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The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
xinnn said:
The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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I totally agree with you. It would be especially a shame because Honor promised a 2 year Update guarantee.
I don't think we can do anything about this situation the only answer we would get would be a "We are always trying our best" and so on.
Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Actually....Seem official that won't be any Nougat release (due to hw compatibility).... at the same time it's possible a porting of emui 5 features (split screen and other stuff) to an update for the divices that can't support Android 7 as H7.
This should include also fresh security patch, but I don't think we'll see this famous update before the summer.
All this is what I could understand, in totally unofficial way from the leaking of Honor support...
So let's hope.... something will arrive, but naturally to upgrade H7 and all the devices still young but that can't support Nougat; it isn't exactly at the top of the list for Honor now...
Anyway yes, H7 isn't a lucky smartphone; it have good hw; it run smooth and fast, and could deserve more....
....After all, I came from a Nexus 5; so I was use to have always fresh sw; and to have it before any other ......To tell the truth I don't care so much anymore, untill my H7 is running well (as now), software upgrade won't be a crazy pb.
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Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
Rbunchie said:
Well i'm not even mad for not getting Android 7 and i am okay with that. But it would be nice if we could get some features from EMUI 5 at least. Let's see what the future brings us.
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They will come...Just to don't make us too disappointed, I think.....And to reach the 2 years of support
buongu said:
not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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I Agree, could be a way...
...In all this, i think that is more bad luck with the last Nougat API not supported than any laziness or few interess in the developing...
But I agree another time that if Huawei/Honor want to fight with the top brands, they have to start to better follow their devices, or at least to have a clear policy on releasing update; without confusion or heavy bugs over major release.
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not officially at least: support should be granted for another 6 months, but don't expect much more than a few fixes and a security patch.... my guess is: tiny update with January security patch in the next few weeks, then a final small farewell update in summer.
further software development is out of the question IMHO. huawei just don't seem to learn from their past mistakes...
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People buying Huawei are the ones not learning LOL
But the problem AFAIK is that Honor 7 soc won't support Vulcan, which is required to get a official nougat build from a manufactorer accepted by google.
I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
android N is nothing diff to android 6
eddor1614 said:
I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Which country did u buy your phone from?
ffxmadman said:
Which country did u buy your phone from?
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From China, it is UL00 C17 variant.
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I have UL00 model and I'm using stable B386 from 01/12/2017. Security patch from 01/01/2017.
I'm just saying this version might come to other models too.
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Good to know, if the China model had the upgrade usually the EU model will have it in acceptable timing.....
BigMango said:
If you want to get security updates, get an iPhone.
Android is a totally insecure system due to the way Google had signed the manufacturers up. It always gets security updates several months later, and after a year and half you can throw your phone away or remain with your insecure system.
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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I beg to differ... samsung s4 (2013) is on jan 2017 security patch, and even the cheap xiaomi mi2 (2012) has the same january 2017 update... personal experience.
so you don't need to have an iphone to get a decently long lasting software support.
among the top producers, it's just huawei that keeps disappointing its customers. and the joke is on us, since we still fall for it...
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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Thanks for the feedback, but you are just confirming the TOTAL mess android is.
My Samsung s3 had very bad support. It took months for security fixes to land after being released by Google.
And even worse for my Samsung Galaxy tab 10.1 tablet. After 12 months no support anymore. And for security updates it was a 6 months wait at best.
My HTC phone was very bad also. 6 months at best for security updates and no support anymore after 18 months.
So, as you say sometimes you can get lucky with some devices BUT YOU WILL NEVER KNOW IN ADVANCE if your phone will be supported correctly or not.
I'm currently still on Android because I like the OS, but as it is such an unsecure unsupported platform I think I'll jump ship to iPhone next.
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it sure is impossible to foresee for how long a smartphone will be supported, but huawei has given us plenty of reasons in the last years to at least doubt their policy.
p6, p7 were a real shame, especially being the latter a bit pricey for a huawei; p8, mateS and h7 are the latest victims. and these are just the ones I personally know about. only h6 has had a fairly good support, especially for the price.
now I'm not saying samsung is perfect, they are far from it... (and I don't want to take into account tablets because it's true, android pretty much sucks when it comes to tablets and updates... :/ ) but since you came up with the s3 model, well that was a very hardware limited model... one of the last pre-JB models, with 1gb of ram only... especially with KK all the 1gb models became obsolete... but if you take the lg g1 that was commercialised only 4-5 months later with 2gb, it lived long enough to be updated from ICS to JB and finally to KK.
LG G2-G3-G4 are all receiving small updates from time to time, even if they are mainly only security fixes, but honestly it's the same thing happening with iphones, old models don't get the new features, just small fixes.
same with S4-S5-S6; not sure about M7, but I can guarantee for M8 and M9. Xiaomi still updates a lot of models from 2012-2013.
final words: among the big ballers, there's just one brand that keeps fooling its customers, and that's huawei/honor.
h7/p8/mateS are all 2015 devices... 2015... and h7's support has been dead for 7 months already... it's a shame!
Honor 7 will never updated to android 7.0, mb will coming some minor updates from vendors, mb..Last hope is only developers) imho
yes, they have abandoned us. From now never buy honor product.
xinnn said:
The last update for PLK-L01 is B380 with security patches dated back to 1 August 2016. (I received the OTA in September/October)
It's February 2017 now.
Can we do something to urge Honor to be clear about their support plan?
Because it would be a shame that this device had no support after only one year of his life. ( 1 year !!! )
I'm not even talking about EMUI 5 because at this point there's very little hope but I will be very disappointed if there won't be any further updates. For sure I'll think twice before buying/recommending Huawei phones.
Sorry but I had to vent a bit.
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Honor/Huawei
I had HTC phones in the past, then LG G2 and then changed to H7. I was very satisfied with it, because of smooth running, but when they announced that it wont get new update to nougat I was very dissappointed. Because it was clear then that there will be no updates, at least not any big updates. Its not old phone with good HW. And because of that I decided for iphone. No complaint till now, I have it for 6 months.
Answer AFAIK is nope, since Huawei/Honor only deliver one major update, and they did it "recently" (2016-09 according to their site) on Western Europe (PLK-L01) (probably the last wave who recieved it) with Android Marshmallow. But, the 5 and 6X recieved it.
Kinda regret getting this phone after only 7 months of owning it...
We will see...
Yep, another big costly Chinese tibit.
*warcry scream*
1. I doubt these reps have any more of a clue about the O update for the H8 than you do. If you communicate with enough of them, I am sure one of them will give you the answer you're looking for.
2. What's the fascination with the O update anyway? Functionally, what do you want to do that O will help you with (that N and M do not)?
3. If you use the H8 as a daily driver, the need to experiment with the latest and greatest is diminished. Haven't you read the numerous posts complaining about compatibility with N, much less O? As an example, it took ages for Xposed to work with N. Many here would prefer full compatibility with Xposed vs. an O update with limited or no Xposed support.
4. There are many other threads talking about O being promised -- or not -- for the H8. Why can't posters just update one thread with their latest updates from (mostly clueless) reps?
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1. I doubt these reps have any more of a clue about the O update for the H8 than you do. If you communicate with enough of them, I am sure one of them will give you the answer you're looking for.
2. What's the fascination with the O update anyway? Functionally, what do you want to do that O will help you with (that N and M do not)?
3. If you use the H8 as a daily driver, the need to experiment with the latest and greatest is diminished. Haven't you read the numerous posts complaining about compatibility with N, much less O? As an example, it took ages for Xposed to work with N. Many here would prefer full compatibility with Xposed vs. an O update with limited or no Xposed support.
4. There are many other threads talking about O being promised -- or not -- for the H8. Why can't posters just update one thread with their latest updates from (mostly clueless) reps?
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It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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Btw Honor 8 is being updated regularly every 3 months. We received the B394 on September and the B398 is already being released. Updated don't mean only Major updated
DroidMau5 said:
It's not that I'm fascinated with the O update, I just feel a bit cheated because they promised 2 years of updates right? Buying a phone (with great specs) that becomes outdated in a couple of months kinda stings. And for xposed... I'm not too into that anymore especially with stability/diversity rom issues with this device; I gave roms try for a while but the loss of some functionality and higher charging temps made me uneasy
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Btw Honor 8 is being updated regularly every 3 months. We received the B394 on September and the B398 is already being released. Updated don't mean only Major updated
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Imho we're only talking about official upgrades, no root or xposed, so we don't really care about xposed : if you use xposed, you have rooted your phone, so you willingly excluded yourself from official upgrades.
I think a lot of us understood that 2 years updates meant 2 major android upgrades, which is not what happens, we only get very minor updates every few months.
Imho a real serious way of handling updates would be to release one with every google security patch, with no new feature and only bug fixing, security first.
And then state something about the major android upgrades, but these 2 should be separated.
But I'm dreaming in a non commercial world
And if you add a so-called partnership with XDA developers, and no real full source has been released, yes this is very disappointing.
Unfortunately Huawei is terrible with updating their previous devices. They're in it for a quick buck and move onto the next new one. All you can do is vote with your money next time and buy a Google pixel if you want updates, or an iPhone. I wouldn't expect more than 1 major os upgrade for any Huawei devices.
I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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I second that. KRACK (hell, even Blueborne) is unpatched on our phones. I understand that we get "regular" updates, but seriously, an out-of-band update when serious vulnerabilities occur is not much to ask.
Not everybody can afford an iPhone, but for sure, if Huawei/Honor don't get their act together, this will be the first and the last of their devices that I will ever buy.
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I want KRACK patched. If it's not patched in the next month I'm selling my phone for an iPhone.
Apple has better security than Android.
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Probably, but it's still Crapple.
Bruatar said:
Unfortunately Huawei is terrible with updating their previous devices. They're in it for a quick buck and move onto the next new one. All you can do is vote with your money next time and buy a Google pixel if you want updates, or an iPhone. I wouldn't expect more than 1 major os upgrade for any Huawei devices.
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Yes, but so much advertising around XDA partnership and honor 8 beeing their new "long live" model made a lot of us buy it even if they had such reputation.
iPhone ? Never ever ! This is the opposite problem, they push too much major upgrades so your phone becomes a low performance phone.
I have an ipad2 for music creation, I recovered good performance when I rolled back from verrrrry laggggggy iOS 9 to iOS 6.
From the previous update patterns.. if your model has launched with (MM) you will get the next one(N). If your model has launched with (N), then you will get the Oreo. Period..
It depends.
Honor promised either 12 or 24 months of Major Android Updates. Honor has delivered in the past like my Honor 4C got two major Android updates Lollipop and Marshmallow. I believe we should get Oreo since it is extremely healthy for the development community. If Honor delivers Oreo with Treble Support, there's a high chance of getting a fully functional bulges custom ROMs for the device.
From my previous experiences with Huawei devices i noticed that they only receive 1 major update during their lifetime. Even flagships. That was true with Ascend P7 (4.2.2.-->5.1.1), P8 (5.1.1-->6.0) and now the same with Honor 8. Huawei does not even bother with intermediate OS updates like 7.0.2 and 7.1.1
It was released with 6.0, now it has 7.0, so ... that's it.
Well, the Honor 6X was released only two months after the 8 with 6.0 too and it has Oreo planned. It doesn't make sense for Honor to ditch 8 for 6X. Let's wait and see.
Those are not official. Someone in these forums got replied to an email that Honor 8 will get a closed beta for it soon. That person is not official Honor and is therefore fake.
Yup the xda partnerships that honor/Huawei touts everytime ar sooooooooooooooooo fake its laughable.
xdmusicbx said:
Well, the Honor 6X was released only two months after the 8 with 6.0 too and it has Oreo planned. It doesn't make sense for Honor to ditch 8 for 6X. Let's wait and see.
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The customer support is now saying that even the Honor 6X isn't going to recieve the Oreo update.
She did mention that despite it hasn't been announced we shouldn't lose hope since it still isn't CONFIRMED. She also mentioned that we will continue recieving security patches which honestly is more that enough for me......
I've tried Oreo on my Nexus 5X and if anything it made the device slower and doesn't have any new changes or features apart from the password filling in apps or the updated Bluetooth codec.
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
Now that most of us have received the Oreo update I'm beginning to wonder whether will we receive future android updates, especially when we can witness the company's attitude towards their former flagship (Honor 8). On the other hand, Oreo included project treble support which supposedly should make updates easier to create and implement.
I've heard that they had promised 2 year update support for their devices, so theoretically it would include the Android 9. Taking into account the 6 month delay after Google will have released it.
What do you guys think about our devices future?
Kuba565 said:
Now that most of us have received the Oreo update I'm beginning to wonder whether will we receive future android updates, especially when we can witness the company's attitude towards their former flagship (Honor 8). On the other hand, Oreo included project treble support which supposedly should make updates easier to create and implement.
I've heard that they had promised 2 year update support for their devices, so theoretically it would include the Android 9. Taking into account the 6 month delay after Google will have released it.
What do you guys think about our devices future?
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yes, it should have Android 9 in future. but who knows...
Kuba565 said:
Now that most of us have received the Oreo update I'm beginning to wonder whether will we receive future android updates, especially when we can witness the company's attitude towards their former flagship (Honor 8). On the other hand, Oreo included project treble support which supposedly should make updates easier to create and implement.
I've heard that they had promised 2 year update support for their devices, so theoretically it would include the Android 9. Taking into account the 6 month delay after Google will have released it.
What do you guys think about our devices future?
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No update yet still...Maybe add 3-4 months additional, apart from the 6 months....
Kuba565 said:
Now that most of us have received the Oreo update I'm beginning to wonder whether will we receive future android updates, especially when we can witness the company's attitude towards their former flagship (Honor 8). On the other hand, Oreo included project treble support which supposedly should make updates easier to create and implement.
I've heard that they had promised 2 year update support for their devices, so theoretically it would include the Android 9. Taking into account the 6 month delay after Google will have released it.
What do you guys think about our devices future?
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Most probably it will receive the Android P update but by the time, it would get that update, Android Q would have released.
Now that the OP7 is officially announced, is there a time limit on O/S updates to our OP5's?
Alan
I don't have any official statement regarding OxygenOS, but if you use LineageOS, the Oneplus One, 2 and 3 are still supported so I can't imagine support for 5 flailing anytime soon: https://download.lineageos.org/ <-- (Oneplus One updates as recent as today)
I am in China, my oneplus 5 will receive updates almost every week.：伊克：
He's probably referring to the Oxygen OS updates. Community based ROMs will get support for some time to come. I think I recall OP promised 2 major updates, so OOS might see Q for OP5/T, but don't take my word on it.
I think we will not get an official update with Android Q, but the monthly security updates should be continue for another year or so at least I imagine? Just guessing.
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Now that the OP7 is officially announced, is there a time limit on O/S updates to our OP5's?
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Best bet, ask OnePlus themselves instead of all of this speculation.
So it seems Android Q will come to OP5: https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...d-zen-mode-from-7-pro-but-not-nightscape-2-0/
https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/...eatures-heading-to-oneplus-5-5t-6-6t.1037976/
Android Q update
We have already released Android Q Developer Preview on the forum for the OnePlus 7 Pro and OnePlus 6/6T, available. For those wondering, rest assured: Android Q will also make its way to the OnePlus 5 and 5T. Just remember, there are no ETAs.
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The android 10 official update yet to rollout.
Other non android one phones have rolled out android 10 for their devices . It feels so bad Mi a2 being android one phone still have no any official announcement regarding that. Even they do not have any roadmap for the release.
The December 2019 security patch has rolled out leading with a major Chrome bug inside that.
Since October Google had pushed the update from their side, but xiaomi is taking a lot of time in rolling out the update.
Also their is no beta version rolled out for the same for android 10.
Kindly the senior devs please spread this post to xiaomi, so that they will look into this.
Thankyou.
That surely is the last Xiaomi device I'm going to ever buy. Completely disappointed. The main reason I picked this "Apple boldness" device is the Android one project, second the price. Now I know it was kind of a waste of money for what I wanted and needed from a smartphone. Even Samsung are rolling out Android 10 with a lot more of useful resources sooner, when not, they offer roadmaps and news about it. Putting aside its stable security patches releases even for A5 2017, month after month, my previous daily driver.