What to do about OTA update on rooted phone? - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

My phone keeps bugging me to install OTA update for krack vulnerability. I tried and it sent my phone to boot loop and now I have it restored. My phone has xposed installed. What is the best course of action? I would like to update but if that's not possible can I at least stop having the message show up each time I unlock my phone?

You could try to disable/freeze the Motorola-Updateservices (/system/priv-app/3c_ota/3c_ota.apk) or flash a new full (not OTA) firmware for your device without boot.img, recovery.img and without wiping data.
Beware: After flashing a full firmware, all modifications to the system partition are lost and have to be redone.
I always disable all 3c moto services and never faced problems because of it.

thorin0815 said:
You could try to disable/freeze the Motorola-Updateservices (/system/priv-app/3c_ota/3c_ota.apk) or flash a new full (not OTA) firmware for your device without boot.img, recovery.img and without wiping data.
Beware: After flashing a full firmware, all modifications to the system partition are lost and have to be redone.
I always disable all 3c moto services and never faced problems because of it.
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Is that even safe not to apply the patch? I find it hard to believe just because you root your device you can't update it.

twoplustwo said:
Is that even safe not to apply the patch? I find it hard to believe just because you root your device you can't update it.
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Is it a good idea to avoid security updates? No, it isn't. Is it clever to avoid updated drivers? No, it isn't (at least in most cases).
You should have informed yourself about the backdraws of rooting your phone before you did it. You need to be completely on stock firmware without any changes
to the system files to be able to use an OTA for updating your phone. This is needed to be safe the OTA update works the way it should.
The best way for updating a rooted phone is to install the full updated rom, which is easy to get for our device.

thorin0815 said:
The best way for updating a rooted phone is to install the full updated rom, which is easy to get for our device.
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How can this be done? I don't know what to search for in these threads?

twoplustwo said:
How can this be done? I don't know what to search for in these threads?
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Check this for example: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138

thorin0815 said:
Check this for example: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
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Some of my apps (like TI backup) need root. Is there a root for this version yet? I've tried searching but I find these forums very difficult to navigate.

twoplustwo said:
Some of my apps (like TI backup) need root. Is there a root for this version yet? I've tried searching but I find these forums very difficult to navigate.
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Same procedure as on other stock rom versions): you need ElementalX kernel to be flashed and afterwards your desired root method(magisk is recommended).
Guides like this are valid https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...de-root-moto-g4-plus-supersu-android-t3587918

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Does flashing a rom unroot a rooted phone???

So I rooted my phone with one click method, changed rom, also because I wanted an unrooted phone again, but it seems that even though I flash a new room I always stay rooted??? Am I doing something wrong??? I thought that flashing a new rom was supposed to restore factory defaults including an unrooted device. Am I wrong??? I started with a XXJID whent to XWJJ4 to XXJK1 and back to XXJID, but it always stays rooted... I want to unroot my phone can anyone help me out please
yes it does, once the custome roms are created they will generally be released rooted to save you the effort.
retroqwe said:
yes it does, once the custome roms are created they will generally be released rooted to save you the effort.
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Thanks, so what must I do to unroot my phone?? tried the one click metod and it does not work...
Curious as to why you want to un-root it?
shollywood said:
Curious as to why you want to un-root it?
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Because i am curios as well and should the need arise I see it is not as simple as all that.
There is no reason whatsoever to unroot. But yes, flashing a new firmware will unroot your tab as it would any other device.
ftgg99 said:
There is no reason whatsoever to unroot. But yes, flashing a new firmware will unroot your tab as it would any other device.
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Not true, I have flashed many roms and always stays rooted
That, my man, is because the roms you were flashing already included su permissions... a new firmware will completely replace the entire filesystem, all settings included. And there are no customised firmwares for the tab atm.
EDIT: just realised you are attempting to answer your own question lol
ftgg99 said:
That, my man, is because the roms you were flashing already included su permissions... a new firmware will completely replace the entire filesystem, all settings included. And there are no customised firmwares for the tab atm.
EDIT: just realised you are attempting to answer your own question lol
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Wait a moment, I dont get it???? Are you telling me that whoever flashes a Rom from Samfirmware is in fact installing a firmware with root access already installed??? I didn't realize this, but looking at the results of my flashes I guess you must be right
I had to manually root my JK1 ROM after flashing.
I'm saying this shouldn't be happening. Probably its the recovery you need to replace. I'm not sure if its partition gets wiped with Sammy firmwares. I'm not doing any flashing yet as I see no point.
The rom XWJJ4/XXJK1 uses a different partition schema as XXJID used, where XWJJ4 and its successors uses "P1" .PIT file, and XXJID uses "816" .PIT file. Maybe the issue comes from this.
Zeron.Wong said:
The rom XWJJ4/XXJK1 uses a different partition schema as XXJID used, where XWJJ4 and its successors uses "P1" .PIT file, and XXJID uses "816" .PIT file. Maybe the issue comes from this.
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Perhaps, but from what I understand the XXJID uses "no repartition" to install, so the pit is actually not used when putting on this firmware... I wonder which firmware actually uses this same repartition. I used JHA before putting on JID, and I would have thought this used the same repartition, but still signs of a rooted phone. From what "ftgg99" said I wonder where the roms from samfirmware come from. I guess other devices from were the roms have been extracted, and to extract a rom from a device I think you need root acess, so that is why I am getting leftovers of rooted phones on these roms, namely the SU file which gives me the rom as rooted when I go and check the firmware. I saw that Kies fortunately sees my device as normal so I hope that when an official update will come along there will be no problems with the official upgrade...
Well, flashing a ROM outside of OTA updates invalidates the warranty, so does rooting, if we believe this article:
MOD EDIT:Wait until further instructions.DO NOT EDIT THE POST W/O MY PERMISSION.
Hack only if you can afford the consequences !
Moddage ftw. Super one click modifies the recovery partition, so to lose root you will have to replace it with the original.
So, can we please get the original recovery?
Superoneclick has a unroot function that we may wish it will "restore the original one". While a root guide posted by "chowdarygm" indicated that after unrooting the device that was rooted by superoneclick before, he can't root it again by using the same tool, and have to reflash the rom to make it under control. Given this, the root tool itself is not as perfect as we wished yet, especially with the "rollback" mechanism.
Thanks for this thread you guys, i have Samsung A9 PRO 2016 and flashed magisk patched rom to it, but i have problem the Magisk don't detect instalation and Banking app don't work cause magisk can't hide no settings to do it. Also my apps starts breaking and stopping.

[Q] 4.1.2 update enquiry after unlocked, rooted. kernel changed

Hi,
I am new to this forum and android stuff.
Please forgive me if I asked noob question.
I tried to search but got no complete answer.
My condition:
Nexus 7
build number JRO03S
used Nexus root toolkit 1.5.3
to unlock and root
used TWRP to install poitee kernel for usb dac.
Then:
The 4.1.2 updates notification show up
I pressed yes ... accidentally.
Now:
The build number becomes JRO03S
but the Android version is still 4.1.1
Question:
a. How to update to 4.1.2?
b. How to update without wiping any data and apps?
c. Do I have to reinstall the pointee kernel?
d. Will flashing rom ( updating to newer version ) wipe all things?
Sorry for so many questions,
For my situation it is a mixed up that I can't find similar condition on the internet yet.
Please kindly help and advise.
Much Thanks!
Btw,
I done below, no success:
1. quickboot
2. TWRP recovery
3. install nakasi-JZO54K-from-JRO03S.zip (from /sdcard)
4. error --> "Status 7" shown.
Cannot update.
Please Please help....
Use the wugs toolkit and go back to fully stock ROM, re lock the bootloader.
Only then will you be able to apply the OTA update.
backup your app data using titanium backup.
There is a modified version of the update that someone made. It doesn't perform the system checks that cause so many peoples devices to fail. If you can't run the update because you changed or deleted a system apk, read this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32752631&postcount=20
Don't run this if you're just not sure of why your update is failing.
vinny86 said:
Use the wugs toolkit and go back to fully stock ROM, re lock the bootloader.
Only then will you be able to apply the OTA update.
backup your app data using titanium backup.
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Understood and Thanks a lot!!!:good:
that means all in all,
I still have to go through
the route of "Backup all --> Flash Stock & unroot --> Root --> Restore all".
However, considering the latest update seems don't have anything important or useful to me
So I just wait for the next more important update.
and save the drudgery next time.
vinny86 said:
Use the wugs toolkit and go back to fully stock ROM, re lock the bootloader.
Only then will you be able to apply the OTA update.
backup your app data using titanium backup.
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He doesn't need to lock his bootloader, and he'll still not be able to run the update the natural way as long as he's got twrp or cwm installed. He can flash the factory rom and push the update through using custom recovery though.
Visa Declined said:
There is a modified version of the update that someone made. It doesn't perform the system checks that cause so many peoples devices to fail. If you can't run the update because you changed or deleted a system apk, read this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32752631&postcount=20
Don't run this if you're just not sure of why your update is failing.
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Thanks for you advise,:highfive:
it is very kind of you to help.
I think may be the Status 7 error could be caused by the Custom Kernel Installed (poitee)
I better ask him in detail later on.
But mine is JRO03S,
May be it is safer to Return to Stock Rom completely and go for OTA later.
Sadly, This 4.1.2. seems got no very useful component to me,
I solely use it as a second PDA and Music Player with USB DAC.
I will have to wait for better solution then.....
pleaseabcd said:
However, considering the latest update seems don't have anything important or useful to me
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The latest update allows you to boot into recovery mode without being plugged into usb. Now, if I get stuck in a bootloop, I don't have to look for something to plug my device into to restore. This feature alone is worth whatever hassle one may have to do to update.
Visa Declined said:
The latest update allows you to boot into recovery mode without being plugged into usb. Now, if I get stuck in a bootloop, I don't have to look for something to plug my device into to restore. This feature alone is worth whatever hassle one may have to do to update.
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O'really.....em...then it is a different story..(Safer for the future...)
Perhaps, I just:
1. use Titanium Backup to back up everything --> copy the "Back up" to PC (just in case)
2. use Wugfresh Nexus Root Toolkit 1.5.4 to Flash Stock n Root
3. if can Flash to 4.1.2 stock rom directly, OK
4. if can't --> flash back to 4.1.1 stock rom (JRO03S) and then OTA
5. Finally, use Titanium backup to restore Everything.
Have to Thank You you guys again!
I know I am a newbie... but I am learning......
Hate to be limited to what I was given......while I can experiment and make mistake to grow up !:laugh:

OTA Custom Recovery Misconception

Is it a misconception that an OTA update received on your phone will not install if you have a custom recovery? I just read an article on how an update will fail if you are running a custom recovery. However, when I updated from 4.2.1 to 4.2.2.. All I did was accept the OTA update notification I got on my phone and it installed fine through the TWRP recovery I had flashed on my Nexus.
It won't install automatically, as you found out. It has been said many times over that you are easily able to install the downloaded OTA yourself in your custom recovery.
peedub said:
It won't install automatically, as you found out. It has been said many times over that you are easily able to install the downloaded OTA yourself in your custom recovery.
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Sorry maybe I didnt word my post correctly but what I am trying to say that it does install automatically. I got the update notification on my phone and it installed fine.
Rizy7 said:
Sorry maybe I didnt word my post correctly but what I am trying to say that it does install automatically. I got the update notification on my phone and it installed fine.
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Yes its not new info as this has been discussed before in a number of threads back when the last OTA first came out.
Had a similar question, and in the spirit of not starting a new thread...
was this OTA just lucky in that regard?
ie. I want to root (for ads.. no other compelling reason for me.. I'm happy otherwise).. and would like to do so in a way that makes me as forward compatible for future OTA updates (ie. don't want to have to wipe data).
since I'm not looking for lots of typical custom recovery features, I'm wondering if I should even bother with a custom recovery.. and/or if any are likely to allow me to accept OTAs directly OTA.
thanks!
zim2dive said:
Had a similar question, and in the spirit of not starting a new thread...
was this OTA just lucky in that regard?
ie. I want to root (for ads.. no other compelling reason for me.. I'm happy otherwise).. and would like to do so in a way that makes me as forward compatible for future OTA updates (ie. don't want to have to wipe data).
since I'm not looking for lots of typical custom recovery features, I'm wondering if I should even bother with a custom recovery.. and/or if any are likely to allow me to accept OTAs directly OTA.
thanks!
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Rooting your phone does not keep you from being able to update it. If all else fails you can always download the OTA and update it through your custom recovery. Which is what a lot of people did instead of waiting for Google to push it to their phone, myself included. Also you don't have to have a custom recovery installed if you don't want to after you root the phone. You could use one of the toolkit's to root it and it will install a temporary custom recovery used just for rooting then remove it when its done. Or just flash the stock recovery image after you root if you do it another way. If you go through the process of rooting I would recommend unlocking the bootloader too while you are at it but be warned this will erase all your memory so backup first.

P9 Lite Update released today (Question)

My question is simple, if i update im gonna lost my root and my custom recovery?
xCoNDex said:
My question is simple, if i update im gonna lost my root and my custom recovery?
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Which Model have u got? Also i think u might lose ur root and custom recovery by updating.
Usama707 said:
Which Model have u got? Also i think u might lose ur root and custom recovery by updating.
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VNS-L31, if im gonna lost all my data again repeating the root process i prefer to stay at this version
xCoNDex said:
My question is simple, if i update im gonna lost my root and my custom recovery?
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I've successfully installed b131 update on my vns-l31 with twrp, and yes, I've lost both twrp and root. But this ca be easily redone because you still have bootloader unlocked. And your data is safe
lzimbrea said:
I've successfully installed b131 update on my vns-l31 with twrp, and yes, I've lost both twrp and root. But this ca be easily redone because you still have bootloader unlocked. And your data is safe
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Thats nice!, and how about the update?, it is noticeable improvement?
xCoNDex said:
Thats nice!, and how about the update?, it is noticeable improvement?
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Update changelog doesn't provide many information...
Just some carrier specific things and some system security improvement.
I didn't notice any differences in UI or overall performance.
But anyway my device run smoothly from day one.
What update you received? B131? Or other?
lzimbrea said:
Update changelog doesn't provide many information...
Just some carrier specific things and some system security improvement.
I didn't notice any differences in UI or overall performance.
But anyway my device run smoothly from day one.
What update you received? B131? Or other?
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B131? , my update says B120
Log: System improvements and visual improvements on the ui text
xCoNDex said:
B131? , my update says B120
Log: System improvements and visual improvements on the ui text
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Yes b131
Also i think that is is completely software since the update.app from the zip has 2.9 Gb
Please, could someone do this before update?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-7/general/how-to-hicould-stock-firmware-link-ota-t3395467
Thanks
Sorry for jumping in here but I have a question.. if we have an unlocked bootloader and rooted do we still even get notifications that there's an update? tia
lilbrat said:
Sorry for jumping in here but I have a question.. if we have an unlocked bootloader and rooted do we still even get notifications that there's an update? tia
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Yes you will receive the notification, but in most cases update fail to install due to various reasons, first is that system has been modified.
I was never afraid of bricking my devices and tried to see what happens. After restarting, when I saw the twrp logo, I was a bit sceptical, but after 2 minutes or so, phone restarted in stock recovery and finishing update
lilbrat said:
Sorry for jumping in here but I have a question.. if we have an unlocked bootloader and rooted do we still even get notifications that there's an update? tia
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Yeah, i have root and twrp and i receive a notification update to B120 version yesterday
Guys can someone tell me how HiVoice works?, i dont have any config menu, just the fast calls
BTW the option "Im Here" to find your phone?, could be possible to use it on p9 lite?
lzimbrea said:
Yes you will receive the notification, but in most cases update fail to install due to various reasons, first is that system has been modified.
I was never afraid of bricking my devices and tried to see what happens. After restarting, when I saw the twrp logo, I was a bit sceptical, but after 2 minutes or so, phone restarted in stock recovery and finishing update
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Thanks for the info.. I'm not worried about bricking it had lots of experience undoing my tinkering..lol and no update out for the middle east region.. though I do find my phone to be quite funny it has all the languages but for locations it covers the US and all of Africa and a few islands thats it..lol
Anyone knowes if is possible to change the system font?
lzimbrea said:
Yes you will receive the notification, but in most cases update fail to install due to various reasons, first is that system has been modified.
I was never afraid of bricking my devices and tried to see what happens. After restarting, when I saw the twrp logo, I was a bit sceptical, but after 2 minutes or so, phone restarted in stock recovery and finishing update
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how you perform the update?, the automatic process dont work for me
xCoNDex said:
Anyone knowes if is possible to change the system font?
how you perform the update?, the automatic process dont work for me
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I performed update process automatically, just press install after download has finished.
After some checking device rebooted in twrp and after some installation in twrp ( modem.img and things like this. I don't pay attention to device ), device rebooted second time, this time in stock recovery and finished the installing process.
But as far as I know even the dload method is safe. Your data partition is safe. As long as you update.app is from an update.zip , not from a stock full rom.
Update: I checked received package and didn't see any format or erase command on /data partition
It should be safe to flash even with dload method
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Sorry for jumping in here but I have a question.. if we have an unlocked bootloader and rooted do we still even get notifications that there's an update? tia
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Yeah, you still getting update notifications
lzimbrea said:
I performed update process automatically, just press install after download has finished.
After some checking device rebooted in twrp and after some installation in twrp ( modem.img and things like this. I don't pay attention to device ), device rebooted second time, this time in stock recovery and finished the installing process.
But as far as I know even the dload method is safe. Your data partition is safe. As long as you update.app is from an update.zip , not from a stock full rom.
Update: I checked received package and didn't see any format or erase command on /data partition
It should be safe to flash even with dload method
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Dude i recently update succesfull to B120 and my bootloader gets locked again!, is this normal?
I had to upgrade from Stock recovery, twrp Was not doing anyhting (The phone reboot, twrp stars automatic but dont do anything), now i have to unlock boot loader again wich means format all my data again
xCoNDex said:
Dude i recently update succesfull to B120 and my bootloader gets locked again!, is this normal?
I had to upgrade from Stock recovery, twrp Was not doing anyhting (The phone reboot, twrp stars automatic but dont do anything), now i have to unlock boot loader again wich means format all my data again
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Probably you're update had a bootloader update also...
My bootloader is still unlocked after update.
I really don't know what contain all updates.
And be aware that any rooted device can get bricked by official updates. So if you need your data partition, you have 2 options
1- stay with stock software and receive updates officially
2- experiment what you want with your device, but do a backup first or prepare yourself for data loss
I had a lot of luck with this update. Is first time when this happens to me

Wireless OTA update on rooted lemfo lem5 smart watch

Wireless OTA update on rooted lemfo lem5 smart watch downloads the update but does not install it, says root found cannot update. Is there a way to flash the downloaded ota update via twrp? Also I am unable to find the location of the ota update. Where is it stored/downloaded?
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Wireless OTA update on rooted lemfo lem5 smart watch downloads the update but does not install it, says root found cannot update. Is there a way to flash the downloaded ota update via twrp? Also I am unable to find the location of the ota update. Where is it stored/downloaded?
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Did you restore official kernel? Before uograde?
I never tried with twrp...
geowolf1000 said:
Did you restore official kernel? Before uograde?
I never tried with twrp...
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no, it is stock rom but rooted
Gautam_Gundap said:
no, it is stock rom but rooted
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With k88h must be full stock to upgrade
Stock kernel and stock recovery
Earlier roms had problems with brick when upgrade rooted so did try dangerous ways...
it's stock rom, stock kernel and stock recovery, but rooted
Did you root with the kingroot? PC or apk? Do not have the option to remove root?
edugasper said:
Did you root with the kingroot? PC or apk? Do not have the option to remove root?
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Rooted with kingoroot, I am not very sure which app i used to root. Replaced it with supersu app and updated the binary. I found a way to install OTA updates with root using flashfire. It preserves the root after flashing and thus saves the effort and time to re root, although other root related stuff need to be redone especially after full system update. It's very good for incremental updates and good for full system update. The only issue is the flashfire app's display needs to be resized else is unusable. This is a bit pain but I was successfully able to do it. I realized that the recent ota update of 14.19mb dated 11/01/2017 is buggy and does not get installed. Anyone else found similar issue?
It also preserves the custom recovery after installation of updates.
Gautam_Gundap said:
Rooted with kingoroot, I am not very sure which app i used to root. Replaced it with supersu app and updated the binary. I found a way to install OTA updates with root using flashfire. It preserves the root after flashing and thus saves the effort and time to re root, although other root related stuff need to be redone especially after full system update. It's very good for incremental updates and good for full system update. The only issue is the flashfire app's display needs to be resized else is unusable. This is a bit pain but I was successfully able to do it. I realized that the recent ota update of 14.19mb dated 11/01/2017 is buggy and does not get installed. Anyone else found similar issue?
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Tried to resize the screen to 320X480?
That will create problems as the display will go off the screen and you might not be able to use. lem5 is 400x400 bigger numbers will reduce the display. Smaller numbers will make it bigger. If you want to experiment and acquire the required display, I suggest go in very small increments or decrement, its a trial and error method, don't change abruptly to a number of big difference. If you do so you will not be able to use the screen and will have to restore full backed up rom from pc. I think it would not be possible even to enter custom recovery as the key combinations of a smartphone probably don't work for watch. Also restoring only system might not do the job. Both data and system needs to be restored as both are changed by playing with the resolution. You have to have a full backup, a backup that can be restored with pc and also don't forget to set usb debugging if your pc backup software requires it before playing around, else there will be no way to do it from the watch. Miracle box software though does not require it for restore and backup.
edugasper said:
Tried to resize the screen to 320X480?
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finally got big xxl font size

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