 to be a really decent phone for it's age. Especially since I never liked any Samsung phones before this because I always found them to be cheaply made, laggy and buggy.
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If I could buy a Google pixel for anywhere near as cheap as the s6 I would. Your comment isn't very helpful. I personally find the s6 to be a really decent phone for it's age. Especially since I never liked any Samsung phones before this because I always found them to be cheaply made, laggy and buggy.
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Don't feed the trolls. Let the mods handle them. BTT, nougat has been very good in terms of battery in my experience as well.
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So far my battery hasn't had any issues and hopefully it won't for a while. I don't run it low or use quick charge if I can help it. The phone is almost 2 years old.
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so do you just uncheck the fast charging option in the settings when you want to charge it and aren't in a hurry? is there study into fast charging causing battery to die out faster? sounds interesting
I haven't heard of any study but typically batteries in general like slow charging better. I leave it unchecked unless I want to charge it faster which happens maybe once a month for me. I charge it in the evening and usually have no problem getting through the day. I usually have a portable power pack with me just in case.